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Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by MrRemedyAlagbo(m): 11:13am On Oct 13, 2024
highbee02:
“I also noticed that the second doctor kept checking his phone during treatment. Unlike the first doctor who stayed with the children and monitored them closely, the second doctor would only come out when called in for emergencies, and I overheard him complaining on the phone that he didn’t know what to do next.”


Can you just imagine.... people that qualified they'll frustrate them out of the country or institution, checking phone before treating good poisoning,nawa o


Google doctor, browsing TREATMENT OF POISON during an emergency
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by delishpot:
Nigerian doctors and nurses are terrible creatures. Arrogant, proud and nonchalant ,block headed in most cases. If you are lu KY to find a good one, then God is truly on your side
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by EmperorEmerald2: 11:35am On Oct 13, 2024
Anyways Sorry for the Lost of Precious 💕 Lives ...
We need To Investigate the whole drama
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by We4all: 11:37am On Oct 13, 2024
Most Nigerian doctors don't know what to do in cases of emergency. I am more pained that the olodo doctors had more than enough time to save the lives of the children after their grandmom died, but couldn't do anything. RIP little ones, the quack doctors failed you.
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by nairalanda1(m): 11:41am On Oct 13, 2024
BafanaBafana:
Nigerians who have means usually go to the UK and other countries for treatment. You wonder why?
NIgerians who have means also get succesfully treated in nigerian hospitals. You wonder why?
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by nairalanda1(m): 11:42am On Oct 13, 2024
completeskills:
It was different. Sepsis can be misdiagnosed by even the best doctors. There are no obvious symptoms sometimes until it is too late.
In this case it was obvious the girl had pneumonia. She was in severe pain, yet some hospital staff accused her of faking the pain. By the time the pneumonia went to sepsis it was too too late.

So, you were saying?
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by fareed69(m): 12:26pm On Oct 13, 2024
YoungLionken:
They could be one of the families that voted BAT along tribal lines...
Those that voted for Biden didn't die in America?
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by RealDaughter(f): 12:27pm On Oct 13, 2024
CaptainZubi:
Our hospitals in this country is so wack. You'll even come in with an emergency and the nurses and doctors will be acting sluggishly as if you're disturbing them or they're not being paid for the job they're doing. I was in one of these government hospitals some years back and a patient came in bleeding from his head due to an accident. The nurse on duty was basically eating and told them to wait till she finishes her meal.
Na Ruggedity i go use follow up the idiot, before the hospital go inform police na one eye go remain, useless fools,the truth is that the good ones wey believe in nemesis still dey,as you neglect person own na so dem fit neglect your own somewhere someday,abi na every hospital you go dey?
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by YoungLionken(m): 12:35pm On Oct 13, 2024
mcdokwe:
Stop being stupid, can you?
Mumu man...
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by completeskills(m): 12:45pm On Oct 13, 2024
nairalanda1:
In this case it was obvious the girl had pneumonia. She was in severe pain, yet some hospital staff accused her of faking the pain. By the time the pneumonia went to sepsis it was too too late.

So, you were saying?
Please read the full story [url]https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/09/15/girl-died-sepsis-after-being-sent-home-by-gp-hospital/#:~:text=An%20eight%2Dyear%2Dold%20girl,symptoms%20of%20Group%20A%20Strep.[/url] except you are talking about a different one. The signs were acknowledged as a current viral symptom. They had no space in the hospital (am sure you know about the NHS issues) so they asked her to go home due to lack of hospital space for what they consider trivial illness due to symptoms almost like Group A Strep, A prevalent illness at the time and easily treatable by taking lots of fluids and ibuprofen. If they had space free, they would have kept her in the hospital and would have treated her when signs of sepsis started showing.
My point is that this case is different from the gross and plain negligence shown in this Nigerian Case.
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by Solseal007: 12:46pm On Oct 13, 2024
Bmaster:
how can a pap be poisoned,is it that they didn't use a boiled water or is there any poison that can survive a boiled and hot water ?
I'm just curious 🤨
I had read it in other news, some poisons don't react to cooking! Some poisons are made to poison not the usual mishandling of food!

Whoever made the pap must be keeping something dangerous at home or it was intentional poisonous substance that was mixed at making the pap
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by Jeje247: 12:47pm On Oct 13, 2024
Mindlog:
Sue the hell out that hospital even though it would not diminish the pains of the avoidable loss of lives.
Dey lie sha
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by nairalanda1(m): 12:55pm On Oct 13, 2024
completeskills:
Please read the full story [url]https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/09/15/girl-died-sepsis-after-being-sent-home-by-gp-hospital/#:~:text=An%20eight%2Dyear%2Dold%20girl,symptoms%20of%20Group%20A%20Strep.[/url] except you are talking about a different one. The signs were acknowledged as a current viral symptom. They had no space in the hospital (am sure you know about the NHS issues) so they asked her to go home due to lack of hospital space for what they consider trivial illness due to symptoms almost like Group A Strep, A prevalent illness at the time and easily treatable by taking lots of fluids and ibuprofen. If they had space free, they would have kept her in the hospital and would have treated her when signs of sepsis started showing.
My point is that this case is different from the gross and plain negligence shown in this Nigerian Case.
So? They could have moved her to another hospital, or examined in more detail at point of first contact.

Oga, healthcare in NIgeria is bad, but that does not mean that negligence is a sign of how bad it is.
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by jaxxy(m): 1:04pm On Oct 13, 2024
They had enough time to save this children or atleast know what type of food poisoning this could have been instead of telling them to drink palm oil and doing basically nothing.
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by higgs: 1:08pm On Oct 13, 2024
Most non biological poisons can still be detected from the corpses. An autopsy is neccessary to rule out the possibility of criminal poisoning. The doctor who advised them to go home and use palm oil should be punished and re-educated.The hospital should urgently improve on its toxicology testing and treatment capacity. Quite a sad case.
dominique:
The doctor that advised them to.go back home and use red oil deserves to be sacked and have his license withdrawn. In fact, he must be investigated to confirm if he ever studied medicine at all.



Hot water doesn't have much effects on toxic chemicals like cyanide, lead, DDT, arsenic etc unlike biological toxins caused by bacteria. Some bacteria so extremely heat resilient that water boiled at 100°C does not kill them. Now that the patients are all dead and the incompetent hospital staff refused to test them, we may never know exactly what poisoned then
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by nedekid: 1:25pm On Oct 13, 2024
Very very sad.
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by Millex(m): 2:42pm On Oct 13, 2024
The fact that a great number of commenters believe a doctor would ask someone to take red oil just shows that we are very ignorant as a people.
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by Millex(m): 2:46pm On Oct 13, 2024
higgs:
Most non biological poisons can still be detected from the corpses. An autopsy is neccessary to rule out the possibility of criminal poisoning. The doctor who advised them to go home and use palm oil should be punished and re-educated.The hospital should urgently improve on its toxicology testing and treatment capacity. Quite a sad case.
Sadly most hospitals in our dear country are severely underfunded and understaffed. The mere fact that the toxicology could only be done in Lagos is a case in point.

How dare we call out our government officials who are underfunding hospitals, how dare we call out the ministries of Health for not having facilities in place to help preserve lives...

Yet people expect healthcare workers to perform magic and when they dont, they are negligent right?
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by completeskills(m): 3:06pm On Oct 13, 2024
nairalanda1:
So? They could have moved her to another hospital, or examined in more detail at point of first contact.

Oga, healthcare in NIgeria is bad, but that does not mean that negligence is a sign of how bad it is.
I just went through your profile.
lipsrsealed
Enjoy your day.
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by nairalanda1(m): 3:14pm On Oct 13, 2024
completeskills:
I just went through your profile.
lipsrsealed
Enjoy your day.
We got a lot to do about healthcare in nigeria. But negligence in nigeria is not why our healthcare is bad. Poor funding, poorly trained staff, etc etc.

But anyway, all you want to do is mock those who think different from you.
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by grandstar(m): 6:07pm On Oct 13, 2024
Is it food poisoning or someone poisoned their food?
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by yewit37486: 6:45pm On Oct 13, 2024
nairalanda1:
Negligence happens in every country

Like in the UK recebtly a young girl died of sepsis.. negligence

Did the UK happen to her?
The point is the "the number of preventable deaths" as NaijaCrusader pointed out. And I am sure you are aware that a process is then followed in the UK including conducting an inquest to learn the lessons and minimize a repeat occurrence.
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by nairalanda1(m): 6:50pm On Oct 13, 2024
yewit37486:
The point is the "the number of preventable deaths" as NaijaCrusader pointed out. And I am sure you are aware that a process is then followed in the UK including conducting an inquest to learn the lessons and minimize a repeat occurrence.
True, but still does not make my point inellgible
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by yewit37486: 6:52pm On Oct 13, 2024
nairalanda1:
True, but still does not make my point inellgible
Your point had nothing to do with the point of the person you quoted. Whataboutism...
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by completeskills(m):
nairalanda1:
We got a lot to do about healthcare in nigeria. But negligence in nigeria is not why our healthcare is bad. Poor funding, poorly trained staff, etc etc.

But anyway, all you want to do is mock those who think different from you.
Don't get me wrong. Am not mocking you. I was only trying to point out the difference. The one in UK happened due to misdiagnosis because of the similarities in symptoms present while the Nigerian case was just negligence of treatment due to I don't care nature.

Look at it this way....the likelihood of death occuring in the Nigerian case if it had happened in a UK hospital is very low but the UK case will fool most doctors given the same conditions.
It is not to say we don't have good doctors in Nigeria. It is just the difference in circumstances and complexity am trying to point out.
I made mention of your profile because of the kind of "ways of winning argument in nairaland" topic you have created. It gives you off as one who is ready to argue endlessly.
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by nairalanda1(m): 7:21pm On Oct 13, 2024
yewit37486:
Your point had nothing to do with the point of the person you quoted. Whataboutism...
Your comment still does not negate my point
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by Caseless: 3:28am On Oct 14, 2024
: “I was with them at the hospital. There were four consultants and other doctors trying to save the lives of the children but unfortunately, they died. So, it is not true that the hospital lacks the facility to tackle such a case. It was not the fault of the doctors. Unfortunately, this happened.”
No investigation. They just deny everything.
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by dominique(mod): 4:55am On Oct 14, 2024
descarado:
But some of our doctors na olodo.
When my baby was rushed to the hospital due to aspiration, oxygen tank dey there yet the olodo was fidgeting and shaking until baby turned blue. This is something I don't like remembering. The nurse was screaming at him to act,
Some of us are really bad ones, you know
Wow! So sorry to hear about that sad
Didn't they perform basic CPR while trying to get the oxygen tank working? sad
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by Millex(m): 8:43am On Oct 14, 2024
Caseless:
No investigation. They just deny everything.
You were there to confirm that no investigation was done?
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by descarado: 3:33pm On Oct 14, 2024
dominique:
Wow! So sorry to hear about that sad
Didn't they perform basic CPR while trying to get the oxygen tank working? sad
No need performing cpr when the oxygen tank is working. Nurse said a chikd died a day before cos of the clumsiness of that doctor.

He was just clumsy walking round the room doing absolutely nothing till baby died. And it's a big general hospital.


The thing is this, he was not properly trained an and emergency unit doctor. That's a specialty. Our doctors work everywhere with just basic training.

If it's abroad, once you come in, they put the baby on oxygen first before any other thing cos it was severe, then breath in and out few seconds, suction with suction machine, just like that.
That's probably the basic. If it's not easing up that much, emergency bronchoscopy will be performed cos it may be something bigger. It normally ease up when suction machine is used.


He can't even perform an endoscopy unless it's his specialisation. We are really doomed in healthcare. Sighs.
Re: Retiree, Four Grandchildren Die In UNIMEDTH, Family Alleges Negligence by descarado: 3:39pm On Oct 14, 2024
dominique:
Wow! So sorry to hear about that sad
Didn't they perform basic CPR while trying to get the oxygen tank working? sad
It was working. He was just clumsy with fish brain.
Oxygen first and when the patients breathing stabilises a little, suction, put mask, suction, put mask until the airway is cleared. This will not take up to 20 minutes
We don't have emergency unit doctors. Assuming a bronchoscopy is required, I bet you they don't have an endoscopist.

Nigeeia has a doomed healtcare service. Religious people will continue to make money off people till our healthcare improves
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