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Ignorance Of Sarafa Gbadebo by NeoWanZaeed(op): 2:20pm On Sep 17, 2024
*WE JUDGE IN ISLAM WITH WHAT'S APPARENT: A CASE STUDY OF DR SHAROF GBADEBO RAJI'S IGNORANCE*

*Excerpt from Sheikh Al-Muhadith Muhammad Ali Jabata of Nigeria's lecture (May Allah preserve him upon goodness)*


They asked Sharof (A Mumayihoon scholar in Ogbomoso, Oyo state) that can muslims pray upon a dead person whom charm was found hanging on his neck. Sharof replied that, had it been the person is not dead, we would have asked him if he believed the charm on his neck is the one protecting him or not (general exclamation and laughter). What type of useless response is this? How would you ask someone such?


What we are going to ask Sharof is that, are those hanging charms on their neck using it to beautify their body? He should be asking people around if they are using charms for protection or not after the Prophet has said in the Hadith of Abdullahi Ibn Masood that incantation is disbelieve.


For instance, the incantation they does in Yoruba land, is it the Prophet that taught them or did the Prophet understood Yoruba language? The Prophet called incantation and putting of charms on the neck or waist an act of disbelief (Sheikh read out the full Hadith).

The Prophet called something disbelief and you (Sharof) said we should be searching or investigating people's heart. We can't be doing that. People should stay away from these scholars and these types of verdict.


Source: Minutes 73 - 75 of Sheikh's weekly lecture at Hajj Camp, Ilorin, Kwara state (07/07/2024).

Translated and transcribed by Oladele Muhammad (Presido)
Re: Ignorance Of Sarafa Gbadebo by Rashduct4luv(m): 4:06pm On Sep 17, 2024
NeoWanZaeed:
*WE JUDGE IN ISLAM WITH WHAT'S APPARENT: A CASE STUDY OF DR SHAROF GBADEBO RAJI'S IGNORANCE*

*Excerpt from Sheikh Al-Muhadith Muhammad Ali Jabata of Nigeria's lecture (May Allah preserve him upon goodness)*


They asked Sharof (A Mumayihoon scholar in Ogbomoso, Oyo state) that can muslims pray upon a dead person whom charm was found hanging on his neck. Sharof replied that, had it been the person is not dead, we would have asked him if he believed the charm on his neck is the one protecting him or not (general exclamation and laughter). What type of useless response is this? How would you ask someone such?


What we are going to ask Sharof is that, are those hanging charms on their neck using it to beautify their body? He should be asking people around if they are using charms for protection or not after the Prophet has said in the Hadith of Abdullahi Ibn Masood that incantation is disbelieve.


For instance, the incantation they does in Yoruba land, is it the Prophet that taught them or did the Prophet understood Yoruba language? The Prophet called incantation and putting of charms on the neck or waist an act of disbelief (Sheikh read out the full Hadith).

The Prophet called something disbelief and you (Sharof) said we should be searching or investigating people's heart. We can't be doing that. People should stay away from these scholars and these types of verdict.


Source: Minutes 73 - 75 of Sheikh's weekly lecture at Hajj Camp, Ilorin, Kwara state (07/07/2024).

Translated and transcribed by Oladele Muhammad (Presido)
I think you and your Ustadh are ignorance promax!
Re: Ignorance Of Sarafa Gbadebo by NeoWanZaeed(op): 4:10pm On Sep 17, 2024
Rashduct4luv:
I think you and your Ustadh are ignorance promax!
We're expecting your dalil and explanations to refute us
Re: Ignorance Of Sarafa Gbadebo by NeoWanZaeed(op): 4:15pm On Sep 17, 2024
Shaykh jabata lampoon the
Baseless fatwa of Baba Sharaf
Ogbomoso on Jum'ah khutbah language.

As you all know Dr. Sharaf with Olúmo Sopè mantra and he will never state the evidence or name of the Olúmo than quoting as if Olúmo is the source of reference in Islam.
It's undoubtedly known known that, majority of Salaf scholars are of opinion that, Jum'ah khutbah must be delivered in Arabic either the jamah understand Arabic or not with reference to the prophet who delivered khutbah through out his life with Arabic language while all Muslims who attended were not only Arab. No sohaba translate it to another language either.

Jum'ah khutbah with another language is Baseless.
Speaker : Fadl Shaykh muhd Ali Jabata.
Re: Ignorance Of Sarafa Gbadebo by Rashduct4luv(m): 4:36pm On Sep 17, 2024
NeoWanZaeed:
We're expecting your dalil and explanations to refute us
Where's the full clip of what Dr. Sharaf said?

Where's the daleel your Ustadh stated against him?

You just throw abuse here and there without any restraint!
Re: Ignorance Of Sarafa Gbadebo by NobleStag007: 4:56pm On Sep 17, 2024
Rashduct4luv:
Where's the full clip of what Dr. Sharaf said?

Where's the daleel your Ustadh stated against him?

You just throw abuse here and there without any restraint!
What he the olodo doctor said was there..

Why what he said was wrong was stated and refuted
Re: Ignorance Of Sarafa Gbadebo by Rashduct4luv(m): 9:47am On Sep 20, 2024
NobleStag007:
What he the olodo doctor said was there..

Why what he said was wrong was stated and refuted
Show us the evidence of what the Dr. said?

Or are you telling lies?

Bring the Daleel here?
Re: Ignorance Of Sarafa Gbadebo by NobleStag007: 11:37am On Sep 20, 2024
Rashduct4luv:
Show us the evidence of what the Dr. said?

Or are you telling lies?

Bring the Daleel here?
Open your eyes and your brain. I have bolded it for you.. go read
Re: Ignorance Of Sarafa Gbadebo by NobleStag007: 11:40am On Sep 20, 2024
NeoWanZaeed:
*WE JUDGE IN ISLAM WITH WHAT'S APPARENT: A CASE STUDY OF DR SHAROF GBADEBO RAJI'S IGNORANCE*

*Excerpt from Sheikh Al-Muhadith Muhammad Ali Jabata of Nigeria's lecture (May Allah preserve him upon goodness)*


[b]They asked Sharof (A Mumayihoon scholar in Ogbomoso, Oyo state) that can muslims pray upon a dead person whom charm was found hanging on his neck. Sharof replied that, had it been the person is not dead, we would have asked him if he believed the charm on his neck is the one protecting him or not (general exclamation and laughter)[/b]

. What type of useless response is this? How would you ask someone such?


What we are going to ask Sharof is that, are those hanging charms on their neck using it to beautify their body? He should be asking people around if they are using charms for protection or not after the Prophet has said in the Hadith of Abdullahi Ibn Masood that incantation is disbelieve.


For instance, the incantation they do in Yoruba land, is it the Prophet that taught them or did the Prophet understood Yoruba language? The Prophet called incantation and putting of charms on the neck or waist an act of disbelief (Sheikh read out the full Hadith).

The Prophet called something disbelief and you (Sharof) said we should be searching or investigating people's heart. We can't be doing that. People should stay away from these scholars and these types of verdict.



Source: Minutes 73 - 75 of Sheikh's weekly lecture at Hajj Camp, Ilorin, Kwara state (07/07/2024).

Translated and transcribed by Oladele Muhammad (Presido)
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