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Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by GBTYO(op): 7:48pm On Oct 14, 2024
Of late I have been seeing a flood of useless topics promoting Nigeria's breakup as inevitable.

A quick glance will tell you that all the posters making these threads are of the IPOB ilk.

It's not surprising to see IPOB promoting outright balkanization of Nigeria instead of pursuing their seccesionist agenda.

The likes of Gidgiddy has become more of an advocate for Nigeria's dissolution than his usual Biafra quest.

The reasons for this is simple and it's because it is becoming clearer to these IPOB people that their Biafra project that must include all of the SS will never happen because a Biafra without the SS included can not be sold to the general Ibo populace. They need the SS for its lands and resources to market Biafra 2.0 to their fellow ibos. And when you review how Biafra of old died a natural death after the liberation of the minority coastal and SS lands, you will understand what I am trying to convey here. The likes of gidgiddy have come to see that for there to be a new Biafra project it MUST[emphasis intended] include the adjourning SS lands. But knowing very well that this won't ever happen under a united Nigeria, they are now seeing this new Biafra only with a balkanized Nigeria.

It's important you understand the last sentence clearly because it gives a clue to how they intend Biafra 2.0 . Biafra 2.0 will be like the first and will not require consultation but will be based on conquest. A divided Nigeria (and weakened one) provides the perfect scenario to stage another invasion , conquest and genocide of the SS minority peoples.

This here is why they are all clamouring for Nigeria's breakup.

But that aside, if we are to hypothetically see Nigeria breakup to its existing constituent geopolitical zones, which of these new independent states can survive beyond five years without plunging into total chaos?

Let me start by given my prediction and reasons:

1. Arewa
Present day NW Nigeria will struggle to stand on its feet but will sooner or later find some political working ground. These are a people with centuries of indigenous self governance that spanned large swaths of northern Nigeria. Strong Leadership and governance and a collective society based on conservative Islam will usher in law and order. They may not be all prosperous as under Nigeria but they will surely exist long beyond our 5yr target.

2. Kanuri land

Just like Arewa above but there will be conflicts arising due to treatment of non Muslims and other minorities. But at the end they too will find their feet.

3. North Central

By far the most diverse ethnic and religious region , I don't see the NC being an independent nation of its own rather I see some parts being included into the NW while some existing states like Taraba and Benue being seperate. Benue will have the greatest headache owing to a lot of challenges we are witnessing already under Nigeria and I don't see them overcoming it as an independent nation rather things will get worse and Benue may end up being a UN administered territory reliant on international relief and aid from everything from food , medicine down to its own security.

4. SW
Oduduwa

Economically they will be better of. Politically it will be bedlam unless a rallying figure like Awo appears. Stability will then ensue and they will surely exceed the five year prediction.

5. SS

Niger Delta Republic.

The future of this nation will be dependent on the system of governance they choose for themselves . A parliamentary regional system will be the best option. That is, a loose federation with a weak central govt. The major challenge will be if all the proud nationalities in the SS agree to remain as one or go their seperate ways. They will surely go beyond the first 50ys if all comes together well from the point of formation as it will be the only true Republic formed from different nationalities agreeing to their own terms to live together as one.

6. SE

Biafra

Heard of Autonomous Kingdoms ? Well it's only in the SE you will find out what they are and what they mean. The factionalized nature of the Ibo man will always see to Ibo society fragmenting. It will be very difficult for whoever is in Enugu to rally everyone together as there will be several opposition from every corner on who rules from Enugu. The only system that will be adequate for this region will be a powerful centrist system (preferably a dictatorship ) or else it will breakup into tiny pieces before one year of its formation.
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by Okadarider: 7:54pm On Oct 14, 2024
The problem with people like is very simple,
you only see things from your own perspective and believe every other person share same too bad.
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by AfonjajaOpobo: 7:55pm On Oct 14, 2024
Afonjahs will be first of the southerners to devour each other from hunger. Why?

1. No more Igbos to patronize their ports, inflated properties and financial/government institutions

2. No more Igbo businesses to tax and extort

3. They are lazy as a people. No output. Always looking for fast wealth.

4. They produce nothing. No indigenous Afonjah industries.

5. No natural resources. No oil & gas. Nothing.

6. No innovation like Igbos

7. Zero agriculture like Abokis

8. Monarchy. They love being led by their fellow man which spells doom in a capitalist world since their kings will exploit the masses.

9. Low standards of living. Because they naturally don't like living in good conditions, their nation will decay in less than 2 generations.

10. Skull mining. This will deplete the youth population and render them extinct by 2050.
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by Runaway: 7:56pm On Oct 14, 2024
Can't this wicked people just leave us alone?
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by Toneypen247(m): 8:03pm On Oct 14, 2024
Let the sleeping dog lie. Everyone will be fine. Leadership and not tribe is our problem.
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by Ojiofor: 8:05pm On Oct 14, 2024
GBTYO:
Of late I have been seeing a flood of useless topics promoting Nigeria's breakup as inevitable.

A quick glance will tell you that all the posters making these threads are of the IPOB ilk.

It's not surprising to see IPOB promoting outright balkanization of Nigeria instead of pursuing their seccesionist agenda.

The likes of Gidgiddy has become more of an advocate for Nigeria's dissolution than his usual Biafra quest.

The reasons for this is simple and it's because it is becoming clearer to these IPOB people that their Biafra project that must include all of the SS will never happen because a Biafra without the SS included can not be sold to the general Ibo populace. They need the SS for its lands and resources to market Biafra 2.0 to their fellow ibos. And when you review how Biafra of old died a natural death after the liberation of the minority coastal and SS lands, you will understand what I am trying to convey here. The likes of gidgiddy have come to see that for there to be a new Biafra project it MUST[emphasis intended] include the adjourning SS lands. But knowing very well that this won't ever happen under a united Nigeria, they are now seeing this new Biafra only with a balkanized Nigeria.

It's important you understand the last sentence clearly because it gives a clue to how they intend Biafra 2.0 . Biafra 2.0 will be like the first and will not require consultation but will be based on conquest. A divided Nigeria (and weakened one) provides the perfect scenario to stage another invasion , conquest and genocide of the SS minority peoples.

This here is why they are all clamouring for Nigeria's breakup.

But that aside, if we are to hypothetically see Nigeria breakup to its existing constituent geopolitical zones, which of these new independent states can survive beyond five years without plunging into total chaos?

Let me start by given my prediction and reasons:

1. Arewa
Present day NW Nigeria will struggle to stand on its feet but will sooner or later find some political working ground. These are a people with centuries of indigenous self governance that spanned large swaths of northern Nigeria. Strong Leadership and governance and a collective society based on conservative Islam will usher in law and order. They may not be all prosperous as under Nigeria but they will surely exist long beyond our 5yr target.

2. Kanuri land

Just like Arewa above but there will be conflicts arising due to treatment of non Muslims and other minorities. But at the end they too will find their feet.

3. North Central

By far the most diverse ethnic and religious region , I don't see the NC being an independent nation of its own rather I see some parts being included into the NW while some existing states like Taraba and Benue being seperate. Benue will have the greatest headache owing to a lot of challenges we are witnessing already under Nigeria and I don't see them overcoming it as an independent nation rather things will get worse and Benue may end up being a UN administered territory reliant on international relief and aid from everything from food , medicine down to its own security.

4. SW
Oduduwa

Economically they will be better of. Politically it will be bedlam unless a rallying figure like Awo appears. Stability will then ensue and they will surely exceed the five year prediction.

5. SS

Niger Delta Republic.

The future of this nation will be dependent on the system of governance they choose for themselves . A parliamentary regional system will be the best option. That is, a loose federation with a weak central govt. The major challenge will be if all the proud nationalities in the SS agree to remain as one or go their seperate ways. They will surely go beyond the first 50ys if all comes together well from the point of formation as it will be the only true Republic formed from different nationalities agreeing to their own terms to live together as one.

6. SE

Biafra

Heard of Autonomous Kingdoms ? Well it's only in the SE you will find out what they are and what they mean. The factionalized nature of the Ibo man will always see to Ibo society fragmenting. It will be very difficult for whoever is in Enugu to rally everyone together as there will be several opposition from every corner on who rules from Enugu. The only system that will be adequate for this region will be a powerful centrist system (preferably a dictatorship ) or else it will breakup into tiny pieces before one year of its formation.
During regional government it was Yoruba in the West killing each other that eventually ended the 1st republic while the East was generally peacefully until the start of Biafra civil war.I do not know where you got the idea we can't govern ourselves.
Ndi Igbo was loyal to their leaders throughout the 1st republic while Awo and Akintola was at each other throat leading to chaos and anarchy that had Awo put to jail for treason for 10 good years.Now tell me who proved to be ungovernable.
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by vanbonattel:
You are so wrong about SE, 2023 elections proved you wrong.
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by ElSudani: 8:23pm On Oct 14, 2024
Ojiofor:
During regional government it was Yoruba in the West killing each other that eventually ended the 1st republic while the East was generally peacefully until the start of Biafra civil war.I do not know where you got the idea we can't govern ourselves.
Ndi Igbo was loyal to their leaders throughout the 1st republic while Awo and Akintola was at each other throat leading to chaos and anarchy that had Awo put to jail for treason for 10 good years.Now tell me who proved to be ungovernable.
Nzeogwu coup ended the first republic. Enough for these blatant and dishonest revisionism.
Not even Nzeogwu per se but the power hungry Ironsi who couldn't resist the allure of power even after Nzeogwu's coup had been crushed.
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by vanbonattel: 8:29pm On Oct 14, 2024
ElSudani:
Nzeogwu coup ended the first republic. Enough for these blatant and dishonest revisionism.
He didn't end it because there was problems in the east, he ended it because the Yoruba side was decimating each other, and the Western Region was going up in flames, while the prime minister encouraged the fight by taking sides with Akintola.
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by vanbonattel: 8:32pm On Oct 14, 2024
The whole of the Igbo nation has never had any problems with each other from the beginning of history. From colonial records, to this present day. Igbis had always voted together on any matter of importance, or election. We give block votes, others are learning unity from the igbos.

A country made up of Igbos alone will be super peaceful because the whole of them has one pokitical ideology, one destination, one value system and one religion.

About igbos uniting under one authority, ask 2023 election figures, no Igbo man can talk when Obi talks, apart from the politicians that are paid, or fighting for their own selfish political interests. There were less than 10 of them throughout the igbo nation of over 45 million people.
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by miiraaj: 8:36pm On Oct 14, 2024
AfonjajaOpobo:
Afonjahs will be first of the southerners to devour each other from hunger. Why?

1. No more Igbos to patronize their ports, inflated properties and financial/government institutions

2. No more Igbo businesses to tax and extort

3. They are lazy as a people. No output. Always looking for fast wealth.

4. They produce nothing. No indigenous Afonjah industries.

5. No natural resources. No oil & gas. Nothing.

6. No innovation like Igbos

7. Zero agriculture like Abokis

8. Monarchy. They love being led by their fellow man which spells doom in a capitalist world since their kings will exploit the masses.

9. Low standards of living. Because they naturally don't like living in good conditions, their nation will decay in less than 2 generations.

10. Skull mining. This will deplete the youth population and render them extinct by 2050.
This your no.10 na wah oooo! cheesy
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by RealityKings: 8:43pm On Oct 14, 2024
These a ddumb comparison
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by LOVEALAIGBO: 8:49pm On Oct 14, 2024
Ain’t it funny that the ‘one Nigerianist’ likes of the OP are quick to try and dissuade people from choosing the secession option and paints a pessimistic view of a post disintegrated Nigeria, but he is YET to sell ‘one Nigeria’ to us and tell us why he thinks it’s the only ‘viable’ option with a optimistic outlook!?
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by ElSudani: 8:51pm On Oct 14, 2024
vanbonattel:
He didn't end it because there was problems in the east, he ended it because the Yoruba side was decimating each other, and the Western Region was going up in flames, while the prime minister encouraged the fight by taking sides with Akintola.
And the Yoruba held a meeting with him where they asked him to topple the democratically elected government?
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by vanbonattel: 8:54pm On Oct 14, 2024
ElSudani:
And the Yoruba held a meeting with him where they asked him to topple the democratically elected government?
Awolowo was imprisoned in the east, he could have persuaded them to save the country.
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by Fortruth: 8:57pm On Oct 14, 2024
AfonjajaOpobo:
Afonjahs will be first of the southerners to devour each other from hunger. Why?

1. No more Igbos to patronize their ports, inflated properties and financial/government institutions

2. No more Igbo businesses to tax and extort

3. They are lazy as a people. No output. Always looking for fast wealth.

4. They produce nothing. No indigenous Afonjah industries.

5. No natural resources. No oil & gas. Nothing.

6. No innovation like Igbos

7. Zero agriculture like Abokis

8. Monarchy. They love being led by their fellow man which spells doom in a capitalist world since their kings will exploit the masses.

9. Low standards of living. Because they naturally don't like living in good conditions, their nation will decay in less than 2 generations.

10. Skull mining. This will deplete the youth population and render them extinct by 2050.
OMO
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by ElSudani: 8:58pm On Oct 14, 2024
vanbonattel:
Awolowo was imprisoned in the east, he could have persuaded them to save the country.
"He could have" is that a statement of fact or something from your fertile imagination?
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by AfonjajaOpobo: 9:00pm On Oct 14, 2024
miiraaj:
This your no.10 na wah oooo! cheesy
Research proves it
They are mining skulls at an annual rate of 2.3%
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by Ojiofor: 9:10pm On Oct 14, 2024
ElSudani:
Nzeogwu coup ended the first republic. Enough for these blatant and dishonest revisionism.
Not even Nzeogwu per se but the power hungry Ironsi who couldn't resist the allure of power even after Nzeogwu's coup had been crushed.
Without the anarchy in the West the coup plotters wouldn't have any reason to intervene.
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by ElSudani: 9:14pm On Oct 14, 2024
Ojiofor:
Without the anarchy in the West the coup plotters wouldn't have any reason to intervene.
Right, I bet your heard this from Ifeajuna himself.
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by Ojiofor: 9:39pm On Oct 14, 2024
ElSudani:
Right, I bet your heard this from Ifeajuna himself.
ElSudani you know what I am talking about to be true.
Na our yeye boys wey dey carry Naija problem for head I blame for that silly intervetion.Them for allow Awo and Akintola delete each other.
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by Fortruth: 10:09pm On Oct 14, 2024
ElSudani:
Nzeogwu coup ended the first republic. Enough for these blatant and dishonest revisionism.
Not even Nzeogwu per se but the power hungry Ironsi who couldn't resist the allure of power even after Nzeogwu's coup had been crushed.
NIGGa what history books are you (NOT) reading LOL.

Ironsi allure of power?

LOL..

Black NIGGAS.. LOL
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by wiseone28: 10:50pm On Oct 14, 2024
AfonjajaOpobo:
Afonjahs will be first of the southerners to devour each other from hunger. Why?

1. No more Igbos to patronize their ports, inflated properties and financial/government institutions

2. No more Igbo businesses to tax and extort

3. They are lazy as a people. No output. Always looking for fast wealth.

4. They produce nothing. No indigenous Afonjah industries.

5. No natural resources. No oil & gas. Nothing.

6. No innovation like Igbos

7. Zero agriculture like Abokis

8. Monarchy. They love being led by their fellow man which spells doom in a capitalist world since their kings will exploit the masses.

9. Low standards of living. Because they naturally don't like living in good conditions, their nation will decay in less than 2 generations.

10. Skull mining. This will deplete the youth population and render them extinct by 2050.
Hahaha check out number 10 😂😂😂


Omooba05
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by ottersberger(m):
wiseone28:
Hahaha check out number 10 😂😂😂


Omooba05
Abi no be true?.

No day goes without reports about a skull or two mined in Ogun, Ondo or Oyo states?.
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by ElSudani:
Fortruth:
NIGGa what history books are you (NOT) reading LOL.

Ironsi allure of power?

LOL..

Black NIGGAS.. LOL
Someone reading this might be tempted to think you actually know anything about what is being discussed.
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by banom(m): 12:25am On Oct 15, 2024
AfonjajaOpobo:
Afonjahs will be first of the southerners to devour each other from hunger. Why?

1. No more Igbos to patronize their ports, inflated properties and financial/government institutions

2. No more Igbo businesses to tax and extort

3. They are lazy as a people. No output. Always looking for fast wealth.

4. They produce nothing. No indigenous Afonjah industries.

5. No natural resources. No oil & gas. Nothing.

6. No innovation like Igbos

7. Zero agriculture like Abokis

8. Monarchy. They love being led by their fellow man which spells doom in a capitalist world since their kings will exploit the masses.

9. Low standards of living. Because they naturally don't like living in good conditions, their nation will decay in less than 2 generations.

10. Skull mining. This will deplete the youth population and render them extinct by 2050.
Nwa nne my belle don burst as I dey go through this your list... funny enough the list is highly plausible. 😂😂😂
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by gidgiddy: 5:07am On Oct 15, 2024
If everyone survived when there was no Nigeria

If everyone survived before the British came from Europe to ambush all of us into their disastrously failed colonial experiment called Nigeria

Then everyone will survive when there is no Nigeria, infact, everyone will do much better without Nigeria
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by overall90: 5:26am On Oct 15, 2024
I didn't know when Igboho became IPOB because as we speak he is the one in London submitting letters to the British and demonstrating in London for an Oduduwa nation.
All I could see from this foolish op is fear but he as usual he has to project it on others.
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by arantess: 8:15am On Oct 15, 2024
Toneypen247:
Let the sleeping dog lie. Everyone will be fine. Leadership and not tribe is our problem.
Everyone will be fine by sitting on the hands abi....
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by wiseone28: 9:11am On Oct 15, 2024
ottersberger:
Abi no be true?.

Which day goes without reports about a skull or two mined in Ogun, Ondo or Oyo states?.
I wanted one of them to confirm their lucrative business 😁
Re: Which Regions Can Survive Beyond 5ys Of Nigeria's Dissolution by overall90: 11:43am On Oct 15, 2024
AfonjajaOpobo:
Afonjahs will be first of the southerners to devour each other from hunger. Why?

1. No more Igbos to patronize their ports, inflated properties and financial/government institutions

2. No more Igbo businesses to tax and extort

3. They are lazy as a people. No output. Always looking for fast wealth.

4. They produce nothing. No indigenous Afonjah industries.

5. No natural resources. No oil & gas. Nothing.

6. No innovation like Igbos

7. Zero agriculture like Abokis

8. Monarchy. They love being led by their fellow man which spells doom in a capitalist world since their kings will exploit the masses.

9. Low standards of living. Because they naturally don't like living in good conditions, their nation will decay in less than 2 generations.

10. Skull mining. This will deplete the youth population and render them extinct by 2050.
In addition they will resume their internecine wars,all the Kiriji and the Ekiti parapo wars we read in history, they will become very poor and weak and coupled with cowardice which will make it easier for Fulani to finish them off.
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