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Neduzoma123456:
School of 294k...

ELECTRICITY;
Give and take , they would spend PATA PATA 700-800k on NEPA bill monthly.
I've worked in a hotel , constant light...we were paying NEPA 500k every month.

I don't see how a school that doesn't operate at night should pay higher self.

SECURITY;
A school that is willing to pay it teachers 55k...how much do you think that smelling school will pay security workers...

They would not even spend more than 35k each .. probably just 3 guards.

WATER;
Don't be Stupid , even on my street , one man just opened like a tank for free water for people to fetch

Then open your school since it is that easy.

1x2x3:
In the role of a parent, you have the option to invest in your child's education by enrolling them in a good sch and paying a hefty sch fees. In return, the school provides education worth 50K.

A teacher who receives a salary of 50K may struggle to save money for professional development opportunities. A well-compensated teacher, however, can invest in courses, improve their quality of life, and ultimately provide better education to their students.

You've said nothing but the truth...save yourself the stress...

You are arguing here with most people who practice this act... Most them want to keep paying dia staffs poorly and hiding under the disguise of tax, nepa bill yen yen yen...

If you check well, the so called tax they claim to pay to Local Government is nothing compared to what they rake in... Don't mind those fools...

My Sister has a Big pharmacy in Nigeria, and the Local Government tax she pays is yearly and it is #8,500... Then she pays license money too Pharmacy council of Nigeria (PCN) it is #200,000 yearly...That doesn't stop her from paying her pharmacists #180,000 monthly

At the end of the month or year, she's still in decent profits to keep the business going... without cheating and short-paying people

I dare one school owner come out tell us what tax they pay and is it monthly, yearly , or weekly ...bunch of liars , looking for excuses to short-change people

You've tried your best.

YoshihideSuga:
Then open your school since it is that easy.

The tax you people claim you pay self...how much is it...and is it yearly or weekly.

All these excuses don't add up...

My sis who owns a pharmacy pays the following tax yearly...

PCN license = #200,000
Local Govt tax = #8,500

Tell me how many taxes schools pay and is it yearly ?

Neduzoma123456:
The tax you people claim you pay self...how much is it...and is it yearly or weekly.

All these excuses don't add up...My sis who owns a pharmacy pays the following tax yearly...
PCN license = #200,000
Local Govt tax = #8,500

Tell me how many taxes schools pay and is it yearly ?

Your sister operates a retail store. When she operates a formulation or manufacturing facility, please come back to write about taxes. Someone who operates a lesson centre or crèche cannot be compared to another who operates a full-fledged school. But hey, if e easy, do am. Abi you no wan make money?

Neduzoma123456:
Below is an example of a school worth fees of 30k

100 students pay 30k = 3,000,000
10 teachers gets 70k = 700,000

10 students per Teacher (very realistic, don't argue)

A term is usually 3 months...School fees is paid once...Total monthly salary of teachers would be 700,000 x 3 months..that gives us = 2,100,000

What stops schools from applying this.

Then imagine a school of 290k as fees paying cheap 55k for labour ...like seriously...THIS IS WRONG!

it just pure wickedness...most School owners and Business owners in Nigeria are cruel...SIMPLE... They only want to use you dry.

You write so well. Unfortunately I cannot say the same for your reasoning.

It is obvious that you don't know the very first thing about running a business.

Too many flaws in your assumptions. Are you expecting that 100% of rh fees will come in as at when due?

Are you aware of the fact that there are several cost centres for a business?

Finally, I just can't imagine why you are bound to accept an offer so ridiculously low reward when you know that you deserve much better.

YoshihideSuga:
Your sister operates a retail store. When she operates a formulation or manufacturing facility, please come back to write about taxes. Someone who operates a lesson centre or crèche cannot be compared to another who operates a full-fledged school. But hey, if e easy, do am. Abi you no wan make money?

I have no passion in owning a school .

Please, tell us about this Unknown Tax school owners are crying about ... I just told you that of pharmacy owners and it being paid once in a year...

Now tell us that of school that warrant them paying poorly...there's no excuse...it pure greed.

My problem is almost every business owners now want to follow suite...even the ones making millions monthly like hotel business...now hide under the desguise of "We are not making enough due to Taxation" ...bla bla bla...when it a pure lie.

UrbaneHR:
You write so well. Unfortunately I cannot say the same for your reasoning.

It is obvious that you don't know the very first thing about running a business.

Too many flaws in your assumptions. Are you expecting that 100% of rh fees will come in as at when due?

Are you aware of the fact that there are several cost centres for a business?

Finally, I just can't imagine why you are bound to accept an offer so ridiculously low reward when you know that you deserve much better.

I want a honest school owner to come out and tell us ...How much tax they pay exactly ?

Give and take ...even with the expenses, they would still be in Good profit...This is just Nigeria for you...

Oga just wants to pack all the millions monthly and leave peanuts for those who are working dia asss out to see him successful.

I've worked as an Auditor in a popular hotel in Lagos, I can tell you first hand Most Employers and Business owners don't care much about the welfare or survival of dia workers in this hard times...

It just about packing all the profits and leaving peanuts behind for staffs .

Neduzoma123456:
I want a honest school owner to come out and tell us ...How much tax they pay exactly ?

Give and take ...even with the expenses, they would still be in Good profit...This is just Nigeria for you...

Oga just wants to pack all the millions monthly and leave peanuts for those who are working dia asss out to see him successful.

I've worked as an Auditor in a popular hotel in Lagos, I can tell you first hand Most Employers and Business owners don't care much about the welfare or survival of dia workers in this hard times...

It just about packing all the profits and leaving peanuts behind for staffs .

Bros, the wonderful thing about life is that you are always left with choices. If you cannot tolerate the poor salary just quit already.

That's the sensible thing to do.

Better still, quite then set up your own business and become exemplary in how profits should be shared.

It can't be simpler than this.

UrbaneHR:
Bros, the wonderful thing about life is that you are always left with choices. If you cannot tolerate the poor salary just quit already.

That's the sensible thing to do.

Better still, quite then set up your own business and become exemplary in how profits should be shared.

It can't be simpler than this.

Of course you are right...that why I'm in full support of the Govt Clamping down on employers taking advantage of the system to under pay people.

Because people are desperate for jobs doesn't mean you should take advantage and pay them peanuts, because you know more jobless folks are out there.

If the labour laws were strong in this country, this shit won't be happening.

Neduzoma123456:
Of course you are right...that why I'm in full support of the Govt Clamping down on employers taking advantage of the system to under pay people.

Because people are desperate for jobs doesn't mean you should take advantage and pay them peanuts, [/b]because you know more jobless folks are out there.

If the [b]labour laws were strong in this country, this shit won't be happening.

Government cannot clamp down on employers because government in itself has failed woefully in providing an enabling environment capable of attracting fresh investors that will inturn create more jobs.

Everyday we hear news of even the existing ones shutting down because of inclement operating conditions. Bros, you would doff your hat of you had even the faintest idea of how difficult it is to run a business in this clime.

Sadly, there are many jobs even in the midst of apparent unemployment. Desperate candidates are those who are under qualified, unskilled and perhaps subpar when it comes to openings. People are being employed daily on mutually agreed upon terms primarily because they present value for which the company is willing to happily pay for.

Upscale your skills and then seek out the right beneficiary for your services and you will get the right reward too.

UrbaneHR:
Government cannot clamp down on employers because government in itself has failed woefully in providing an enabling environment capable of attracting fresh investors that will inturn create more jobs.

Everyday we hear news of even the existing ones shutting down because of inclement operating conditions. Bros, you would doff your hat of you had even the faintest idea of how difficult it is to run a business in this clime.

Sadly, there are many jobs even in the midst of apparent unemployment. Desperate candidates are those who are under qualified, unskilled and perhaps subpar when it comes to openings. People are being employed daily on mutually agreed upon terms primarily because they present value for which the company is willing to happily pay for.

Upscale your skills and then seek out the right beneficiary for your services and you will get the right reward too.

Government has failed ...Does not mean the employers should see this as opportunity to short-change workers..

Secondly...you said people are unskilled and unqualified bla bla bla....

Why won't they...when employers don't offer good salaries, you'll get rubbish individuals as staffs .


Employers should start paying well... And see the calibre of workforce he or she would get...you want to pay peanuts for premium service ... Nonsense...keep exploiting

1x2x3:
If you advertise a teaching position with a salary of 50K, the first thing you should understand is that well-trained, high-quality teachers won't even consider applying. This means you’ll likely receive applications mostly from underqualified or less experienced candidates, leaving you with a pool of subpar options to choose from.
Think about it: no teacher who has invested years of effort and training to hone their skills would settle for such a low salary. It's important to recognize that offering inadequate pay limits your access to skilled professionals, which directly affects the quality of education your students will receive.
Curriculum and environment don't teach kids what they need to know, the teachers do.

A) the teacher's background is irrelevant to the salary that are paid to them. its the circumstances that makes all the difference. some top teachers go to poor neighborhoods to teach for free. others move to the other side of the world to teach for chicken change, in order to live in environment that favors them (aka go check the millions of English teachers from the US/UK/Australia etc teaching in 3rd world countries for peanuts compared to what they would earn if they worked back home). the idea is simply that they earn less in these 3rd world countries but life is cheaper there too.
B) just because someone just graduated as a teacher, doesnt mean that this person is automatically bad. it just mean that person has no experience teaching yet. such "possibly" good teacher wont certainly get the same salary as the top teachers and many schools understand that. paying a bottom salary and looking for freshly graduated teacher may be this school's aim. who knows?
C) stop making it seem as if teachers can just teach whatever they desire in schools. they have curriculum they have to follow; books they have to teach from; specific targets all through the years that they have to achieve for the class. as much as a teacher may be better with kids, he/she cant teach more than what the year curriculum has in place for them. no school teachers is bringing his own school books to distribute to students so that they can now teach something different than what the SCHOOL DICTATES.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST: you need a good school AND good teachers, thats the only way you can impact positively a child's life (you cant do without any of these being good). if your school doesnt have the proper environment for children to learn/grow, the proper facilities for teachers to teach and children to be comfortable in classes (aka chairs/desks etc), the proper curriculum, the proper staff (outside teachers), the proper materials (school books, computers, gym equipment etc), the proper school culture to makes sure that bullying/yeye confraternity (aka blakc axe etc) is not welcomed and weed out ... but most importantly a SCHOOL PRINCIPAL that understands whats important and puts all the effort/focus on making sure that the students achieve their highest potential... then your school is useless!
you can have the best teachers but if your school lacks in what i just described then your students wont achieve anything, just as much as you can have a school with the very best in what i just described and yet fail due to their bad teachers.

so here is the reality: is someone accepting a 55K job automatically a bad teacher? of course not. is it wrong for a school to offer such a low salary hoping to give a newly graduated teacher a chance? of course not!

MrBrownJay1:
A) the teacher's background is irrelevant to the salary that are paid to them. its the circumstances that makes all the difference. some top teachers go to poor neighborhoods to teach for free. others move to the other side of the world to teach for chicken change, in order to live in environment that favors them (aka go check the millions of English teachers from the US/UK/Australia etc teaching in 3rd world countries for peanuts compared to what they would earn if they worked back home). the idea is simply that they earn less in these 3rd world countries but life is cheaper there too.
B) just because someone just graduated as a teacher, doesnt mean that this person is automatically bad. it just mean that person has no experience teaching yet. such "possibly" good teacher wont certainly get the same salary as the top teachers and many schools understand that. paying a bottom salary and looking for freshly graduated teacher may be this school's aim. who knows?
C) stop making it seem as if teachers can just teach whatever they desire in schools. they have curriculum they have to follow; books they have to teach from; specific targets all through the years that they have to achieve for the class. as much as a teacher may be better with kids, he/she cant teach more than what the year curriculum has in place for them. no school teachers is bringing his own school books to distribute to students so that they can now teach something different than what the SCHOOL DICTATES.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST: you need a good school AND good teachers, thats the only way you can impact positively a child's life (you cant do without any of these being good). if your school doesnt have the proper environment for children to learn/grow, the proper facilities for teachers to teach and children to be comfortable in classes (aka chairs/desks etc), the proper curriculum, the proper staff (outside teachers), the proper materials (school books, computers, gym equipment etc), the proper school culture to makes sure that bullying/yeye confraternity (aka etc) is not welcomed and weed out ... but most importantly a SCHOOL PRINCIPAL that understands whats important and puts all the effort/focus on making sure that the students achieve their highest potential... then your school is useless!
you can have the best teachers but if your school lacks in what i just described then your students wont achieve anything, just as much as you can have a school with the very best in what i just described and yet fail due to their bad teachers.

so here is the reality: is someone accepting a 55K job automatically a bad teacher? of course not. is it wrong for a school to offer such a low salary hoping to give a newly graduated teacher a chance? of course not!

Okay.

Neduzoma123456:
Government has failed ...Does not mean the employers should see this as opportunity to short-change workers..

Secondly...you said people are unskilled and unqualified bla bla bla....

Why won't they...when employers don't offer good salaries, you'll get rubbish individuals as staffs .


Employers should start paying well... And see the calibre of workforce he or she would get...you want to pay peanuts for premium service ... Nonsense...keep exploiting

It doesn't occur to you that we are on the same page here?

You are contradicting yourself in every way.
There is a HR guidance that I subscribe to and it goes this; when you pay peanuts you hire monkies.

One day you will mature in your thinking to the point that you come to the reality of life:

Creation is perfect. This perfection guarantees that we only get what we deserve at every point in time. Nothing more nothing less.

In this same economy that is comatose outstanding people are still negotiating for outstanding salaries.

Develop yourself to a point where you are visible, attractive and irrepressible and you will become the interviewers delight.

Let me shock you.....

Just this last week, I was privileged to sit in a panel where a blue chip company bent over backwards to recruit a Marketing practitioner with a reward that is more than triple his line manager gets. This is because of his proven track record in that industry. He got exactly what he wanted because he knew what he was bringing to the table and was able to articulate and defend it effectively. 16 years cognate experience in the same industry.

We are taking about an 8 figure annual income here.

A lot goes into teaching business as a whole. There are a lot of factors that determine the salary and the tuition fees. A school could have an expensive selling point that gulps money which resultant affects the overhead running cost. For instance, a school with digital settings will need constant power supply, wifi subscription, IT gadgets and technicians who will manage the system. This afford mentioned project in the face of Nigerian reality considering the cost of fuel and band A, band B Phcn wahala go no say runming cost go dey high. Anothr is that in each classroom there will be provision of IP boards, projector for each class, systems and power generating plant that can power that.

If the population of the school is not much, definitely, teacher's salary will be affected. Most private school owners don't use their building so they get to pay rent depending on location of the school and the building they occupy. Some pay as much as 5-10million/year or as low as 1-2million/year.

Many schools continue to equip the school facility to retain and attract students and at the same time try to possess their own building in the face of yearly increase in rent.

If you have being a school owner, you will understand that school is capital intensive andost proprietors run schools on loan received from banks and paying back is a must if they they still want to be in business.

I am not a school owner but I have been a school administrator and the made me privy to facts. However, I agree with you that most proprietors/proprietress are exploitative in nature.

Running a school no be yam ooooo, if u think it's easy, try starting one and let's see how much you will pay ur staff.

MrBrownJay1:
AMEN!!!
let us all rejoice at the fools who believe that people open businesses for charity, and therefore use "sympathy" to decide how much they should pay their staff. isnt it equally difficult "in this economy" for business owner to run their businesses?!

its always unemployed people that are quick to talk about sympathy and fairness in the work place. LIFE HAS NEVER BEEN FAIR, especially for unemployed people who are looking down on 55k. even if it is 35k sef, you TAKE THE JOB, and while you earn a meagre salary, you look for a better job. only a rich person would rather stay home and do nothing (while Nepa bills are piling up, fridge is empty and children are wailing in hunger), than getting AT LEAST 55k

Who force you to do business, while dont you employ your family members to work there for free, I'm not even talking about wicked proprietors. Its the Nigerian law enforcement that's killing them. Forget if you know how many benefits n grant some of this mushrooms biz owner enjoy from both local n international organization. But because they own the biz its only them should benefit but when there is crisis, they will want employers to bear with them

Komu1048:
Who force you to do business, while dont you employ your family members to work there for free, I'm not even talking about wicked proprietors. Its the Nigerian law enforcement that's killing them. Forget if you know how many benefits n grant some of this mushrooms biz owner enjoy from both local n international organization. But because they own the biz its only them should benefit but when there is crisis, they will want employers to bear with them

so you actually believe that businesses (just like employees) are not crumbling under this yeye economy and high fuel/high everything?!

MrBrownJay1:
so you actually believe that businesses (just like employees) are not crumbling under this yeye economy and high fuel/high everything?!

Ofcuz, many r facing it. But you justifying a sch that earn much that a kid pays 350k per term but teachers were paid peanut. By all indices that's wrong, why do people hate to pay what's due for service in this country. I just submites a quotation for a work that fans into about 4m. Were dey do have problem is service charge not on product, even if they have cheaper alternative to product they go for luxury but to pay for good service, No that's where they will show their economic sense

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A lot goes into teaching business as a whole. There are a lot of factors that determine the salary and the tuition fees. A school could have an expensive selling point that gulps money which resultant affects the overhead running cost. For instance, a school with digital settings will need constant power supply, wifi subscription, IT gadgets and technicians who will manage the system. This afford mentioned project in the face of Nigerian reality considering the cost of fuel and band A, band B Phcn wahala go no say runming cost go dey high. Anothr is that in each classroom there will be provision of IP boards, projector for each class, systems and power generating plant that can power that.

If the population of the school is not much, definitely, teacher's salary will be affected. Most private school owners don't use their building so they get to pay rent depending on location of the school and the building they occupy. Some pay as much as 5-10million/year or as low as 1-2million/year.

Many schools continue to equip the school facility to retain and attract students and at the same time try to possess their own building in the face of yearly increase in rent.

If you have being a school owner, you will understand that school is capital intensive andost proprietors run schools on loan received from banks and paying back is a must if they they still want to be in business.

I am not a school owner but I have been a school administrator and the made me privy to facts. However, I agree with you that most proprietors/proprietress are exploitative in nature.

Running a school no be yam ooooo, if u think it's easy, try starting one and let's see how much you will pay ur staff.[/quote]

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A lot goes into teaching business as a whole. There are a lot of factors that determine the salary and the tuition fees. A school could have an expensive selling point that gulps money which resultant affects the overhead running cost. For instance, a school with digital settings will need constant power supply, wifi subscription, IT gadgets and technicians who will manage the system. This afford mentioned project in the face of Nigerian reality considering the cost of fuel and band A, band B Phcn wahala go no say runming cost go dey high. Anothr is that in each classroom there will be provision of IP boards, projector for each class, systems and power generating plant that can power that.

If the population of the school is not much, definitely, teacher's salary will be affected. Most private school owners don't use their building so they get to pay rent depending on location of the school and the building they occupy. Some pay as much as 5-10million/year or as low as 1-2million/year.

Many schools continue to equip the school facility to retain and attract students and at the same time try to possess their own building in the face of yearly increase in rent.

If you have being a school owner, you will understand that school is capital intensive andost proprietors run schools on loan received from banks and paying back is a must if they they still want to be in business.

I am not a school owner but I have been a school administrator and the made me privy to facts. However, I agree with you that most proprietors/proprietress are exploitative in nature.

Running a school no be yam ooooo, if u think it's easy, try starting one and let's see how much you will pay ur staff.[/quote]

GanagiBitrus:
Exploitation of over-saturated teaching labor market.
Now you know.

You defined a word with the same word.
Na who send una to over saturate market

Neduzoma123456:
Shut up your smelling mouth.

I don't blame you, but your father who married a hoe to born an animal like you for insulting one for making his own opinions.

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