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Emusan:
This JaNosense even claimed it was "Council of gods" so you were created in the image of gods and not that of Almighty God

Have you removed Jehovah's speech from Job chapter 38 verses 1 to 7?
Carry your MUMU komot from this public forum.

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MightySparrow:
According to John 1:1 - 3, if everything was created by the Word which should be outside His creation, do you say Jesus created Himself, being the Word?

According to Emusan your fellow Trinitarian, did "the Word came out of the mouth of God" his Father?
"If God did not speak,"the Word (another being) would not come out"
God did not come out of himself.
Another being came out of God.
Trinity wotowoto. In the mud.


Screenshot evidence.

Did Jesus the Word exist when he had not come out of the mouth of God His Father?
No.

Did light exist when God when light had not come out of the mouth of God our Father?

No.

Oga,is your instrument equal with you?
Why would you claim that God the Creator is equal with His instrumental his son?
Oga, your claim FALSE, your Trinity doctrine wotowoto. In the mud.

Sand2022:
The divine nature that 2Pet has in mind is that of Christ's glory. Christ was flesh when on earth and later got a glorified. That is what the anointed will get. They won't get what Christ is before his humanity. It's not even possible. See how the Insight comments on it:

Insight under Nature:

That this is a sharing with Christ in his glory as spirit persons[/b], Peter shows in his first letter: “God . . . gave us a new birth [a·na·gen·neʹsas he·masʹ, “having generated us again”] to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an incorruptible and undefiled and unfading inheritance. It is reserved in the heavens for you.” (1Pe 1:3, 4)"

When you have John 17:5,7,23-24 , Jesus firm rebuttal of your FAULTY interpretation, you are desperately denying the holy scriptures.

Oga, delete John 17:5,7,23-24 from your Bible if you get liver.

Barristter07:
But trinitarians can use terms like " Fully human" for Jesus , until this evening .

Janosky:
Oga ,why are you TWISTING the holy scriptures?

Did John the apostle write John 1:1-3 & John 5:26?
Yes
Did the God who granted you life to Jesus, also granted life to you, Sparrow?
Yes.

According to the screenshots evidence referencing John 1:3 , Hebrew 1:2 & Colossians 1:16, is Jesus the instrumentality of creation?
Yes.

Oga, is your instrument the same being as you who use that instrument?
No

Likewise,is God the Creator the same being as the Word His instrumentality?
No.


Did the screenshot evidence of your Trinitarian Bible scholars claim that Jesus is the First Cause?

No .

Did the screenshot evidence of your Trinitarian Bible scholars differentiate Jesus from his Father the Creator?
Yes

@ Romans 11:35-36 & Revelation 3:14, did Jesus come through your heavenly Father?
Yes.

According to Emusan your fellow Trinitarian, did "the Word came out of the mouth of God" his Father?
"If God did not speak,"the Word (another being) would not come out"
God did not come out of himself.
Another being came out of God.
Trinity wotowoto. In the mud.


Screenshot evidence.

Did Jesus the Word exist when he had not come out of the mouth of God His Father?
No.

Did light exist when God when light had not come out of the mouth of God our Father?

No.

Oga,is your instrument equal with you?
Why would you claim that God the Creator is equal with His instrumental his son?
Oga, your claim FALSE, your Trinity doctrine wotowoto. In the mud.

Janosky:
I will itemize the points
*1 There are only two natures that exists.
Spirit (divine nature) & human nature.
In heaven Jesus had divine nature.
On earth, human nature, Romans 8:3.

2. Jesus prayed about partakers of divine nature to receive the same glory that God gave Jesus ;
"Father I want those you have given me to be where I am, in order that they may look upon my glory you have given me..."
"I have given them the glory that you have given me"
John chapter 17:23-24.[/b]

*3

The same glory for partakers of divine nature.
the same glory for Jesus Christ
The same glory for God their Father of all.

John 17:23-24 no dey Sand2022 Bible.

*4
The guy so desperate to confuse himself & his sheeples that the glory shared by the God Almighty & his son proves their equality.

But unfortunately for Sand2022 & Emusan, Jesus Christ exposed their delusion.

John 17:7 , Jesus say nah God their Father get the Glory given to Jesus & partakers of divine nature. John 17:23-24.

[b]Partakers of divine nature meaning "to be with me (Jesus) where I am", dwelling together in heaven
Trinity wotowoto. In the mud.[/b]

MightySparrow:
Janosky!!!!!!!!??

Are you really saying that God spoke only once and that word was Jesus and the word was the creator of other things? Then God shut up His mouth ever since? Or the Word here is some form other than a vocal expression of a wish?

Please explain more.


Your response is interesting and pregnant and pregnant with many questions.

Emusan:
That is hogmmw he will be pulling screenshot he doesn't understand up and down.

You have grabbed him in the jaw

Emusan:
That is how he will be pulling screenshot he doesn't understand up and down.

You have grabbed him in the jaw

MightySparrow:
Janosky!!!!!!!!??

*1
Are you really saying that God spoke only once and that word was Jesus and the word was the creator of other things?
*2
Then God shut up His mouth ever since?

*3
Or the Word here is some form other than a vocal expression of a wish?

Please explain more.


Your response is interesting and pregnant and pregnant with many questions.

Oga, do you understand that Psalm 103:20 & John 14:24?
Jesus Christ OBEYS God his Father's voice, words & command.
John 5:19,30, Oga did Jesus Christ do a single thing of his own initiative?
No !

@ John 1:3 & Hebrew 1:2, Jehovah God created the universe THROUGH his son OBEYING the Father's voice, words and command.

Psalm 148:5, "Jehovah commanded and EVERYTHING was created"

1 Timothy 6:13 " God gives life to EVERYTHING "
John 5:26 , The God gives life to Jesus Christ."

Trinity nah fraud. In the mud. Wotowoto.

MightySparrow:
Simple question they won't answer but making
ridiculous quotations out of their spurious NWT to mislead people.

In their heads and hearts they know that Trinitarian illusion can't stand the scrutiny of the holy scriptures

They must seek solace in barrage of insults, personal attacks coupled with FALSE narratives to console themselves.

Trinity in the mud. Wotowoto.

Janosky:
They must seek solace in barrage of insults, personal attacks

MightySparrow: Simple question they won't answer but making
ridiculous quotations out of their spurious NWT to mislead people.

Janosky: Oponu Empty soul and LYING miscreant's brain is filled with sand.

johnw47:
lost fraud jw janosky

which is insults and personal attacks
this fact:




or this sewer talk;


you not only insult and attack the person, you also lie like hell, of course:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool

John W LYING miscreant , you are deceiving yourself.
I have responded to Sparrow's question & he can't counter the biblical evidence to his questions.


Shame on you deceitful man playing the victim card.

When Emusan your friend & fellow Trinitarian started the barrage of insults at 10:55am (in the 2 screenshots), did you ever caution him?

John 8:44 applies to you deceitful man
WHENEVER JOHN W SPEAKS,HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING,
Please carry your LYING komot from this public forum.
The Nairaland evidence is irrefutablely against you.

Janosky:
John W LYING miscreant , you are deceiving yourself.

Janosky: I have responded to Sparrow's question & he can't counter the biblical evidence to his questions.

Janosky: Shame on you deceitful man playing the victim card.

Janosky: When Emusan your friend & fellow Trinitarian started the barrage of insults at 10:55am (in the 2 screenshots), did you ever caution him?

Janosky: John 8:44 applies to you deceitful man
WHENEVER JOHN W SPEAKS,HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING,
Please carry your LYING komot from this public forum.
The Nairaland evidence is irrefutablely against you.