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| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by discusant: 10:43am On Oct 09, 2024 |
AcuraZDX:This is from a most honest person who wants Nigeria to work. But politicians of Nigeria are busy sharing process from crude oil and gas. Restructuring Nigeria politically is not in the agenda of politicians of today's Nigeria. The country degenerates daily. |
| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by ElSudani: 10:44am On Oct 09, 2024 |
If you read the decree 34 and think someone other than Ironsi ended regionalism you probably need to go back to school. What changed under Ironsi was not the physical structure of the Federation but the entire system of government which we still have till today. Without decree 34 we can still have 36 regions and without any changes to the system of government. Afterall, Midwest region was created was created and the system did not change. The decree 34 made "federal" in Federal Republic of Nigeria a mere name. The quack lawyer Rudolph Okonkwo was talking to didn't know what he was talking about. |
| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by T9ksy(m): 11:28am On Oct 09, 2024 |
Na wa o!!! Even with a headline publication where Ironsi himself was quoted saying "all regions are abolishe", in plain english, some people still find ways to contradict the man. Which kind of brain disorder is this o? Neurologists in house please help us shed light on this type of affliction. |
| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by discusant: 11:30am On Oct 09, 2024 |
ElSudani:Ironsi was killed with the governor of Southwest region. If Ironsi ended regional government, how come he was on a visit to the southwest region? Gowon created states and thus ended regional government system in Nigeria. |
| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by gidgiddy: 11:43am On Oct 09, 2024 |
confusedlady:This is just common sense. Leave propaganda, Google and read Decree, 34, 14 and 15 |
| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by phorget(m): 11:45am On Oct 09, 2024 |
Just blame igbos. |
| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by gidgiddy: 11:47am On Oct 09, 2024 |
Christistruth00:This one is busy parading third party comments because he knows that if he parades Ironsi's decree 34, alongside Gowons decree 14 and 15, it will expose his lies |
| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by gidgiddy: 11:49am On Oct 09, 2024 |
ElSudani:Thats because you never read decree 34 to know it was all about the civil service And never read Gowondms decree 14 that explicitly said that the 4 Region's were being abolished, and replaced with 12 states |
| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Softmirror: 11:50am On Oct 09, 2024*. Modified: 1:38pm On Oct 09, 2024 |
gidgiddy:Oga you keep running in circles. The author made it clear that a military system of government is UNITARY. So, was Ironsi civilian?! The bases of his argument is the style of the military government. Gidgiddy why are you always running in circles?! 😂😂😂😂 . The author didn't think it through with the below emphasis.
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| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Goosethetruth(m): 12:04pm On Oct 09, 2024 |
Ready2speak:😃 |
| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by gidgiddy: 12:08pm On Oct 09, 2024*. Modified: 1:06pm On Oct 09, 2024 |
T9ksy:It was with those headlines that the Lagos/Ibadan expressway media and their Northern cohorts sold the age old lie that Ironsi abolished the Region's They never knew that the age of social media would one day come, and Gowons Decree 14 would be exposed to the world, saying : There shall , on commencement of this Decree, be created out of the Regions, States to be known by the names in column of 1 of the Shedule of this Decree So why would Gowon be creating 12 states out of 4 Regions already abolished by Ironsi? Jokers everywhere 😆 🤣 😂
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| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by gidgiddy: 12:14pm On Oct 09, 2024 |
Housing:You don't know what a Republic is? A Republic simply means you are self governing. Nigeria was a Republic since October 1 1960 |
| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Sapaz02: 12:18pm On Oct 09, 2024 |
Thanks so much for schooling the so called Omokiri |
| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by confusedlady(f): 12:22pm On Oct 09, 2024 |
gidgiddy:Like I said,you can only fool yourself and your fellow deluded and demented IPOB illiterate members. It has been proven to you severally that Ironsi destroyed the regions after the tribal and lopsided Ibo tribal coup of January 1966 with surreptitious support of the grand father of tribalism Nnamdi Azikiwe. No amount of whitewashing,spin doctoring or gas lighting can change the facts. Ironsi abolished the union. Get that in your thick skull! However you are free to wallow in your delusion if you so choose..... |
| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by ElSudani: 12:31pm On Oct 09, 2024 |
discusant:This is the mistake you and the kansogbo lawyer are making. The Regions were certainly there but they ceased to function as autonomous federating units. |
| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by gidgiddy: 12:36pm On Oct 09, 2024 |
confusedlady:You guys can keep saying whatever you want to say, but Gowons Decree 14 and 15, showing how he abolished the 4 Region's Nigeria had, created 12 states, removed resource control, will always be online to tell people the truth
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| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Iamanoited: 12:38pm On Oct 09, 2024 |
LET US STOP NONSENSE BLAME GAME. GOWON OPERATED MARSHALL LAW. REGIONALISM WAS A ROYAL STATUTE AND WAS NEVER LAWFULLY REPEALED. |
| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Iamanoited: 12:43pm On Oct 09, 2024 |
NIGERIA IS NOW A 36 CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITIES. RETURN THE USURPED MANDATES OF SELF POLICING SELF RESOURCING AND SELF ELECTIONEERING POWERS AND LET THEIR GRASSROOT 774 LOCAL GOVERNMENTS DETERMINE THE FINANCING OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. |
| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Softmirror: 12:44pm On Oct 09, 2024 |
ElSudani:As simple as ABC. Even the writer emphasized that military system of governance is a unitary system. Except if Ironsi was a civilian. |
| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Christistruth00: 12:44pm On Oct 09, 2024 |
gidgiddy:That was Gen Ironsi's own Broadcast after decree 34 Gen Ironsi owned up to abolishing the Regions with his entire chest |
| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Anatolia: 12:55pm On Oct 09, 2024 |
Aguiyi Ironsi set the trend and Gowon implemented it so I will hold Aguiyi Ironsi guilty. |
| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by briandermot: 1:26pm On Oct 09, 2024 |
twosquare:. |
| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Kdon2: 2:04pm On Oct 09, 2024 |
AcuraZDX:This mumu trying to push odious agenda by misinforming people. Ironsi was military as Gowon. Why segregating them. It started with ironsi period |
| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Belawy(m): 2:12pm On Oct 09, 2024 |
He saw OIL MONEY crossbreedwears: |
| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by T8ksy(m): 2:36pm On Oct 09, 2024 |
gidgiddy:What exactly is your point? That Ironsi did not make that broadcast that effectively abolished regionalism? That Ironsi didn't claim that "regionalism is the bane of Nigeria"? What then was the purpose of his du.mb decree 34 a.k.a unification decree? what was Ironsi trying to unify? And why? Who asked him for unity? And when? By the time gowon came onboard, there were no regions in the right and original sense of the word rather, they were just redundant means of classification. They have lost their autonomy under Ironsi's decree 34. |
| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by discusant: 3:15pm On Oct 09, 2024 |
ElSudani:So you people have ruled Nigeria since 1970, what stops you from returning regional government system to Nigeria? The Hausa-Fulani? You feel free when you blame all economic and political woies of Nigeria on the Igbo. You people are vile in your Igbophobia. |
| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by crossbreedwears(m): 3:34pm On Oct 09, 2024 |
Lol Belawy: |
| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by frog12: 3:39pm On Oct 09, 2024 |
| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Proudlyomonna: 3:46pm On Oct 09, 2024 |
Tetrahedron:One does not have to be from any certain Tribe to speak the Truth. If Nigeria was truly a Country,our Productivity level would have been massively high quality and adequate resources. Every Tribe in various Countries have their uniqueness. But has Nigeria ever truly been a Country?? There has to be some sort of CENTER UNITING FORCE and I for once agree with Bobo Chicago on this one bcus We for some senseless political sensationalism never made way for a Uniting Force. Take away ingredients such as UNITY.EQUITY.FAIRNESS.JUSTICE.INCLUSIVENESS from a COUNTRY,what You will get will be NIGERIA.
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| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Raf4: 5:14pm On Oct 09, 2024 |
Mrexcell:The same people you're referring to also demanded that secession clause be included in the constitution. Today, those who demanded for it do not want to hear about it whereas those who objected to it are the ones clamouring for it. So, what's your point? |
| Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by gidgiddy: 6:48pm On Oct 09, 2024 |
T8ksy:You guys can coninue your 60 year old lie against Ironsi, but Gowons Decree 14 where he abolished all 4 Region's and created 12 states, as well as Decree 15 where he abolished resource control, will always be there in black and white to tell people the truth I like the part of Gowons Decree 14 that said: There shall, on commencement of this Decree, be created out of the Regions, States to be known by the names in column of 1 of the Shedule of this Decree That one says it all
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