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stuffs2002:
If only you could read.

Read wetin no get head nor tail

iamtoofan:
in a clear response;
1. considering landing cos are we still paying subsidy or not

2. So far have we stop borrowing

Answers those two sincerely and let see how you will come out not looking stupid

NO WE ARE NO LONGER BORROWING 10 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR TO PAY SUBSIDIES.

stuffs2002:
Abeg getat. Was Kperogi criticizing with logic?

Do not let your hatred for Tinubu blind you from logic. You people allowed your hatred for Buhari to blind you and you started hating Nigeria and formed all sorts of attack groups against the country. Now Buhari has gone but those hate groups are still functioning. Same way Tinubu will leave but your hatred will remain.

bro, I am a Yoruba and I am being factual here...

Rossikk:
Stop giving us a stupid, irrelevant essay.

The Nigerian reforms are similar to the Chinese reforms in the way they are designed to foster SELF-SUFFICIENCY.

First start: STOP BORROWING 10 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR TO PAY FUEL SUBSIDIES.

INDIGENISATION POLICIES WHICH PROMOTE LESS DEPENDENCE ON THE DOLLAR, TO SHORE UP YOUR LOCAL CURRENCY, WHILE CURBING IMPORTS BY CREATING BUSINESS-FRIENDLY POLICIES AND AN ENABLING ENVIRONMENT FOR INVESTORS.

THIS IS WHAT NIGERIA IS DOING.

CHINA WENT MUCH FURTHER BY outright BANNING of many imports, including vehicles etc, and imposing high tariffs on imported goods.

This made life VERY HARD for the average Chinese.

But today they are very prosperous because of those policies, which lasted decades.

You are a BIG IGNORANT FOOL!

Didn't I tell you not to compare yourself with China? What kind of reforms are you doing that you cannot get your 4 refineries to refine fuel for local consumption and you keep importing fuel while mouthing subsidy. Is fuel refining a rocket science? After sinking billions of dollars to maintain refineries and they fail to work, is that not willful sabotage? Meanwhile local boys can easily 'cook' out diesel from crude oil in the bush but the government commits billions and cannot do it.

In the case of Dangote refinery, you claim there's no crude oil to supply it but many of the oil wells in Nigeria today are capped and designated as reserve. I can tell you many locations of dormant oil wells in Nigeria today and nobody is doing anything with the crude oil there.

olaniyilukman:
bro, I am a Yoruba and I am being factual here...

''I am Yoruba but'' is basically another name for betrayer, backstabber, Judas, enemy within etc


BTW, I am not Yoruba

Bintasukai:
While I support Tinubu and think that the World Bank is more interested in Europe than Africa in terms of development. Your generalization and simplification is not a credible argument. Tell us why Kperogis statements are wrong. Don’t just say because he supported Atiku. Otherwise, it means you are assuming we are all stupid and anything you say must be accepted whether it provides sufficient defense of Tinubu or not.

I take God beg you. Go back and read the post by Kperogi and tell us what manner of economic analysis will make an analyst call someone "soulless, blood-sucking vampire"?

How can you claim you are objective when you use such despicable adjectives to describe another human being?

Those Agberos Motor Park Supporters of Tinubu will Claim that Tinubu is a Chicago-trained Accountant with no brain to put into practice

Topman7:
MR MAN, THERE IS NOTHING THE WORLD BANK IS TELLING US TO DO WHICH WE WOULD NOT HAVE DONE ANYWAY!

That 10 billion dollar a year we were BORROWING to pay subsidies, it was not the IMF or World Bank that said 'stop it'. It was BUHARI who saw that it was BANKRUPTING THE NATION, and put a halt to it. Omitting it in the budget he handed to Tinubu.

The TRUTH is that Nigeria was living on BORROWED MONEY FOR FUEL SUBSIDIES.

And as the population grew, you required MORE MONEY FOR SUBSIDIES.

How the hell is that sustainable?

Continuing with the subsidies would have meant we would have become like Zimbabwe or Venezuela, or Sri Lanka , where the economies totally crashed, and went bankrupt, because their debts overwhelmed them and nobody would lend them any more money.

IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?

Because if you think things are hard now, THAT would make it 10 times worse.

You just sound like a government paid propagandist. The reason why you were paying subsidies was it not because your refineries were sabotaged not to work even after putting in billions of dollars?

Is it not rational to address that FAILURE first before removing subsidy or After removing subsidy? But NO. Even Dangote private refinery is starved of crude oil by the government so as not to work. Can't you see the conspiracy there? This is an international conspiracy facilitated by Nigerian government collaborators to make nigeria fuel import dependent Country and thus ENSURE THAT THE OIL WEALTH IS LIQUIDATED BY THE COALITION OF INTERNATIONAL AND LOCAL COLLABORATORS.

Rossikk:
NO WE ARE NO LONGER BORROWING 10 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR TO PAY SUBSIDIES.

Have we stop borrowing in any form ??
can you swear with life subsidy has stopped ??

How do you justify the current unknown subsidy amount is relieving to the $10 billion you know we were paying for subsidy before

Between budget subsidy and unbudgeted subsidy which is a beta haven for corruption

may thunder that will strike Tinubu/ Apc apologist charge full pass isreal airstrike

stuffs2002:
Kperogi has come again with his upside down analysis

Kperogi is an Atiku man who is still pained that Bola Ahmed Tinubu trashed his principal in the last presidential elections.
Kperogi has been attacking Nigerian government just because he hates the president. Kperogi is no different from 0BIDIENTS who have been tearing the country down just because their principal lost the
presidential elections. Why cut nose face to spite your face. Both Atiku and Obi are still alive healthy and can contest in the next presidential elections. I wonder what country they would be contesting if we destroy Nigeria.

Shut up paid idi't. Animal in human skin

stuffs2002:
Kperogi has come again with his upside down analysis

Kperogi is an Atiku man who is still pained that Bola Ahmed Tinubu trashed his principal in the last presidential elections.
Kperogi has been attacking Nigerian government just because he hates the president. Kperogi is no different from 0BIDIENTS who have been tearing the country down just because their principal lost the presidential elections. Why cut nose face to spite your face. Both Atiku and Obi are still alive healthy and can contest in the next presidential elections. I wonder what country they would be contesting if we destroy Nigeria.

Shameless propagandist. Why did you remove the 'free' from your username? Ufeke.

holocron:
You are a BIG IGNORANT FOOL!

Didn't I tell you not to compare yourself with China? What kind of reforms are you doing that you cannot get your 4 refineries to refine fuel for local consumption and you keep importing fuel while mouthing subsidy. Is fuel refining a rocket science?

Can somebody tell this lunatic that Nigeria has virtually stopped the importation of fuel owing to the existence of the Dangote refinery?

What kind of mumu is this that is stuck in 2021?

Better follow the news. Ode.

After sinking billions of dollars to maintain refineries and they fail to work, is that not willful sabotage?

STFU. The refineries are coming on stream. The PH one is virtually ready to go, while the Warri refinery is 95% ready.

In the case of Dangote refinery, you claim there's no crude oil to supply it but many of the oil wells in Nigeria today are capped and designated as reserve. I can tell you many locations of dormant oil wells in Nigeria today and nobody is doing anything with the crude oil there.

What is this oaf talking about?

Where did I claim there was no crude oil to supply Dangote?

By the way, that a place is designated as an oil well does not mean ANYTHING.

Before you can do anything with it, the oil prospecting firm or oil major must first ascertain its economic viability as far as relates to access, quantity, cost of production, profit potential, and even the Production Sharing Agreement it reaches with the govt etc.

It’s far more complicated than “Oh that’s an oil well, so let’s go get oil there!”

stuffs2002:
Kperogi has come again with his upside down analysis

Kperogi is an Atiku man who is still pained that Bola Ahmed Tinubu trashed his principal in the last presidential elections.
Kperogi has been attacking Nigerian government just because he hates the president. Kperogi is no different from 0BIDIENTS who have been tearing the country down just because their principal lost the presidential elections. Why cut nose face to spite your face. Both Atiku and Obi are still alive healthy and can contest in the next presidential elections. I wonder what country they would be contesting if we destroy Nigeria.

You left the subject matter to talk about Atiku and Obi. What is the link here. Nawa for you. You get problem walahi !!!!

FatimaAbubakar:
Shameless propagandist. Why did you remove the 'free' from your username? Ufeke.

Desist from insulting me. You are not the first to accuse me of being who I am not.

That I do not share same views as others does not give them the right to insult me or accuse me unjustly

stuffs2002:
Kperogi has come again with his upside down analysis

Kperogi is an Atiku man who is still pained that Bola Ahmed Tinubu trashed his principal in the last presidential elections.
Kperogi has been attacking Nigerian government just because he hates the president. Kperogi is no different from 0BIDIENTS who have been tearing the country down just because their principal lost the presidential elections. Why cut nose face to spite your face. Both Atiku and Obi are still alive healthy and can contest in the next presidential elections. I wonder what country they would be contesting if we destroy Nigeria.

Just read what you wrote up there again, but this time, do so gently and slowly.

What does his personality, political affiliation or bias got to do with what he said?

Must he be a pro-Tinubu or APC before he could have a say on what affects his country of birth and its people?

Are you immune to the after-effects of all these world bank and IMF induced reforms or you're not just smart enough to comprehend stuffs?

At this stage of your life and the current state of affairs in the country, should anyone still be seen thinking of reasoning like your thoughts suggests up there?

Are you just saying this for clout chasing or this is your real self?

Elibaba1:
You left the subject matter to talk about Atiku and Obi. What is the link here. Nawa for you. You get problem walahi !!!!

Ade3131:
Just read what you wrote up there again, but this time, do so gently and slowly.

What does his personality, political affiliation or bias got to do with what he said?

Must he be a pro-Tinubu or APC before he could have a say on what affects his country of birth and its people?

Are you immune to the after-effects of all these world bank and IMF induced reforms or you're not just smart enough to comprehend stuffs?

At this stage of your life and the current state of affairs in the country, should anyone still be seen thinking of reasoning like your thoughts suggests up there?

Are you just saying this for clout chasing or this is your real self?

If only you had a semblance of intelligence, you would realise that the main objective of the entire post was not about Nigeria but to attack the person of Tinubu. Tinubu is an individual and you may attack his person all you want but I will not sit idly and watch you or anyone try to rub Nigeria in the mud just because Tinubu defeated your principal in the last presidential elections. Nigeria is greater than Tinubu or any other person so learn to know the difference.

stuffs2002:
Before the do anything to Tinubu the Pandora criminal called Obi Pandora would have been buried long ago

did obi forfeit his 460,000 US dollars in America over drug?did obi attend any school 1970 while the school was built in 1974,we can see obi's school mates

Ykc2:
did obi forfeit his 460,000 US dollars in America over drug?did obi attend any school 1970 while the school was built in 1974,we can see obi's school mates

Abeg getat.

same Obi that was caught in a scandalous manner stealing over N250 million in suite cases every month while he was the governor of Anambra.
Same criminal Obi that was exposed by the Pandora papers
Same thief called Obi that stole Anambra money and used it to build brewery in hid family name

Same Obi that was waging a religious war on the Muslim population during campaign last year

Peter Obi will never be president of Nigeria

stuffs2002:
Kperogi has come again with his upside down analysis

Kperogi is an Atiku man who is still pained that Bola Ahmed Tinubu trashed his principal in the last presidential elections.
Kperogi has been attacking Nigerian government just because he hates the president. Kperogi is no different from 0BIDIENTS who have been tearing the country down just because their principal lost the presidential elections. Why cut nose face to spite your face. Both Atiku and Obi are still alive healthy and can contest in the next presidential elections. I wonder what country they would be contesting if we destroy Nigeria.

Always talking like a lunatic. Anyway, social media will be boring without ediots like you.

stuffs2002:
If only you had a semblance of intelligence, you would realise that the main objective of the entire post was not about Nigeria but to attack the person of Tinubu. Tinubu is an individual and you may attack his person all you want but I will not sit idly and watch you or anyone try to rub Nigeria in the mud just because Tinubu defeated your principal in the last presidential elections. Nigeria is greater than Tinubu or any other person so learn to know the difference.

So because Nigeria is greater than Tinubu and all of us, including yourself, we should not criticise bad policies when we see and feel it effects?

Also, do you think we're all partisans like you?

Must you always look at everything from the lens of partisanship?

Grow up sir! The world has moved on past that Peter Obi Vs Tinubu thing. It's stale already.

The talk we're discussing at the moment is about the world bank and IMF induced reforms or policies that is socking lives out of Nigerians. You can't tell me you're not feeling it in any shape or form. If you're not, your extended family members are.

And my point remains that Farooq Kperogi, like every other Nigerian, has every right to criticise the government and its policies irrespective of their political affiliations or bias.

Let that sink!

stuffs2002:
You must be talking about a different China that no one knows about. No country in this planet that the development grew exponentially in a few years. Your hatred for your president is making you see things that are not real.

china grew double digits for a decade. If that isn't exponential, then what is?

stuffs2002:
Abeg getat.

same Obi that was caught in a scandalous manner stealing over N250 million in suite cases every month while he was the governor of Anambra.
Same criminal Obi that was exposed by the Pandora papers
Same thief called Obi that stole Anambra money and used it to build brewery in hid family name

Same Obi that was waging a religious war on the Muslim population during campaign last year

Peter Obi will never be president of Nigeria

I don't care so long yoruba people are not cooking with meat or fish am happy

If Tinubu continues with World bank and IMF policy it will be impossible for him to win 2027 whether by hook or crook. That is if Nigeria survives till end of 2025 cause I personally no longer feel safe among the people even when I'm not a political office holder. People can no longer eat and feed their families

stuffs2002:
Kperogi has come again with his upside down analysis

Kperogi is an Atiku man who is still pained that Bola Ahmed Tinubu trashed his principal in the last presidential elections.
Kperogi has been attacking Nigerian government just because he hates the president. Kperogi is no different from 0BIDIENTS who have been tearing the country down just because their principal lost the presidential elections. Why cut nose face to spite your face. Both Atiku and Obi are still alive healthy and can contest in the next presidential elections. I wonder what country they would be contesting if we destroy Nigeria.

The usual deceptive strategy, leave the message or the issues raised, attack the messenger in order to hoodwink the audience.

stuffs2002:
Stop being so bittered that it blocks all forms of logic from your brain. You think you are attacking Tinubu by wanting Nigeria to fail. What sort of warped logic is that? Nigeria is bigger than Tinubu or any other person. So because reforms will take a long time, Nigeria should keep towing the wrong path?


Some of the reforms that Tinubu put in place as governor in Lagos state came into fruition long after Tinubu was no longer the governor of the state

The Chinese reforms started long before this current leader of China. Same can be said for all emerging economies all over the globe. Do you realize that there was a time Nigerians didn't need visas to so many countries?

Whoever told you that US, France UK, and other western countries were built in a day did you wrong.

You are a lost soul. Our economy has become a mess because of his destructive policies. Do you even have an idea of what is happening to our economy and the citizens right now?
Rice is now 95k, petrol is above 1k including NNPC stations. The prices of goods climb up everyday. Naira is almost 2k to 1 dollar and still falling . Policy that will benefit people wouldn't make their lives miserable.

stuffs2002:
Hatred and bigotry have blinded you.

there's no bigotry anywhr. Lagos was the FCT for almost 100yrs, what do you expect?

stuffs2002:
This one is still bittered that Nigerians trashed Peter Obi in the last presidential elections.

Let me tell you the plain truth. Peter Obi will never be president because he is not a presidential material and it is that simple. Obi is not fit to rule a country like Nigeria

you're the one bringing Obi into your equation. When you lack sound argument, you resort to deviating.

BABAawoo47:
china grew double digits for a decade. If that isn't exponential, then what is?

Either you are deliberately telling lies or your understanding of English Language is whack
China did not in grow double digits in the beginning.

[quote author=stuffs2002 post=132492604]Kperogi has come again with his upside down analysis

Kperogi is an Atiku man who is still pained that Bola Ahmed Tinubu trashed his principal in the last presidential elections.
Kperogi has been attacking Nigerian government just because he hates the president. Kperogi is no different from 0BIDIENTS who have been tearing the country down just because their principal lost the presidential elections. Why cut nose face to spite your face. Both Atiku and Obi are still alive healthy and can contest in the next presidential elections. I wonder what country they would be contesting if we destroy Nigeria.

STFU!!!...and continue quietly nursing your HUNGER.
FYI, urgent 2k is drying up, meaning that sorry is your name if you continue in this trajectory.

stuffs2002:
Kperogi has come again with his upside down analysis

Kperogi is an Atiku man who is still pained that Bola Ahmed Tinubu trashed his principal in the last presidential elections.
Kperogi has been attacking Nigerian government just because he hates the president. Kperogi is no different from 0BIDIENTS who have been tearing the country down just because their principal lost the presidential elections. Why cut nose face to spite your face. Both Atiku and Obi are still alive healthy and can contest in the next presidential elections. I wonder what country they would be contesting if we destroy Nigeria.

You call that charade an election?