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Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by favor914: 1:04pm On Sep 15, 2024
helinues:
The current place the Jewish( Israelites) are might be part of their old own land, but the extension was a gift
Nothing is their own, go back to their so called Genesis in the scripture, Papa Abraham the father of Jews came from Tehran, met people on the land, and asked they should accommodate him, which they did, the rest na land grabbing like they are doing till today.

Promised Land Indeed, their god told them to kill the people & claim their land, like they are still doing till date.
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by helinues: 1:06pm On Sep 15, 2024
Proudlyngwa:
Nope you said the funded the war


Extermination of over 6 million Jews and persecution in many parts of the worldled to the idea of a state for Jews,

British occupied Palestine was the only viable place and with funding from the US they were shipped to Present day Israel , without the consent of the current occupiers of the land and given settlements, They continued expanding and till today, there has been crisis in that region.
So their rich people who are now in foreign land funded the world war 2 and also give strategies for the west on how to win the war.
Funded don't mean solely, but their contributions was very strategic
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by Proudlyngwa(m): 1:06pm On Sep 15, 2024
helinues:
Your first write up already suggested you don't have the full details about this discussion.

You see the , Israelites were doing just fine in their little territory until the temptations of the promised land came to their minds. They were initially succeeded in conquering some lands for decades if not century until the oppressors pushed back and sent the Israel/Jewish even away from their little tiny initial land.

They were scattered across the world due to that. They are actually successful when it comes to business, so their rich people who are now in foreign land funded the world war 2 and also give strategies for the west on how to win the war.

The tactics worked, the money influenced worked and after the war, the west deliberate to let the Jewish scattered across the world to have their own state ( nation).
Favour914 or whatever you call yourself
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by helinues: 1:08pm On Sep 15, 2024
favor914:
Nothing is their own, go back to their so called Genesis in the scripture, Papa Abraham the father of Jews came from Tehran, met people on the land, and asked they should accommodate him, which they did, the rest na land grabbing like they are doing till today.

Promised Land Indeed, their god told them to kill the people & claim their land, like they are still doing till date.
The real estate agent God wey dey share lands ya fun yafun.

The war in the world will continue until the past mistakes even if not corrected but be discussed and settle it once and for all because the grievances have been generational old from both sides
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by Proudlyngwa(m): 1:09pm On Sep 15, 2024
favor914:
Did I mention funding of war?
You quoted a post half way into a discussion concerning funding a war with Adolph Hitler's mum being a jew
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by Difrent: 1:11pm On Sep 15, 2024
Botragelad:
Now I just thought I'd clarify this again, and Again for those who aren't familiar with history or don't want to do their research.
Here I will be talking about the whole Israel and Palestine issue. Please take your time to read.

Israel, the Jewish people, have always existed long before gaining independence, and archaeologists and DNA confirm this. The Roman Empire conquered Judea in 63 BCE, renaming it 'Palestine' to erase Jewish identity, causing most Jews and indigenous Israelites to flee, leaving a minority behind.

The so-called 'Palestinians' are mainly Arabs who migrated from other countries and settled in Israel. Renaming a territory doesn't make it yours; the Roman name change didn't change the fact that it's still Israel's land, just like an invaded land remains yours despite name changes or new populations, and Israel can always claim it back.

Coming to now. Here's a brief overview:



P.S: Pay attention to the bolded words!

Nlfpmod
Seun
mukina2
Justwise
Fergie001
nlfpmod
How will you feel if African American and other descendants of enslaved people all over the Americas started coming back to Africa, claiming persecution from whites , and Start displacing me and you from lands we've always knows as ours, establishing settlements on our ancestral lands and claiming they are only taking back what was theirs that slavery took them away from and which they are back to claim
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by Proudlyngwa(m): 1:12pm On Sep 15, 2024
helinues:
Funded don't mean solely, but their contributions was very strategic
Oga stop twisting your words na


You said the rich people amongst them funded the war,

Maybe you need to rephrase your statement, instead of hoping others will understand what you intend to say.

The Jews had no capacity to fund any war
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by favor914: 1:12pm On Sep 15, 2024
helinues:
The real estate agent God wey they share lands ya fun yafun.

The war in the world will continue until the past mistakes even if not corrected but be discussed and settle it once and for all because the grievances have been generational old from both sides.
Once again you are correct, first mistake was that creation of the so called United Nations in New York in 1945 fostering in the new world order, second mistake the official creation of so called Israel out of Palestine in 1948 by that rogue United Nations.

Like the great Fela Kuti said, one veto vote is equal to 99 or more, which kind sense be that?

Na animal sense.
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by helinues: 1:14pm On Sep 15, 2024
Proudlyngwa:
Oga stop twisting your words na


You said the rich people amongst them funded the war,

Maybe you need to rephrase your statement, instead of hoping others will understand what you intend to say.

The Jews had no capacity to fund any war
The rich people amongst them, does that mean all the Jewish? Were they not prosecuted across the Europe during the world war 2? What would you have expected their rich people to do to intervene if not provide funds and resources to stop the genocide against their people
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by helinues: 1:15pm On Sep 15, 2024
favor914:
Once again you are correct, first mistake was that creation of the so called United Nations in New York in 1945 fostering in the new world order, second mistake the official creation of so called Israel out of Palestine in 1948 by that rogue United Nations.

Like the great Fela Kuti said, one veto vote is equal to 99 or more, which kind sense be that?

Na animal sense.
The UN, lol

They are promising to give us our birth right, human right. Awon were
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by favor914: 1:16pm On Sep 15, 2024
Difrent:
How will you feel if African American and other descendants of enslaved people all over the Americas started coming back to Africa, claiming persecution from whites , and Start displacing me and you from lands we've always knows as ours, establishing settlements on our ancestral lands and claiming they are only taking back what was theirs that slavery took them away from and which they are back to claim
The funny thing is that those Zionist are not even from Palestine, it is like an Oyibo man coming to Lagos Island, & tells you it was his ancestors that owned the parcel of land based on a treaty?
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by favor914: 1:17pm On Sep 15, 2024
helinues:
The UN, lol

They are promising to give us our birth right, human right. Awon were
Yes O, animals wan dash us human right.

The same people that sanctioned Babaginda & Naija from the commonwealth of nations because of our strong backing for South Africa.

The same ANC that was categorized as a terrorist organization by the Americans, Nelson Mandela the Chief Terrorist?
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by Proudlyngwa(m): 1:17pm On Sep 15, 2024
helinues:
The rich people amongst them, does that mean all the Jewish? Were they not prosecuted across the Europe during the world war 2? What would you have expected their rich people to do to intervene if not provide funds and resources to stop the genocide against their people
They might have given support here and there , it does not mean funding a war.

Only a government or Organised entity has the capacity to fund a war.

The Jews, Rich or whatsoever pre WW2 had no such capacity.
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by helinues: 1:19pm On Sep 15, 2024
Proudlyngwa:
They might have given support here and there , it does not mean funding a war.

Only a government or Organised entity has the capacity to fund a war.

The Jews, Rich or whatsoever pre WW2 had no such capacity.
Hahahaha , let just reference to modern day, Nigeria for example, how are the Boko Haram, bandits miscreants getting arms and ammunitions?

Na government dey fund them?
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by favor914: 1:23pm On Sep 15, 2024
Proudlyngwa:
You quoted a post half way into a discussion concerning funding a war with Adolph Hitler's mum being a jew
Guy the thread is about the “Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed”.

More so Helinues is correct The Federal Reserve funded world war 2 in part with the Zionist movement in Europe & The Americas.

Yankee needed the war, to get out of the Great Depression.
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by Proudlyngwa(m): 1:24pm On Sep 15, 2024
helinues:
Hahahaha , let just reference to modern day, Nigeria for example, how are the Boko Haram, bandits miscreants getting arms and ammunitions?

Na government dey fund them?
Are they funding a war or exhibiting terrorism

Let's even take that BH is funding a war

What was the unified body for the Jews doing the funding
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by helinues: 1:25pm On Sep 15, 2024
Proudlyngwa:
Are they funding a war or exhibiting terrorism

Let's even take that BH is funding a war

What was the unified body for the Jews doing the funding
Were the Jewish not the target during the world war 2?

Answer that simple question
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by Proudlyngwa(m): 1:26pm On Sep 15, 2024
favor914:
Guy the thread is about the “Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed”.
Who said it wasn't.

Why did you quote an argument you were not part of.

You should have just made your statement without quoting a post already involved in a discussion, if you were not interested in that discussion
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by Proudlyngwa(m): 1:27pm On Sep 15, 2024
helinues:
Were the Jewish not the target during the world war 2?

Answer that simple question
No ,
They were not
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by Proudlyngwa(m): 1:27pm On Sep 15, 2024
helinues:
Were the Jewish not the target during the world war 2?

Answer that simple question
Moreover I don't see how that solves the mystery of them funding the war
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by helinues: 1:30pm On Sep 15, 2024
Proudlyngwa:
Moreover I don't see how that solves the mystery of them funding the war
Simple question you can't answer, no wonder the favour guy said I should ignore you.

Amma stick to his advice henceforth

Peace
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by favor914: 1:30pm On Sep 15, 2024
Proudlyngwa:
Who said it wasn't.

Why did you quote an argument you were not part of.

You should have just made your statement without quoting a post already involved in a discussion, if you were not interested in that discussion
Guy no dey over exaggerate your imagination.
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by Proudlyngwa(m): 1:35pm On Sep 15, 2024
helinues:
Simple question you can't answer, no wonder the favour guy said I should ignore you.

Amma stick to his advice henceforth

Peace
you were answered earlier, stop dodging the misinformation you posted
Proudlyngwa:
No ,
They were not
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by overall90: 1:38pm On Sep 15, 2024
This Favor whatever and Helineus might be one and the same person lol.
I think this discussed is above your pay grade
Why not stick to your APC and obedient nonsense.
They are even bringing Pa Abraham into the discussion forgetting that Abraham is both father to the Jews and Arabs lol
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by givedemwotowoto: 1:42pm On Sep 15, 2024
Difrent:
How will you feel if African American and other descendants of enslaved people all over the Americas started coming back to Africa, claiming persecution from whites , and Start displacing me and you from lands we've always knows as ours, establishing settlements on our ancestral lands and claiming they are only taking back what was theirs that slavery took them away from and which they are back to claim
If you decide to sell your lands to them, what wrong have they done? Shouldn’t you blame those who sold their lands? Or you think they occupied the lands by force?

The Jews didn’t occupy those lands by force, they bought all those lands with money before independence.

So here you are getting emotional over misinformation
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by Proudlyngwa(m): 1:54pm On Sep 15, 2024
givedemwotowoto:
If you decide to sell your lands to them, what wrong have they done? Shouldn’t you blame those who sold their lands? Or you think they occupied the lands by force?

The Jews didn’t occupy those lands by force, they bought all those lands with money before independence.

So here you are getting emotional over misinformation
Bought which land with which money
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by givedemwotowoto: 1:59pm On Sep 15, 2024
huh
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by rummmy: 2:31pm On Sep 15, 2024
helinues:
Conquered the land, conquered the land, whose lands?

God promised Abraham some lands according to some books, the questions are, is God a real estate agent to be sharing lands anyhow?

The promised land, was it an empty land or lands already occupied by others
Mohammed your lord and saviour that conquered mecca and medina then take over their land is a 5 star general..a certain nonsense book described him as a gold digger who was a sugar boy to Aunty Khadija.
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by givedemwotowoto: 4:24pm On Sep 15, 2024
Proudlyngwa:
Bought which land with which money
Jews acquired the land they they lived in Israel from Arabs. Both Jewish individuals and organizations such as the Jewish National Fund, bought these lands. They didn't occupy the lands like the person I quoted was insinuating, they bought these lands legally prior to Israeli independence.

https://ismi.emory.edu/documents/stein-publications/lqpconclusion.pdf
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by Difrent: 5:06am On Sep 16, 2024
givedemwotowoto:
If you decide to sell your lands to them, what wrong have they done? Shouldn’t you blame those who sold their lands? Or you think they occupied the lands by force?

The Jews didn’t occupy those lands by force, they bought all those lands with money before independence.
It's either you are misinformed, uninformed or just purely trying to be miscellaneous. While it's true some Jews bought some of the desert lands before independence, the vast majority of the remaining lands that form Israel was STOLEN by forcefully displacing the Palestinians and taking over their lands herding them into concentration camps called refugee camps all over the place
The mistake the European Jewish returnees did , unlike the Americas did with native indians was not to have completely exterminated the Arab population , allowing them regroup into refugee camps in the territory is the reason it has not succeeded in their own genocide which they have promised to carry out as a revenge for historical injustices Jews have suffered throughout history...... It wasn't until this 21st Century that Jews got balls to ever challenge an invasion of their lands... All through history their lands have been conquered innumerable times and many times destroyed (so pardon their tendency to wanna destroy Gaza and the west Bank)
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by Difrent: 5:13am On Sep 16, 2024
favor914:
The funny thing is that those Zionist are not even from Palestine, it is like an Oyibo man coming to Lagos Island, & tells you it was his ancestors that owned the parcel of land based on a treaty?
Its only some Evangelical Christians mostly from America still believe those Europeans are Jews and they do that in the believe that a state of Israel has to exist for Christ to come back to, they are the ones who make up majority of those living in illegal settlements.... Until Americans stops blanket support for Israel to carry out atrocities there won't be peace in the middle East.....

The Europeans are only too glad to have gotten rid of its Jewish problem and would do anything to keep them in Israel
Re: Brief Explanation On The Existence Of Israel And How Palestine Never Existed. by KnownUnknown: 11:39am On Sep 23, 2024
Botragelad:
Now I just thought I'd clarify this again, and Again for those who aren't familiar with history or don't want to do their research.
Here I will be talking about the whole Israel and Palestine issue. Please take your time to read.

Israel, the Jewish people, have always existed long before gaining independence, and archaeologists and DNA confirm this. The Roman Empire conquered Judea in 63 BCE, renaming it 'Palestine' to erase Jewish identity, causing most Jews and indigenous Israelites to flee, leaving a minority behind.

The so-called 'Palestinians' are mainly Arabs who migrated from other countries and settled in Israel. Renaming a territory doesn't make it yours; the Roman name change didn't change the fact that it's still Israel's land, just like an invaded land remains yours despite name changes or new populations, and Israel can always claim it back.

Coming to now. Here's a brief overview:



P.S: Pay attention to the bolded words!

Nlfpmod
Seun
mukina2
Justwise
Fergie001
nlfpmod
Lmao.

What’s the difference between a Zionist jew and a Nazi?
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