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Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by jubrilELsudan: 4:39am On Oct 11, 2024
prizeless:
Stop saying what you dont know just because you read an online headline. They are only reassigned to other roles other than Pastoring a Church
BRAINWASHED ODE

Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by jubrilELsudan: 4:43am On Oct 11, 2024
Rebuke:
This is how yhu will use those yhur filthy fingers to type what will destroy yhu. Una go just come online and type rubbish and yhur fellow mumus go dey press like button.
Yhu need to go have yhur head checked
YOU ARE VERY VERY STUPID YOU BRAINWASHED LLAMA

SPECIAL KIRI HAEHAE THUNDER FIRE YOU

Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by BigYash: 4:44am On Oct 11, 2024
Congratulations to these men.. Men with wisdom.. E no easy to convince members o,who no go ,no know..
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by AngelicBeing: 4:59am On Oct 11, 2024
[quote author=lexy2014 post=132375970][/quote]What exactly is your Point, why are you quoting the life time tenure of the founder shocked
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by gaskiyamagana: 5:05am On Oct 11, 2024
iykofias:
Board of trustees for church?
Only mumu don't know that mega churches are business organizations.
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by AngelicBeing: 5:06am On Oct 11, 2024
stagger:
I do not expect you to understand, but I will try to explain. You can choose to throw what I have said away, fine. But I will say it.

This is the first set of generational change in Winners. The present crop of young ministers are in their 40s. It makes a lot of sense to still have the old guard (who are between 63 years and 70 years) to still be in the background providing guidance. If there is a misstep anywhere, there is room for correction. Someone like Bishop Abioye has been there from the beginning: since 1981. FORTY-FOUR YEARS. For goodness sake, do you want them still preaching at 90 years like Bishop Frederick KC Price, or at 80 years like Charles Stanley?

Many of the vice presidents of Living Faith, the ones in charge of local missions, foreign missions, WSF, etc, are all at the retirement age or close to it. By making the leadership now a maximum of 14 years in tenure, those who take over the leaders who are currently in their 40s, will be close to 58 (if not already at 58) by the time 14 years is over. Then a new set takes over. That is how you put a system in place to avoid the kind of succession chaos that almost took over Benson Idahosa's church, Synagogue when TB Joshua died, and SBJ Oschoffa's Celestial church when he died in 1985.

Look at the secular world where you have leaders like Paul Biya who is 90 years. No plan for succession. If he goes, who takes over? Who provides guidance to the younger rulers?

Look at Dangote. He is now 67 years. He has realized age is no longer on his side. He has brought in his daughter and she is now part of the team. He is still there providing guidance. When he is out of the scene totally, she would have found her feet totally.

True leaders put in place proper succession structures so there is no chaos when they are gone. Winners has a clearly spelt out process in the constitution of the church, THE MANDATE.

Sadly, many so-called members of the church have never even read it.
Excellent 👌, l agree with all you wrote, Success without a successful succession plan in place equals a Failure , this your post is spot on wink
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by AngelicBeing: 5:10am On Oct 11, 2024
LordReed:
1. Bishop George Adjeman
2. ⁠Bishop Dayo Olutayo
3. ⁠Bishop Joe Ebhomien
4. ⁠Bishop Dickson Olorunda
5. ⁠Bishop Mike Afolabi (Deceased)
6. ⁠Bishop Bolu Martins
Are they all doing well in their various churches after they left
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by WarriAproko: 5:16am On Oct 11, 2024
No 2 and 3 dun retire. No 4 Oyedepo jnr will take over
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by AngelicBeing: 5:18am On Oct 11, 2024
Vision101:
In RCCG and I believe that it's almost the same for Living Faith, retired senior pastors only stop being permanently in charge of parishes. They are assigned other roles like going from location to location to enforce doctrine of the church, resolving issues and other things that the GO might assign to them. They are regularly invited by pastors in charge to anchor programs etc.

In RCCG the age is 70 years. They cannot set up their own churches.
wink
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by Shattuck(m): 5:21am On Oct 11, 2024
OldBeer:
You are sitting on a very long thing. His son, David Oyedepo jr, is currently being groomed to take over. He even preaches in one of the Sunday services at Ota.
I thought his son left the church too, I saw something like him going to start his own ministry, he even got the blessing of his father.
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by Osanoghodua1: 5:27am On Oct 11, 2024
1 term or 2 term a maximum of 7yrs! I don't like this, it's too short for a future General oversea. Maybe a maximum of 10yrs if elected would have been better, well they must have consulted the Holy Spirit. 58yrs seems too Young for retirement as a pastor, would have preferred 65yrs or that 60yrs because it takes years to gain mileage in the things of God and as such at age 50 may be the most potent service of a man of God. Well, the Holy Spirit knows best. God bless our fathers in the Lord.
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by sexiestharam(f): 5:27am On Oct 11, 2024
Vision101:
In RCCG and I believe that it's almost the same for Living Faith, retired senior pastors only stop being permanently in charge of parishes. They are assigned other roles like going from location to location to enforce doctrine of the church, resolving issues and other things that the GO might assign to them. They are regularly invited by pastors in charge to anchor programs etc.

In RCCG the age is 70 years. They cannot set up their own churches.
Speak for RCCG. There are no roles for retired pastors in Winners.
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by Appletek: 5:28am On Oct 11, 2024
stagger:
I do not expect you to understand, but I will try to explain. You can choose to throw what I have said away, fine. But I will say it.

This is the first set of generational change in Winners. The present crop of young ministers are in their 40s. It makes a lot of sense to still have the old guard (who are between 63 years and 70 years) to still be in the background providing guidance. If there is a misstep anywhere, there is room for correction. Someone like Bishop Abioye has been there from the beginning: since 1981. FORTY-FOUR YEARS. For goodness sake, do you want them still preaching at 90 years like Bishop Frederick KC Price, or at 80 years like Charles Stanley?

Many of the vice presidents of Living Faith, the ones in charge of local missions, foreign missions, WSF, etc, are all at the retirement age or close to it. By making the leadership now a maximum of 14 years in tenure, those who take over the leaders who are currently in their 40s, will be close to 58 (if not already at 58) by the time 14 years is over. Then a new set takes over. That is how you put a system in place to avoid the kind of succession chaos that almost took over Benson Idahosa's church, Synagogue when TB Joshua died, and SBJ Oschoffa's Celestial church when he died in 1985.

Look at the secular world where you have leaders like Paul Biya who is 90 years. No plan for succession. If he goes, who takes over? Who provides guidance to the younger rulers?

Look at Dangote. He is now 67 years. He has realized age is no longer on his side. He has brought in his daughter and she is now part of the team. He is still there providing guidance. When he is out of the scene totally, she would have found her feet totally.

True leaders put in place proper succession structures so there is no chaos when they are gone. Winners has a clearly spelt out process in the constitution of the church, THE MANDATE.

Sadly, many so-called members of the church have never even read it.
Let me tell you something, I knew about you this more than 10 years ago.
So, I was privy to see the Trustee Documents of LFC and in that document, Oyedepo, Mama and David Jr. were listed as Trustees. Abioye was also listed but David Jr. was higher than the Abioye. Aremu wasn't posted at all.
When I saw it, I smiled and shook my head.

We all know what we are doing. All of us.
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by sexiestharam(f): 5:28am On Oct 11, 2024
Shattuck:
I thought his son left the church too, I saw something like him going to start his own ministry, he even got the blessing of his father.
That's his second son. His first son is the head pastor of Faith Tabernacle, Ota.
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by Chinedum300: 5:34am On Oct 11, 2024
Church has turned into Nigerian's politican....
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by Appletek:
RALPHOW:
Congratulations to Bishop David Abioye and Bishop Thomas Aremu
Living Faith members will never forget your impacts in our lives
Congratulations to Bishop David Oyedepo for leading this generation from people
of little faith to giant faith, it's speaking in our lives.
Congratulations to the entire WINNER's FAMILY!!!

For those that are crying more than the bereaved!
Go and study bible, priesthood is always family lineage, unless the children of the priest refused to follow God.
God always prepare a Samuel for His Eli incase Hophni and Phinehas will misbehave.
However Pst. David and Pst Isaac are the best children anyone will ever which to have in life.
Just look at this idiot.
Best children, better than the things your mother produced?

You have dedicated your life to unending folly.
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by piriton: 5:46am On Oct 11, 2024
The growth of the ministry is not dependent on any human
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by LordReed(m): 5:52am On Oct 11, 2024
AngelicBeing:
Are they all doing well in their various churches after they left
Varying levels of success I guess but Adjeman's own is the worst given how the case against him went. While I think Olutayo is the most successful, his church and the attached school are quite big and popular.
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by Trueprophet91: 5:53am On Oct 11, 2024
LordReed:
So basically, all the senior men that started the church with him are now all gone. LoLz.
Goes without saying
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by Adonko(m): 5:53am On Oct 11, 2024
sexiestharam:
What role Sir?
You guyz should drop emotions and focus.. Winners have come to stay till Jesus come...

Read below
"When they retire, they become elders helping in teaching doctrines and resolving issues but not full pulpit activities"...
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by LordReed(m): 5:54am On Oct 11, 2024
Shattuck:
I thought his son left the church too, I saw something like him going to start his own ministry, he even got the blessing of his father.
That was Isaac not David Jr.
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by LordReed(m): 5:55am On Oct 11, 2024
prizeless:
Gone to where?
Either retired or left to form their own church or dead (in at least 1 case).
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by Adonko(m): 5:56am On Oct 11, 2024
lekonso:
One thing I'm very sure of, is that Bishop Oyedepo is a very wise person, he will never do anything that will bring the ministry down. And he will not do anything intentionally against the will of God
You are very correct... He doesn't Just do anything himself.. He hears from God before doing things.. The holy ghost is his personal teacher as is ours too but most of us don't follow his leadings...

John 16 VS 12_14
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by Adonko(m): 6:00am On Oct 11, 2024
LordReed:
That was Isaac not David Jr.
Yes he has gone... His father blessed him and freed him.

Most people think winners is just an ordinary everyday church... No is a commission designed from heaven... You can choose to believe or not...

Bishop David Oyedepo is our today Moses... He is a brilliant man.
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by bewla(m): 6:01am On Oct 11, 2024
Efuaye:
Ministers ought not to leave office in the manner that the civil service does..
They ought to continue serving until old age, unless there is a health concern..
Why is Bishop Oyedepo not retiring if you know what I mean?
Nlfpmd
Kabul if you no you no
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by Shattuck(m): 6:01am On Oct 11, 2024
LordReed:
That was Isaac not David Jr.
ok
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by Cutehector(m): 6:03am On Oct 11, 2024
Melagros:
COMRADES are speechless! Man writing CONSTITUTION for God's body, please is it acceptable?
yep
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by Shattuck(m): 6:03am On Oct 11, 2024
sexiestharam:
That's his second son. His first son is the head pastor of Faith Tabernacle, Ota.
ok, thanks.
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by ObalendeCMS: 6:07am On Oct 11, 2024
Nigerian Christians will make Christianity disgusting to you!
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by Adonko(m):
AngelicBeing:
Excellent 👌, l agree with all you wrote, Success without a successful succession plan in place equals a Failure , this your post is spot on wink
Exactly you are spot on... Success without a successful succession plan in place equals a failure... Most are just blabbing.. It may suffice you to know that even some so-called winners members are talking shit..

This is exactly what is playing in man utd.. ALEX was a great coach no doubt won countless honours for Manchester utd but has no succession plan, and no generational philosophy for the club like Barcelona (tiki taka), a style of play.

So when he left the club kept struggling and is still struggling, different coaches coming up with thier own philosophy just to win honours for a big club like Manchester... They were so crazy about winning Cos they are used to it they had to hire a coach who had total opposite philosophy from Ferguson in the person of Mourinho that they even condemned during his time in premiership that he was a parking bus coach Cos of no succession plan.

That is only were Wenger best Ferguson he built a philosophy/style of play for the club and today even though they have not fully gotten to were they are we can see progress in view with Arteta... My prayer is same fate that befell man utd will not affect thier city neighbour given Guardiola exit.
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by iramure(m): 6:29am On Oct 11, 2024
SocialJustice:
If Abioye is out, who is the empire being handed to? I hope Oyedepo is not thinking of giving it to his wife because it will be the decline of the ministry.
The mighty business empire will be handled by his sons
Re: Bishops David Abioye And Thomas Aremu Retire From Living Faith Church by iramure(m): 6:30am On Oct 11, 2024
Melagros:
COMRADES are speechless! Man writing CONSTITUTION for God's body, please is it acceptable?
Whoever believes that God is involved in any church activity is a MUMU
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