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Re: Anugbum Onuoha: We won’t remove Wike’s Cousin As Edo REC - INEC replies PDP by DWickedLandLord: 1:04am On Sep 17, 2024
vanitybutiwanti:
Obaseki fought wike because wike told him to carry legacy PDP members along, same reason Fubara fought wike because wike told fubara to carry members of the political family along. Wike never asked any of them for cash, they are all ingrates, same obaseki went to wikes house twice this year to convince him to work for them.

If you were wike, will you yield?

Is wike not a human being with emotions and blood coursing through his veins?
Sincerely shut the fvck up.

You people that see politicians as Emperors really annoy tf out of me
Re: Anugbum Onuoha: We won’t remove Wike’s Cousin As Edo REC - INEC replies PDP by storm001(m): 1:15am On Sep 17, 2024
So Yakubu Mamood is still the INEC chairman and you guys are expecting a free and fair election.

Just dey play.
Re: Anugbum Onuoha: We won’t remove Wike’s Cousin As Edo REC - INEC replies PDP by BeeNG3: 4:09am On Sep 17, 2024
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯 SUPPORTED.
Re: Anugbum Onuoha: We won’t remove Wike’s Cousin As Edo REC - INEC replies PDP by BeeNG3: 4:11am On Sep 17, 2024
madridguy:
Is WIKE no longer a member of PDP again? How come APC is not taking about the REC? PDP should allow the man serves his fatherland in peace.
OBASEKI mind dey kill am, he has LOST it BETRAYER
Re: Anugbum Onuoha: We won’t remove Wike’s Cousin As Edo REC - INEC replies PDP by BeeNG3: 4:16am On Sep 17, 2024
seanfer:
Obaseki can never learn. Betrayal is in his blood, His Great Grand Father betrayed the whole benin kingdom in early 1900s.. So betrayal is nothing new to him...
😂😂😂😂
Re: Anugbum Onuoha: We won’t remove Wike’s Cousin As Edo REC - INEC replies PDP by Santalpharay: 4:24am On Sep 17, 2024
LexngtonSteele:
You were so hungry you couldn't even quote well.

Let me give you some leftovers that Bingo dropped.
I hear that in your region, you people jostle for food with animals. Animal feeds for the matter
Re: Anugbum Onuoha: We won’t remove Wike’s Cousin As Edo REC - INEC replies PDP by Realtruth2023: 5:16am On Sep 17, 2024
DevilsEqual:
cheesy

Wike is second strongest man in Nigeria, next to the President

So, hin wife na Judge, the cousin na REC, Wow


He is what those guys think Pity giriigooory is
Oga you need a psychiatrist because the way you mention PO for ant unrelated post simply shows that you it is fast becoming a mental sickness for you.
Re: Anugbum Onuoha: We won’t remove Wike’s Cousin As Edo REC - INEC replies PDP by Realtruth2023: 5:17am On Sep 17, 2024
[quote author= post=132028524]So make the man no work again because Wike na him cousin?
Bunch of stupid people.[/quote]Dude there is what is called conflict of interest. Haba you should be smarter than this
Re: Anugbum Onuoha: We won’t remove Wike’s Cousin As Edo REC - INEC replies PDP by rayedesiri: 5:24am On Sep 17, 2024
The Mysterious Rotating Planet. Can you believe a day on Venus lasts longer than a year?
https://youtube.com/shorts/ke2R79DkHTM
Re: Anugbum Onuoha: We won’t remove Wike’s Cousin As Edo REC - INEC replies PDP by LexngtonSteele: 7:09am On Sep 17, 2024
Santalpharay:
Santalpharay to his useless homosexual father:
I hear that in your region, you people jostle for food with animals. Animal feeds for the matter
Don't be shy. Your vision was blinded by so much hunger you couldn't quote properly.

Let me feed you.
Re: Anugbum Onuoha: We won’t remove Wike’s Cousin As Edo REC - INEC replies PDP by MICHEALADEX(m): 7:20am On Sep 17, 2024
DevilsEqual:
cheesy

Wike is second strongest man in Nigeria, next to the President

So, hin wife na Judge, the cousin na REC, Wow


He is what those guys think Pity giriigooory is
That is wiked promax
Re: Anugbum Onuoha: We won’t remove Wike’s Cousin As Edo REC - INEC replies PDP by vanitybutiwanti: 8:02am On Sep 17, 2024
IfnobeGod20:
You know where you're missing it? You're looking for a sole man or woman that will stand to campaign or sponsor a candidate as a godfather. Mr. Man, it's not only godfather or godwoman that sponsor candidates for elections. There are some that are underground working for the success of a candidate. There are some that are only financial authority of a candidate and you will never see such in the radar or train of election campaign. If by this your ideology, then, we can safely say all the or virtually all candidates of 1999 are not sponsored by godfather or doesn't have godfather. What a skewed reasoning.
For your education, in many instances, some groups of organisations may come up and say this is a candidate we are sponsoring for this election and they will be out with all their resources to back such candidate. In your jaundice thinking, your type will come up and say such person has no godfather and he sponsor himself to win election. I reiterate my stance, no single candidate has ever won election without some people somewhere poking their noses to make it happened. No one can singlehandedly win an election in Nigeria without the backer of someone or group of someone no matter how popular you may be, as records have shown that popularity doesn't win election in Nigeria but connections.
As a candidate you will not be everywhere during election, some people will be your canvassers and perfection of the election on the D-day. If those connections are not there, your popularity will amount to nothing, as the results will be surchanged by those with higher connection. That will have seen several times.
Even in one of your comments, you already gave life to this my assertion, when you say, Wike want Fubara to reward certain people that made the election happened. Wike cannot be everywhere on the day of the election, some people perfected the election and delivered. Same way it happens in other states of the federation. That was why Tinubu was angry to some local government in Lagos on the results of the presidential election because they failed him. I have deleted the video where he was scolding some local government for failing to deliver and allow opposition to win in those local government areas and he gave kudos to those that delivered.
So, you can continue to feign ignorance of the message and holding on to give life to godfatherism posture.
Let me school you small again, everyone that follow the 2015 general elections, know that Wike wouldn't have won that election without the help of Jonathan's family as a sole fighter, if they have not provided him the necessary finance and macenery needed. Now, just because Jonathan or his wife doesn't behave like godfather or godwoman, does that take away that they didn't help Wike to win the gubernatorial election of 2015 in Rivers State? Even the blind knew they were the architect of Wike's victory.

Mr. Man, I am surprise that your tune is suggesting you take pleasure in godfatherism and not necessarily an ethical way things suppose to be. Nobody says Fubara should not respect Wike, just the same way Wike never disrespected Peter Odili during his reign but voice of reasoning should prevail that a governor should have control of his state and all structure to his favour and not one ex governor taking control of structure thereby roughing shoulders with substantive governor.
Fubara has been magnanimous enough by allowing Wike to chose for him many commissioners and advisers and from their resignations you would know they are from Wike's camp. Please what more can one give to honour your benefactor or should he becomes robotic to him? Wike is just a greedy and uncultured man, that will never take a pint of what he ditches out to others. I always ask this question, would Wike have allowed anyone to take control of the PDP Rivers State structure and nominate nearly half of commissioners? He will never have agreed.
Now, just because Wike did this or that for Peter Odili, he should throw away his dignity and truth because of him? But don't forget that same Odili's family helped same Wike to deliver his case at the supreme court, as declared by the same Wike. That he Wike listened to the advise of his father Odili, when he told him what to do after losing at the tribunal and appeal courts. If Wike can listened to Odili counsel to win at the supreme court but can't listen to him to sheath sword and allow Fubara to take control of the state, then, who is displaying hypocrisy here?
The question is, of what use is holding on to PDP Rivers State structure to Wike? If not for selfish end. The last time I checked, Wike wasn't the only former governor that canvassed votes for his successor in Nigeria but it seems only Wike that was too ambitious to want to turn his successor to puppet and remote control him.
There's nothing that can be done against the truth, whether is been twisted for political gain or not. It's immutable and universal and cannot be changed or altered.
Like I said earlier, you're not from Rivers State, you're a meddlesome interloper who knows nothing about Rivers politics, when wike chose an unknown sim to be governor he didn't need the opinion of Odilis and other candidates that contested in the primaries, same way he didn't need the opinion of sim when the commisioners were picked, sim was never magnanimous, he had no choice, he knows that he stood no chance against superior and well grounded candidates like Magnus Abe and Tonye Cole if he was left to run on his own, sim is an ingrate, let him come out to tell is how much of his own personal monet he spent on the campaigns, let him tell us whose achievements he was using to campaign in the 23 LGAs , people like you who knows nothing just come to the Internet to type trash, sims campaign mantra was consolidation and continuity, when sim went to each LGA to campaign, he highlighted all the things wike did in those LGAs and promised to consolidated on projects if he was voted for, tell us what the message of the other candidates you claim had people help them campaigned with, you know the truth but you're just grasping at straws and confusing yourself, wike owes the odilis nothing and he's not obligated to listen to greedy man odili, odili was dead politically and wike brought him back to life, If Amaechis candidate had win in 2015, would Odilis daughter be commisioner of health today? As a matter of fact Mr man who knows nothing, sims SSG, Deputy Governor and Chief of staff are still wikes boys, after he started insulting wike and co opted others to insult wike too, why didn't he sack those individuals? Let me also let you know that 23 LGA Chairmen worked for sim to be governor and sim withheld tge allocation of duly elected 21 Duly elected chairmen for 4 months because they didn't join him to abuse wike, 2 out of the 23 were affiliated to him by tribe that's why he released their allocation and allowed them to retain their seats after he appointed CTC chairmen, was that also wikes fault? Let me also school you Mr Man, in Rivers state, there are 3 senators under PDP, 33 state House of Representatives under PDP and 13 federal House of Representatives under PDP including the minority leader, out of these elected individuals, 3 senators are on wikes team, 8 out of 13 elected federal House of Representatives members are in wikes team, 27 out of 32 state rep members are in wikes team amidst other non elected PDP members who are on wikes team, you expect the PDP to hand over the structure of the parry to sim who has not invested or contributed to the party to sim at the detriment of these elected individuals? You want sim to be in charge so that these individuals will not have the chance to run again under PDP in 2027 because they didn't join the ingrate governor to insult wike? In any case there is no clause in the PDP constitution that gives the governor of a state power to lord over the party in a state, let him fhuck off to another party if he's not comfortable with it, he must not remain in PDP. He is a nobody and he was elected the same way the other PDP members were elected.
Re: Anugbum Onuoha: We won’t remove Wike’s Cousin As Edo REC - INEC replies PDP by Ferrous(m): 8:32am On Sep 17, 2024
IfnobeGod20:
His words can only gel your kind but not our class. The guy just blabbing to stamp godfatherism, just the way I deduced you're on the same school of thought.
Please was Wike the only former governor that expended his energy, money, time to campaign for his successor in Nigeria? But why it is that only Wike having or running battle to hold on to the state PDP structure even after he is no more a governor?
Wike is just trying to be like Tinubu but he forgot that Rivers peculiarity won't give him that leverage. Even if he succeeds for one term, he would not succeed the second term as a former governor.
The guy just succeeded cajoling you and sold dummy to you and you swallowed it hook line and sinker. I sorry for you, for not apply common sense before concurring with him in that foolery journey.
The guy is just providing you with facts and evidence, but, you don't have any, your submissions are emotionally - driven
Re: Anugbum Onuoha: We won’t remove Wike’s Cousin As Edo REC - INEC replies PDP by Dalohad: 8:35am On Sep 17, 2024
vanitybutiwanti:
Obaseki fought wike because wike told him to carry legacy PDP members along, same reason Fubara fought wike because wike told fubara to carry members of the political family along. Wike never asked any of them for cash, they are all ingrates, same obaseki went to wikes house twice this year to convince him to work for them.

If you were wike, will you yield?

Is wike not a human being with emotions and blood coursing through his veins?
Wike is a bloody criminal. He was asking Fubara for billions.

Him time don go..
Re: Anugbum Onuoha: We won’t remove Wike’s Cousin As Edo REC - INEC replies PDP by Dalohad: 8:47am On Sep 17, 2024
JoeyNaza:
The kind of "Power" that thrills the black undeveloped African is the same that kills him.

See how this one is happy and smiling that a politician is connected enough to subvert democratic processes as if it is for his own immediate direct benefit.
That is how you guys hailed a particular politician because of "African Power of Corruption", today he don floor una for ground but shame no gree una speak out. Continue.
You really give that devilsEqual a good hammering with facts.

The rabid appetite of black buffoons to admire tyrannical scoundrels in power is beyond belief.

The worst is that powerful scoundrels like Wike and co. do not see these followers as equals but as serfs.

I listened to Wike on Politics today two days ago. He almost rebuked Seun for asking him to address some issues raised by another politician, because the 'politician has never been a governor'. In essence, he implied that only governors should criticise him as Wike.

And there are buffoons who can barely afford 2 good meals a day, hailing political cantankerous characters like Wike who believes it is their birthright to be on a high horse and look down on their clueless followers who are condemned to political Almajirism..
Re: Anugbum Onuoha: We won’t remove Wike’s Cousin As Edo REC - INEC replies PDP by Pythagoras001: 9:50pm On Sep 17, 2024
bentenny:
Even if U use electronic voting,politicians will look for a way to manoeuvre that system!
What we really need are strong institutions with severe punishment for wrongdoers!

If we must fix our electoral system,we must start by pressuring the national assembly to amend the electoral laws by removing the authority of the president to select the Chief justice of Nigeria,the inspector general of police,INEC chairman and REC officials.....until that is done,there can never be a free and fair election in Nigeria and politicians from the ruling party at the centre will always look for a way to subvert the system to their advantage!
the reason for rigging is because politician know it is almost impossible to prove rigging with the current manual process their is too much human involvement. To prove over voting you would need all polling unit result, bvas accreditation records and voter register for each polling unit. Good luck getting those documents that is if your polling agent have not been compromised. The moment all this individual components are electronically available As bad as the judiciary or inec staff would be one cannot hide under technicalities because the over voting or vote allocation would be very easy to prove. With electronic voting machine having paper trails all the ballot used and results would be electronically available. The results are automatically collated no room for mistakes as results are real time. You can file petition after results are announced as all all the required documents needed to prove over voting are immediately available.
Re: Anugbum Onuoha: We won’t remove Wike’s Cousin As Edo REC - INEC replies PDP by Ginomel(m): 12:48pm On Sep 18, 2024
LexngtonSteele:
I work for Brazzers as an entertainer in California. Hope no issues ?
Serious issues.
Re: Anugbum Onuoha: We won’t remove Wike’s Cousin As Edo REC - INEC replies PDP by bentenny(m): 4:49pm On Sep 18, 2024
Pythagoras001:
the reason for rigging is because politician know it is almost impossible to prove rigging with the current manual process their is too much human involvement. To prove over voting you would need all polling unit result, bvas accreditation records and voter register for each polling unit. Good luck getting those documents that is if your polling agent have not been compromised. The moment all this individual components are electronically available As bad as the judiciary or inec staff would be one cannot hide under technicalities because the over voting or vote allocation would be very easy to prove. With electronic voting machine having paper trails all the ballot used and results would be electronically available. The results are automatically collated no room for mistakes as results are real time. You can file petition after results are announced as all all the required documents needed to prove over voting are immediately available.
As much as I agree with your submission about the reliability and effectiveness of electronic transmission of results,there are certain aspects you are missing from my point!

Remember that the electronic transmission isn't full proof and can be altered to favour the ruling party!

All that is needed is a call to INEC chairman instructing him to alter the results and refuse any opposition from inspecting the BVAS or database where these information are stored!

This is why for INEC to be fully and truly independent,the authority of the president to select either chairman or REC officials should be expunged from the constitution!
Secondly,there should be punishment for the electoral regulatory agency when they default on their own laws!
U cannot declare a mode of transmission only to change it during the election proper!

Same is applicable for security and the judiciary!

As long as the president is the one who selects the CJN,these judges will always be subservient to the president esp when their opponents are told to go to court!

No matter how many policemen are sent to protect each ward,ballot snatching will never stop and the police will even assist the agberos to steal more!

Until we have a truly independent police, judiciary and INEC,I do not expect this election to be different from others whether past or previous!
Re: Anugbum Onuoha: We won’t remove Wike’s Cousin As Edo REC - INEC replies PDP by Pythagoras001: 5:27pm On Sep 18, 2024
bentenny:
As much as I agree with your submission about the reliability and effectiveness of electronic transmission of results,there are certain aspects you are missing from my point!

Remember that the electronic transmission isn't full proof and can be altered to favour the ruling party!

All that is needed is a call to INEC chairman instructing him to alter the results and refuse any opposition from inspecting the BVAS or database where these information are stored!

This is why for INEC to be fully and truly independent,the authority of the president to select either chairman or REC officials should be expunged from the constitution!
Secondly,there should be punishment for the electoral regulatory agency when they default on their own laws!
U cannot declare a mode of transmission only to change it during the election proper!

Same is applicable for security and the judiciary!

As long as the president is the one who selects the CJN,these judges will always be subservient to the president esp when their opponents are told to go to court!

No matter how many policemen are sent to protect each ward,ballot snatching will never stop and the police will even assist the agberos to steal more!

Until we have a truly independent police, judiciary and INEC,I do not expect this election to be different from others whether past or previous!
i get what you are saying but it really does not matter who appoint the inec chairman what is most important is having systems in place that block human excesses which we currently don't have. Inec is one of the only organisations in Nigeria that is improving but it is doing so at a slow pace because politician on both sides prefer it that way. Somebody would have to still appoint the chairman. I was very careful with my choice of words Electronic voting Machine with emphasis on paper trails. First the system properly designed cannot be hacked without trace. I know this for a fact. 2 even if an insider was able to hack the network there is a paper trail that everyone can see which can be used to prove the result are not accurate. The emphasis is the paper trail. Stealing the voting machine would be useless so you don't even require poling agent. Little modification inec can do now before going for any up cycle election. Is to use already existing computer vision technology from the bvas to not only do facial accreditation but to take pictures of all ballot paper used and then the bvas automatically collate the results. The collated results and the ballot used are automatically sent to the server. The result could be signed and then be written on paper and given to agents. The paper copy is also scanned and uploaded. Political parties would automatically have all documents to prove over voting. The reason why society functions is by building systems that even if people go rogue they could be easily be caught. The moment where it becomes very easy to prove over voting, and the system is transparent then you eliminate the need for even going to court. The only thing you could not solve is vote buying and voter inducement that would be left to the police. But ballot stuffing can be easily solved. Even as bad as the process is you can see where over voting occurs. Chidoka former aviation minister did nice analysis of the results using bvas report and irev data. You cannot prove over voting in court using just those two you still need polling unit result and voter register from polling unit
Re: Anugbum Onuoha: We won’t remove Wike’s Cousin As Edo REC - INEC replies PDP by bentenny(m): 5:53pm On Sep 18, 2024
Pythagoras001:
i get what you are saying but it really does not matter who appoint the inec chairman what is most important is having systems in place that block human excesses which we currently don't have. Inec is one of the only organisations in Nigeria that is improving but it is doing so at a slow pace because politician on both sides prefer it that way. Somebody would have to still appoint the chairman. I was very careful with my choice of words Electronic voting Machine with emphasis on paper trails. First the system properly designed cannot be hacked without trace. I know this for a fact. 2 even if an insider was able to hack the network there is a paper trail that everyone can see which can be used to prove the result are not accurate. The emphasis is the paper trail. Stealing the voting machine would be useless so you don't even require poling agent. Little modification inec can do now before going for any up cycle election. Is to use already existing computer vision technology from the bvas to not only do facial accreditation but to take pictures of all ballot paper used and then the bvas automatically collate the results. The collated results and the ballot used are automatically sent to the server. The result could be signed and then be written on paper and given to agents. The paper copy is also scanned and uploaded. Political parties would automatically have all documents to prove over voting. The reason why society functions is by building systems that even if people go rogue they could be easily be caught. The moment where it becomes very easy to prove over voting, and the system is transparent then you eliminate the need for even going to court. The only thing you could not solve is vote buying and voter inducement that would be left to the police. But ballot stuffing can be easily solved. Even as bad as the process is you can see where over voting occurs. Chidoka former aviation minister did nice analysis of the results using bvas report and irev data. You cannot prove over voting in court using just those two you still need polling unit result and voter register from polling unit
It does matter who or what process ushers in the head of our institutions!

If the process that brought in the INEC chairman and REC officials are flawed,our elections will be filled with so much controversy no matter the mode of transmission!

If the process that selected and appointed the head of our judiciary is tainted with bias and corruption,the electronic process will be skewed to favour the ruling party who will arrogantly order the opposition to go to court knowing it will amount to nothing as they are in control of that arm of government!

If the means through which the IGP is chosen is based on religion,seniority and loyalty to the presidency,then do not expect the IGP or police to guarantee free and fair election for all and sundry!


The process is far more important than the tool used for election!
A tool or equipment is fraudulent in the hands of a corrupt and an unaccountable INEC official who knows the electoral law cannot punish them if they do what is wrong!
The process not the tools or equipment make our institutions credible!
If we must build a strong institution,we must ensure the process for recruitment is transparent and the recruited accountable to the people and not to the presidency!
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