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Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Brendaniel: 7:50pm On Oct 23, 2024
Image123:
Nnamdi Azikiwe Is Why Biafra Has No Legal Right To Secede

The recent comments by Peter Obi labelling former Head of State, General Gowon, as an 'enemy' to be 'forgiven' has emboldened many of his closet IPOB supporters who now wear the tag Obidients (which in reality is the political arm of the Indigenous People of Biafra movement) to revise history and make fallacious and salacious claims.

One such claim was made by a certain Onyekwelu, who asserts that Biafra has a legal claim to secede and is being extrajudicially held back in Nigeria by domestic and international powers, especially the British government.

The idea for a secession clause was mooted by Chief Obafemi Awolowo in 1954 during the Lagos Constitutional Conference, but Nnamdi Azikiwe rejected it and galvanised a majority of the conference attendees to kill the idea.

Nnamdi Azikiwe himself wrote about this in an essay published by the New Nigerian Newspapers in 1975. It has since been republished by other papers and by Mr Azikiwe himself.

For the benefit of those who have been misled by the likes of Peter Obi and their fellow fantasists, I will now republish Mr. Nnamdi Azikiwe's essay.

'My opposition to secession

By Nnamdi Azikiwe

When the 1954 constitution conference started, my good friend, Chief Obafemi Awolowo tabled a motion to the effect that in the new constitution, provision should be made that any state which feels like seceding should do so. I was opposed to it and said ‘no’ and said that once we have a federation, we are indivisible and perpetual.

So a full day was given to Chief Awolowo to make his points. He spoke brilliantly as a lawyer. He made his points why secession should be incorporated in the Constitution. He cited the case of the Soviet Union which is a federation, and that secession is written there so that any state in the Soviet Union can secede at will. He also cited the case of Western Australia and eventually he finished his case and was applauded.

Lord Chandos said that on the face of the arguments before him it would be suicidal to incorporate secession in our constitution and that is why we have section 86 in our constitution that if any region or state should secede, then it will be an act of treason.

We adjourned. The next day, I had to reply. I availed myself of the opportunity to, well, demolish the arguments of my friend and I cited the case of United States which based its constitution on that of the Swiss Confederation. That is Switzerland. I pointed out a case, I think, that of Texas versus White, where Mr. Salmon Chase, the Chief Justice laid down the principle – he was really an arbiter – that the union was intended to be perpetual and indivisible and that any attempt to divide the union by secession was treasonable.

The North (NPC) supported Action Group. The question was then: Should we have secession? The Colonial Office came to our rescue. You know, the usual principle of Britain – ‘divide and rule’ (laughs) but this time, it was in our favour. So, the colonial office backed us.

Lord Chandos said that on the face of the arguments before him it would be suicidal to incorporate secession in our constitution and that is why we have section 86 in our constitution that if any region or state should secede, then it will be an act of treason and that was what led to this war, because Col. Ojukwu seceded and so violated the constitution."

Biafra would have had the legal right to secede if it had not been for Azikiwe.

Even before that conference, Mr. Nnamdi Azikiwe, in a speech he gave at a caucus meeting of the National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroons on Monday, May 12, 1953, threatened the Northern Region of a blockade and denial of access to the sea if they should attempt to secede from Nigeria.

His exact words were as follows:

"It may lead to economic nationalism in the Eastern Region, which can pursue a policy of blockade of the North by refusing it access to the sea"
Why do you want to stay with people you claim hate you?
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by unmask: 7:53pm On Oct 23, 2024
Man102:
Source : https://politicsnigeria.com/denying-igbo-presidency-over-secession-attempts-is-unfair-obasanjo/
This is wrong in my opinion. Anybody can become president. That being said, I don't expect the presidency to be handed out to any tribe or region. Never been a fan of it.

If anybody wants to be president, win the popularity contest. Unfortunately Nigeria is a place where you need to make some compromises. But in the end, strategy and popularity will get anyone to become president.

Let's vote for the best candidate regardless of tribe.

If it was about tribe, then at least one state in Nigeria will be close to eldorado.
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by 3nity7: 7:54pm On Oct 23, 2024
Brendaniel:
Why do you want to stay with people you claim hate you?
don't mind them.
Good evening sir. I didn't see you online here for some days which was unusual because I usually see your shared posts and comments. Hope all is well with you sir.
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by aswani(m): 8:06pm On Oct 23, 2024
Man102:
Source : https://politicsnigeria.com/denying-igbo-presidency-over-secession-attempts-is-unfair-obasanjo/
No one is denying Ndigbo presidency, people just don't want to be bullied and gaslighted by Obidients into voting Peter Obi.

Ndigbo will be President only after Obidients gain some humility.
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Brendaniel: 8:09pm On Oct 23, 2024
3nity7:
don't mind them.
Good evening sir. I didn't see you online here for some days which was unusual because I usually see your shared posts and comments. Hope all is well with you sir.
Good evening, Wow, you are quite observant, my account was banned for almost 3 weeks by a mod who said I was inciting ethnic violence because I used the word Igbo haters, the ban expired about 2 days ago...

Then also took a loan and did an investment that has the entire funds trapped which spoilt my mood this evening....


Thanks for checking, I really appreciate and hope you are good on your side....
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by gabbytabby: 8:10pm On Oct 23, 2024
I don’t understand our people and have never heard the Scottish, Welsh or Irish state they have denied us the UK PM position.

Politics is a game of numbers and everyone has to get into the mainstream political parties and demonstrate capacity and pedigree to encourage members of the party to vote for you as their candidate and follow through by winning an election

Hence I shake my head when people say them no gree give am to a group of persons. Them get 2 heads to make it be given to them when others work for it.


Man102:
Source : https://politicsnigeria.com/denying-igbo-presidency-over-secession-attempts-is-unfair-obasanjo/
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by gabbytabby: 8:14pm On Oct 23, 2024
Stop the emotional blackmail and a sense of entitlement no one owes anyone their vote and similar to everyone you have to work for it.

Brendaniel:
Good evening, Wow, you are quite observant, my account was banned for almost 3 weeks by a mod who said I was inciting ethnic violence because I used the word Igbo haters, the ban expired about 2 days ago...

Then also took a loan and did an investment that has the entire funds trapped which spoilt my mood this evening....


Thanks for checking, I really appreciate and hope you are good on your side....
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by IGBOPROMISE1: 8:15pm On Oct 23, 2024
ofwest47:
Obasanro omo Kobo kobo from Anambra State police father, you are saying nonsense by saying your Ibo group were being denied Country's presidency.
It is unfortunate for you, going back to history __ December 12 1959 General election for Nigeria 🇳🇬 Independence.
Was it not Nnamdi Azikwe's NCNC that had the highest number of votes cast followed by Obafemi Awolowo A G and Tafawa Balewa of the NPC 3rd.
Recalled Awolowo say, Azikiwe go into alliance with Action Group with Nnamdi Azikiwe being swon in as the 1st Nigeria 🇳🇬 Prime minister. Did Zik not say No, that he preferred to be installed as deputy Prime minister with Tafawa Balewa the 3rd largest voter being becoming 1st Independent Prime minister of Nigeria even Recalled the intervention of Kwame Nkrumah the then Ghanaian PM asking Zik to agree with Awolowo's alliament proposal for him Zik with his level of education to be the 1st Nigeria 🇳🇬 P M. ; but Zik say No that the IBOs preferred to eat under the Balewa food table.
You also recalled in 1963 when Zik said he preferred to become a "A ceremonial President" under Tafawa Balewa Prime Ministership.
Then remember what brought about Nigeria 🇳🇬 _ Biafra war 1967 after Yakubu Gowon military administration created Cross River and River State from the then Eastern Region in line from 1954 Obafemi Awolowo proposals for the creation of CO R Region [ Calabar Ogoja Rivers Region before Independent] .
What brought about the killings of Wenike Briggs, and Lulu Briggs from River States Region the true ownerships of Bight of Biafra region by Ojukwu groups when the true 👍 ownership of Biafra regions say No to Ibo attempted creation of Biafra State.
So they say when the head is off it will be too late to cry.
So no IBO [I Before Others ≈courtesy of Zik] Presidential candidature is likely to be voted for again having say No to be sworn in as 1st Nigeria Prime minister at Independence in 1st October 1960.
This crass bigot has pulled yet more revisionism and outright lies straight outta his stinking ass! When it comes to seeking ‘justification’ for his inordinate lust for power, greed and bigotry, the well never runs dry! shocked
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Brendaniel: 8:21pm On Oct 23, 2024
gabbytabby:
Stop the emotional blackmail and a sense of entitlement no one owes anyone their vote and similar to everyone you have to work for it.
Hope all is well with you?
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by 3nity7: 8:58pm On Oct 23, 2024
Brendaniel:
Good evening, Wow, you are quite observant, my account was banned for almost 3 weeks by a mod who said I was inciting ethnic violence because I used the word Igbo haters, the ban expired about 2 days ago...

Then also took a loan and did an investment that has the entire funds trapped which spoilt my mood this evening....


Thanks for checking, I really appreciate and hope you are good on your side....
am good. All these mod sha. I have been following you and have not seen such in your posts. I love your comments, I think they are unbiased. Am from the niger delta region. I pray you recover your funds.
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Brendaniel: 9:11pm On Oct 23, 2024
3nity7:
am good. All these mod sha. I have been following you and have not seen such in your posts. I love your comments, I think they are unbiased. Am from the niger delta region. I pray you recover your funds.
Thanks for the compliment and Amen to your prayer, I really appreciate....
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Timmi: 9:28pm On Oct 23, 2024
Man102:
Source : https://politicsnigeria.com/denying-igbo-presidency-over-secession-attempts-is-unfair-obasanjo/
No one said that Igbo cannot be president because of their succession attempt. That is Obasanjo’s innuendos in order to play to the gallery. The truth of the matter is that Igbo cannot present a unified front nor present a credible candidate that can win an election and acceptable nationwide.
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by BabaO2: 9:36pm On Oct 23, 2024
why didn't obasanjo stepdown for Alex ekwueme in 1999 to be president instead of himself ?
obasanjo is only disgracing himself with unintelligent and hypocritical comments
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by cybernaut(m): 9:59pm On Oct 23, 2024
Sorry sir obasanjo we are going home . Marriage is never by force. Are you not among the mafia that destroyed Nigeria. Is too late we are going home because you know it and nothing anyone can do about it .
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by rummmy: 10:01pm On Oct 23, 2024
helinues:
Nobody is denying the Igbo's the presidency, they are not just playing their politics right

Build bridges, Dem say cement finish, okay now, let's see how they would get to the other side with ladder
4th mainland bridge I guess..
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by gabbytabby: 10:26pm On Oct 23, 2024
Who do you something

Brendaniel:
Hope all is well with you?
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by gabbytabby: 10:31pm On Oct 23, 2024
No mind them everybody works for it but they expect to be handed it on a platter. Who do them this sense of entitlement and choosing emotional blackmail up and down.

It’s so irritating to watch.

helinues:
Nobody is denying the Igbo's the presidency, they are not just playing their politics right

Build bridges, Dem say cement finish, okay now, let's see how they would get to the other side with ladder
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by MadPolitician: 10:59pm On Oct 23, 2024
stanluiz:
So the north have even attempted a secession and we don't see it in the media.

Lagos ibadan expresseway (LIE) media outlets decided not to talk about in order not to offend their masters in the north.

All they know is lie, propaganda and history revisionism.
They're evil
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Coolgent(m): 11:44pm On Oct 23, 2024
Tetrahedron:
I have maintained that Nzeogwu did the right thing in 1966 but maybe not executed with good precision enough, those that destroyed Nigeria were those that benefited from Nzeogwu’s coup.
People like:
Gowon
TY Danjuma
Northern Mafia etc
Why was Ironsi killed?? What benefits has the Mafia that took over Nigeria since then done for the countryhuh
Hopefully Nzeogwu is rooting in the hottest pit of hell!
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Brendaniel: 1:52am On Oct 24, 2024
gabbytabby:
Who do you something
like ?
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Namigotalktru: 3:04am On Oct 24, 2024
GeneralPula:
Didn’t he support Obi in the last election?
Na so. Why didn’t he support him when he was standing as a VP to a major party that had a chance to win?

Anyone that takes obj seriously is doing themselves he’s only talking for his personal interest.
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by rummmy: 3:22am On Oct 24, 2024
RoxyBrownAutos:
The office of the president is not contested, but it is decided and given by the king makers of the country. So, if the king makers want to give it to any tribe or region they wiil come together and do the job.It is not thumb printing on ballot paper on election day that produces the president. No matter how one struggles and agitates for president if the king makers don't want you,it cannot work. We all saw what happened in the 2023 presidential election together with court processes.
.you are 500% correct and that is why I have stopped voting in any election in Nigeria..
Ex rivers state governor wike also said that they will no longer accept results written in government house..
This his statement have alot of meaning considering what happened in imo state and Edo state elections together with 2023 presidential elections and the court processes..
The earlier one give up on Nigeria the better for you..
This is not a living country at all..
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by rummmy: 3:29am On Oct 24, 2024
helinues:
Stop doing whataboutism about issue concerning your region. Aren't you people even interested in making head way politically?

You can't be bragging of something you don't have. After all, it's not Kanuri, Nupe or Ibiobio people that have been governing South East for decades hence no development to show for it. And please save us the story about the civil war, Rwanda civil war was more recent and they have moved on.

Build bridges, form alliance, elect credible people at home to show the seriousness whether for the presidency or Biafra
your state and the entire country have developed to the level of Dubai abi?
Please name your community that is well developed than any community in the east...
When fools talk you don't need Jesus to know one.
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Image123(m): 4:14am On Oct 24, 2024
Brendaniel:
Why do you want to stay with people you claim hate you?
i don't know, ask Nnamdi.
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Shattuck(m): 5:16am On Oct 24, 2024
helinues:
Stop doing whataboutism about issue concerning your region. Aren't you people even interested in making head way politically?

You can't be bragging of something you don't have. After all, it's not Kanuri, Nupe or Ibiobio people that have been governing South East for decades hence no development to show for it. And please save us the story about the civil war, Rwanda civil war was more recent and they have moved on.

Build bridges, form alliance, elect credible people at home to show the seriousness whether for the presidency or Biafra
how credible is the Tinubu you all supported? Tribalist will always want hide, and pretend they have a noble cause.
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Owontime: 6:15am On Oct 24, 2024
Imagine using the word " Denying " as if you really expect Nigerians to dash you the presidency.
Is anyone stopping your IPOB people from contesting for president?
Beggers.
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Image123(m): 11:06am On Oct 24, 2024
MrGerald:
It's simple understanding in a country like Nigeria, it's skewed logic by saying numbers, they should have done the right thing. Ok when they're planning for any you think they'll tell you?
What simple understanding? Understand what? Nigeria is a complex country with very complex people. Elections are a game of numbers, it's fact not skewed. What is the right thing? Is governance about professing religion?
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by MrGerald(m): 2:19pm On Oct 24, 2024
Image123:
What simple understanding? Understand what? Nigeria is a complex country with very complex people. Elections are a game of numbers, it's fact not skewed. What is the right thing? Is governance about professing religion?
As a complex people like you rightly stated, governance in Nigeria should encompass and resonate around all of that
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Image123(m): 2:47pm On Oct 24, 2024
MrGerald:
As a complex people like you rightly stated, governance in Nigeria should encompass and resonate around all of that
Exactly, that's what it's currently doing. Or is Nigeria being islamized? Are Christians being threatened or neglected?
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by PropertyOffers(f): 5:07pm On Oct 24, 2024
Of course, can't you remember that there's a part of Obasanjo history that some Nigerians have cooked up claiming his father was Igbo grin
IFECHIGCON:
Obasanjo is about to be igbo right now grin grin grin
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by MrGerald(m): 2:04pm On Oct 25, 2024
Image123:
Exactly, that's what it's currently doing. Or is Nigeria being islamized? Are Christians being threatened or neglected?
This government is not doing anything bro, they are out of touch
Re: Denying Igbo Presidency Over Secession Attempts Is Unfair – Obasanjo by Image123(m): 2:10pm On Oct 25, 2024
MrGerald:
This government is not doing anything bro, they are out of touch
Let's take it one at a time. Foreign reserves are now over $40 billion. Highest level in maybe 10 years. Is this anything or nothing. It's better it's on $28 billion?
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