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Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by Penisman: 1:06pm On Sep 20, 2024
doggedfighter:
So we can contribute to this thread about Allah grin

Are the mods aware ?
I'm not a Muslim and I have commented.... The Mod can do their worst. Do you have such restrictions in Christian threads
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by Feldie: 1:17pm On Sep 20, 2024
Go and repay people you scammed instead of hoping that mumbling a few words to an imaginary daddy will absorb you of your crimes.
Religion is the reason our leaders are so wicked because they believe no matter the evil they do, their God will still forgive them and absorb them of their crimes if they kneel down and mumble a few words.
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by bola4dprec(m): 1:40pm On Sep 20, 2024
irumole1975:
I’ve always been confused about this question I want to ask but I’ll like the Muslim faithfuls to help here.

Let’s say for someone who was into collecting loans from bank without paying, took a lot of money from people he didn’t know without paying bacj, didn’t use to pray, commit adultery, lie a lot and deny the Quran. This type of person, if he were to repent, will he be accepted?

I learnt that if you did all these acts and cheat people (note that you want to make amend by telling the people you cheated but u don’t even know them anymore), I heard that Allah don’t need ur repentance, you’re bound for hell anyways. Is this true?

Is it just enough for this person to continue in his bad ways and leave solah and prayer since it’s guaranteed that he’s going to be punished by Allah regardless? What’s the need of repenting ?
And He it is Who accepts repentance from His slaves, and forgives sins, and He knows what you do
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by Kamalex2:
Bro you are welcome to islam
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by Kamalex2:
Georgry:
Which kind question be this? Terrorists be killing people in their hundreds and thousands but they are still expecting virgins in heaven 😂
Terrorist are not Muslims sogbo 👌
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by Kamalex2: 2:00pm On Sep 20, 2024
Feldie:
Go and repay people you scammed instead of hoping that mumbling a few words to an imaginary daddy will absorb you of your crimes.
Religion is the reason our leaders are so wicked because they believe no matter the evil they do, their God will still forgive them and absorb them of their crimes if they kneel down and mumble a few words.
Almighty Allah said if you do something bad with me and you asked for forgiveness, emi Allah ni oba alaforinjin and I'm ready to forgive your sin, but the things you do to others people, God says you better settle it with he /she before you dead if he/she forgiving you Alhamdulilah, but if not they will be waiting for you at the entrance in the day of judgment, then you don't have any other choice than to settled them, that's why we need to do a good deeds while we are still alive because of the day of pay back
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by cue001(m): 2:04pm On Sep 20, 2024
So you want follow a prophet that was a slave trader and his god permitted it? You're a full time Abdool cheesy

Sahih Muslim 1602
Jabir (Allah be pleased with him) reported:

There came a slave and pledg- ed allegiance to Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) on migration; he (the Holy Prophet) did not know that he was a slave. Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him whether he was a slave (or a free man)
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by doffman: 2:11pm On Sep 20, 2024
Shueld06:
So, Allah truly forgives all sins?
Yes . As long as you repent ; even if you are idol worshipper.
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by Sterope(f):
Please take your shahada as soon as you can, seek for forgiveness from the people you have offended (where you can) and God himself.

As for your debts, please write them down and try to pay them back as much as you can. Let your family know and give instructions for payment after death if you have properties left.

It is advisable in Islam to pay back your debts before you are buried.
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by Sterope(f):
Meeting these people and asking their forgiveness isn't set in stone. Although, it is advisable to ask for their forgiveness as well.

Kamalex2:
Almighty Allah said if you do something bad with me and you asked for forgiveness, emi Allah ni oba alaforinjin and I'm ready to forgive your sin, but the things you do to others people, God says you better settle it with he /she before you dead if he/she forgiving you Alhamdulilah, but if not they will be waiting for you at the entrance in the day of judgment, then you don't have any other choice than to settled them, that's why we need to do a good deeds while we are still alive because of the day of pay back
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by Sterope(f):
1. Won't you find it surprising to learn that historical figures like Bilal (a slave when he embraced Islam and the first man who came up with the adhan and was also the first man to call the adhan), embraced Islam before encountering the Prophet Muhammad. Common sense suggests that taking the shahada (profession of faith) extended beyond direct interaction with the prophet. Also, there are many instances where the Prophet commanded his companions to free Muslim slaves. Which is what the Hadith is most likely suggesting.

Additionally, the conclusion of that hadith isn't that the prophet refused to take slaves' allegiance

2. The practice of taking captives on the battlefield as slaves was common in pre and Islamic Arabia. These practices were rooted in historical and cultural practices.

Don't engage again. I won't reply to you.


cue001:
So you want follow a prophet that was a slave trader and his god permitted it? You're a full time Abdool cheesy

Sahih Muslim 1602
Jabir (Allah be pleased with him) reported:

There came a slave and pledg- ed allegiance to Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) on migration; he (the Holy Prophet) did not know that he was a slave. Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him whether he was a slave (or a free man)
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by Stargurl20(f): 2:57pm On Sep 20, 2024
Stop doubting. Your doubts are from Shaitan. Allah forgives all sin once you truly repent.
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by Shueld06: 2:59pm On Sep 20, 2024
Sterope:
You can join Islam and continue to seek for forgiveness from the people you have offended and God himself.

As for your debts, please write them down and try to pay them back as much as you can.

It is advisable in Islam to pay back your debts before you are buried.
OP said he owe multiple banks…if he owe million of naira , and owe a lot of money to like 100 people, there’s no way he’s going to pay that. There’s no forgiveness for such thing, OP is bound for hell. Allah can only forgive sin done to him, but the sins done to others, I don’t think
So… I don’t think OP need to seek for any forgiveness, does he?
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by Sterope(f): 3:07pm On Sep 20, 2024
Wahshi killed the prophet's favourite uncle, Hamza. Hind chewed a part of Hamza, which was the worst part for the prophet. Both of them became Muslims years later and Wahshi is known to have been one of the companions of the prophet.


So yes he can still take shahada even if he killed people. However, it doesn't mean justice should not be served even if it were capital punishment unless the victim's
family forgives him.

Kamalex2:
Since you don't kill anyone before, bro you are welcome to islam
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by Sterope(f):
Why are you to proclaim that someone is bound for hell? This someome that is truly repentant and seeking God's mercy.

If he owes millions of naira and he can't pay them back, he should still write it down and make it known to his family even after he dies. If they can pay it for him, Alhamdulilahi. If not, it doesn't mean he is bound for hell.

Which is why he needs to work on being a better person to others and a better servant to God.

FYI, Allah forgives all sins with true repentance. Where we can make amends, he enjoins that we make those amends. Forgiveness was created as a mercy to people.


"Say, ˹O Prophet, that Allah says,˺ “O My servants who have exceeded the limits against their souls! Do not lose hope in Allah’s mercy, for Allah certainly forgives all sins.1 He is indeed the All-Forgiving, Most Merciful."
Shueld06:
OP said he owe multiple banks…if he owe million of naira , and owe a lot of money to like 100 people, there’s no way he’s going to pay that. There’s no forgiveness for such thing, OP is bound for hell. Allah can only forgive sin done to him, but the sins done to others, I don’t think
So… I don’t think OP need to seek for any forgiveness, does he?
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by DrChukki: 3:11pm On Sep 20, 2024
Instead of joining Islam, why not join your traditional religion? Or better still, be an atheist... They're far better

Now look, once you join Islam, you develop terrorism tendency... That's to say, you're ready to kpai anyone that speaks against your faith...

You can see that when people tries to question their belief. Only that someone expressed his dissatisfaction that they blocked road during prayer, they all abandoned their prayers and went after him to beat him up... The thread is here on NL

Deborah case is for another day... Don't forget, almost, all Muslims in Nigeria supported it... Reason why Atiku has to delete his Tweet

... Is that who you truly want to become?

If there's no Muslim in your family, I won't advise you to be the one that will bring h@@tred and division among your family members...

They keep telling us that all terror groups are not "real Muslims"

... But, on several ocassions, some Islamic scholars has been linked to different terror group...

... Every terror group today shouts Akbar immediately after perpetrating a heinous crime...

A tree is judged by its fruits... Wisdom is justified by her children.

If all terror groups on earth are linked to Islam, then there must be something wrong with the religion...
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by Sterope(f): 3:24pm On Sep 20, 2024
irumole1975

There several ways to seek Forgiveness

1. Asking forgiveness, there are prayers from the Qur'an you can say for example some of prophets prayers like Adam's, Musa's, Noah's etc
2. Giving charity with sincere hearts - repay your debts first
3. Kindness and patience to others and keeping family ties
4. Praying sunnah prayers
5. Praying voluntary prayers (nafl)
6. Waking up in the last third of the night and asking for forgiveness
7. Speaking good about people and minding your business
8. Patience with your parents especially your mother (doesn't matter if they are not Muslims)
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by etrouble: 3:38pm On Sep 20, 2024
Go and join the Sinners Group where an adulterous woman caught in the act was ask to go and continue fuccking the whole neighbourhood. I am sure Judas Iscariot was one of those fuccking her then. If she or you try it in Islam, your head will be used to play football by toddlers
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by Ykc2(m): 3:42pm On Sep 20, 2024
If you go for jihad in Syria or Iraq your sin is forgiving and you will also enjoy 72 virgins, do you know that no saudi person will go to hell because once you die in mekka heaven straight, that's why old men and women from nigeria are struggling to visit mekka in the age of 80 they are wishing them selves to die in mekka so the can go to janna, a Muslim guy saidi told me
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by Feldie: 5:21pm On Sep 20, 2024
Kamalex2:
Almighty Allah said if you do something bad with me and you asked for forgiveness, emi Allah ni oba alaforinjin and I'm ready to forgive your sin, but the things you do to others people, God says you better settle it with he /she before you dead if he/she forgiving you Alhamdulilah, but if not they will be waiting for you at the entrance in the day of judgment, then you don't have any other choice than to settled them, that's why we need to do a good deeds while we are still alive because of the day of pay back
where did he tell you that? Na your fellow guy man write those things
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by saifuhot: 5:34pm On Sep 20, 2024
RealLordZeus:
Only a dead man has lost the chance for repentance.

No you're wrong in ISLAM a dead man can be forgiven if his family seek repentance (children) for him. Allah is Ar RahamaneeRaheem..
Jazakallah

Be sincere in your repentance and strive to be better
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by malvisguy212: 7:14pm On Sep 20, 2024
irumole1975:
I’ve always been confused about this question I want to ask but I’ll like the Muslim faithfuls to help here.

Let’s say for someone who was into collecting loans from bank without paying, took a lot of money from people he didn’t know without paying bacj, didn’t use to pray, commit adultery, lie a lot and deny the Quran. This type of person, if he were to repent, will he be accepted?

I learnt that if you did all these acts and cheat people (note that you want to make amend by telling the people you cheated but u don’t even know them anymore), I heard that Allah don’t need ur repentance, you’re bound for hell anyways. Is this true?

Is it just enough for this person to continue in his bad ways and leave solah and prayer since it’s guaranteed that he’s going to be punished by Allah regardless? What’s the need of repenting ?
your salvation is not secure in Islam. Salvation is something ONLY GOD can do. But in Islam, man can save himself just by doing good work. Hence Jesus tell the Pharisees that even the pagan can do good work. Are they save. ?

In Christianity, we are justified by the finished work of Christ, in the court of God, the devil is the accusers, but Christ is the our defender.

As a Muslim, who is your defender? Muhammad ? The Quran say Muhammad is in hell fire. If you need proof I will give you.
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by Ekrenji: 7:16pm On Sep 20, 2024
Almunjid:
O My servants who have transgressed against themselves [by sinning], do not despair of the mercy of Allah. Indeed, Allah forgives all sins. Indeed, it is He who is the Forgiving, the Merciful,". (Qur'an 39:53)
All sins including Shirk? Does Allah forgive Shirk too?
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by Kamalex2: 7:35pm On Sep 20, 2024
Feldie:
where did he tell you that? Na your fellow guy man write those things
Muhammed Rosulullah SAW said that
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by rolams(m): 7:40pm On Sep 20, 2024
NetbizBoss:
Yes, sin as you like and you can even kill for Allah his Mercy is already reserved for you.

Just like christians believe you can commit as you like even murder but if you accept that Jesus is Lord and savior your sin are forgiven.

Truelly religion is weapon of mass destruction and spiritual enslavement
Seek knowledge pls!
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by gloryman91(m): 9:02pm On Sep 20, 2024
Yes.
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by Almunjid: 5:44am On Sep 21, 2024
Ekrenji:
All sins including Shirk? Does Allah forgive Shirk too?
Verily! Allah forgives not (the sin of) setting up partners in worship with Him, but He forgives whom he pleases sins other than that, and whoever sets up partners in worship with Allah, has indeed strayed far away. (Qur'an 4:116)
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by Sterope(f): 7:48am On Sep 21, 2024
He forgives shirk too. Half of your religion started with pagans converting to Islam for goodness sake. That verse is for those who don't seek repentance. Shirk is a major sin.

There are sins that are forgiven without seeking forgiveness because they are expiated by good deeds. For example, each of the 5 daily prayers expatiate minor sins prior to that prayer but not major sins. Shirk or disbelief do not fall under that category unless you ask for forgiveness and you stop straying.

Almunjid:
Verily! Allah forgives not (the sin of) setting up partners in worship with Him, but He forgives whom he pleases sins other than that, and whoever sets up partners in worship with Allah, has indeed strayed far away. (Qur'an 4:116)
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by Sterope(f): 7:49am On Sep 21, 2024
Yes, if you truly repent and don't go back to disbelief
Ekrenji:
All sins including Shirk? Does Allah forgive Shirk too?
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by Sterope(f):
When he seeks for forgiveness, he talks directly to God.

1. Jesus is a creation. Everything that comes to earth or heaven doesn't come except as a servant of the Almighty . None of the prophets in the bible before Jesus talked about original sin and needing God to come down to save them. They said the same thing prophet Muhammad said, ask God for forgiveness

2. Islam doesn't believe in original sin. Every child is born pure and is starting on a clean slate. I am not going to account for Adam's deeds. No one accounts for the deeds of their fathers or mothers in Islam. God can use us as trials against one another and that is where it ends.

Adam's story was a highlight about the nature of men. Immediately he realised his mistake and asked for forgiveness. He was forgiven and God told him that he has created forgiveness and his messengers as mercies to us. And that is salvation according to Islam





malvisguy212:
your salvation is not secure in Islam. Salvation is something ONLY GOD can do. But in Islam, man can save himself just by doing good work. Hence Jesus tell the Pharisees that even the pagan can do good work. Are they save. ?

In Christianity, we are justified by the finished work of Christ, in the court of God, the devil is the accusers, but Christ is the our defender.

As a Muslim, who is your defender? Muhammad ? The Quran say Muhammad is in hell fire. If you need proof I will give you.
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by Sterope(f): 8:06am On Sep 21, 2024
It must have been an incredibly impressive feat. In fact, it's surprising that scholars in Rome, Jerusalem etc didn’t document him as a genius for producing the Qur'an.

Just imagine the number of cities and teachers he would have needed to consult to come up with the Qur'an yet none of them recognised or recorded him as a scholar or an exceptional student. I mean his teacher would have clocked that from his writings and imaginations alone. For a man from Mecca, in an era without modern communication like the internet, that is an insane level of work and dedication. It is almost unbelievable.

Feldie:
where did he tell you that? Na your fellow guy man write those things
Re: Want To Join Islam But My Sins Are Too Much. Is Allah’s Mercy Truly Encompassing by Almunjid: 8:13am On Sep 21, 2024
Sterope:
He forgives shirk too. Half of your religion started with pagans converting to Islam for goodness sake. That verse is for those who don't seek repentance. Shirk is a major sin.

There are sins that are forgiven without seeking forgiveness because they are expiated by good deeds. For example, each of the 5 daily prayers expatiate minor sins prior to that prayer but not major sins. Shirk or disbelief do not fall under that category unless you ask for forgiveness and you stop straying.
Lol. You misunderstood the context. The verse refers to those who die while associating partners with Allah; Allah can forgive other sins but not shirk (associating partners with Him). Abdullah reported that the Prophet, peace, and blessings be upon him, said, "Whoever dies while calling upon a partner besides Allah will enter Hellfire" (Sahih al-Bukhari 4497). However, if they convert to Islam and stop committing shirk, Allah says, "Say to those who have disbelieved [that] if they cease, what has previously occurred will be forgiven for them" (Qur'an 8:38).

We can understand three key points from this:
1. Those who die while associating anything with Allah will be forbidden from entering Paradise and will reside in Hell.
2. Those who repent for their sins, including shirk, will receive Allah's mercy.
3. Those who commit major sins but do not associate anything with Allah are subject to Allah's will. If Allah wills, He may punish or forgive them. If punished, their time in Hell will not be eternal; ultimately, they will find their way to Paradise.


Peace!
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