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| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by BOBAN2710: 6:32pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
SlavaUkraini: |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by Gentlevip: 6:38pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
Israel the highest child killers ever in the world. The idiot couldn't take more before he kissed hell fire |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by frankson1(m): 7:15pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
elipheleh:Na you transfer PTSD to all Nigerian soldiers abi ![]() The post talks about Israeli soldiers but you just had to bring in Nigeria in this matter. You should go back to your local politics section where you insult yourselves. |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by Idaytesj29(m): 7:15pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
Righthussle:That Righteousness will eventually develop PTSD over the killings going on in that region. |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by uunwanaobong3: 7:34pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
THE BLOOD OF INNOCENT CHILDREN IS HUNTING HIM |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by HydraFeeds(m): 7:42pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
J3susFr3ak:It's erroneous to ascribe free speech to judeo Christian religions . Christianity began about 2000 years ago but kingdom and empires like Roman Empire , Macedonia etc that predated Christianity have been practising free speech. That's why the most popular philosophers like Socrates , Aristotle etc came from there . The same applies to Africa as well ,for instance in old Yoruba empires like Ife and Oyo ,they had committee that regulate king power to prevent abuse and that's why they still practice liberalism today compared to the north . In a nutshell , liberalism is more of culture rather than religion . UAE and Qatar are dominant Muslim countries but they're more liberal compared to Muslim countries like Afghanistan. While giving countries with popular atheistic tendencies example ,you should have given examples like Scandinavian countries. I've never seen or heard a country that kills or persecute people because they're not atheist or irreligious. China is predominantly Buddhism,same thing that was practiced in South Korea . Let me give you example of how free will and omniscience can't work together . God is said to be omniscient that created humans and gave this humans free will to choose . If God is Omniscient,he will know everything,he's the alpha and the Omega ,that is ,he already knows the end point from the beginning( reference to Jeremiah 1:5) . Now if a man has free will ,he can choose between different options but let's limit it to 2 options ,if he chooses A ,there will an outcome ,if he chooses B there will be a different outcome ,if God is Omniscient,he would have known the option the man will choose ,if he doesn't know ,then he doesn't know everything and he's not Omniscient. Therefore the ability to choose is just an illusion because God already knows what he will choose . Talking about sin ,if Devil makes us to sin ,who or what made devil to commit his own sin that made him fall in the first place ? If God is Omniscient,he knows each man and what they will become therefore,the idea of sending Jesus to appease himself is ludicrous because each man has his fate sealed even before he was formed . Paul and Jesus are humans like us and they have tendencies to be faulty in their thoughts . That's another reason religion should be scrapped cos some knowledge and doings of 2000 years ago is no longer valid or perfect today |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by Anonimoux: 7:47pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
malali:They don't know. |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by HydraFeeds(m): 7:50pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
Tommydare:Who created religion ,is it not human ? Who kill or persecute his fellow man because of differences in religious beliefs,is it not human ? Who promised heaven after death ,is it not religion ? |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by zumbigbo(m): 8:16pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
Those Israeli fighters are bleeped - fighting for a cause they know is wrong - over land they have stolen. In Bahia, Brazil there is a resort town I visited full of ex IDF soldiers who go there to stabilise - they are all paranoid, delusional and suffering from PTSD and nightmares. That is how NetanNazi secures the future for his youth. ![]() |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by zumbigbo(m): 8:18pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
uunwanaobong3:Nothing good comes from blood debt and genocide - you see how it has bonded Naija...nothing go work |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by SoaringLife01: 8:48pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
PTSD is normal, he should have seek for help. He fought the war to defend his homeland from Hamas aggression. May his memory be a blessing all the same. |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by chilltoo(m): 8:52pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
Israel war has never been God's war, if only you fight them by wanting to take away what God has given them (to the true Israelis), but God never fought for them when they try to cheat others and take their land by force. I am going to say this again that there's no first Jew and last Helene, all are same in the sight of God Almighty. When you kill a righteous man( God maketh man Righteous and not by any good character or deeds), you will pay dearly for it. God is God of all men. |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by J3susFr3ak: 8:55pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
HydraFeeds:There are clearly certain things you got wrong. And many areas you contradicted yoursefl. For a start...attributing liberal thinking to the Greeks can have its shorcomings. Why was Socrates killed? Google has your answer: "In 399 B.C.E., Socrates was executed by the Athenian court on charges of impiety and corrupting the youth. The controversial decision lingers atop the great legacy of Athens, a city praised for its intellectual and political liberty. However, the reasons behind Socrates' execution are them- selves questionable." And why was Aristotle exiled from Athens?-- "Aristotle died of natural causes, though he was exiled from Athens for criticising the government. He believed in a spherical Earth (with the sun going around it). Socrates was executed by compelled suicide (the cup of hemlock), again for criticising the state." So your model of pre-Christian liberal thought failed the test since they either killed the most logical thinker for corrupting the Youth and exiled his pupil for criticiing the government. The African societies (and this includes your liberal ethnic Yoruba ones) did not practice the Freedom of Speech found in the context of Modern Democracies. If you were born 200 years ago....I would dare you to criticize your local king or council. I bet you will face severe punishment or even death for holding a different opinion. I will not dare say that the Gulf States you mentioned are the true bastions of liberal progress or democracy. Try putting yourself in the shoes of a migrant worker from South Asia living in the same country. Even though you might also be Muslim...your living reality will be absolutely different from the native Muslims. Should I recount the brutality and unfair maltreatment these people who built the Dubai Skyscrapers and other structures face in their own ghettos? Even Ethiopians who go to do household chores in Saudi Arabia are treated like scum. This because their laws are not firm and do not recognize the human rights and values that is not theirs. In modern countries...firm laws protect the weak, the vulnerable and even the worker doing menial things for the natives. Why we assert that the Judaeo-Christian framework preserves a democratic context even superior to what the Greeks started is simply because there are no inherent attributions or rights just for being born in a certain place or nation. Meanng....You are not a Christian just because your parents or society is Christian. You need to first understand what it means to be a Christian when you are old enough and then understand who Jesus is and why He died on the Cross. Then you consciously make the decision to allow Him into your life...or not. This is not so in Muslim societies and certainly not so in traditional African societies including the Yoruba ones. Second off...Paul may be human. But Jesus Christ certainly is not merely human like Paul. He is both Human and God. You can debate this....but for those who placed their faith in Him for Salvation...were able to supernaturally overcome a lot of sinful habits, addictions, suicidal tendencies, and all manners filthy and bad habits in a way no ordinary human will power could do. Further to that....so many miracles attributed to the name of Jesus even today and supported by scientific evidence just goes further to prove that Jesus is not another ordinary man. The third big mistake you made is trying to conflate or merge together two different realities. The reality of Free Will and that of Predestination. The concept of Predestination can be controversial especially in Calvinist circles today sicne it presupposes God overrides human free will. Ok. Let us put it this way. God is Omniscient. HE knows everything from beginning to end and end to beginning. So He knows the outcome of each human choice before we make them. Yes. HOWEVER....humans are not omniscient. Try to track your thoughts even for One full minute. There is no way you can predict what would occupy your mind even in the next 30 seconds. The more you try to force yourself to think of only Apples or Oranges....the more you see powerful forces in your mind forcing you to think of something else. And being human prone to sin....you may even find yourself thinking about something forbidden for you to even think about. If you are married and you tell yourself....I want to only think of loving tender thoughts about my wife for the next 5 minutes. Guess what? Massive Powerful Contrary thoughts will begin to push your mind to think of other women and might even begin to make you lust after them. The real issue here is that there are certain things that are just our of your control. Yes...people are free to do whatever they want. But noble ideals like Goodness and being Good forces us to think from a higher realm that separates us from animals. It is here we simply realize that we are unable to be Truly and Honestly be REALLY GOOD the way God is. We fail!! Yet...God knows the outcome of each of our choices in the future even before we made them. And He also knows if we ever respond to the inner prompting to seek for help. There are many teens who grow up in their chaotic years feeling depressed. Many who sought refuge in the Church and prayer and placed their hopes in Jesus Christ...got freed. Others who did not respond to the prompting to surrender their lives to God....simply yielded to those darker forces which made them quit their lives. So even before these teenagers were born....God forknew which of them will seek help and get freed from their suicidal thoughts and those who will surrender to the forces of darkness and die. But did God predestine each outcome? God certainly DRAWS people to Himself through Jesus Christ. But he gives the power to respond by faith to the human being. The choice remains yours. But I will say that in some very unique situations....when you have worried Granmother or mother praying for her child or granchild to be saved....God could honor prayers made of faith to SUPERNATURALLY intervene and do something drastic to get the attention of someone in a way that certainly "tilts" their decisions towards the right direction. Towards Him. In many Muslim nations and yes even Iran....many people are having visions about Jesus Christ and this shatters their world view in ways that affects them in their real life. This is why Iran has so many underground Churches with people turning to Christ. Just like China. Can you recall the challenge I made to you earlier? Try to think of something Holy and Heavenly for Five minutes....yet you find images of pornnography, vanity and all types of fleshly lusts dominate your mind the more? In very simple terms....those distracting thoughts and emotions that are trying to affect your mind and free will are not mere outcomes of natural urges in most cases. The more you desire Good...the more Evil entrenches and fixes deep in your heart as if telling you...how dare you try to be better. Those dark forces tilting you away towards EVil are most times personifed by who the Bible calles "The Adversary", "The Opposer" or "The Accuser of the Brethren". Satan exists as a Being with a poweful force to PUSH YOU AWAY from anything to do with God and to do with Good. Who created Satan? Lucifer was not created to be evil. Yet the moment he began to desire the Glory that should go to God for himself...he fell and the dark selfish forces within him took over him. Read the whole of Ezekiel 28, and Isaiah 14:12 The reason why God is Good is because He selflessly loves His creation and holds everything together by His Power and Love. He proves His love for His creation by dying on the Cross to save them. Satan the adversary is busy not only being selfish but also making sure the entire mankind live entirely driven by same selfish desires and self-destructive hate that pushes one far away from God. Good and Evil exists and are so powerful in the real world because GOD and Satan exist. |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by ObiPandora: 9:12pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
Before Iran it was Iraq then Libya then Afghanistan. You n your entire household are doomed to perish of foolishness. SlavaUkraini: |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by SlavaUkraini: 9:54pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
ObiPandora:In like manner... You and your entire bastard generation will continue to wallow in Stupidity and Poverty forever Useless head slammer. |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by SlavaUkraini: 9:57pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
[quote author=BOBAN2710 post=132634182][/quote]Yes your parents can relate to that insult. |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by HydraFeeds(m): 10:05pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
J3susFr3ak:You're right about Socrates being killed for having different religious opinions but that doesn't invalidate my position that Rome was taunted as a liberal country as even posited in your response and modern Western countries draw their inspiration from Rome . To talk about free speech in Christianity, Protestantism came to be from protest against the Catholic church and led to several deaths of fellow Christians . Christians talk about persecution when they're in small number but turn to terror when they are in high number ,if Christianity supports free speech ,they won't abuse traditional worshippers or burn their statues or go against pioneers like Charles Darwin and Galileo etc . Racism is not exclusive to Arab nations only ,there's racism in US ,UK etc , Argentina wiped out it's black population and Israel injected Ethiopian Jews in a bid to exterminate them . In fact there was racial classism in US not until people like MLK fought for their rights . Whatever way you described being Christian is subjective because when they're counting Christians in the world ,they won't ask for other parameters except if you're a praticing Christian and I can bet that almost all Christians in the world today are born into Christian family,if they're born into Muslim family or Jewish family or Buddhism family ,that will be the religion they will be praticing. As many people are converting to Christianity even in unfriendly environment to the extent of hiding underground to worship doesn't mean people are not converting from Christianity to other religions or becoming irreligious. If Paul is human like us ,why should I hold his word as standard when there's no "peer review" or accurate analysis of what he said when God is universal ? Also ,there are many people that claim to be a God or were referred to as God so Jesus doesn't have that sole title,in fact , Alexander the great was called God or son of God ,the title he got from Egypt ,the same Egypt Jesus was taken to .Alexander the great existed about 300 years before Jesus and he's the first person to have claim to conquer the world which he actually did literally . Another recent example is Mobutu Sese Koko and there tons of them . You said good and evil exist because God and Satan exists which indirectly means that Satan is responsible for evil but God said in Isaiah that he created good and evil ? I asked you a question which you've not answer,if Satan is responsible for sin ,what was responsible for Lucifer to sin in the fist place, since sin didn't exist before Lucifer attempted to overthrow God and subsequently becoming Satan . If God is Omniscient,he knows everything,if he knows that man will choose A for instance ,what's the importance of free will since the outcome is already predetermined ? Because whatever man choose ,God already knows ,also what makes a man to choose A if not for his brain ,who created the brain ? If God is Omniscient,he knows that this particular man he wants to create will end up in hell fire ,why did he end up creating that man ? If you said he sent Jesus to give chance for redemption,then you will say a man has choice to choose be redemption and destruction ,if God doesn't know what man will choose then he's not Omniscient. If he's omniscient,he would have known from the beginning that this man he wants to create will sin and will not accept redemption. People life could get changed by anything ,for instance ,most western countries are less religious compared to us in Nigeria and Africa but they have better society,most rich people don't believe in any religion but they're doing ok . There's UN charter for human rights. Morality is subjective based on exposures and environments . For instance polygamy is not bad in Nigeria but homosexual is , homosexualism is not bad in western nations but polygamy is bad . Alcohol for instance is bad for health same as cigarette and medical outreach can caution people not religion. It takes a conscious mind to live "good" . Several religious people are committing crimes and getting involved in "petty sins" like lying ,stealing everyday . Even in the same religion ,there are different sects that practice different doctrines ,that's to tell us that morals , behaviours and characters are subjective and countries with less religious beliefs are cooler than overly religious countries . God is created by human understanding of what they observe that's why the idea of God is incomplete or imperfect in all religions. |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by INJESUSNAME: 10:22pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
TruthU87:Those terrorists that entered Israel on October 7 will be at peace, right? |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by INJESUSNAME: 10:29pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
Mrfeel:does he or she know the meaning of PTSD? |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by Tommydare(m): 10:38pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
So, all the deaths wey we dey hear na religion cause am Armed robbers carry gun shoot another person na religion cause am? U put poison for your fellow man food just because u dey envy am na religion cause am? U use your fellow man for ritual na religion tell you make you use am? Small argument, you don stab person knife or bottle na religion cause am Wetin you dey talk? If human can abide by religious doctorines and rules, this world go better. Don't steal, don't kill, don't fornicate, love your neighbor as yourself etc. But since human can easily embraced evil than good, it's very difficult for them to abide by the rules. HydraFeeds: |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by HydraFeeds(m): 10:52pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
Tommydare:Well human ritualis caused by religion. I get your point that several things cos war and killings but it's religion that make people to support genocide or terrorism . Religion adds to division of the world . Context matters and this is about Middle East . People have been living before Judeo-Christian religions which means that all laws and morality are subjective to collective or imperial understanding. Example,homosexualism is considered bad in Africa but polygamy is not while it's other way round in western countries. Good and evil are subjective and could be defined outside religion. |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by J3susFr3ak: 10:54pm On Oct 28, 2024*. Modified: 11:12pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
HydraFeeds:I am begnning to think you are a Humanist or some one opting for some type of syncretic universal religion for clarity. Those will fail. There are no moral relativsms in a world where true beliefs are defined by Absolutes. The real world that is. I cannot wake up tommorow and convince myself that I am a woman, the ground is the sky and the moon is the sun. No. Certain physical laws are so fixed and consistent. Certain Spirtual Laws are so fixed and consistent also. It has been consistently proven through out the ages that these Supernaural events conform to the identity of a single Person's name: Humans are healed. Demons are cast out. Peace is restored. Wisdom is found. ---through the name of Jesus Christ. Even the stability and economic progress experienced by more mature democracies (it will shock you to realize) is as a result of their prolonged exposure to Judaeo-Christian thought and values...the same values they also take for granted today. The moral and societal ills you mentioned is noteworthy...but I dare say to you that today, if you have a very good case, an American or European could be sentenced to jail term if found guilty based on their laws--favoring even you. This is not so in Arab, Chinese or some other country with less exposure to Christian values. Faith. Love. Truth. Hope. Good. Salvation. Those are not just abstract ideas. Those are qualities of a Person. And Jesus was bold enough to assert those attributes to Himsef ("I am the Way, the Truth and the Life...no one Comes to the Father except through Me." --John 14:6) No other religion or faith has a central Person making such a claim. If Jesus says I am the Ressurection and the Life....and goes ahead to prove the same....then it means there is something much more to what He is sating. Why is Death a result of the curse from sin? Why did Jesus defeat death by being sinless? And why is He qualified to advocate for humans as the High Priest in Heaven who sympathizes with our weaknesses since He was also tempted in all points too like we are yet remained sinless? Yes God is Omniscient. He knows every choice every human yet born in a thousand years will make even before those humans exist. He know the choices you will mke tomorrow too even before you make them. But do you know why He would not stop people from making those choices even if those choices are bad and evil. Free will is actually a "test". A Turing test for not just a moral inclination....but a test for what the heart truly truly loves. God is Love. Meaning....He cannot FORCE you to Love Him. He gives you a choice. Why did God put the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil in the Garden of Eden? Because he is simply allowing the creation called Man to make a choice each and everyday to prove their love for Him by the simple test of obedience: NOT eating of that fruit. However, you know how the story goes....Satan inhabits a snake and helps to tilt the first humans away from God by disobeying that test. Did God know Adam and Eve will fail. Yes. Did God know Lucifer will be Satan....yes. Did God know the first humans will be tested and will fail. Yes. Why did He allow all that? If you have ever read the Book of Job and notice (including some other parts of Scripture) where Satan is allowed to come before God's throne and make a stronge case before God and the angels....it will shock you to realize that way before human courts ever existed in their current forms to allow a Judge listen to an Accuser and a Defendent....the court in heaven today functions in almost a similar manner. In the court of heaven right now....every single human soul is presented before God. If that person had surrendered their life to Jesus Christ...He being the Advocate will defend that soul from certain destruction. But Satan the Accuser is also building a case with all your faults and guilts to make sure you remain condemned. Interestingly, can you find the Advocate/Accuser duality that is actually rigged in your favour only if you repent and believe in Christ....present in any other world belief system? No. Yes God permits certain evils to happen (referring to the Scripture you quoted) but it appears that Satan is the principal agent executing that evil like it was in the case of Job and even Paul. Satan wanted to prove a point that all humans are selfish and evil like him when misfortune befalls them. God wanted to prove otherwise. But even though Satan is allowed by God to execute those evil tasks.....God makes the ground rules and puts limitations on what Satan can or cannot do to a human being, family, community or nation. Why does Satan exist? Think of it this way...just the way God must have given the first humans a simple rule to prove their love for Him....the angelic beings must have also received a similar rule to prove their devotion for God. I do not fully know what that is. But reading from Scripture it started with pride. Lucifer's beauty and position elevated him above other angels and he was expected to receive all those praises from all of God's creation and simply like a mirror channel those worship and praises to God and God alone. But the moment Lucifer chose to turn those praises and worship that should go to God only to Himself....God withdrew His glory for him and then he turned very evil. The angels who behaved like he did also turned to be like him. Now you know why coups in many countries still happen. The desire for power and glory. God is omniscient....yet He allows thnigs and situations to naturally play out for our sakes. Because we still do not know everything and are so limited. And in this all...He proves that He is faithful and still full of Love. Peter thought he would die fighting to protect Christ from arrest, hmiliation and death. Yet Christ told Peter that he will betray him after a rooster crows three times. This was after telling Peter that Satan had actually requested for Peter to be able to "sift him as wheat". Do you know what all that means? Jesus being God knew the future and also knew the outcome of Peter's choices when faced with a fiery trial. Just the way Satan approached Job and asked for permission to put Job in a critcal test....Satan also approached Jesus and asked for the permission to put Peter in a critical test of his faith. In the hierarchy of Divine Power...who do you think Satan fears most and will even ask for permisiion before daring to unleash any evil? Put Jesus to the test too and ask Him to prove Himself to you. He surely will. |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by Tommydare(m): 11:15pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
Without religion, people will always and forever be divided. In opinions, ideas, vision, perception, languages, cultures, norms and tradition. One man's meat is another man's poison. Na like this we dey do for our village, na taboo somewhere else. Genocide, terrorism are birthed by several reasons. It's not only religion. The rituals are good things but what humans used it to do is what makes it bad. Codeine, cannabis are drugs meant for one purpose or the other but can you see how we used them today? We don turn them to bad based on the way we used them. A bottle of mineral isn't bad untill it is used to stab your fellow man. Phone has no harm, but when it enter man hand, they can use it to destroy their fellow men lives. Words that we speak are harmless but the way we used them determines if it's harmful or not. Everything is down on human. Religion is harmless but it's the way we used it. No religious books support evils. No where dem write am in the Bible that we can kill our fellow man, or steal or hate or furnicate. I repat, with or without religion, don't expect humans to be united. We have individual differences and this extends to our family, our society, town, State, country, continents and the whole world generally. HydraFeeds: |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by Maysdevices(f): 11:21pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by Maysdevices(f): 11:23pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
TruthU87:Support the terrorized in your country and stop mouthing off about things you know nothing about All you know is what they tell you |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by HydraFeeds(m): 11:48pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
J3susFr3ak:I believe in higher power or existence of God and I believe that anyone irrespective of his religion can have access to this metaphysical power and having a different religion or process doesn't make him or her evil but most supernatural claims are fake or delusions. I also believe that most human activities cannot be changed by prayer but by individuals resources, activities like exam ,games , businesses etc . Empires have risen,flourish and fallen before the advent of Judeo-Christian religions which simply means that these events are not brought by these religions . China is said to have surpassed USA economy now even with less debt and they're more Buddhists . People have seek for hope when they're in despair and religion doesn't have exclusive rights to give people hope ,love etc . In fact religion is taking advantage of people,clergy will tell members to pray when they need help but ask members to contribute when clergy needs help ,several clergy live lavishly from tithes and donations while members are in penury . If you see someone that needs help and you help him ,you didn't help him because of religion but because of humanity which means that human are capable of love ,hope and other goodness without religion directives . In fact ,many irreligious billionaires donate more while several billionaire clergy are misers. There are certain laws that guides our universe ,that's different. In spirituality or morality ,that's subjective and the way God relate with individuals is based on their capabilities. Anybody can make claims ,that's why we have several charlatans everywhere and that's why we have peer review process before anything theory can become law . I'm not saying what Jesus said is not true but how can we verify but not rely on single source? And most of the thing you spoke about were only written in the Bible (Bible was written and collated by people like us which means there's tendency for infirmities,you can google council of Nicea for further information) and books like book of Barnabas that wasn't included says Jesus didn't die and rise while Quran another religious book says he didn't die and rise . We also know that there's temporal death and several people in history have claimed to have died and risen what the Yorubas call "Apaji" . If God knows that's Adam and Eve will eat the fruit ,he shouldn't have put the fruit there in the first place ,if he did ,he's responsible for their fall and they don't deserve punishment. Men make decisions with their brain or heart which is created by God ,which means God is responsible for every decision therefore invalidating free will again . If God knows that Mr A will be a sinner and won't accept redemption but went on to create him ,then God is responsible for such person . The idea that God tests men to see the level of their faith invalidate omniscience because God should have known the outcome already . Pride is a sin which enabled Lucifer to commit , without Satan pride won't exist which means this is a paradox except God put pride into Satan . If Lucifer could rebel in heaven and attempted coup,then it means that heaven is not perfect and things could go wrong there . |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by goslowgoslow(m): 12:20am On Oct 29, 2024 |
Proudlyomonna:Nairaland moderators I am bringing this to your notice. Rule 2! |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by goslowgoslow(m): 12:24am On Oct 29, 2024 |
Proudlyomonna:You just surface from no where to start cursing me and saying stupid and meaningless things. I know that you weren't raised properly and you are a kid. that is mentally deranged. All your curses goes back to your mother and father that didn't train you well. |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by J3susFr3ak: 1:01am On Oct 29, 2024*. Modified: 1:25am On Oct 29, 2024 |
HydraFeeds:Even the current heaven is not perfect....Revelations 12:7 mentions a war to happen in heaven too--where Satan will definitely lose. And this is why a New Heaven and a new Earth needs to be created again. Death is a common denominator in all cultures. The answer to Death. The answer to the causes of Death. And the humiliation of Death by the very Death of Jesus strongly asserts that there is no other escape from Death and its dire consequences outside of Christ. No other belief system has a real substantial solution for this tragedy. Choosing "No belief" itself is not a solution. A materialistic mindset can only get you so far. In the end it is pointless if it only seeks to glorify the self. Even when it is designed to serve others....seeking glory from serving others becomes a sin too. And death sort of mocks each human attempt of material conquest of human conception of idealistic "good".. Those you toiled for may even ungratefully curse youin the end. If you doubt me....ask Jesus Himself too. Though His own death was unique and predicted. Yes. Anyone can make claims. But no one can provide foolproof certainity of victory over death. You could be sucessfull in your career and business and life generally....but like this Israeli pilot who committed suicide...one little demon burrowing into your mind and emotions can drive you crazy to do the impossible. No other Being or Entity has Power over these negative forces of darkness. But Jesus does. Years ago I watched a story on TV about how this Yoruba person who was a son of a Shrine Priest or something,--he met a woman (I am not sure if she was Yoruba) when he was a student in the United States in the 70s/80s. She told him she was a Christian and I think she said something that really offended him. According to him he decided to spend the ENTIRE NIGHT pronocuncing curses on the woman. The next day he met her smiling and he was shocked. This is because all his curses ALWAYS WORKED before. He asked her if anything happened to her the night before...she only smiled and said nothing happened to her and she slept like a baby. She trusted in Jesus Christ who protected her. And this event convinced this Yoruba person familiar with the dark forces to repent and give his life to Christ. This was a higher Power than what he had known. There are things I have persnoally experienced that have also challenged and changed my own view about Jesus Christ. I am not a Pastor seeking gain. I also wanted to be so very logical to the point of only admitting hard material evidence as the only admission of Truth. Not until Christ proved to me that there can never be any real Truth without Him. Reality as we know it is not merely bound by physical laws and processes. The Scripture we take for granted can overrule even physical proceses and laws when done in the name of Christ to honor Him alone. There are many real life conversion accounts like the Yoruba guy above. You are asking for peer reviewed accounts. The Bible was written by real life witnesses to supernatural events done by Jesus acccording to Prpphecy spanning thousands of years. Today, we are also witnesses to the same supernatural events. There are books, websites and Youtube channels dedicated to giving people the opportunity to tell their accounts. Lives tranformed by human witnesses are the superior "peer review" you will ever need. Yes...many charlatans may exist. But we know them by their fruits right? Whom do they desire to serve and glorify most? Themselves and their pockets? Or God. This was what in part provoked so many reformations like the Protestant reformations in the past. The European Church was not its best when it had so much political power. And this is why Evangelical and Pentecostal Churches worldwide today seem to emphasize the personal relationship with God the most...not a dead liturgy. The Lord will always use the humble and willing--so please do not throuw out the baby with the bath water. Ok. The Chinese Economy is in more trouble today than they let you in to know. After the collapse of their gigantic property bubble....so many Chinese have become trapped in a shrinking economy, massive layoffs and unemployment....and no sustainable large markets for their industrial over-capacity. Watch some Youtube channels like China Observer and Joe Bloggs to learn more about this. China needs the US market to grow and thrive but their thirst and desire for what they call "Wolf warrior diplomacy" and the fallout from the National Security Laws has scared off Western investors from that place. De-risking from China is the trend now. Ok...gotta sleep now. It was nice sharing thoughts with you. Hoping something ...even a little got sparked to give Jesus Christ another chance to prove Himself to you. You might become his next living "peer review" for the world to read. |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by bigman001(m): 1:50am On Oct 29, 2024 |
SlavaUkraini:Israelis and Western countries are the real terrorist but hypocrites , religious bigotry and empty brain people like you will always support the ZIonist because the western people have brainwashed your brains that Muslims are terrorist simply because they where not successful in corrupting the Quran the way they have been successful in putting loads of lies and deceits in the Bible, go and learn how to read and write in Hebrew and Aramaic and go read the bible in those Languages , then you will understand more about Christianity and the lies you have been brainwashed to believe. I'm not surprised those who called themselves Christians don't even have the slightest idea Jesus was a Palestine, This they will never say in the Church, rather they will use Galilee which was formerly Palestine. and go educate yourself about Jesus and the palestine people how he loved , healed and even used the palestine as an example to his Jewish Brethens. |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by SlavaUkraini: 2:10am On Oct 29, 2024 |
bigman001:Mugu... When you see your dad, you can call him an empty headed, brainless Nigga... Because he gave birth to a useless stupid Hypocrite... The whole world knows that, Islam = 90% Terrorism. For every 10 Terrorist act, 9 is carried out by a Muslim. Only Hypocritical Terrorists like yourself will want people to believe that Islam is a religion of peace When in fact, it is a useless blood thirsty religion that would send it's followers to Hell. Israel and the West will continue to do the Lord's Work by destroying every trace of Terrorism on the face of the earth... Death to every Terrorist and their Sympathizers on Nairaland. |
| Re: Asaf Dagan: Israeli Airman Commits Suicide, Leaves A Note For His Mother by Mftivi: 5:11am On Oct 29, 2024 |
Righthussle:the Jews are not Christians, the brainwashed Christians in Nigeria and all over the world is another story but Jesus is lord and never called anyone into religion but into true fellowship and exhorted all to love their neighbours as themselves. Non of his teachers condones such killings and blood letting hence you will find believers all over the world who condemns that crimes of the IDF. |
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Armed robbers carry gun shoot another person na religion cause am? U put poison for your fellow man food just because u dey envy am na religion cause am? U use your fellow man for ritual na religion tell you make you use am? Small argument, you don stab person knife or bottle na religion cause am