₦airaland Forum

Elections have consequences.
We will all be fine. Bhet I will not trust people who have fluffed 99,03,07,11,15,19,23 elections to make the right choice in 2027. Mba! Some of my kin suddenly had a u turn on that useless buhari because kpe he named one stadium after MKO and made June 12 democracy day. Fickle citizens.

Borrow222:
You have started with your nonsense analysis.

Every single person has a way to react and do things. Stop saying that nonsense that Peter Obi will do the same thing.

Tinubu surrounded himself with crook politicians with no single technocrats they only advise him on tribal banter and all sorts of nonsense.

He didn't study the subsidy issues at all and cancelled it without proper consultation and verification.

He cancelled the subsidy and floated the naira with no proper measures to handle the after-effect on the citizens.

You just keep saying trash up and down.

That guy you quoted na idiot normally .

One of the demons we have on human form.

Anytime he hears subsidy or fuel price increase, he comes out from hell and starts talking rubbish.

Emilokan did not cancel subsidy. He just changed the beneficiaries to a new one.

cucumbar:
That guy you quoted na idiot normally .

One of the demons we have on human form.

Anytime he hears subsidy or fuel price increase, he comes out from hell and starts talking rubbish.

Emilokan did not cancel subsidy. He just changed the beneficiaries to a new one.

You have been dreaming about the tree spirits again?

Take two spoons of honey under the light of a half moon, and walk twenty steps holding a white pigeon over your head, then take a feather from the pigeon and put it under your pillow, then plant a seed of maize in your backyard...in the middle of it, at the sunrise, and water it with honey water, and you should soon start dreaming normally


The side effect is that you may attract the Skikatuge manari. TO PREVENT that, take two spoons of salt, one spoon of milo, five spoons of gari, two spoons of acha, ten spoons of orijin, twelve spoons of pepper, five spoons of bile from the gall bladder of a chicken, and ten spoons of rice, mix them together, and boil and then feed the mixture to a three year old child, and you will be ok.

nairalanda1:
Peter Obi was the best candidate, no be lie, but let's be honest, under Obi, we would have had the same result.

By May 2023, the results of decades of borrowing to pay for subsides since the late 1970's was in, and we had a lot of debt from maintaining subsides, which, among other things, was contributing to debt eating 99% of our government revenue.

At the end, and please let's put politics aside, APC, PDP, LP and company, Igbo and Yoruba aside......how are you going to pay for subsides with debt servicing eating 90% of our revenue? Is it by miracle, or by more loans while we wait for the results of good policies.?

Whoever took over, we were in dire straits. Either subsides were removed, or we got into taking more loans...to the point where debt would be eating something like 150% of our revenue. Then we go see shege...real shege.

The annoying thing about this APC government is that they are still doing the same old looting, and same old sharing money, but vote in Obi, and nothing could be done....and even if he raised prices to N400 , it would just be what Buhari was doing all this time ....which worsened the debt situation in the first place...among other causes.

I effing hate to sound like I am defending this government, and lord knows I don't like being called an APC supporter, when I have not voted for either big parties since I started voting., and when I have been suspicious of tinubu since 2005 (when Gani raised questions about his certificate back then)....but in 2023, may... this is what was happening.

debt service was eating 90% of our revenue
Subsidy funding was going to run out by June ending...no matter what tinubu did...and the only way to get subsidy back was by either taking more loans, or removing it to get more extra money, and then using some of that to fund subsidy.

And even now the subsidy that tinubu brught back is causing us more issues...debt has risen again.


What magic would you perform to keep fuel below N200 Per liter, without taking loans and suchlike.?


AM sure you would call me agbado.......but we were in a shitty situation, and it was godawful. Make no mistake, vote Obi, vote Kwankwaso....it would have produced the same result re oil prices.

Yes, I am angry with APC, and they are useless.....but politcs aside, unless you have a pot filled with 130 trillion naira....no way we were going to keep fuel prices low.


The problem with Nigeria is that we keep making the same mistakes over and over again, whoever is in charge , because we don't want to do the right thing, and we don't want to end corruption.

Why are you so confident that even if we were under Obi, that things would be the same as they are now? This is a fallacy of false equivalent.

Different roads lead to the market, but what if you used an untarred road to get to the market, do you think your experience would different if you had used a tarred road?

Let's say that your are undertaking a journey with your family, and in preparation you've carefully worked our the route you'll ply- taking into account rest stops along the way, detours etc, and then something happens last minute that makes you no longer able to go on that journey, so you call your neighbor to drive your family in your place.
Now tell me, will your family's experience of the journey under your brother, be the same if it were you
driving them?

Sure, the goal was to remove subsidy and make Nigeria independent from imported oil products, but then the question becomes - what approach was used? were the necessary measures put in place to atleast soften the effects?

Obi came with detailed planned showing hard facts and figures, and Nigeria voted in somebody that asked if na statistics we go chop? Go figure.

This government shocked the people that had high expectations, but the people that are more shocked were the one's that had very low expectations. It's like the country hit rock bottom and at this rate if we go any lower, Satan will sue us for invading his space.

Bwilliam:
Why are you so confident that even if we were under Obi, that things would be the same as they are now? This is a fallacy of false equivalent.

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Because in may 2023, 90% of our revenue was being eaten by debt, and we had very little money in the forex reserves. Yes we did, despite tinubu and apc govt being in denial.

At the end, good polices take time...meanwhile there was no money in the kitty. amd we have a large population that needs money NOW, and IMF was looking at us one kind.

There is a reason why Obi and atiku both joined tinubu to say subsidy must go...they had their people in the economic sector, and they were not being fed good news. If the NIgerian guardian was reporting as early as August 2022 that debt service was eating 90% of our revenue, and even as far back as 2021, EL Midgeto was weeping in private over dimimisning returns, plus Buhari signs a law....saying tht subsidy would be paid till 2023 june...those were the warning signs. Most of you did not see them or refused to see the,

Obi keeping fuel below cost price as some of you said he would do...would have just made things worse.

ALl in all, tinubu was hit by KARMA...he should have shut up in 2012, him and buhari and occupy Nigeria.

Una go survive,naija people and suffering and smiling na 5 and 6,I can bet u
Even if fuel goes to ₦2000 per liter, people go buy,cars go full road,even at the current price,I experienced mad traffic on lagos roads today.
We only just make noises and later adjust,

naturefellow:
Pity yourself. World generalist!

World supreme judge. I hail o

nairalanda1:
Peter Obi was the best candidate, no be lie, but let's be honest, under Obi, we would have had the same result.

By May 2023, the results of decades of borrowing to pay for subsides since the late 1970's was in, and we had a lot of debt from maintaining subsides, which, among other things, was contributing to debt eating 99% of our government revenue.

At the end, and please let's put politics aside, APC, PDP, LP and company, Igbo and Yoruba aside......how are you going to pay for subsides with debt servicing eating 90% of our revenue? Is it by miracle, or by more loans while we wait for the results of good policies.?

Whoever took over, we were in dire straits. Either subsides were removed, or we got into taking more loans...to the point where debt would be eating something like 150% of our revenue. Then we go see shege...real shege.

The annoying thing about this APC government is that they are still doing the same old looting, and same old sharing money, but vote in Obi, and nothing could be done....and even if he raised prices to N400 , it would just be what Buhari was doing all this time ....which worsened the debt situation in the first place...among other causes.

I effing hate to sound like I am defending this government, and lord knows I don't like being called an APC supporter, when I have not voted for either big parties since I started voting., and when I have been suspicious of tinubu since 2005 (when Gani raised questions about his certificate back then)....but in 2023, may... this is what was happening.

debt service was eating 90% of our revenue
Subsidy funding was going to run out by June ending...no matter what tinubu did...and the only way to get subsidy back was by either taking more loans, or removing it to get more extra money, and then using some of that to fund subsidy.

And even now the subsidy that tinubu brught back is causing us more issues...debt has risen again.


What magic would you perform to keep fuel below N200 Per liter, without taking loans and suchlike.?


AM sure you would call me agbado.......but we were in a shitty situation, and it was godawful. Make no mistake, vote Obi, vote Kwankwaso....it would have produced the same result re oil prices.

Yes, I am angry with APC, and they are useless.....but politcs aside, unless you have a pot filled with 130 trillion naira....no way we were going to keep fuel prices low.


The problem with Nigeria is that we keep making the same mistakes over and over again, whoever is in charge , because we don't want to do the right thing, and we don't want to end corruption.

you have some valid point here, but don't you think that if they can stop their penchant for looting our lean resources and cut down on their luxurious lifestyles of governance, they could have enough pool of resources to embark on any major policy, such as fuel subsidy removal ?
but unfortunately these present leaders of Nigeria, don't want to sacrifice any of their famous comforts for the benefit of Nigeria and Nigerians, thereby making survival more difficult for the vulnerable citizens of Nigeria.
Our leaders are wicked, why still looting our resources when they know how precarious the Nigeria economy have become ?

somebody should help me, pls

I have a seminar to attend tomorrow as a postgraduate student in Unilorin but I don't have transport fare.

#1, 500 or 2k will suffice

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May Almighty God bless the giver

Kukutenla:
Who are these wailers

How have they been surviving before

This is nothing new and it shall pass

Our hope shall be renewed at the end of it all

thunder fire you bastard fellow

press9jatv:
when the righteous rule, the people rejoice and when the wicked rule, the people mourn. It’s in the Bible. As far as I’m concerned, we will survive the sufferings in the land. In fact the price of pump price will increase beyond reducing it. In fact the exchange rate is increasing the sufferings too. All is well.

we pray we survive but with things are going, how far can one survive? it's even difficult to feed once a day now for most people.

Kedikedi77:
thunder fire me bastard fellow

You know yourself

onyxo76:
we pray we survive but with things are going, how far can one survive? it's even difficult to feed once a day now for most people.

yes sooo. It’s now 001 now. Nawaoooo. This time shall pass. We will gonna overcome this challenging times

It shall not be well with Tinubu for bringing pains, sufferings on Nigerians.

nairalanda1:
You have been dreaming about the tree spirits again?

Take two spoons of honey under the light of a half moon, and walk twenty steps holding a white pigeon over your head, then take a feather from the pigeon and put it under your pillow, then plant a seed of maize in your backyard...in the middle of it, at the sunrise, and water it with honey water, and you should soon start dreaming normally


The side effect is that you may attract the Skikatuge manari. TO PREVENT that, take two spoons of salt, one spoon of milo, five spoons of gari, two spoons of acha, ten spoons of orijin, twelve spoons of pepper, five spoons of bile from the gall bladder of a chicken, and ten spoons of rice, mix them together, and boil and then feed the mixture to a three year old child, and you will be ok.

Always writing wrong epistles and saying nothing akin the end.

Is that not madness?

Thunder fire that your yanmayanma blad head!

This is still early morning it will soon get to 5k where all will trake in the contraption and crude sold only to the western powers of Paris Club for their satanic money rituals which Russia hates and fight them for

I learnt that people are buying fuel 1300 in Bayelsa state in other fueling stations apart from NNPC

Softmirror:
The new price is still with in the range we have been buying fuel.

exactly I’m not feeling any impact o.who fit buy fuel 899 fit buy am 1999

Karimjaiye:
Chaii

How do you adjust documents?
Hope it's not for fraud?

Samfloxin:
Very soon,if this nonsense doesn't stop, people will start stealing from any breathing being around him without mercy

Ahhhh!!!! Someone will just carry his mate's stuff

Litteral meaning of

"LAST LAST, NA EVERYBODY GO CHOP BREAKFAST"

cucumbar:
Always writing wrong epistles and saying nothing akin the end.

Is that not madness?

Thunder fire that your yanmayanma blad head!

My good fellow, your condtion is more serious than I thought.

I was wrong, you must be dreaming about the spirtis of the goats on the 100th astral plane. You must cure yourself by drinking a bottle of vinegar at 12 noon tomorrow...and then eating some garri mixed with seven up at night, and then walking 200 steps backward in the middle of the night, and then drinking schnapps mixed with ant juice...and termite eggs, next morning.

But beware, it may attract the calatuku. To get rid of that, you must drink bile juice of an antelope for fifteen days straight, and then after which you must recite the book of Wati Mati seven times at exactly 3.25 pm for five days

smileyoo:
you have some valid point here, but don't you think that if they can stop their penchant for looting our lean resources and cut down on their luxurious lifestyles of governance, they could have enough pool of resources to embark on any major policy, such as fuel subsidy removal ?
but unfortunately these present leaders of Nigeria, don't want to sacrifice any of their famous comforts for the benefit of Nigeria and Nigerians, thereby making survival more difficult for the vulnerable citizens of Nigeria.
Our leaders are wicked, why still looting our resources when they know how precarious the Nigeria economy have become ?

They should do all that, but the amount needed for subsides is far more than what looting and suchlike can gain

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nairalanda1:
Yes it would have been good to have a government cutting costs and corruption, but the amount of money needed to subsidies fuel so that it can, say , cost 200 per liter would have eaten two thirds of our budget.

That means a very heavy debt burden worse than what we have now.

Why do you even believe those over bloated figures they reel out as subsidy amount?
Do you even know the actual quantity of fuel imported and consumed in Nigeria?

Remove the fictitious figures added in quantity they claim to import daily, tighten the boarder against smugglers, control crude oil theft and increase daily production and you will understand that the subsidy figures are over estimated

Stop illegal mining of our precious minerals resources, control insecurity, increase investment in farming and production ventures and see this country come to a progressive path.

OBI no go
Spend billions on
House renovations
Medical tourism abroad
Unnecessary large entourage abroad
First lady office
Presidential jets and yacht
Frivolous spending in the villa and by government


He won't appoint disaster as CBN Governor

Atuero:
:


Why do you even believe those over bloated figures they reel out as subsidy amount?
Do you even know the actual quantity of fuel imported and consumed in Nigeria?

Remove the fictitious figures added in quantity they claim to import daily, tighten the boarder against smugglers, control crude oil theft and increase daily production and you will understand that the subsidy figures are over estimated

Stop illegal mining of our precious minerals resources, control insecurity, increase investment in farming and production ventures and see this country come to a progressive path.

OBI no go
Spend billions on
House renovations
Medical tourism abroad
Unnecessary large entourage abroad
First lady office
Presidential jets and yacht
Frivolous spending in the villa and by government


He won't appoint disaster as CBN Governor

Even then, it still costs a lot to subsidise fuel

The thing is, assuming you want fuel at 200 naira per liter now, that means you will spend N800 per liter to subsidise every liter

Multiply 800 by about 60 million liters by 365 ...you get something like 18 trillion, in a year

That would chop a lot of budget.

The thing is, we should cut a lot of wasteful spending, and I agree with you, but at the end of the day, it may not yield up to two months worth of subsidy, and recovering looted money is not a one day thing....it takes years.

So, here we are.

Softmirror:
I am being objective. Please how much have you been buying fuel. Be sincere

Fool, just keep shut. Zombie discuss is not needed here

nairalanda1:
Even then, it still costs a lot to subsidise fuel

The thing is, assuming you want fuel at 200 naira per liter now, that means you will spend N800 per liter to subsidise every liter

Multiply 800 by about 60 million liters by 365 ...you get something like 18 trillion, in a year

That would chop a lot of budget.

The thing is, we should cut a lot of wasteful spending, and I agree with you, but at the end of the day, it may not yield up to two months worth of subsidy, and recovering looted money is not a one day thing....it takes years.

So, here we are.

Who and who consumed 60milliins daily?
Improve electricity and see fuel consumption nosedive, a good CBN Governor can control exchange rate to a reasonable level by putting in place the right modalities and policies


It's clear your reasoning is below par.

Atuero:
Who and who consumed 60milliins daily?
Improve electricity and see fuel consumption nosedive, a good CBN Governor can control exchange rate to a reasonable level by putting in place the right modalities and policies


It's clear your reasoning is below par.

Hope your succubus concubine hasn't argued with you again.

nairalanda1:
Hope your succubus concubine hasn't argued with you again.

Who is that'?

Atuero:
Who is that'?

Then again, your mermaid and incubus spouses still said yesterday that you were such a lovely fellow....able to last all night long doing it...

nairalanda1:
Then again, your mermaid and incubus spouses still said yesterday that you were such a lovely fellow....able to last all night long doing it...

Are you this senseless and useless?
Sorry I wasted my precious time on responding to you.

Shalom

Atuero:
Are you this senseless and useless?
Sorry I wasted my precious time on responding to you.

Shalom

Have you been slighting Lilith again? No wonder she is angry with you