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Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by Teenaira: 6:43am On Oct 11, 2024
Dshocker:
Dem suppose crucify this woman the same way dem nail Jesus for cross.

You can imagine the audacity.
Haba, her sin never reach that of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ said he is the king of the Jews. That is a very big sin.
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by Shollez(m): 6:45am On Oct 11, 2024
Don't mind them jare madam. Them be blind citizen ni
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by UltraSolid: 6:54am On Oct 11, 2024
Amumaigwe:
You are mischievously referencing Korea, Japan and Uk to justify our high cost of energy but left out the fact that other economic parameters such as judicious use of resources, effective anti corruption systems, independent judiciary, security, cutting edge education and healthcare systems, infrastructures, Justice and equity etc are also their hallmark and help to ameliorate the effect of high energy cost. This cannot be said of Nigeria which unarguably is not in their league.

So your argument makes no sense and going tribal makes you sound very stupid because Yoruba people are not innoculated against hardships caused by an inept Yoruba president.
Again, another personalised diatribe-type response that misinterpret my utterances. In fact you are making my point with the bolded which is that all you mention the current Presidency is aware of and trying to reverse with fundamental reforms.

Interesting you mention education. The UK, for example, used to provide tuition grants for Britons to attend Uni. They cancelled that many years ago to replace with student loans to be paid back in instalments when graduates gain employment and are earning salary above a defined threshold.

Why? Because they realised they had to keep education of Britons optimal, to guarantee Britain's position as a developed nation, through quality education, capable of attracting and keeping the best teaching brains in the British education system.

What do you think Tinubu is doing with university student loan that then precipitated increase in higher institution school fees? The reasoning, fom an exposed and intelligent President, is that cheap and subsidized education is counterproductive since we only remain producing graduates inferior to those providing solution for their nations worldwide in Korea, UK Etal.

Nigerians will of course argue for retention of cheap education but what good is that doing for our nation when we should accept quality education at all level, which is essentially about securing and retaining the service of brilliant and highly-trained teachers.plus providing the best learning facilities, is not cheap anywhere worldwide today. We have Universities with science labs that are empty and cannot compare to thoss in primary schools of developed nations. Yet Nigerians will myopically keep demanding cheap education because they cannot see if is bad and self-destructive for them.

Why do you think our brightest brains are headhunted from abroad with ease if not the fact Nigeria cannot give those people, like teachers and doctors, the financial rewards for their skills, that is on offer to them elsewhere?

The same fundamental concept is applicable to almost all levels of Nigerian socio-economic consideration from power supply, with the current tariff increase, to full deregulation of the downstream secfor that will make PMS more expensive but will create appreciable socio-economic and developmental benefit long term for Nigeria. Cheap subsidies everywhere is killing us. Same as, for example, quota system has done immeasurably harm to Nigeria.

We need to reshape Nigeria to be a nation of free-market competition, innovation, productivity and optimal STEM (science, technology, Engineering and mathematics) as the best nations worldwide are, rather than persevere with the worst form off State-sponsored and archaic socialism Nigeria has persevered with for far too long that should be retrained only if we all want to be glorified adult almajiris forever.

Imagine Nigeria, one of the poorest and most troubled nation on earth, subsidising Moslem Hajj to Mecca when the richest and most successful nations in the world don't do such?


This is the reasons for the reforms under Tinubu and not because he is insensitive and sadistic "Tpain" as his detractors claim. We can continue as things are, to please Nigerians who have become addicted to generational poverty and the worst living conditions universally, even though they don't realise it, to then keep producing more children who will be kidnappers, Bandits, beggars, thieves and menaces to society in the the next 15 years.

Or we can embrace painful reforms now for an appreciably better future enroute to making Nigeria more like the UK and Japan rather than remain on her current path to becoming worse than Afghanistan .
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by EdiskyHarry: 7:00am On Oct 11, 2024
I hope tinubu has not mixed cocaine with beans give diz woman
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by UltraSolid: 7:01am On Oct 11, 2024
ShoeGetSize:
Hundreds of businesses are either closing down or relocating, even established corporate giants who have been in Nigeria since colonial times have packed up and left, but we are thriving.😂
We know you must earn your stipend as a regime lick spittle, but have you ever considered just how stupid your arguments sound?
Kai, what a brilliant chap. He's a busted me. Einstein, you are correct. I will confess. I get one million naira from Tinubu himself, in a brown envelope, in his office at Aso Rock, every week, to say all I am saying here. Happy now?
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by Schooljob1: 7:01am On Oct 11, 2024
Oga, the simple question remains "what is Nigeria Minimum wage and the minimum wage of the first world country you mentioned"?
You ended up writing an essay. After beating around the bush you still wrote "I just don't know what makes some of you comfortable comparing Nigeria to the West in 2024"

Who started the comparison ?

Your problem is you know many Nigerian people hardly read so you just write and write to confuse people. I don't blame those that insult you.
UltraSolid:
What was the minimum wage of most European nations, after the devastation of the second World War? Zero in most cases as rebuilding was the agenda then. Same as rebuilding should be the agenda for Nigerians now if we are smart and realistic instead of thinking we should be comparibg the kia car we own to the finest Mercedes Benz our established neighbours has.

I consider those European nations, like the UK Etal, to be at the same level with Nigerian of today, or even better, after they emerged from the second world war.

For example, they had severely destroyed infrastructure, water supply problem, sanitation challenges, severely disrupted power supply etc etc. Is that not the State Nigeria is in today?

Some of you don't wish to accept reality when you simplistically compare Nigeria in 2024 to UK, France and Germany while never taking into account the national sacrifice the citizens of those nations made, in their most troubled days, to get where they are today.

I just don't know what makes some of you comfortable comparing Nigeria to the West in 2024. Perhaps you have never visited developed nation to note how far ahead they are and the effort and sacrifices everyone there, from leaders and followers, put in to create the nations we all now envy today and wish to 'japa' to.

Despite the severe destruction war caused, most of Europe was thriving by 1970 which was 25 years after the second World War ended in 1945. A testimony to the spirit and dedication of Europeans to see the big picture and make sacrifices to achieve it.

What progress has Nigeria and most African nation made since they gained independence 6 or more decades ago? Face reality. We are not ready. When we are, we will see the big picture and, like Europeans, we will be ready to make the appropriate sacrifice to get where we need to.


The challenges of Europe, after the war, spurred on Europeans to be innovation, hardworking and to seek local solutions for local problems . They embraced farming to eat. They gained skills to do more for themselves, like bricklaying and road construction, rather than expect their comatose economy to do it all for them. They embraced scientific research and innovation to provide solution and address challenges.

Our challenges, not caused by Tinubu, has only made Nigerians show the very opposite of the spirit that revived Europe after the war. Bretton Woods helped but ordinary European folks made the sacrificial difference. In contrast, Nigerians only know to complain and demand from the government without ever thinking they could and should be part of the solution.
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by Galadimabawa: 7:04am On Oct 11, 2024
So to go to bed with hungry, for my salary not to be able to feed me for one week, for selling my new Honda bike to settle my daughter school fee and can not afford to buy even old bike again, is what God want me to see? haaaaa.
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by Tristical: 7:06am On Oct 11, 2024
UltraSolid:
Being too sentimental, bitter and partisan, to the extent of calling others "animal", when you should inspect their utterances dispassionately, can never allow a man see the big picture or be optimally effective in life. In fact it only shows me you are emotional, unrealistic and perhaps self-destructive, Yes Tinubu played politics against GEJ because he wanted power for his Party and himself.

Atiku, Obi and Co are doing same against Tinubu today because they too want power. How is Tinubu handling it in comparison to GEJ? Is Tinubu weakly capitulating to power-seeking detractors like Atiku or being Presidential by sticking to his gun and doubling down on reforms he say are crucial and that he believes in politically?

They sponsored protest to blackmail BAT and cause mayhem they hoped would oust him. Same as they used Chibok girls saga and much more more to discredit GEJ. Look at the difference in response of both men. Tinubu, after the scariest stage of the protest riot, came out to say no going back on reforms even as protestors tried to blackmail him to take PMS price back to it's cost under Buhari.

Real leaders live and die by their convictions even though they will always play politics as politicians. Awolowo, Kwame Nkrumah etal showed us this. Whatever Awolowo was doing, to seek political power, did not stop him being the most transformationally effective politicians Nigeria has known ever. Ditto Nkurmah who, for example, delivered Akosombo dam that is still one of the most important source of power supply in Ghana today.

GEJ was an accidental leader and never a real one. As soon as he was blackmailed by agents of regression and stagnation, he would fold and back down. Tinubu is a real and proper leader. Don't get mad at that reality me and you have no power over to be insulting your fellow Nigerian . Politicians will play politics because they are politicians and not saints. Accepting realities, at all levels of life, makes us more pragmatically productive human beings.


Face realities of life as obtains worldwide and gain productive clarity of vision. UK Labour Party attacked the Conservatives mercilessly before the recent election and promised utopia if they won . Britons handed them a massive win. Today, after gaining power, they are telling Britons to brace up for thing to get worse, for a considerable length of time, before they get better. What would be the point of telling Labour prime Minister kIer Stammer "you did and said this against Rishi Zunak" the ousted Conservative Prime Minister, when pragmatic adults know it's all politics? Make una dey reason am na. What matters is for Labour to perform and make the UK better. If not they will be tossed out.

Trump and Harris are also at it currently.

You people with your GEJ this and Okonjo Iweala that are just sentimental and emotional. Learn to accept reality and reason pragmatically.
You obviously lack common sense true leadership is all about listening to the people you lead and ensuring they don't die under your watch. Jonathan was not weak he was kind someone who taught about the people first... It sad that today we brand someone who listens to the people as weak... Then you could afford food to eat compared to now when you can hardly buy anything to eat
How old are you? Because it's seems you still live with your parents
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by Brimstone77: 7:10am On Oct 11, 2024
...

Only tinubu and his family are the ones seeing what God is doing in Nigeria currently..

Even zombies are been blinded by hunger to see it.

People are surviving just by the grace of God.
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by UltraSolid:
Schooljob1:
Oga, the simple question remains "what is Nigeria Minimum wage and the minimum wage of the first world country you mentioned"?
You ended up writing an essay. After beating around the bush you still wrote "I just don't know what makes some of you comfortable comparing Nigeria to the West in 2024"

Who started the comparison ?

Your problem is you know many Nigerian people hardly read so you just write and write to confuse people. I don't blame those that insult you.
Will a person up to speed with national economic consideration ask the question you continue to repeat because you think you have a valid point and have cornered me ?

You want me to indulge a question that makes no economic sense and is oxymoronic? What is the point of comparing per capita income of nations without accounting for the intrinsic economic strength of Nations which give rise to their respective per capita income?

Why will I engage you in such a refundant argument when I am literate per the considerations that determine the minimum wages of nations?

Why don't you first educate yourself about trade balance, i.e surplus or deficit, of nations and we can go from there using that as one of the considerations affectiing the comparative per capita income and minimum wages of nations?
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by UltraSolid: 7:14am On Oct 11, 2024
Tristical:
You obviously lack common sense true leadership is all about listening to the people you lead and ensuring they don't die under your watch. Jonathan was not weak he was kind someone who taught about the people first... It sad that today we brand someone who listens to the people as weak... Then you could afford food to eat compared to now when you can hardly buy anything to eat
How old are you? Because it's seems you still live with your parents
Correct but true leadership also includes taking very tough decisions for the short, medium and long term greater good. GEJ avoided doing that. He was weak. I know hearing that may annoy you but it is the truth.
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by Kaybaba5(m): 7:15am On Oct 11, 2024
UltraSolid:
You personally can never see it because you were born a Yoruba-hating bigot. She is 100% correct. Those who have exposure, beyond Africa, and integrity can testify to what she is saying.

For example, PMS price in the UK is one of the highest in the world but that is not a concern of most Britons since it is not compulsory to own a vehicle, due to near excellent transport infrastructure, nor use petrol generator because power supply is constant and adequate.

Reforms that improve transport infrastructure and power supply are the sort Nigeria must embark on and see to the end. To that end, full deregulation off the downstream sector, is an enabler.

Yes Nigerians pay more for petrol but greater government income, aided by deregulation, means we can hopefully move towards becoming like developed nation that have real and globally relevant/desirable value in their economy rather than what obtains with Nigeria where we subsidized most things, including our currency, but do nothing well enough to benefit from it economically.

For example, Korea and Japan produce cars and electronics the world wants. They have desirable exports. When will Nigeria ever get close to resembling those nation when we want to languish in subsidy mediocrity rather than embrace reforms, painful in the short term, that will stimulate innovation, productivity and solutions-porvistiin nous Nigeria needs to compete and thrive in today's global economy?

Obdurately focusing on petrol price alone misses the big picture per where Nigeria needs to get to enroute to being a developed nation. We need great transport, steady power, proliferation of SMEs, a strong currency based on economic success anchored firmly on manufacturing and exporting more good and services than we import. Etc, etc.

How will all those happen with the subsidy lifestyle some want Nigeria to persevere with which only favours the outlook of Northern leaders who feel government money should basically provide a big and free food parlour for all?

Your bigotry will never allow you see the good a Yoruba man is trying to do.
Rubbish
Kindly remove UK
You are just talking out of point
Everyday UK petrol always drop in price
Stop supporting bad things
People are hungry
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by tete7000(m): 7:22am On Oct 11, 2024
UltraSolid:
You personally can never see it because you were born a Yoruba-hating bigot. She is 100% correct. Those who have exposure, beyond Africa, and integrity can testify to what she is saying.

For example, PMS price in the UK is one of the highest in the world but that is not a concern of most Britons since it is not compulsory to own a vehicle, due to near excellent transport infrastructure, nor use petrol generator because power supply is constant and adequate.

Reforms that improve transport infrastructure and power supply are the sort Nigeria must embark on and see to the end. To that end, full deregulation off the downstream sector, is an enabler.

Yes Nigerians pay more for petrol but greater government income, aided by deregulation, means we can hopefully move towards becoming like developed nation that have real and globally relevant/desirable value in their economy rather than what obtains with Nigeria where we subsidized most things, including our currency, but do nothing well enough to benefit from it economically.

For example, Korea and Japan produce cars and electronics the world wants. They have desirable exports. When will Nigeria ever get close to resembling those nation when we want to languish in subsidy mediocrity rather than embrace reforms, painful in the short term, that will stimulate innovation, productivity and solutions-porvistiin nous Nigeria needs to compete and thrive in today's global economy?

Obdurately focusing on petrol price alone misses the big picture per where Nigeria needs to get to enroute to being a developed nation. We need great transport, steady power, proliferation of SMEs, a strong currency based on economic success anchored firmly on manufacturing and exporting more good and services than we import. Etc, etc.

How will all those happen with the subsidy lifestyle some want Nigeria to persevere with which only favours the outlook of Northern leaders who feel government money should basically provide a big and free food parlour for all?

Your bigotry will never allow you see the good a Yoruba man is trying to do.
It's really unfortunate for sane people to occupy the same spade with bigots like you. Is Tinubu not the arrowhead of those who opposed subsidy removal before? What has changed? Oh, they deceived people, mobilised them to opposed something they had always known was good for the country and turned around and want to sound good and patriotic? What a useless set of dejected, unpatriotic power-seeking mongers they are, willing to run the country down and then claim they are coming back to build it. Yet their foolish wives want to exonerate them that they are not part of the problem. Foolish liars. I blame them? No, I blame foolish and gullible Nigerians who listened to their lie. Time of reckoning has come for those who believe and celebrated lies, time of reckoning will someday too come for those who expound and those who promoted it like you.
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by Schooljob1: 7:25am On Oct 11, 2024
Cornered you? Who has your time?
I saw someone ask a valid question and the way you write long essay to avoid answering sincerely, and I highlighted your insincerity. I noticed some cultures where adults lie with boldness and it's terrible.
After writing 100k words to defend T-pain, you go outside and buy fuel 1,400.
FYI, I am where things work, where drug addicts don't make decisions to be applauded by sycophants. Good day.
UltraSolid:
Will a person up to speed with national economic consideration ask the question you continue to repeat because you think you have a valid point and have cornered me ?

You want me to indulge a question that makes no economic sense and is oxymoronic? What is the point of comparing per capita economic of nations without accounting for the intrinsic economic strength of Nations which give rise to their per capita income?

Why will I engage you in such a refundant argument when I am literate per the considerations that determine the minimum wages of nations?

Why don't you first educate yourself about trade balance, i.e surplus or deficit, of nations and we can go from there using that as one of the considerations affectiing the comparative per capta income and minimum wages of nations?
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by UltraSolid:
Kaybaba5:
Rubbish
Kindly remove UK
You are just talking out of point
Everyday UK petrol always drop in price
Stop supporting bad things
People are hungry
Incorrect and sentimental talk. UK petrol price will drop and increase in price according to prevailing World conditions since the UK is not a producer. Yet UK petrol price has always been consistently amongst the highest in the world and does not drop in price "everyday" as you claim.

Being emotional and biased always leads to making emotional, incorrect and obviously biased argument always. Please educate yourself and try to stop arguing emotionally.

My point, which sentiments blind you seeing, is that there are no riots in the UK over the nation having one of the highest PMS price in the world because the UK does the right thing, per transport and power supply infrastructure for example, to ensure the UK economy is not debilitatingly and inextricably linked to the price of petrol.

My suggestion is that doing same as the UK and other nations have done, as Tinubu is attempting, is the way to go.


The average price for a tank of petrol in the UK is £85.
The average price for a tank of petrol in the US is £46, 46% less than in the UK.
The global average price for a tank of petrol is £60.
https://www.finder.com/uk/car-insurance/international-petrol-prices-map
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by Tochi3(m): 7:29am On Oct 11, 2024
UltraSolid:
Make an economic argument for the bad the Yoruba man is doing and I will inspect it dispassionately. Is it floating the naira that is bad considering what we had before was artificial boosting of the value of the naira, a currency with poor inherent real value since we import far more than we export, that only favoured the North and it cynical bureau de change profiteering?

Nigeria is a big arena of self sabotage that got to where it is today so a few, not even 0.5% of our 230 million population, can live dollar billionaire lifestyle while most Nigerians survive on pittance daily. You think turning that around for the better will come without sacrifice and pain?
grin grin

..you should be in the psychiatric hospital in Iragbaji.. grin grin

grin grin grin grin
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by Ayiba0911: 7:32am On Oct 11, 2024
UltraSolid:
You personally can never see it because you were born a Yoruba-hating bigot. She is 100% correct. Those who have exposure, beyond Africa, and integrity can testify to what she is saying.

For example, PMS price in the UK is one of the highest in the world but that is not a concern of most Britons since it is not compulsory to own a vehicle, due to near excellent transport infrastructure, nor use petrol generator because power supply is constant and adequate.

Reforms that improve transport infrastructure and power supply are the sort Nigeria must embark on and see to the end. To that end, full deregulation off the downstream sector, is an enabler.

Yes Nigerians pay more for petrol but greater government income, aided by deregulation, means we can hopefully move towards becoming like developed nation that have real and globally relevant/desirable value in their economy rather than what obtains with Nigeria where we subsidized most things, including our currency, but do nothing well enough to benefit from it economically.

For example, Korea and Japan produce cars and electronics the world wants. They have desirable exports. When will Nigeria ever get close to resembling those nation when we want to languish in subsidy mediocrity rather than embrace reforms, painful in the short term, that will stimulate innovation, productivity and solutions-porvistiin nous Nigeria needs to compete and thrive in today's global economy?

Obdurately focusing on petrol price alone misses the big picture per where Nigeria needs to get to enroute to being a developed nation. We need great transport, steady power, proliferation of SMEs, a strong currency based on economic success anchored firmly on manufacturing and exporting more good and services than we import. Etc, etc.

How will all those happen with the subsidy lifestyle some want Nigeria to persevere with which only favours the outlook of Northern leaders who feel government money should basically provide a big and free food parlour for all?

Your bigotry will never allow you see the good a Yoruba man is trying to do.
Check PMS price in Libya Africa.
Traveling man, shame go catch you say Libya water cost pass Petrol.
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by ShoeGetSize: 7:41am On Oct 11, 2024
Stop mouthing off like a schoolgirl who has been scorned by her crush😂
You're passionately defending the objectionable for peanuts.

UltraSolid:
Kai, what a brilliant chap. He's a busted me. Einstein, you are correct. I will confess. I get one million naira from Tinubu himself, in a brown envelope, in his office at Aso Rock, every week, to say all I am saying here. Happy now?
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by UltraSolid: 7:45am On Oct 11, 2024
Schooljob1:
Cornered you? Who has your time?
I saw someone ask a valid question and the way you write long essay to avoid answering sincerely, and I highlighted your insincerity. I noticed some cultures where adults lie with boldness and it's terrible.
After writing 100k words to defend T-pain, you go outside and buy fuel 1,400.
FYI, I am where things work, where drug addicts don't make decisions to be applauded by sycophants. Good day.
Lol. Typical 'japa' idiocy and myopia. Getting Nigeria to work as things "work" where you are is the point of the painful reforms initiated by the Tinubu Presidency. How much, for example, do you pay for power supply where things "work"? How much are you utility bills, transport fare, petrol bill, taxes (which you cannot avoid as Nigerians do with ease) and even council tax, medicine prescription bills etc, etc?

Shey na student visas you take reach there? How much is your school fees there? Or can you and other Nigerians who have reached countries like the UK, via the student visas route, lie you did not sell everything you owned in Nigeria and even borrowed massively to get there with many Nigerians even struggling and going off-grid because they could not continue paying the high tuition fee instalment once over there?

You people are too myopic, bigoted and self-hating to understand the set-up where things "work" , like heavy taxation plus high utility and education bill for example, is what is responsible for things working over there.

Things will never "work" in Nigeria if we don't embrace the same set-up they have where things "work" you claim to now live in. You praise where thing "work" but reject what Nigeria must do to become like that. Yet you cannot see the Dog-chasing-it-own-tail mentality of your and your ilk.
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by UltraSolid: 7:50am On Oct 11, 2024
ShoeGetSize:
Stop mouthing off like a schoolgirl who has been scorned by her crush😂
You're passionately defending the objectionable for peanuts.
I know the realm of insultive and personalised argument is where your petty ilk want to remain, yet can't you realise how pathetic you are with this response? You say I am paid to burnish the image of the government. I admit and thank you for your brilliance working out my mission.

That should be cased closed meaning you do not need to speak anymore unless you have talk to add germane to the topic. Instead you repeat same claim, with the bolded above, I have already openly confessed to. Can you not appreciate how dullardly you appear?
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by Urgent1Million: 7:59am On Oct 11, 2024
We are seeing God's hand in Nigeria, Mrs First lady.
God is punishing Nigeria for the wickedness, foolishness and greed of a few bad eggs.
Hopefully, Nigerians will make a better choice in 2027
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by Thedon12(m): 7:59am On Oct 11, 2024
Stop defending a government who is incompetent but selfish. You seems to be making sense based on what the government is saying, but in reality, the reform they claim is only a gamble. E.g the currency is not fully floating and subsidy, maybe when marketers can buy from Dangote directly, we can say is gone; but until then, the so called reform is just on paper and empty propaganda.

UltraSolid:
What was the minimum wage of most European nations, after the devastation of the second World War? Zero in most cases as rebuilding was the agenda then. Same as rebuilding should be the agenda for Nigerians now if we are smart and realistic instead of thinking we should be comparibg the kia car we own to the finest Mercedes Benz our established neighbours has.

I consider those European nations, like the UK Etal, to be at the same level with Nigerian of today, or even better, after they emerged from the second world war.

For example, they had severely destroyed infrastructure, water supply problem, sanitation challenges, severely disrupted power supply etc etc. Is that not the State Nigeria is in today?

Some of you don't wish to accept reality when you simplistically compare Nigeria in 2024 to UK, France and Germany while never taking into account the national sacrifice the citizens of those nations made, in their most troubled days, to get where they are today.

I just don't know what makes some of you comfortable comparing Nigeria to the West in 2024. Perhaps you have never visited developed nation to note how far ahead they are and the effort and sacrifices everyone there, from leaders and followers, put in to create the nations we all now envy today and wish to 'japa' to.

Despite the severe destruction war caused, most of Europe was thriving by 1970 which was 25 years after the second World War ended in 1945. A testimony to the spirit and dedication of Europeans to see the big picture and make sacrifices to achieve it.

What progress has Nigeria and most African nation made since they gained independence 6 or more decades ago? Face reality. We are not ready. When we are, we will see the big picture and, like Europeans, we will be ready to make the appropriate sacrifice to get where we need to.


The challenges of Europe, after the war, spurred on Europeans to be innovation, hardworking and to seek local solutions for local problems . They embraced farming to eat. They gained skills to do more for themselves, like bricklaying and road construction, rather than expect their comatose economy to do it all for them. They embraced scientific research and innovation to provide solution and address challenges.

Our challenges, not caused by Tinubu, has only made Nigerians show the very opposite of the spirit that revived Europe after the war. Bretton Woods helped but ordinary European folks made the sacrificial difference. In contrast, Nigerians only know to complain and demand from the government without ever thinking they could and should be part of the solution.
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by TemmyT002(m): 8:05am On Oct 11, 2024
These people can say and do whatever they like because they know we can't do anything except abuse and curse and rant.
They should keep it.up.
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by Azzik: 8:08am On Oct 11, 2024
UltraSolid:
You personally can never see it because you were born a Yoruba-hating bigot. She is 100% correct. Those who have exposure, beyond Africa, and integrity can testify to what she is saying.

For example, PMS price in the UK is one of the highest in the world but that is not a concern of most Britons since it is not compulsory to own a vehicle, due to near excellent transport infrastructure, nor use petrol generator because power supply is constant and adequate.

Reforms that improve transport infrastructure and power supply are the sort Nigeria must embark on and see to the end. To that end, full deregulation off the downstream sector, is an enabler.

Yes Nigerians pay more for petrol but greater government income, aided by deregulation, means we can hopefully move towards becoming like developed nation that have real and globally relevant/desirable value in their economy rather than what obtains with Nigeria where we subsidized most things, including our currency, but do nothing well enough to benefit from it economically.

For example, Korea and Japan produce cars and electronics the world wants. They have desirable exports. When will Nigeria ever get close to resembling those nation when we want to languish in subsidy mediocrity rather than embrace reforms, painful in the short term, that will stimulate innovation, productivity and solutions-porvistiin nous Nigeria needs to compete and thrive in today's global economy?

Obdurately focusing on petrol price alone misses the big picture per where Nigeria needs to get to enroute to being a developed nation. We need great transport, steady power, proliferation of SMEs, a strong currency based on economic success anchored firmly on manufacturing and exporting more good and services than we import. Etc, etc.

How will all those happen with the subsidy lifestyle some want Nigeria to persevere with which only favours the outlook of Northern leaders who feel government money should basically provide a big and free food parlour for all?

Your bigotry will never allow you see the good a Yoruba man is trying to do.
This is hypocrisy at work, was it not tinubu and his likes that fought tooth and nail to ensure subsidy was brought back under the Jonathan regime. They know subsidy has to go but were playing politics with Nigeria future. Subsidy by now would have been a thing of the past like ten years ago but their selfishness and wickedness did not allow them so I don't get what they are saying....
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by UltraSolid: 8:09am On Oct 11, 2024
Ayiba0911:
Check PMS price in Libya Africa.
Traveling man, shame go catch you say Libya water cost pass Petrol.
Bro, let's start at comparing population so you can appreciate that the challenges of nations, and therefore the solutions or economic policies they embrace, must be different.

Libya: 7 million population approx.
Nigeria: 230 million population approx.

If me and you earn the same salary and I have one child, while you have 10, then it is logical I can feed my child best protein, like chicken and fish daily, whereas you can only provide 4 boiled eggs for all your kids to share daily.

Does not make me a better parent than you. Our challenges are different and the solution we settle on must be different.

Libya, with 7 million people, has a peak capacity of more than 1.2 miion barrels of oil per day. Nigeria, around 1.5 million barrels of oil per day for 230 million people. Is it difficult to see what is so glaringly obvious?
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by Okpebholo1: 8:15am On Oct 11, 2024
kettykin:
We can see it. Fake bishopery. Igbo phobia. Nepotism of the highest order. Xenophobic against people doing business in Lagos. Misplaced judiciary judgments. Certificate forgery.
Which fake bishop and misplaced judgment
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by janeedema(f): 8:23am On Oct 11, 2024
Story for the gods. Everything doesn't have to be about tribalism. Stop being bitter.

The question is simple

Why are poor Nigerians bearing the brunt? What sacrifices have those guys who kept Nigeria in the mess she is in made?

When they tell us, they have cut on the cost of governance for real, then all their chants will sound like one, indeed.



UltraSolid:
You personally can never see it because you were born a Yoruba-hating bigot. She is 100% correct. Those who have exposure, beyond Africa, and integrity can testify to what she is saying.

For example, PMS price in the UK is one of the highest in the world but that is not a concern of most Britons since it is not compulsory to own a vehicle, due to near excellent transport infrastructure, nor use petrol generator because power supply is constant and adequate.

Reforms that improve transport infrastructure and power supply are the sort Nigeria must embark on and see to the end. To that end, full deregulation off the downstream sector, is an enabler.

Yes Nigerians pay more for petrol but greater government income, aided by deregulation, means we can hopefully move towards becoming like developed nation that have real and globally relevant/desirable value in their economy rather than what obtains with Nigeria where we subsidized most things, including our currency, but do nothing well enough to benefit from it economically.

For example, Korea and Japan produce cars and electronics the world wants. They have desirable exports. When will Nigeria ever get close to resembling those nation when we want to languish in subsidy mediocrity rather than embrace reforms, painful in the short term, that will stimulate innovation, productivity and solutions-porvistiin nous Nigeria needs to compete and thrive in today's global economy?

Obdurately focusing on petrol price alone misses the big picture per where Nigeria needs to get to enroute to being a developed nation. We need great transport, steady power, proliferation of SMEs, a strong currency based on economic success anchored firmly on manufacturing and exporting more good and services than we import. Etc, etc.

How will all those happen with the subsidy lifestyle some want Nigeria to persevere with which only favours the outlook of Northern leaders who feel government money should basically provide a big and free food parlour for all?

Your bigotry will never allow you see the good a Yoruba man is trying to do.
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by benqo01(m): 8:25am On Oct 11, 2024
UltraSolid:
You personally can never see it because you were born a Yoruba-hating bigot. She is 100% correct. Those who have exposure, beyond Africa, and integrity can testify to what she is saying.

For example, PMS price in the UK is one of the highest in the world but that is not a concern of most Britons since it is not compulsory to own a vehicle, due to near excellent transport infrastructure, nor use petrol generator because power supply is constant and adequate.

Reforms that improve transport infrastructure and power supply are the sort Nigeria must embark on and see to the end. To that end, full deregulation off the downstream sector, is an enabler.

Yes Nigerians pay more for petrol but greater government income, aided by deregulation, means we can hopefully move towards becoming like developed nation that have real and globally relevant/desirable value in their economy rather than what obtains with Nigeria where we subsidized most things, including our currency, but do nothing well enough to benefit from it economically.

For example, Korea and Japan produce cars and electronics the world wants. They have desirable exports. When will Nigeria ever get close to resembling those nation when we want to languish in subsidy mediocrity rather than embrace reforms, painful in the short term, that will stimulate innovation, productivity and solutions-porvistiin nous Nigeria needs to compete and thrive in today's global economy?

Obdurately focusing on petrol price alone misses the big picture per where Nigeria needs to get to enroute to being a developed nation. We need great transport, steady power, proliferation of SMEs, a strong currency based on economic success anchored firmly on manufacturing and exporting more good and services than we import. Etc, etc.

How will all those happen with the subsidy lifestyle some want Nigeria to persevere with which only favours the outlook of Northern leaders who feel government money should basically provide a big and free food parlour for all?

Your bigotry will never allow you see the good a Yoruba man is trying to do.
You this fool you ended up writing rubbish
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by ShoeGetSize: 8:28am On Oct 11, 2024
There is nothing more dullardly than kneeling before your master with your tail wagging, waiting for a treat, then after you receive your little piece of meat, you run over to social media to sing your master's praises.😂
As far as dullards go, you are Category 1😂😂


UltraSolid:
I know the realm of insultive and personalised argument is where your petty ilk want to remain, yet can't you realise how pathetic you are with this response? You say I am paid to burnish the image of the government. I admit and thank you for your brilliance working out my mission.

That should be cased closed meaning you do not need to speak anymore unless you have talk to add germane to the topic. Instead you repeat same claim, with the bolded above, I have already openly confessed to. Can you not appreciate how dullardly you appear?
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by UltraSolid:
Azzik:
This is hypocrisy at work, was it not tinubu and his likes that fought tooth and nail to ensure subsidy was brought back under the Jonathan regime. They know subsidy has to go but were playing politics with Nigeria future. Subsidy by now would have been a thing of the past like ten years ago but their selfishness and wickedness did not allow them so I don't get what they are saying....
Bro let us chill with revising history. Tinubu and co argued that Jonathan should not remove subsidy unless he put measures in place to mitigate the suffering subsidy removal would cause.

I have admitted opposition political mischief was at play against Jonathan because such obtains worldwide. Always has and always will. Therefore no hypocrisy from me because I always say it as I see it.

My point is that you people should not continue presenting Jonathan as a baby who was been prevented or bullied against doing the right thing. Tinubu is disgracing that notion by bullishly forging ahead with policies toxically opposed by many powerful and influential individuals, political blocs, interest groups and even region. I.e the North that did precisely same against GEJ to set traps for him at every stage. As they are similarly doing with Tinubu.

Both leaders responses have been very different. For example, did protest under GEJ get anywhere near as bad or as bloody as we just saw under Tinubu in August? Yet contrast the responses of GEJ and Tinubu to obvious bullying and intimidation from born-to-rule proponents.

Jonathan was busy trying to appease the North by placing Northerners in uppermost positions of influence. Tinubu has rejected doing that to define his Presidency as independent by refusing an appeasnik deference to the North as GEJ did slavishly.

Abeg remind me whether Buhari gave a toss about the feelings of the South while President and placing Northerners everywhere plus overtly giving Fulanis inordinate power and control everywhere as if the rest of us are slaves and second class Nigerians.

Tinubu, unlike GEJ, understand that it is "damned if you do and damned if you don't" when you are leader. The North alleging ethnic appointment bias against Tinubu today should tell tell us whether Buhari was not far worse while they kept silent over 8 years he was President? Or did Atiku and other Northernes speak this much, or as scathingly, in the entire 8 years of Buhari rule as they have done in Tinubu's 16 months in power?

Tinubu faced worse challenges than GEJ yet he still went ahead to remove subsidy. One of the condition of the August protest was that BAT must return PMS to previous price. Even when protest took a scary and violent turn, Tinubu still came out to say subsidy will not be reversed.

Please sir, if you want success in life then learn to ditch a victim or sentiments-driven outlook.
Jonathan was a weak President and leader. Tinubu is a brave and resolute President and leader.

Jonathan's style defined his Presidency and Tinubu's leadership style will similarly define his for good or bad. It is not for us to judge or make excuses for them on what we think they were prevented from doing. It is about judging them on what they did and the results such had on Nigeria and Nigerians.

You guys making excuses for GEJ, nine years after he left power in 2015, don't see what is glaringly obvious which is that political leaders are defined by their political will to get things done regardless of opposition faced.
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by Emmabyte: 8:46am On Oct 11, 2024
Yes , The hunger in the land can not allow people to see it
Re: People Not Seeing What God Is Doing In Nigeria, Says Remi Tinubu by dododawa1: 8:50am On Oct 11, 2024
Not her fault


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