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Lovethpatra1:
In This Video,We take you through a historical Journey as we try to find a meaning in what the concept “Nigeria” really connotes.Brace yourself for the best video you’ll see today on the internet…Watch via the Facebook link below 👇

Why do you folks love to fixate on these meaningless things for Pete's sake?

Kobojunkie:
Why do you folks love to fixate on these meaningless things for Pete's sake?

in what way exactly is it meaningless sir?

Lovethpatra1:
in what way exactly is it meaningless sir?

The Constitution is quite clear on this topic.

Does it even Make sense that a Constitution drafted under an illegitimate military regime will clearly define to us what citizenship should be? Who was the constitution drafted to serve? The Citizens or military Leaders who only wanted to hold on to power? How many leaders from the more than 500 ethnic groups were represented in the process of
drafting the constitution? How can people who knew nothing about citizenship define to us how to become a citizen without the involvement of all the citizens in the process through proper ethnic representation?

Lovethpatra1:
■ Does it even Make sense that a Constitution drafted under an illegitimate military regime will clearly define to us what citizenship should be? Who was the constitution drafted to serve? The Citizens or military Leaders who only wanted to hold on to power? How many leaders from the more than 500 ethnic groups were represented in the process of
drafting the constitution?
■ How can people who knew nothing about citizenship define to us how to become a citizen without the involvement of all the citizens in the process through proper ethnic representation?

1. Until you are able to come together to obtain that Constitution you prefer, this is the Constitution and Supreme Law that exists.

2. The same citizens of Nigeria allowed the Military to rule over them for many many years without even a word about citizenship then. So?

Kobojunkie:
1. Until you are able to come together to obtain that Constitution you prefer, this is the Constitution and Supreme Law that exists.

2. The same citizens of Nigeria allowed the Military to rule over them for many many years without even a word about citizenship then. So?

The incompetence of that constitution is reflecting in our common underdevelopment as a people of Nigeria…The notion that the Nigerian Citizens allowed the Nigerian military to rule over them for a long time without doing nothing is absolutely incorrect,we have had a lot of Nigerians who stood up against the injustice and incompetence of the military era,some of who were unjustly murdered,imprisoned or exiled.The Biafra War is also a reference of the resolution of the people against the military government

Lovethpatra1:
■ The incompetence of that constitution is reflecting in our common underdevelopment as a people of Nigeria…The notion that the Nigerian Citizens allowed the Nigerian military to rule over them for a long time without doing nothing is absolutely incorrect,we have had a lot of Nigerians who stood up against the injustice and incompetence of the military era,some of who were unjustly murdered,imprisoned or exiled.The Biafra War is also a reference of the resolution of the people against the military government

Isn't it a tad convenient to blame all of the failures of the Nigerian people on the document? Yes, it is not a perfect constitution — no Constitution ever started a perfect document— but the failures of the Nigerian people in the last 25 years CANNOT be traced to the document as you claim but rather to the refusal of the people to take the front seat in their own government whatever shape they wish or wished for it to take.

How then can the people achieve this without a sense of unity? That is the whole idea of the video I posted today,there is no “Nigerian” anywhere but rather we are just a bunch of societies that were unjustly suppressed together into one state for colonial interest and prosperity….Till today after more than 50 years we are still unable to sit down on a round table and clearly define the meaning and essence of our relationship.Our lack of a unified cultural system among the numerous ethnic groups that exist has furthermore disintegrated us.We are not Nigerians we are just a people of different ethnic inclination existing in a neo-colonial British project callled Nigeria….Until we come together and accept to be Nigerians the true essence of the word “Nigerian” may never be achieved and will continue to be a concept of no tangible interpretation.it will continue to be something we know but don’t understand

Lovethpatra1:
Does it even Make sense that a Constitution drafted under an illegitimate military regime will clearly define to us what citizenship should be? Who was the constitution drafted to serve? The Citizens or military Leaders who only wanted to hold on to power? How many leaders from the more than 500 ethnic groups were represented in the process of
drafting the constitution? How can people who knew nothing about citizenship define to us how to become a citizen without the involvement of all the citizens in the process through proper ethnic representation?

just say directly you want biafra than tryin to play with our minds here....

their is no none ibo capable to give you biafra....
people that try to help you always suffer and at the end you still abuse them....

nobody gives a fvck no more....

Lovethpatra1:
■ How then can the people achieve this without a sense of unity?
■ That is the whole idea of the video I posted today, there is no “Nigerian” anywhere but rather we are just a bunch of societies that were unjustly suppressed together into one state for colonial interest and prosperity….
■ Till today after more than 50 years we are still unable to sit down on a round table and clearly define the meaning and essence of our relationship.
■ Our lack of a unified cultural system among the numerous ethnic groups that exist has furthermore disintegrated us.
■ We are not Nigerians we are just a people of different ethnic inclination existing in a neo-colonial British project callled Nigeria….Until we come together and accept to be Nigerians the true essence of the word “Nigerian” may never be achieved and will continue to be a concept of no tangible interpretation.it will continue to be something we know but don’t understand

1. Define "Sense of Unity". Let's start there so we clearly understand where you are attempting to take this. Where was this sense of unity defined and described in 1960 for example, and what has become of the definition since then?

2. There is no Nigeria yet a Nigerian celebrated its independence in 1960?

3. Even siblings have issues with each other so what exactly is your point here?

4. What in the world is a Unified cultural system and why is the requirement?

5. The United States is by far the most diverse nation on the planet today with almost every culture in the world represented at different levels in the society. Are you somehow telling me that all these people who have come together in this one nation are also just people of different ethnic inclinations? Are you suggesting that the true essence of the word American is lost as a result of that?

13 colonies came together to form The Usa and were predominantly European settlers of which 70-80% where british….Meaning the early American Society was almost mono-cultural in nature and this created the right foundation for the Country to grow.There was almost no need for “a sense of unity” here because the people had similar cultural systems and values….A sense of Unity in my standpoint is the process or act where Different ethnic groups agree and consent on their own terms without any external influence to exist under one government which they deliberately formed and support….The kind of Cultural system that produced America as a country differs from the type that birthed Nigeria…One was Mono-cultural and the other was hetero-cultural in nature….Well due to the activities of slavery,immigration etc the Cultural nature of the American society expanded but obviously we can see the problems that came with that which in some way is similar to the ethnic issues ravaging Nigeria but theirs is more of racial injustice and other vices that comes with merging different societies together without their consent

Lovethpatra1:
■ 13 colonies came together to form The Usa and were predominantly European settlers of which 70-80% where british….Meaning the early American Society was almost mono-cultural in nature and this created the right foundation for the Country to grow.
■ There was almost no need for “a sense of unity” here because the people had similar cultural systems and values….A sense of Unity in my standpoint is the process or act where Different ethnic groups agree and consent on their own terms without any external influence to exist under one government which they deliberately formed and support….The kind of Cultural system that produced America as a country differs from the type that birthed Nigeria…One was Mono-cultural and the other was hetero-cultural in nature….Well due to the activities of slavery,immigration etc the Cultural nature of the American society expanded but obviously we can see the problems that came with that which in some way is similar to the ethnic issues ravaging Nigeria but theirs is more of racial injustice and other vices that comes with merging different societies together without their consent

1. The Nigeria we have today and the Constitution your agitate against topic is about is only 25 years old — belongs to the fourth republic—so it would make better sense for you to compare it to the America of today than America back in 1500-1600s.

2. Similar cultures— a sense of unity— yet to this moment we speak, divisions exist among Americans along racial, religious, and even gender lines?

It dosent matter how old a constitution is as long as it was forced on people of different cultural backgrounds without any form of agreement or sense of unity it will never bear the fruits they desire….America today is facing similar problems as of Nigeria because of the activities of slavery that forcefully introduced people of extremely different cultural systems to their society and it’s why more recently in the historical calendar we’ve witnessed cultural and racial clashes among citizens whose parents were forced to nationalize as Americans…There is always the consequences of merging two or more disagreeing societies together.Don’t forget America initially utilized slavery in developing their society which later became a part of their society and expanded their culture so we can say in a way they had a useful heterogeneous cultural relationship which benefited the development of the American society,Nigeria never had that luxury of utilizing slavery to advance and develop themselves.So you cannot use America’s hetero-cultural nature of developing their society to compare with Nigeria because the indices of development are different

Lovethpatra1:
■ It dosent matter how old a constitution is as long as it was forced on people of different cultural backgrounds without any form of agreement or sense of unity it will never bear the fruits they desire….
■ America today is facing similar problems as of Nigeria because of the activities of slavery that forcefully introduced people of extremely different cultural systems to their society and it’s why more recently in the historical calendar we’ve witnessed cultural and racial clashes among citizens whose parents were forced to nationalize as Americans…
■ There is always the consequences of merging two or more disagreeing societies together.
■ Don’t forget America initially utilized slavery in developing their society which later became a part of their society and expanded their culture so we can say in a way they had a useful heterogeneous cultural relationship which benefited the development of the American society, Nigeria never had that luxury of utilizing slavery to advance and develop themselves.So you cannot use America’s hetero-cultural nature of developing their society to compare with Nigeria because the indices of development are different

1. There is no history of the Nigerian people— en masse— revolting against the very current Constitution or any of the previous ones. So, I am not certain what you mean when you claim it was FORCED on the people.

2. America is facing no such problems as that which you claim rather, the various groups have each accepted they are part and parcel of the country which they then fight to be considered of equal standing unlike what you are attempting to do here.

3. There is no homogenous collection of people to be found in any nation anywhere on this planet. Humans are different and part of existence is learning to embrace and work with those differences not amplify them and use them to use ourselves. Regardless of how different we are in America, we all sit together, work together, and build together... why can't Nigeria and Nigerians in Nigeria do the same, or at least begin to work towards that instead of seeking ways to tear themselves apart some more?

4. That makes no sense at all. So, Nigeria which doesn't have a slave population cannot consider its people useful enough and beneficial for its own advancement? What the crock?

1. Nigerians have not en masse revolted against the current constitution because the larger population of the country is dominated by the north and west who see absolutely no need in abolishing the constitution because they want to continuously use their population advantage to hold on to power and it’s why the north and west most times work together for political gains.Due to the religious nature of the north and some part of the west which is predominantly Islam,the importance of western education is mostly undermined there in an attempt to keep controlling and misguiding the minds of the youths for their political gain and because of the prioritization of religious and cultural loyalty in expense of national cohesion,unifying attempts have failed and thus foiled the progress of coming together as a people of different ethnic groups to organize and protest against any social,political or constitutional injustice.

2. There is a difference between certain groups accepting to be part of a society and the society which they came to meet accepting to be a part of them.It is evident that the Native American society who were the early settlers there still perceive people of other racial and ethnic inclination as intruders and hence the rise of social Justice and acceptance revolution by people like Martin Luther King Jr,Malcom X and the Pan African Congress which were mostly spearheaded by Black Americans and housed people like Kwame Nkrumah of Ghana,Nnamdi Azikiwe of Nigeria etc.American society have had their own fair share of ethnic disintegration which still exists till this day and is responsible for one of the reasons why America has not attained its full potentials yet.To be more specific the blacks have accepted to be Americans but the Americans have not accepted the Blacks and this is visible is a minute portion of power allocated to the blacks at the national level and that’s why you keep hearing first black this and first black that in the discuss of national politics.The American society like that of Nigeria must come together on a round table and agree on the basis of their co-existence and abolish the idea of a majority group and a minority if racial equality is to be achieved

3. Yes there is no country that completely exists with a homogeneous culture but to a large extent the cultures must be extremely similar to support national and cultural cohesion like in the case of China,Japan,Russia etc.The similarity in culture and language in the aforementioned countries have further led to their rapid development,organization and cooperation.That being said it is slower and most cases very difficult to sit together with people of different ideologies,cultural backgrounds and religious inclination to talk about development because development to different people may be understood differently.The northern part of Nigeria do not necessarily desire physical or national development due to their religious orientation which promises them virgins in heaven and glorious heavenly rewards as compensation for their loyalty to Islam and avoidance of material development and it’s why despite holding majority of power in Nigeria’s history the north has remained the poverty capital of Nigeria not because they don’t have rich elites but because majority of the non-elites are extremely poor.How do you sit on a round table with persons who lack the right mindset for cooperation and development to discuss about development? People who in a country where English is widely accepted as a national means of communication don’t speak or en masse understand English? With the poor religious orientation,poor education (due to the wide rejection of western education),timid nature,poor political orientation and loyalty to cultural values at the expense of national values how then do you think such a nation with such a vastness of differences progress?

4. That is not the case,Nigerians are one of the most useful people on the planet when they work alone but together it’s always an issue.That is why i advised in that video the need to seek for a unifying or centralized national cultural concept to improve inter-ethnic cohesion