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BeigJawnson:
How can I honour God with my wealth?

Okay, God's laid down tithing rule according to your ideology is to tithe with crops. Now, as a Christian and not a farmer, how can I tithe?

Where did God, Jesus or the Apostles request tithes from Christians?

Read Acts 15 slowly, your answer is there.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY COVENANT WITH GOD SO TITHE IS OUT OF THE QUESTION,WE ARE GOD'S CHILDREN SO YOUR FATHER CANNOT TELL YOU TO GIVE HIM MONEY BEFORE HE WILL PAY YOUR SCHOOL FEES NEVER, PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO GIVE TO THE CHURCH FOR ITS RUNNING VOLUNTARILY. THAT IS WHAT THE APOSTLES PREACHED NON OF THEM PAID TITHE. SHOW ME IN THE NEW TESTAMENT WHERE PAUL OR ANY APOSTLE TOLD PEOPLE TO PAY TITHE NON. BUT WE ARE ENCOURAGED TO GIVE CHEERFULLY.

michlins:
once you want to deceive people, you will mention holy Spirit.

If this form of Christianity we practice in Nigeria is the best, I reject it in totality

Create ur own bible with Damina

[quote author=Amerengues2 post=131853793][/quote]You can read it carefully
... Stick to your ideology more like how a butter can stick with bread... Anywhere you like eat your tithe. Infact you can eat it your ancestors house...

BeigJawnson:
How can I honour God with my wealth?

Okay, God's laid down tithing rule according to your ideology is to tithe with crops. Now, as a Christian and not a farmer, how can I tithe?

To honour God with your wealth as a Christian. Read Matthew 25 v 31-46.

What you do unto the least of your brethren you do unto Christ.

OkCornel:
Where did God, Jesus or the Apostles request tithes from Christians?

Read Acts 15 slowly, your answer is there.

Answer my question before I read Acts 15...
Answer me slowly ....

BeigJawnson:
You can read it carefully
... Stick to your ideology more like how a butter can stick with bread... Anywhere you like eat your tithe. Infact you can eat it your ancestors house...

I have obviously gotten the answer I needed- unanswered

BeigJawnson:
Answer my question before I read Acts 15...
Answer me slowly ....

Read the post above yours slowly

OkCornel:
To honour God with your wealth as a Christian. Read Matthew 25 v 31-46.

What you do unto the least of your brethren you do unto Christ.

Matthew 25:31-46
[31]“When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory.
[32]All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats.
[33]And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left.
[34]Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
[35]for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in;
[36]I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’
[37]“Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink?
[38]When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You?
[39]Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’
[40]And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’
[41]“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
[42]for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink;
[43]I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’
[44]“Then they also will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’
[45]Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’
[46]And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

Giving to the poor is also part of doing God's stuff...
So is it a sin to give to churches? Or to contribute to churches?

OkCornel:
Read the post above yours slowly

Done...

Amerengues2:
I have obviously gotten the answer I needed- unanswered

Good for you... So piss off

OkCornel:
To honour God with your wealth as a Christian. Read Matthew 25 v 31-46.

What you do unto the least of your brethren you do unto Christ.

So indirectly we are to tithe by giving the poor our crops and farm produce as Christians right?

BeigJawnson:
Good for you... So piss off

You can do good to use polite words on public forum especially when subjects like this is broached.

BeigJawnson:
Matthew 25:31-46
[31]“When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory.
[32]All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats.
[33]And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left.
[34]Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
[35]for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in;
[36]I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’
[37]“Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink?
[38]When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You?
[39]Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’
[40]And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’
[41]“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
[42]for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink;
[43]I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’
[44]“Then they also will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’
[45]Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’
[46]And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

Giving to the poor is also part of doing God's stuff...
So is it a sin to give to churches? Or to contribute to churches?

I never said it is a sin to give to churches nor contribute.

I am saying lying on God to twist the scriptures and deceive people into monetary tithing is disingenuous and fraudulent.

Ezemann:
You guys will just go dig an old video and make a post about about it. that video is not recent. in my state, Abel Damina's messages are broadcasted in 5 radio stations and for a time frame of 2 hours each. calculate how much is going into that alone, not to talk of other platforms. he does not collect tithes and he's not begging any one either.

Don't mind them. They think that they are ridiculing the man of God.
If only they new how successful Power City International is.

BeigJawnson:
So indirectly we are to tithe by giving the poor our crops and farm produce as Christians right?

Where did Christ mention tithe in Matthew 25 v 31-46?

bdon12:
Look tithe is not d only way to giv to church.u can giv to d church at ur own will not under compulsion.Tithe is compulsory n a scam .

Please keep quiet. A stingy person is a stingy person. Have you ever given to church or mosque on your own before? Just say you are stingy.

OkCornel:
I never said it is a sin to give to churches nor contribute.

I am saying lying on God to twist the scriptures to deceive people into monetary tithing is disingenuous and fraudulent.

So by giving to the poor, we are tithing right? And such tithing must be based on crops and farm produced, yearly just as it is stated in Deuteronomy right?

OkCornel:
Where did Christ mention tithe in Matthew 25 v 31-46?

You said we shouldn't tithe with money? So giving to the poor in Mathew 25 vs 31-46 is not tithing?

BeigJawnson:
So by giving to the poor, we are tithing right? And such tithing must be based on crops and farm produced, yearly just as it is stated in Deuteronomy right?

In Matthew 25 v 31-46, by giving and showing compassion to least of the brethren is how you honour the Lord with your wealth.

What you do the least, you do to Christ himself.

BeigJawnson:
You said we shouldn't tithe with money? So giving to the poor in Mathew 25 vs 31-46 is not tithing?

Giving to the poor in Matthew 25 v 31-46 is honouring the Lord, as you’re doing it to Christ himself.

The truth has it cost.


Damina is paying the price. Thank God for his life. He yielded to God, the price may be heavy, but it will bear fruits.

advanceDNA:
..so to you.... guilt tripping his members that they don't love God for giving what they want is relating experience??
..the man is just feeling entitled and unhappy collections is now small....

That's his members cheerful giving...he supposed to accept it cheerfully too..all this lamentation is just another form of manipulation

That is not the crux of the argument. Rest!!

axglide:
In Genesis 14 v 18-20, it was recorded that Abraham paid Tithe to Melchizedek. If any believer today is a child of Abraham and claims that the blessings of Abraham is his or hers, then you shouldn’t dispute that paying tithe is actually Biblical and still relevant till tomorrow.

Genesis 14v18-20
18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.

19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:

20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.

The Blessings of Abraham is for the his descendants and not for you or I . And the ten percent that Abram gave to Melchizedek was out of charity and has no Law guiding it and so is different from the one God "commanded" the Hebrews to pay.
The tithe that God gave to the Israelites were to be brought to the temple and eaten by the tither in the presence of the Lord God and at the end of every 3 years the the Israelites are to bring their tithe to the house of God. This one is for the Levites, the widows, the poor and the orphans.
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22 “Set aside a tithe—a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. 23 Then go to the one place where the Lord your God has chosen to be worshiped; and there in his presence eat the tithes of your grain, wine, and olive oil, and the first-born of your cattle and sheep. Do this so that you may learn to honor the Lord your God always. 24 If the place of worship is too far from your home for you to carry there the tithe of the produce that the Lord has blessed you with, then do this: 25 Sell your produce and take the money with you to the one place of worship. 26 Spend it on whatever you want—beef, lamb, wine, beer—and there, in the presence of the Lord your God, you and your families are to eat and enjoy yourselves.

27 “Do not neglect the Levites who live in your towns; they have no property of their own. 28 At the end of every third year bring the tithe of all your crops and store it in your towns. 29 This food is for the Levites, since they own no property, and for the foreigners, orphans, and widows who live in your towns. They are to come and get all they need. Do this, and the Lord your God will bless you in everything you do.

This is the Tithe Law that God gave to the Israelites and it's just one part of the numerous laws, commands and festivals that God gave to them and for them exclusively to signify that they were in a Covenant with Him. It was a covenant this is consecrated with the blood of animals.

The covenant Christians entered with Christ is much more superior and supercedes the Old covenant because it was consecrated with the blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ and is not encumbered with all these laws like in the old. And this one was for All Nations and not just for the Jews.

Ubdavis:
That is not the crux of the argument. Rest!!

Lol.....u must have some serious mental problems.... First u rush into my comment ignoring the context I commented on...saying another context

.next u behaving like u are the police of what pple can talk about ... Is like u are not very normal

axglide:
In Genesis 14 v 18-20, it was recorded that Abraham paid Tithe to Melchizedek. If any believer today is a child of Abraham and claims that the blessings of Abraham is his or hers, then you shouldn’t dispute that paying tithe is actually Biblical and still relevant till tomorrow.

Genesis 14v18-20
18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.

19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:

20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.

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fuckingAyaya:
This man haven't encountered God yet, so many things will sound like fiction to him lol. The day anyone encounters God personally you won't be able to tell what you saw
or experienced cos people will take you for a fool and no one will believe you.

I reckon

advanceDNA:
I don't get.. He told his members to stop paying tithes....yet started to complain when they stopped and the collections reduced..??

English hard you like this...what happens to OFFERING. That's what the believers gave in the book of act with no percentage attached to it. They gave CHEERFULLY

What the video again

femi4:
English hard you like this...what happens to OFFERING. That's what the believers gave in the book of act with no percentage attached to it. They gave CHEERFULLY

What the video again

Lol...Sarcasm is hard for you.....

If he's preaching cheerful giving why is he lamenting about the offering he got.....so now he feels it's no longer cheerful becos it's not plenty......what type of logic is that, accusing his members of not living God
He should cheerfully accept it the way it is..instead of coming online to rant....

advanceDNA:
Lol...Sarcasm is hard for you.....

If he's preaching cheerful giving why is he lamenting about the offering he got.....so now he feels it's no longer cheerful becos it's not plenty......what type of logic is that, accusing his members of not living God
He should cheerfully accept it the way it is..instead of coming online to rant....

You are not reasonable. If you give out of fear, then something is wrong with you. It should be the other way round cos cheerful giver gives above 10 percent towards God's work

femi4:
You are not reasonable. If you give out of fear, then something is wrong with you. It should be the other way round cos cheerful giver gives above 10 percent towards God's work

U are the one being unreasonable and commiting fallacy...how did u reach the conclusion that cheerful givers gives above 10% of their income ?? Cheerful is any amount as it is in ur heart..weda 1, 2 3 or 100%

Which stvpîd fear are u talking about seff..fear of what....?? There is nothing like giving out of fear....if pple are actually afraid .....no one will lie, commit adultery and fornication, because the same bible that commands tithe also gave these other commands...in fact it's clearly stated that sinners shall go to hell....

What pple are doing is giving because reward the pastors fallaciously claim they will get from God..not fear........now he said tithing does not work, that everyone should give only what they want cheerfully....he now turn around accusing pple of not giving cheerfully because the offering u got is not plenty like before ....

He should accept what he got cheerfully.... He's being entitled

fuckingAyaya:
This man haven't encountered God yet, so many things will sound like fiction to him lol. The day anyone encounters God personally you won't be able to tell what you saw
or experienced cos people will take you for a fool and no one will believe you.

Always stories with scintillating lines, as usual