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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 4:43pm On Oct 09, 2024
drisham:
Even this player 😂

Like y'all didn't splash 60m on him the next summer
You're making my point for me. He is in Ipswich now. Telling.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 4:44pm On Oct 09, 2024
airmark:
Leave tinpot, tinkettle or tincan and address the point that your 007 had just 1 goal more than the wasteful Jackson. Are you afraid of challenging Timbros and his Jackson?
Foden's stats are entirely from last season ALONE. That's why he won EPL player of the season.

You can compare the games played for Erling and Foden vs Palmer and Jackson. See if you learn a thing or two on analyzing stats.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 4:46pm On Oct 09, 2024
airmark:
It's just like calling Ballon D'or a tinpot award because Owen won it and failed to subsequently shine.

I just didn't want him to escape from his 007, Jackson and Timbros triangle.
It is a tinpot award because it never really defines the great players.

Winning an EPL title as the player of the season though....some players can never relate.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by ThierryJay: 5:56pm On Oct 09, 2024
Not taking anything away from Palmer's brilliance, but this EPOY award looks more like a breakthrough award.

Kalvin Phillips won it in a year Harry Kane dropped over 40 G/A. Palmer winning it over UCL winner Gbellingham and 50 plus G/A Harry Kane shows it's relevance.

Out of the four English musketeers (Sk,Bh,Pm & Fd) Palmer already looks like the most quality player in terms of talent. But the others have shown more consistent impact at the topmost level and that's what he needs to do more consistently to reach X-factor level.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 6:29pm On Oct 09, 2024
ThierryJay:
Not taking anything away from Palmer's brilliance, but this EPOY award looks more like a breakthrough award.

Kalvin Phillips won it in a year Harry Kane dropped over 40 G/A. Palmer winning it over UCL winner Gbellingham and 50 plus G/A Harry Kane shows it's relevance.

Out of the four English musketeers (Sk,Bh,Pm & Fd) Palmer already looks like the most quality player in terms of talent. But the others have shown more consistent impact at the topmost level and that's what he needs to do more consistently to reach X-factor level.
The bolded is what he is already doing.

And he deserves his EPOY more!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by drisham(m): 6:32pm On Oct 09, 2024
ThierryJay:
Not taking anything away from Palmer's brilliance, but this EPOY award looks more like a breakthrough award.

Kalvin Phillips won it in a year Harry Kane dropped over 40 G/A. Palmer winning it over UCL winner Gbellingham and 50 plus G/A Harry Kane shows it's relevance.

Out of the four English musketeers (Sk,Bh,Pm & Fd) Palmer already looks like the most quality player in terms of talent. But the others have shown more consistent impact at the topmost level and that's what he needs to do more consistently to reach X-factor level.
The players voted !!!!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by ThierryJay: 6:39pm On Oct 09, 2024
Realtord43:
The bolded is what he is already doing.

And he deserves his EPOY more!
Nah, I'm talking UCL and high profile EPL matches.

Switch Palmer and Bellingham's achievements last season and honestly tell me you'd have said Bellingham deserved the EPOY over Palmer!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by ThierryJay: 6:41pm On Oct 09, 2024
drisham:
The players voted !!!!
I know. They voted for the breakout star of the year. Shebi they also voted Calvin phillips in 21 and Saka 2 years ago.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 6:50pm On Oct 09, 2024
Android17:
Foden's stats are entirely from last season ALONE. That's why he won EPL player of the season.

You can compare the games played for Erling and Foden vs Palmer and Jackson. See if you learn a thing or two on analyzing stats.
Your 007 will soon be getting benched for Palmer in the national team. Southgate should bury his face in shame for not playing Palmer more at the Euros.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 6:56pm On Oct 09, 2024
ThierryJay:
Nah, I'm talking UCL and high profile EPL matches.

Switch Palmer and Bellingham's achievements last season and honestly tell me you'd have said Bellingham deserved the EPOY over Palmer!
Which high Profile EPL matches are you talking about?
If you watch Palmer of last season, you won't be talking about high Profile Epl match.

And on UCL, the minutes he got in Man city, he was impactful.

Don't rush the kid bro, he is doing more than what people expect of him.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 6:57pm On Oct 09, 2024
Android17:
It is a tinpot award because it never really defines the great players.

Winning an EPL title as the player of the season though....some players can never relate.
Not every Saka and Palmer has Haaland as goal merchant.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 6:59pm On Oct 09, 2024
airmark:
Your 007 will soon be getting benched for Palmer in the national team. Southgate should bury his face in shame for not playing Palmer more at the Euros.
So England will win titles because of Palmer? Good expectation for his gargantuan talent.

Are we to expect Chelsea to win titles and at least finish top 2 (let me pity him)?

Those were the expectations for Foden and he is delivering.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 7:01pm On Oct 09, 2024
airmark:
Not every Saka and Palmer has Haaland as goal merchant.
Haaland was not here in 21/22 when City won a league title strikerless. KdB scored 15 goals in the EPL that season.

Erling was out for 3 - 4 months last season. If Foden solely depended on him City would not have won the league. City did with Foden being voted the most significant to City's winning.

I need you to have the same expectations for Palmer. No excuses. By the way, Palmer is better than Hazard - that's also fair right?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 7:04pm On Oct 09, 2024
Realtord43:
Which high Profile EPL matches are you talking about?
If you watch Palmer of last season, you won't be talking about high Profile Epl match.

And on UCL, the minutes he got in Man city, he was impactful.

Don't rush the kid bro, he is doing more than what people expect of him.
I am not going to defend Jude Bellingham but you have to admit that if you are not convinced he should be the EPOY then he should also never be the Ballon D'or right?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 7:06pm On Oct 09, 2024
Android17:
So England will win titles because of Palmer? Good expectation for his gargantuan talent.

Are we to expect Chelsea to win titles and at least finish top 2 (let me pity him)?

Those were the expectations for Foden and he is delivering.
We don't have Kane or Haaland as striker.

Foden instead of Palmer in our team last season with wasteful Jackson, would have struggled in relegation waters.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 7:09pm On Oct 09, 2024
Android17:
Haaland was not here in 21/22 when City won a league title strikerless. KdB scored 15 goals in the EPL that season.

Erling was out for 3 - 4 months last season. If Foden solely depended on him City would not have won the league. City did with Foden being voted the most significant to City's winning.

I need you to have the same expectations for Palmer. No excuses. By the way, Palmer is better than Hazard - that's also fair right?
I was expecting Foden's name in the highlighted.

007's performance at the Euros without Haaland and Fraudiola's system, was unacceptable.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 7:18pm On Oct 09, 2024
Android17:
I am not going to defend Jude Bellingham but you have to admit that if you are not convinced he should be the EPOY then he should also never be the Ballon D'or right?
Correct.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 7:24pm On Oct 09, 2024
airmark:
We don't have Kane or Haaland as striker.

Foden instead of Palmer in our team last season with wasteful Jackson, would have struggled in relegation waters.
Foden has won multiple titles without Kane or Haaland. Foden has 6 EPL titles.

Jackson is not the finished product but his numbers were as good as KdBs when City won the league. Palmer's were out of this world. What else is the excuse?

Don't forget Palmer and Foden have played for the same team - City. One stayed and won again. The other is apparently the best player in the world but he should be excused from winning titles. E no gel.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 7:25pm On Oct 09, 2024
airmark:
I was expecting Foden's name in the highlighted.

007's performance at the Euros without Haaland and Fraudiola's system, was unacceptable.
That season? Foden was back to back YPOTY. Have you forgotten?

This past season he had 19 non penalty goals and 8 assists.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 7:29pm On Oct 09, 2024
Realtord43:
Correct.
Then you are at least reasonable and consistent. I can respect that.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by drisham(m): 8:25pm On Oct 09, 2024
You know you can't talk shit on his footballing abilities or greatness...now switching to trophies


Like man city won't win those trophies wether foden exists or not
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 8:31pm On Oct 09, 2024
drisham:
You know you can't talk shit on his footballing abilities or greatness...now switching to trophies


Like man city won't win those trophies wether foden exists or not
Don't be shy like airhead. Is Palmer better than Hazard and Lampard?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 8:34pm On Oct 09, 2024
Watch how they won't answer it.

If it is to talk rubbish hypotheticals they'll be posting multiple brainless posts.

Don't forget both Foden and Palmer played for the same team. We should not be asking what they'll do if teams were switched. We saw Palmer play with the same players Foden plays with.

The talent did not show.

The brighter light shines in the midst of other bright lights but a dim light will shine only in darkness.

IYKYK
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by drisham(m): 8:36pm On Oct 09, 2024
Android17:
Don't be shy like airhead. Is Palmer better than Hazard and Lampard?
He's on course to surpass them yes


This logic is flawed cos he's only played 1full season of senior football



Why are you beefing your academy player 😂
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 8:37pm On Oct 09, 2024
drisham:
He's on course to surpass them yes


This logic is flawed cos he's only played 1full season of senior football



Why are you beefing your academy player 😂
So he is on course to surpass them. Fair answer.

What will he need to do to achieve that?

I have nothing against Palmer by the way. Just like with Jude Bellingham, I drag them when they are being put against their superiors.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 9:08pm On Oct 09, 2024
Android17:
Foden has won multiple titles without Kane or Haaland. Foden has 6 EPL titles.

Jackson is not the finished product but his numbers were as good as KdBs when City won the league. Palmer's were out of this world. What else is the excuse?

Don't forget Palmer and Foden have played for the same team - City. One stayed and won again. The other is apparently the best player in the world but he should be excused from winning titles. E no gel.
When you are comparing a top 9's goals with a midfielder, there's a big problem.

Will City swap Haaland with Jackson? You are Timbros of Manchester city.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 9:15pm On Oct 09, 2024
airmark:
When you are comparing a top 9's goals with a midfielder, there's a big problem.

Will City swap Haaland with Jackson? You are Timbros of Manchester city.
Try dey reason abeg. Your style of harping on one minuscule aspect of a post whilst straying from the main gist is worrisome.

I'm saying if Jackson contributed 14 goals
Palmer contributed 22 goals

That's already more than what City could muster in 21/22 yet City still won the league. That's my way of saying, Jackson is not the reason CFC won't win anything and if Palmer is who you guys say he is, why won't you expect to win tangible trophies?

If I believe Pep is the best manager - I will expect him to win.

If I believe KDB is the best player in the league - I expect him to win.

Same goes for Foden, Rodri etc. I make sure my expectations match my profiling of the manager/players.

You guys in one breath tell us Palmer is the best in the EPL but shield him from the expectations of winning. To me, that proves, you don't truly believe he is the best. I'm just calling out the grand hypocrisy.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m): 9:18pm On Oct 09, 2024
nateevs:
Really? You subscribe to this? Are you really serious?
I am 💯 serious.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 9:20pm On Oct 09, 2024
Do you think Barca want to finish 6th but Lamal will have 50 G/A?

Barca believe they have a potential Ballon D'or winner in their hands (as did Spain) and you can see how they expect to win trophies. That's how it goes.

Airmark, is Palmer better than Hazard? He has to be, abi?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 11:26pm On Oct 09, 2024
Android17:
Try dey reason abeg. Your style of harping on one minuscule aspect of a post whilst straying from the main gist is worrisome.

I'm saying if Jackson contributed 14 goals
Palmer contributed 22 goals

That's already more than what City could muster in 21/22 yet City still won the league. That's my way of saying, Jackson is not the reason CFC won't win anything and if Palmer is who you guys say he is, why won't you expect to win tangible trophies?

If I believe Pep is the best manager - I will expect him to win.

If I believe KDB is the best player in the league - I expect him to win.

Same goes for Foden, Rodri etc. I make sure my expectations match my profiling of the manager/players.

You guys in one breath tell us Palmer is the best in the EPL but shield him from the expectations of winning. To me, that proves, you don't truly believe he is the best. I'm just calling out the grand hypocrisy.
You are going to 2021/2022 just to prove that a striker that had highest XG and missed most of the big chances, was decent. grin

Foden in 41 matches for England, scored a penurious 4 goals. Outside of Fraudiola's system, he is like Jackson in Senegal - fruitless.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 11:47pm On Oct 09, 2024
airmark:
You are going to 2021/2022 just to prove that a striker that had highest XG and missed most of the big chances, was decent. grin

Foden in 41 matches for England, scored a penurious 4 goals. Outside of Fraudiola's system, he is like Jackson in Senegal - fruitless.
What season should I go to? Haaland missed numerous chances last season and City still won the league or are you now claiming that Chelsea will win the league if they had a striker other than Jackson?

I need you to make commitments to your claims so they can be used against you.

You keep telling me about Foden - when I claimed that England has to build around him to be at his and their respective bests. Hope you know you're making my argument for me? If they maximize Foden's abilities by playing him where he will be most dangerous, they'll win.

That's similar to what CFC have done for Palmer with the only difference being, you still don't expect your team to win anything. You'll do same if England was built around him by blaming everybody else.

I won't do same for Foden just like I wouldn't have done same last season when KdB was out.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 12:23am On Oct 10, 2024
Android17:
What season should I go to? Haaland missed numerous chances last season and City still won the league or are you now claiming that Chelsea will win the league if they had a striker other than Jackson?

I need you to make commitments to your claims so they can be used against you.

You keep telling me about Foden - when I claimed that England has to build around him to be at his and their respective bests. Hope you know you're making my argument for me? If they maximize Foden's abilities by playing him where he will be most dangerous, they'll win.

That's similar to what CFC have done for Palmer with the only difference being, you still don't expect your team to win anything. You'll do same if England was built around him by blaming everybody else.

I won't do same for Foden just like I wouldn't have done same last season when KdB was out.
grin

Because he is Messi.

4 goals in 41 matches.
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