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These things only become a problem in Africa. There's nothing wrong in it and I don't know why that sounds as a threat in Nigeria.

Since after Malaysia and Singapore separated, both of them have been successful. They just needed to be sincere with themselves and take the best approach and it works.

We all know that Nigeria is not working as we are together, nothing is wrong if we break. Don't see it as threat, but a way to reevaluate things.

We should tell ourselves the truth and accept the reality, Nigeria cannot work. It can't.

Germany separated at some point and they came back again. So it's normal, Africans should stop thinking primitively.
It's not a do or die affair.

Trollronaldo:
These things only become a problem in Africa. There's nothing wrong in it and I don't know why that sounds as a threat in Nigeria.

Since after Malaysia and Singapore separated, both of them have been successful. They just needed to be sincere with themselves and take the best approach and it works.

We all know that Nigeria is not working as we are together, nothing is wrong if we break. Don't see it as threat, but a way to reevaluate things.

We should tell ourselves the truth and accept the reality, Nigeria cannot work. It can't.

Germany separated at some point and thy came back again. So it's normal, Africans should stop think primitively.
It's not a do or die affair

Some Africans enjoy dominating other tribes... It makes them feel powerful... That's the first problem

The Parasites of the Sahel who only derive benefits without work or resources endowment won't like to hear of this...

Dubai would have been just another competition with Southern region if the amalgamation didn't happen 🙄

TooMuchStuff:
The Parasites of the Sahel who only derive benefits without work or resources endowment won't like to hear of this...

Dubai would have been just another competition with Southern region if the amalgamation didn't happen 🙄

it's not just the Sahel but a few persons from all these regions who derive benefits Nigeria what does an average northerner gains if south secedes? Maybe high cost of petrol which is at the extreme already truth is all regions are better of on there on and they'll do better, obviously one Nigeria is a sham but we haven't been properly educated on what we stand to gain or loose from this union because a of a few persons fear of loosing the oil benefits.

True

But the issue with this case is those people who wanted to opt out of this contraption also denied others from leaving when they had the power.

We can say the situation is Karma revisiting

In Nigeria, couple of the so called major ethnic groups are more interested in what they are able to deprive others from getting, to the extent that they care less about what they get from the system themselves. Inflicting Tpain on others, matters more to them, so much so that they wouldn't mind if they have to also suffer the severity of such avoidable pain, just to antagonise their real and imagined enemies. As long as you are not happy, they are happy and feel accomplished. So why would they accept you go your separate ways? Sadism?

helinues:
True

But the issue with this case is those people who wanted to opt out of this contraption also denied others from leaving when they had the power.

We can say the situation is Karma revisiting

I agree with you.
In the same vein, because your uncle denied your father the family inheritance, you his son must also remain poor.

Dalohad:
I agree with you.
In the same vein, because your uncle denied your father the family inheritance, you his son must also remain poor.

What radarada is this one talking about?

helinues:
What radarada is this one talking about?

We are saying the same thing. If your brain cells are efficient you would grab the point I made .

Dalohad:
We are saying the same thing. If your brain cells are efficient you would grab the point I made .

Probably comprehension problem

helinues:
Probably comprehension problem

I see you yesterday

BAMBAMbiglow:
I see you yesterday

Are you familiar with seeing ghosts?

helinues:
Are you familiar with seeing ghosts?

The picture depicted what you do to those innocent women in the market

BAMBAMbiglow:
The picture depicted what you do to those innocent women in the market

Radarada talk

helinues:
Probably comprehension problem

You are correct, that's why you need to optimize your brain from the sub-par Agbadorian level to a Human level of reasoning.

helinues:
Radarada talk

Have your cousin started showing early signs ?

Absolutely nothing!

And whose region will pay up the debt Nigeria is borrowing?… what people don’t understand is that you can’t be owing someone rent and pack out to go and live in another place, there must be an agreement before all the loans Nigeria took was granted, that might include every secession attempt be treated as treasonable offence. This is why Nnamdi Kanu is Still under DSS custody.

He would’ve been released if Nigerian govt have no written agreement with a third party( the ones controlling the nation’s economy and giving out loans to every government)
This is why it will be very difficult to release Nnamdi Kanu, it’s not in Tinubu’s power to do so. Not like he cannot release him, he can but that will cost him his government. He will likely be impeached or dealt with, systematically assassinated like how they do to other presidents that doesn’t follow simple order.

Nigeria can never divide, once we’re debt free, no body can dictate terms and conditions of governance for us anymore. This is what the west doesn’t want for a black man.

floss:
And whose region will pay up the debt Nigeria is borrowing?… what people don’t understand is that you can’t be owing someone rent and pack out to go and live in another place, there must be an agreement before all the loans Nigeria took was granted, that might include every secession attempt be treated as treasonable offence. This is why Nnamdi Kanu is Still under DSS custody.

He would’ve been released if Nigerian govt have no written agreement with a third party( the ones controlling the nation’s economy and giving out loans to every government)
This is why it will be very difficult to release Nnamdi Kanu, it’s not in Tinubu’s power to do so. Not like he cannot release him, he can but that will cost him his government. He will likely be impeached or dealt with, systematically assassinated like how they do to other presidents that doesn’t follow simple order.

Nigeria can never divide, once we’re debt free, no body can dictate terms and conditions of governance for us anymore. This is what the west doesn’t want for a black man.

This does not make sense, a county can still divide with debt.
It's a matter of a round table discussion. It's not working, if it's not then let it go instead destroying everyone

floss:
And whose region will pay up the debt Nigeria is borrowing?… what people don’t understand is that you can’t be owing someone rent and pack out to go and live in another place, there must be an agreement before all the loans Nigeria took was granted, that might include every secession attempt be treated as treasonable offence. This is why Nnamdi Kanu is Still under DSS custody.

He would’ve been released if Nigerian govt have no written agreement with a third party( the ones controlling the nation’s economy and giving out loans to every government)
This is why it will be very difficult to release Nnamdi Kanu, it’s not in Tinubu’s power to do so. Not like he cannot release him, he can but that will cost him his government. He will likely be impeached or dealt with, systematically assassinated like how they do to other presidents that doesn’t follow simple order.

Nigeria can never divide, once we’re debt free, no body can dictate terms and conditions of governance for us anymore. This is what the west doesn’t want for a black man.

The Blackman represented by the majority tribes doesn't want to be free

Trollronaldo:
This does not make sense, a county can still divide with debt.
It's a matter of a round table discussion. It's not working, if it's not then let it go instead destroying everyone

And you think it’s easy and our politicians wouldn’t be clamouring for that?
At least opposition parties would have but they already have the idea that it’s not possible to divide, so to them that discussion is over ruled can’t take place. Take Atiku as a case study, you think he hasn’t considered secession? But he knows it’s not happening, they started this problem together with OBJ from 1999.

It’s not a round table discussion, it’s only through violence it can happen.
Nigeria is likened to an apprentice serving his master diligently while hoping to be free one day, as the years goes by, his settlement drawing closer. Then one day his master’s biggest benefactor tells his master “ I like this your boy, don’t allow him to go, if not I’ll stop patronising you “ what do you think happens next ?

As long as you’re a debtor, you have no voice, just a puppet.

A referendum should have been held on October 1st 1960, rather than independence

floss:
And you think it’s easy and our politicians wouldn’t be clamouring for that?
At least opposition parties would have but they already have the idea that it’s not possible to divide, so to them that discussion is over ruled can’t take place. Take Atiku as a case study, you think he hasn’t considered secession? But he knows it’s not happening, they started this problem together with OBJ from 1999.

It’s not a round table discussion, it’s only through violence it can happen.
Nigeria is likened to an apprentice serving his master diligently while hoping to be free one day, as the years goes by, his settlement drawing closer. Then one day his master’s biggest benefactor tells his master “ I like this your boy, don’t allow him to go, if not I’ll stop patronising you “ what do you think happens next ?

As long as you’re a debtor, you have no voice, just a puppet.

It's easy, we only think like blacks.

Malyasia and Singapore were also owing when they divided. Blacks just reason differently and that's why they don't get things done.

It's not working, that's a fact, it will never work. The next sane step to take is to let it go.

You all are just making it seem too difficult but it's not as difficult as you make it seem.

Trollronaldo:
It's easy, we only think like blacks.

Malyasia and Singapore were also owing when they divided. Blacks just reason differently and that's why they don't get things done.

It's not working, that's a fact, it will never work. The next sane step to take is to let it go.

You have your answer already, we’re blacks and that’s why the west are confident it won’t work, blacks are very selfish, greedy and hates their people. Mind you the west taught blacks and indoctrinated them with wrong ideology so that it will be easier to control them in future.
Before Nigeria’s independence, Nigeria was already owing £17million , so you see that they know what they are doing to the black man. They took the loan on behalf of Nigeria people , that’s how the corruption started

floss:
You have your answer already, we’re blacks and that’s why the west are confident it won’t work, blacks are very selfish, greedy and hates their people. Mind you the west taught blacks and indoctrinated them with wrong ideology so that it will be easier to control them in future.
Before Nigeria’s independence, Nigeria was already owing £17million , so you see that they know what they are doing to the black man. They took the loan on behalf of Nigeria people , that’s how the corruption started

Stop using owing to substantiate Nigeria staying together. That's not a reason to remain together. That's excuse is lame

Trollronaldo:
Stop using owing to substantiate Nigeria staying together. That's not a reason to remain together. That's excuse is lame

And who’s going to endorse the new sovereign nation after secession has taken place?
Is it not the west ?

And you think by all standards, they want it to take place?, they’ll rather continue providing with loans until they finally take over again physically.
They impoverishes every black nation through their loans. If you’re expecting a round table discussion on secession, it won’t happen because even Peter Obi knows this particular truth.

floss:
And who’s going to endorse the new sovereign nation after secession has taken place?
Is it not the west ?

And you think by all standards, they want it to take place?, they’ll rather continue providing with loans until they finally take over again physically.
They impoverishes every black nation through their loans. If you’re expecting a round table discussion on secession, it won’t happen because even Peter Obi knows this particular truth.

All these lame excuses to keep this country that is not working together.

Ivimmanuel:
it's not just the Sahel but a few persons from all these regions who derive benefits from Nigeria what does an average northerner gains if south secedes? Maybe high cost of petrol which is at the extreme already truth is all regions are better of on there on and they'll do better, obviously one Nigeria is a sham but we haven't been properly educated on what we stand to gain or loose from this union because a of a few persons fear of loosing the oil benefits.

Mirrors my sentiments!

The fact of the matter is that things don’t necessarily need to get to the level of disintegration (though that would be my preferred choice)! All that needs to happen for a positive and seismic change in Nigerias’ socio-economic fortunes is for that possibility to be put on the cards as a sovereign national conference in convened! Just the threat of possible dissolution of ‘one Nigeria’ will get everyone thinking straight and not making unreasonable demands from everyone else!

Trollronaldo:
All these lame excuses to keep this country that is not working together.

I’m exposing the truth you’re scared of accepting… you know it deep down that Nigeria dividing won’t happen through gentleman round table discussion…
Stop being petty with the truth, violence sometimes might be the best approach to an end.
I love to see Nigeria work but if it’s not working, better off divide but as a realist, all I said previously are blocks to why secession will be difficult.

Trollronaldo:
All these lame excuses to keep this country that is not working together.

So what’s still stopping Nigeria from dividing since I’m making lame excuse, I’m open to learning , let me see the best approach you have to why the division hasn’t taken place yet?

South sudan seperated, Eritea seperated, how is it going. We are not Singapore or Malaysia