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Peacecore:
Aswear thank God say i chose d right GOAT o so na laidis wey Pendu fans dey mumu I 4 dey much? right from day 1 I know say Rodri deserve d award more than every other nominee but I was afraid of media marketing which City don't care about, but thank God that the voters don't listen to social media votes. Messi should just do us small favour by deleting every record that Ronaldo still dey hold

mayor1814:
What I've seen about u is that u are just sentimental and likely a Madrid and Ronaldo fan and an anti-messi. First of all, all the time Messi and Ronaldo were winning ballon dor no other players stood a chance. If u a close observer of football without sentiment u will understand that Rodri brilliant and exceptional performance and work rate didn't start recently.


Even the season they won UCL that everyone was hyping haaland it was Rodri that was the main man for city. Rodri , de bruyne, bernado Silva were clearly more important for man city than haaland.


The vini jnr u hyping is fortunate to be in a star studded and ever influential Madrid team. Rodri contributed massively to Spain and man city success winning multiple MVPs. Vini jnr could not do the same for Brazil

Amayabor1:
True. But Carvajal won the euros too. Including winning the champions league, la Liga,. Super cup and super league.

Whichever way one wants to look at it, Carvajal or Vinicius is more deserving of the ballon d'or than Rodri. Except there are other criteria they are using that we don't know of.

Ps: I was actually rooting for Carvajal to win the ballon d'or. He deserves it most.

Amayabor1:
Lol. Watery argument.

Carvajal has been carrying Madrid and Spain for a long time now without him getting his flowers.

First, this ballon d'or is for last season. Limit your arguments to what each player did last season. All these "he has been carrying man city for years now" is inconsequential to the Balloon d'or of 2024. What was the performance of Vinicius, Carvajal and Rodri in this last season? What is the benchmark you would use to judge the performance of these players last season? The stats are staring you all in the eyes but no, sentiment will not allow you all to be fair.

Rodri pass Carvajal for stat and competitions won last season?. But we will give a 2024 award to Rodri because he has been carrying man city for years now. Lol

Almiron:
Leo is unmotivated if he wants too, e go break the goals record.

Amayabor1:
Lol. Watery argument.

Carvajal has been carrying Madrid and Spain for a long time now without him getting his flowers.

First, this ballon d'or is for last season. Limit your arguments to what each player did last season. All these "he has been carrying man city for years now" is inconsequential to the Balloon d'or of 2024. What was the performance of Vinicius, Carvajal and Rodri in this last season? What is the benchmark you would use to judge the performance of these players last season? The stats are staring you all in the eyes but no, sentiment will not allow you all to be fair.

Rodri pass Carvajal for stat and competitions won last season?. But we will give a 2024 award to Rodri because he has been carrying man city for years now. Lol

mayor1814:
Calm down baba... U losing many details. U not focusing on the most important details, u just concerned about facade which vini jnr really represent.

Lookmun:
I repeat, the criteria is not how many trophies you won. Jorghino is a case in point. It is an award that considers a number of factors put together.

1. What did you win as part of your team? Different tournaments carry different weights
2. What was your impact in the teams that you won those key competitions with? A winning team typically would have 5-7 players that are really good. Can you say you were the best of the lot? Because this can be subjective, the Balon d’or award will have to rely on the award of the MVP given for that tournament.

Carvajal may have scored winning goals but he was never MVP. You can’t say he carried teams. The people that really carried Madrid were Vini in the UCL and Bellingham (then also Vini) in laliga. Carvajal was an effective and reliable member of the team. To carry the team means that when you are not there the team looses games and when you return, things come back to normalcy.

Lookmun:
There is not one ballon d’ or winner that won because he was part of a winning team. You have to be the best player in your team in the most important contests. Carvajal was within best 5 which is fair but suggesting that he wins the thing is stretching it.

The rationale is that a player that was most influential in carrying his great team to win deserves the award more than a good team lead player who just happen to be in the best squads.

Amayabor1:
In that case, Vinicius deserves it more than Rodri. The offensive part of Real Madrid has been on the shoulders of Vini for some time now.

Amayabor1:
Lol. Very funny. You expect a defender (Carvajal) to carry a team? How many defenders do you know that have carried a team? Una funny o.

If we are to go by your arguments of number 1 and 2, then vini deserves it more.

Amayabor1:
Lol. Carvajal also represent facade too? Lol.

mayor1814:
In fact I will even say that carvajal has a better shout and nod for the ballon dor award than vini jnr. In terms of work rate I can say carvajal and Rodri are at par. The two players were outstanding for Spain and their respective clubs (Rodri man city and carvajal Madrid).


U ppl are only shouting because u all concentrate on the hype and goals stats of vini jnr. I'm happy award organizers are now appreciating the impact of midfielders and defenders and hopefully goalkeepers too in the future. These are the players that do the cover up and dirty work for attacking players.

Lookmun:
Rodri was MVP in the Euros though and Vini was quiet in the continental competition where they left in QF (I think). Both of them won their domestic leagues. Vini won UCL as the most valuable player while Rodri finished in the semi-finals.

If you look at their numbers also Rodri a defensive midfielder got about a third of the goals of an attacker whilst getting more assists than the attacker. Also he was very good in his primary assignment (the best).

If they had given Vini it would have been fine because it was a close call but Rodri getting more votes than Vini is also very okay. What he did as a defensive midfielder warranted it.

Amayabor1:
My argument has always been that Carvajal deserved that ballon d'or than Rodri or Vinicius.

Carvajal won the euros and almost every club competition with Madrid last season. He was very instrumental to Madrid success. He scored in the champions league final and was the MOTM in that final (as a defender).

If you want to use number of goals scored and general contribution to madrid's success to judge , then give it to Vinicius. That's if you are looking at only club performance. If you are looking at club and country performance, you have to give it to Carvajal.

Which ever criteria one uses, Rodri doesn't deserve it.

Amayabor1:
Go read my previous quotes on this topic. I have always maintained that Carvajal deserves the Ballon d'or over Vinicius or Rodri.

Here is my point; if you want to use total competitions won and overall contribution to team, give Carvajal. There is no competition Rodri won that Carvajal didn't win. But there are competitions Carvajal won that Rodri didn't win. And Carvajal's contribution to Madrid success last season was immense.

But if you want to use number of goals scored and contribution to the team, give Vinicius.

Carvajal deserved that ballon d'or. However, whatever criteria you want to use, one thing is sure; Rodri didn't deserve the ballon d'or.

Lookmun:
If someone leaves the mainstream football and there was no tournament as prominent as the world cop in the current year under review, then it’s possible to go from 1 to below 30.

Peacecore:
You know nothing about football 🤣 stick to children session

Amayabor1:
You know something about football and you believe Rodri deserved the ballon d'or? Lol. All these children wey them born for 2000's.

Amayabor1:
Go read my previous quotes on this topic. I have always maintained that Carvajal deserves the Ballon d'or over Vinicius or Rodri.

Here is my point; if you want to use total competitions won and overall contribution to team, give Carvajal. There is no competition Rodri won that Carvajal didn't win. But there are competitions Carvajal won that Rodri didn't win. And Carvajal's contribution to Madrid success last season was immense.

But if you want to use number of goals scored and contribution to the team, give Vinicius.

Carvajal deserved that ballon d'or. However, whatever criteria you want to use, one thing is sure; Rodri didn't deserve the ballon d'or.

Madups:
so conmebol world cup qualifiers is not part of mainstream football? Keep fooling yourself..