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Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by drnoel: 1:46pm On Oct 27, 2024
flyinnizam:
old biden should keep quiet. if Elon Musk was an illegal migrant, he won't be talking about illegal migrants all the time
Lol, he was an illegal worker not illegal immigrant. Please know the difference before you open your write rubbish. It's all documented so Biden ain't talking out of poin but facts. Difference between Dems and GOP.
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by drnoel: 1:47pm On Oct 27, 2024
Biodun556:
Pls send him back to South Africa or Nigeria if you don't want him

What Elon musk achieve in few years of space exploration is beyond what NASA achieved in decades
Musk already has American citizenship so he ain't going no where
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by drnoel: 1:48pm On Oct 27, 2024
naijapips04:
Is Joe now admitting that illegal immigrants already in the country are breaking the law? Dementia Joe should go and rest.
.

Hilarious 😂😂😂 but silly comment. Please educate yourself and understand he meant something else
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by koboko69:
Originalsly:
Illegal worker is not the same as illegal immigrant. Musk entered the country legally. He was supposed to be going to school but was working instead which was illegal. Can he be deported?... I'm almost sure. Biden should sit down and shut up if he's not going to take action against him.
You can enter a country legally and still become an illegal immigrant. The moment u abandon what u came for, you become an illegal immigrant. Hope that helps? #genius FAKE
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by horlando30: 1:55pm On Oct 27, 2024
Baffupdrizz:
The two things that I find contradictory in this statement is that he says that:
1. He was in the US illegally yet admitting that he 'came' on student visa at the same time.

2. That since he was working, that he wasn't in school. Is he trying to argue that those who are in school are not allowed by law to work?

Can anyone with more knowledge about the matter please clarify why working in this case or any case whatsoever could be seen as violation of the law?
Its simply a political talk. He was never an illegal migrant. He was first their as a transfer student from canada to us where he completed his undegraduate degree then started a Phd in stanford before dropping out. He started a startup company which a student especially a exceptional one like him can start as long as the do it in collaboration with a citizen. They have special visa for that. This is just pure politics nothing more. After the election, no one will talk about this again
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by CatchMeIfUCanMO: 1:56pm On Oct 27, 2024
jayce232:
What has the world richest man achieved??
You people are very pathetic!
E shock you?

I wanted to reply him when I saw that question but then I realized he is empty upstairs, so it will be a waste of time replying him.
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by Goke7: 1:58pm On Oct 27, 2024
RodgersAkpafu:
I always get under their skin when I am around them
That's my favourite past time
Calling them European Americans

The thing dey vex them eh
It means they know what they are doing
Its only a matter of time before the denonym stick

White Supremacy must die this century
Well over 200,000 Ukrainians entered the uk as refugees or asylum seekers, they were given accommodation and food no noise o. When you mention it they are quick to defend that they fled from war even from hongkong they gave away thousands of visas to those protesting against china yet no noise. Different rules apply depending on skin colour. May God punish all these hypocrites.
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by ObalendeCMS: 1:58pm On Oct 27, 2024
djon78:
So Elon Musk a South African came to the US on a student visa

But today is the worlds richest man

Honestly give it to America


But on a second thought our Nigerian and other African brothers that migrated to the US

There isn't even a billionaire self among them


Hmmm🤷
This is called "The American Dream"

& na why almost everyone with dreams & ambitions wan enter Yankee.

Ditto myself!
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by IbeOkehie: 2:02pm On Oct 27, 2024
cococandy:
Trumps govt started a denaturalization department to strip citizenship from legal migrants. Any slight error they dig and find in anything relating to your migration. No matter how minute or inconsequential, they’ll take away your citizenship.

You know who it’s not going to affect? White migrants from Ireland, Scotland, England and all them lands. Do you know who will be the most affected? Colored migrants from African and Hispanic countries. So far trumps one term administration has done 40% of the denaturalization of legal immigrants in recent decades.

When migrants from Africa reach America and think they’ll dance to the tune of white supremacists hoping that they’d somehow be exempt from the cruelty, I just look at them and SMH.

Something about the leopards eating the faces something something.
cc RodgersAkpafu Gerrard Tianemen1 steeltrust Seunmsg1

First an interesting history - An interesting history - https://www.britannica.com/place/Liberia

You live in California, it's full of Koreans, Japanese and Asian Indians. Your comment means these groups are LESS affected by immigration enforcement. They're not White or Caucasian, so it would be interesting to know WHY that is the case.

Next, there is no country where all citizens or residents are treated equally, either as individuals or groups. I'm very sure of of this. It's human nature and there's no way the USA can be an exception. Everyone, including your good self, is guilty.

Now on African immigrants. I'll ask the same general question configured in different ways so I can hopefully get the point across.

1) Can you name a prosperous country or one with high living standards dominated by Black Africans?

2) Can you name a country with high living standards dominated by Koreans, Japanese or Asian Indians?

3) Can you name a country dominated by Black Africans or Negroes where a significant percentage of the population would NOT migrate if given visa-free entry to the USA?

4) Let's say one state in the USA and one COUNTRY in Europe are emptied of people over a period of time and Black Africans are given those places to live in with full national independence. What is your outlook for the living standards in that country after 50 to 100 years?

5) Let's say a one country in West Africa is emptied and given over to White Caucasians, what is your outlook for the living standards in that country after 50 to 100 years?

6) Nigeria took over from India as the Poverty Capital of the World in 2018. Why do you think that happened and what should be the reaction of the USA to Indian & Nigerian immigration, based on this data point? If you were President of the USA, based on USA interest, which country would be more attractive to you for getting immigrants?

7) Malaria is probably the most burdensome disease to humanity in terms of morbidity and mortality. Black Africa is particularly affected. Several drugs for malaria have been invented over the years. Who invented those drugs? Why?

Again, an interesting history that everyone should read and think about - https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/3/dominican-republic-says-will-expel-up-to-10000-haitian-migrants-a-week

People are different, groups of people are different. There's not much that can be done about the results that accrue from such differences.

Good Luck to Nigerians.
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by Goke7: 2:03pm On Oct 27, 2024
RodgersAkpafu:
I forgot to add
even Trump wife was an illegal who Trump at the time dubiously helped to "regularise" her stay and subsequently became American

They will not see that one
But Obama till today, despite having a white mom but looks and identifies as black is still a victim of the "birthed movement " which was starred by yours truly Donald Trump and people till date still call him not American and should be deported

Go to all these right wing spaces and see what goes on there
But black ppl who no get sense of understanding of the world they live in will be siding with them because of religious or even silly reasons of thinking they "belong somehow"

White Supremacy ?


anyways
It’s all low self esteem actually trying to be politically correct whereas there’s nothing like political correctness for the right wing
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by CatchMeIfUCanMO: 2:03pm On Oct 27, 2024
Professor822714:
Are you retarded or what? Dude bailed on his PhD and opened a company on an F1 visa which is a crime.
Keep kwayet Mr man, it is not an offense for exceptional*** students, and also if the student came in through exchange program from certain countries and for certain education level(PhD), provided he is doing it in partnership with a citizen of that country.
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by flyinnizam(m): 2:06pm On Oct 27, 2024
steeltrust:
what do you know
Trump and musk are all illegal immigrants who became legal and now living the American dream but same people want to stifle other migrants even those who come legally

He’s not ready to be president
oga shut up, if trump is an immigrant, he can't contest
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by flyinnizam(m): 2:07pm On Oct 27, 2024
wirinet:
Have you never heard of pulling down the ladder you used in climbing to the top in order to prevent others from using the same ladder?
have u ever broke a girls heart u promise not to break?
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by Seunmsg1: 2:07pm On Oct 27, 2024
flyinnizam:
old biden should keep quiet. if Elon Musk was an illegal migrant, he won't be talking about illegal migrants all the time
Even Trump's wife was like that before meeting him and she too is talking against immigrants. So Musk also can. You don't understand that the immigration battle is against coloured people and not white people.
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by Munzy14(m): 2:13pm On Oct 27, 2024
Elon musk's grace and wealth has been on steroids from birth.
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by Odidigboigbo(m): 2:13pm On Oct 27, 2024
vickertony:
He didn't lie..Musk was illegal at some point
He was not illegal, he entered US legally as a students
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by Corporate2020: 2:16pm On Oct 27, 2024
He will soon find himself in his father’s land South Africa
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by RodgersAkpafu: 2:17pm On Oct 27, 2024
Goke7:
Well over 200,000 Ukrainians entered the uk as refugees or asylum seekers, they were given accommodation and food no noise o. When you mention it they are quick to defend that they fled from war even from hongkong they gave away thousands of visas to those protesting against china yet no noise. Different rules apply depending on skin colour. May God punish all these hypocrites.
Those guys (well some of them are racist to the bone)

In my city (cos a good number of them were settled here), they did not want to live with the black British and that caused SERIOUS TENSIONS

Guess who the far right sided here ?
You guessed right
But black brits get choko for head, them no gree for them, so now they are behaving themselves
British Pakis too no dey gree 4 them

That respect u don't wanna give is as human beings, we go drag am by force by fire
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by RodgersAkpafu: 2:20pm On Oct 27, 2024
Goke7:
It’s all low self esteem actually trying to be politically correct whereas there’s nothing like political correctness for the right wing
Look at Myron Gaines, that kid from Fresh and Fit podcast
Despite everything he has done, denigrating blacks and all that, he got his reality check in that white only podcast, and he was quiet as a mouse

Try it with me or other Nigerians wey dey craze for head and you would have seen wahala that day in that space
Shey na Chinamanda Adiche you wan dey talk to like that ?

Again, especially here in the UK, I like how minorities are now taking the fight to them

Coons will always be amongst us, normal level, but like I always say, White Suoremacy must die this century
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by RodgersAkpafu: 2:21pm On Oct 27, 2024
cococandy:
Trumps govt started a denaturalization department to strip citizenship from legal migrants. Any slight error they dig and find in anything relating to your migration. No matter how minute or inconsequential, they’ll take away your citizenship.

You know who it’s not going to affect? White migrants from Ireland, Scotland, England and all them lands. Do you know who will be the most affected? Colored migrants from African and Hispanic countries. So far trumps one term administration has done 40% of the denaturalization of legal immigrants in recent decades.

When migrants from Africa reach America and think they’ll dance to the tune of white supremacists hoping that they’d somehow be exempt from the cruelty, I just look at them and SMH


Something about the leopards eating the faces something something.
You are so right with the bolded
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by RodgersAkpafu: 2:24pm On Oct 27, 2024
IbeOkehie:
cc RodgersAkpafu Gerrard Tianemen1 steeltrust Seunmsg1

First an interesting history - An interesting history - https://www.britannica.com/place/Liberia

You live in California, it's full of Koreans, Japanese and Asian Indians. Your comment means these groups are LESS affected by immigration enforcement. They're not White or Caucasian, so it would be interesting to know WHY that is the case.

Next, there is no country where all citizens or residents are treated equally, either as individuals or groups. I'm very sure of of this. It's human nature and there's no way the USA can be an exception. Everyone, including your good self, is guilty.

Now on African immigrants. I'll ask the same general question configured in different ways so I can hopefully get the point across.

1) Can you name a prosperous country or one with high living standards dominated by Black Africans?

2) Can you name a country with high living standards dominated by Koreans, Japanese or Asian Indians?

3) Can you name a country dominated by Black Africans or Negroes where a significant percentage of the population would NOT migrate if given visa-free entry to the USA?

4) Let's say one state in the USA and one COUNTRY in Europe are emptied of people over a period of time and Black Africans are given those places to live in with full national independence. What is your outlook for the living standards in that country after 50 to 100 years?

5) Let's say a one country in West Africa is emptied and given over to White Caucasians, what is your outlook for the living standards in that country after 50 to 100 years?

6) Nigeria took over from India as the Poverty Capital of the World in 2018. Why do you think that happened and what should be the reaction of the USA to Indian & Nigerian immigration, based on this data point? If you were President of the USA, based on USA interest, which country would be more attractive to you for getting immigrants?

7) Malaria is probably the most burdensome disease to humanity in terms of morbidity and mortality. Black Africa is particularly affected. Several drugs for malaria have been invented over the years. Who invented those drugs? Why?

Again, an interesting history that everyone should read and think about - https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/3/dominican-republic-says-will-expel-up-to-10000-haitian-migrants-a-week

People are different, groups of people are different. There's not much that can be done about the results that accrue from such differences.

Good Luck to Nigerians.
All you have done is rationalise white supremacy

And to answer your question, even Asians are not spared...
Heck, even Jews, the most successful immigrant group in US is not spared, anti semitic thinking is on the sharp rise in the right wing American space

All it took was for Trump to tag the virus China Virus and covertly blame them, and people who looked Chinese (whether they were or not)
were targeted on the street and beaten up like crooks

That was the reality check a lot of Asians needed to get in the USA, and they are now aware
i communicate with a few, and they tell me that that was what flipped the switch for them

I'm even ambivalent when it comes to immigration
My own is treat people as people
human. beings as human beings
not calling or treating them like animals

Why do u wanna target naturalised minorities but spare the European ones, when Statistics show clearly that the Europeans are the ones who abuse the immigration laws the most (with ESTA et al)

Sorry, there is no excuse for white supremacy
the same way there is no excuse for tribalism , bigotry or religious zealotry

And from your post, I see what you r doing,
you are trying to allude that Black people cannot build functional societies, which is not true, and is peak cooning

Tulsa and Botswana are two of many examples of what Black people are capable of doing IF LEFT ALONE TO SORT THEIR ISSUES
even Trinidad is doin decently today

we both know what happened to Tulsa (the riots and the burning down of the place )
Rosewood nko
Wilmington North Carolina?

It's not black and white
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by IjeBos(m): 2:29pm On Oct 27, 2024
Odidigboigbo:
He was not illegal, he entered US legally as a students
Once you are our of status you are illegal.
He came on a student Visa. He was out of status once he left school and started working illegaly.
His employer and his brother admitted it.
Can you stop spreading this lie.
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by Goke7: 2:30pm On Oct 27, 2024
RodgersAkpafu:
Look at Myron Gaines, that kid from Fresh and Fit podcast
Despite everything he has done, denigrating blacks and all that, he got his reality check in that white only podcast, and he was quiet as a mouse

Try it with me or other Nigerians wey dey craze for head and you would have seen wahala that day in that space
Shey na Chinamanda Adiche you wan dey talk to like that ?

Again, especially here in the UK, I like how minorities are now taking the fight to them

Coons will always be amongst us, normal level, but like I always say, White Suoremacy must die this century
In fact the recent riots in the uk was a reality check for many ethnic minorities who had always sided with the right wing. Suddenly it dawned on them that their British passports was not enough to have them covered. Na those on work visas make me laugh pass as those ones suddenly found out they were in same category with those that crossed the English Channel 😂

las las everyone go get sense one day
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by Badgers14: 2:30pm On Oct 27, 2024
Originalsly:
No doubt ... when your visa expires you are in the country illegally. When did his visa expire?
The group he is fighting is the one that wants to enter the country illegally ... he's against open borders which allow people to enter a country without being documented. Isn't that a problem we complain about in Nigeria?... people just be trooping in from Chad and wherever?
US doesn't even have open border. I don't know where that narrative is coming from..
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by IjeBos(m): 2:33pm On Oct 27, 2024
Originalsly:
No doubt ... when your visa expires you are in the country illegally. When did his visa expire?
The group he is fighting is the one that wants to enter the country illegally ... he's against open borders which allow people to enter a country without being documented. Isn't that a problem we complain about in Nigeria?... people just be trooping in from Chad and wherever?
He had a student visa.
He was here to study but never enrolled in school.
He was therefore out of status and fraudulently got his visa.

There are a lot of people who went out of status who had to leave the US.
He got benefits most wouldn't.

And the truth is that most immigrants are here legally. The US law allows for people to file asylum claims which take time to adjudicate (4+ years). Until they are denied they are technically here legally.
The problem is the asylum system is broken.
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by RodgersAkpafu: 2:34pm On Oct 27, 2024
Goke7:
In fact the recent riots in the uk was a reality check for many ethnic minorities who had always sided with the right wing. Suddenly it dawned on them that their British passports was not enough to have them covered. Na those on work visas make me laugh pass as those ones suddenly found out they were in same category with those that crossed the English Channel 😂

las las everyone go get sense one day
Those riots were not funny
That period, people thought they had free rein to say their mind
And you need to hear what politicians, nurses, even lecturers were saying during that period

Even the wife of a tory openly said they should set the hotel on fire and kill those asylum seekers
It was wild
Keir Starmer did well by hammering them and sending many to prison
Then they started crying about it

Well, my guy, to shorten long talk, everybody go dey alright grin tongue
We are here be say we are here
This has become our country too
Whether them like am or not
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by RodgersAkpafu: 2:35pm On Oct 27, 2024
IjeBos:
He had a student visa.
He was here to study but never enrolled in school.
He was therefore out of status and fraudulently got his visa.

There are a lot of people who went out of status who had to leave the US.
He got benefits most wouldn't.
he knows what he is doing
he was in a similar situation years ago, that's why he is talking like this

He can deny it all he wants but even him knows himself

Illegal is illegal
It's just difficult for people to see white folks as illegal
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by Originalsly: 2:35pm On Oct 27, 2024
Badgers14:
US doesn't even have open border. I don't know where that narrative is coming from..
That was when the South Americans were trooping in in their "Caravans".
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by IjeBos(m): 2:37pm On Oct 27, 2024
RodgersAkpafu:
he knows what he is doing
he was in a similar situation years ago, that's why he is talking like this

He can deny it all he wants but even him knows himself

Illegal is illegal
It's just difficult for people to see white folks as illegal
Trump was honest about it.
He basically said he wants more immigrants from white countries and not from shithole countries like Nigeria.
But these Nigerians here still bow down to him.
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by IbeOkehie: 2:38pm On Oct 27, 2024
RodgersAkpafu:
All you have done is rationalise white supremacy

And to answer your question, even Asians are not spared...
Heck, even Jews, the most successful immigrant group in US is not spared, anti semitic thinking is on the sharp rise in the right wing American space

All it took was for Trump to tag the virus China Virus and covertly blame them, and people who looked Chinese (whether they were or not)
were targeted on the street and beaten up like crooks


That was the reality check a lot of Asians needed to get in the USA, and they are now aware
i communicate with a few, and they tell me that that was what flipped the switch for them
OK, what is it that has made Nigeria the Poverty Capital of the World? I was discussing Zimbabwe with Oga Gerrard some time back and he mentioned that USA sanctions have contributed to the poor state of the economy there. Whereupon I wondered why Nigeria that isn't under sanctions is performing so badly.

Yes, let's take your word that Asians are being subjected to discrimination by Whites or the USA government. Yet somehow, Asians are by some INCOME measures doing better than White Americans. How can this happen despite their being discriminated against, it's a mystery. Hmmmm. And this Asian discrimination or oppression thing sef, let me ask you something. Between Black Americans and White Americans, which race kills, robs or assaults more Asians every year in the USA? Ask Cococandy, she lives in California so she would know.

Good Luck to Nigerians.
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by RodgersAkpafu: 2:41pm On Oct 27, 2024
IjeBos:
Trump was honest about it.
He basically said he wants more immigrants from white countries and not from shithole countries like Nigeria.
But these Nigerians here still bow down to him.
I remember
he was talking to the Finland Prime minister and when he mentioned it , my mouth dropped

I was like grin cheesy
This guy is crazy
He clearly stated he wanted to open the door for Nordics and close the door to the global south (which btw is his perogative and is not really morally wrong)

But be honest about your white supremacist stance, and that's why I like Trumo and Musk, even though they are two animals
They wear white supremacy on their sleevea
Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by Amayabor1: 2:41pm On Oct 27, 2024
flyinnizam:
old biden should keep quiet. if Elon Musk was an illegal migrant, he won't be talking about illegal migrants all the time
One of the dumb Trump wannabes that don't think. It was Washington post did the investigations and they found out musk broke the law by entering the US on a student visa but dropped out of the school to get a work visa. Even Musk hasn't come out to deny it. What an hypocrite he is.
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