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| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by IbeOkehie: 11:17am On Oct 29, 2024*. Modified: 9:39am On Nov 11, 2024 |
RodgersAkpafu:But it's Black Africans that sold their Black Americans into Slavery in the first place. Sold them to both Arabs AND Europeans. Black Africans should be paying REPARATIONS, not taking up Affirmative Action jobs. That would be justice. And what did Black Africans accomplish with all the money they earned from selling their own people? At least a White Supremacist can point to the accomplishments of their own race. Ancient Rome had a better road network than Nigeria has today. There's still drivable Roman Empire roads all over Europe today, even in that UK. Hey, what is the population of Negroes in the lands of Arabia today? Yeah, all the Negroes sold into slavery by their cousins, what happened to them? Arab Supremacists knew better than White Supremacists. Ingratitude is a Black African thing, so they didn't risk it. Imagine the spectacle of Negroes rioting over police brutality and discrimination in Mecca today. 😉 ![]() The White Supremacists are learning. Better get ready. At least the Pakistanis have nukes. Wetin you get ![]() Gerrard59:But the African Negroe doesn't have the ABILITY to build any liveable collective. I challenge you to show me contrary evidence. The major skill of African Negroes is to exploit the benevolence of other races. Prove me wrong. This is a race that will SELL their own into Slavery and then go compete with the same slaves for the slop left by the slave masters. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE, this is the bottom level of human behavior!!! Good Luck to Nigerians. |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by RodgersAkpafu: 11:25am On Oct 29, 2024 |
IbeOkehie:This guy is still cooning hard Man you suffer from deep rooted inferiority complex I have to tell you upfront You speak of the Arab slavery when you have zero understanding of the differing dynamics between the Arab slave trade and the western own I would have taken my time to break it down for you, but it will be a waste because you won't even understand it, it will fly over your head and you will still rationalise it "Ingratitude is a black man thing so they did not risk it" Coming from a black man ![]() Cooning behaviour at its finest ![]() Why shouldn't black people riot over being treated like vermin? If you are treated poorly, it's your human right to fight against it According to you, black man should accept second hand and second class treatment That's a shame I bet you are one of those who feel so "privileged" to the white man for allowing you live in his midst and that's what informs your proclivity to Always act as their advocate, even against your own people Anyways, Good luck to you sha Thank God many black people, especially on this side of the pond don't reason like you Its not a crime to be a coon, its just nauseating to look at Ciao |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by RodgersAkpafu: 11:29am On Oct 29, 2024 |
Man this is becoming more and more painful to read and watch ![]() |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by IbeOkehie: 11:31am On Oct 29, 2024*. Modified: 12:37pm On Nov 02, 2024 |
RodgersAkpafu:It should be, especially since it's TRUE. The TRUTH hurts. Good Luck to Nigerians. |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by Goke7: 11:32am On Oct 29, 2024 |
RodgersAkpafu:We always need to set that record straight to stop the deception about the ownership of North America. Any Caucasian there who wants their country back should migrate back to Europe where they originally came from. The same goes with Australia and New Zealand. |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by RodgersAkpafu: 11:35am On Oct 29, 2024 |
IbeOkehie:Nope it's not true The only truth is that black people need to step up and develop better, which we are trying to do (at least during my sojourn in corporate Nigeria before I left, I was privy to seeing the amazing things young Nigerians can do and make , especially in the VC / PE space and even Fintech But that does mean that black folks are not deserving of treatment like human beings , or they should be "grateful" just for sharing spaces with Caucasians, or they should accept ill treatment from anyone |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by RodgersAkpafu: 11:36am On Oct 29, 2024 |
Goke7:yup But IbeOkehie will defend the right of Caucasian expansion with his last breath When you have minorities who think like him, that makes the "fight" more difficult |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by IbeOkehie: 12:09pm On Oct 29, 2024 |
RodgersAkpafu:LOL, let's try a little more TRUTH. I know it's painful but try and read through. Among these nations, which one generally treats NEGROE migrants or immigrants best? We can use MURDER or riots as one measure or whichever you please. 1) South Africa 2) Botswana 3) Germany 4) UK 5) USA. 6) Japan This one doesn't quite fit the list but I'll still ask...do the White Supremacists in the UK treat the Igbo better or worse than the Yoruba do in Lagos? Which one does the average Igbo man prefer? ![]() Good Luck to Nigerians! |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by Goke7: 12:30pm On Oct 29, 2024 |
RodgersAkpafu:Don’t blame him much he’s speaking from deep hurt and pain and I can understand, the average African have that deep sense of anger when he travels or migrates to the western world and wonders what’s wrong with being black. But as soon as you get over it you begin to see things differently. How soon is the issue, I have been there but didn’t stay there too long. |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by Sepukku: 2:54pm On Oct 29, 2024 |
His immigrant credentials should be revoked regardless of what he has contributed. Once you break the law. You must pay the cost. Na wetin America talk nah! |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by Sepukku: 2:57pm On Oct 29, 2024 |
IbeOkehie:Dem don give you Visa that is why you don forget history. So other enslaved people throughout history were only captured by foreigners and no one sold them. SMH |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by IbeOkehie: 3:18pm On Oct 29, 2024 |
Sepukku:Better than a visa to Zambia!!! I would take South Africa because...well you know, but not Zambia or any other Black African dominated Zoo. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-36092917 Two people were burned to death on Monday during xenophobic violence in Zambia's capital, Lusaka, police have said in a statement.That's Black African Negroes at their best. Go ahead and keep fighting White Supremacists when Igbo people can't even sleep peacefully among the Yoruba in Lagos. Denial is a river in Egypt.... ![]() Good Luck to Nigerians. |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by Sepukku: 4:00pm On Oct 29, 2024 |
IbeOkehie:Spoken like a true Uncle Tom. Don't worry Xenophobia never hit you yet, when it does your eye go clear. IbeOkehie:You know when someone is very slow when you see them use Tautology to emphasis a self hating agenda. Why do you mention Black and negro in the same expression when they mean absolutely the same thing. No wonder you run comot naija to white man land. |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by IbeOkehie: 4:05pm On Oct 29, 2024 |
Sepukku: ![]() Exactly. I leave the Zoo to those who belong there. At least I was smart enough to get out while the going was good. I'm just waiting for the Igbo vs Yoruba fight to ignite in Lagos. It's coming soon, that's for sure. I''d rather take my chances with the White Supremacists. Good Luck to Nigeria. |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by Sepukku: 4:11pm On Oct 29, 2024 |
IbeOkehie:Nigerians have fought each other before and we are still here so don't worry we will still be here after the aftermath. Make you dey go. |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by IbeOkehie: 6:00pm On Oct 29, 2024 |
Gerrard59:This message has to be emphasized. It's best to know who is serving your REAL interests and who isn't, that's one of the prime skills for survival. It's AMAZING that Black Africans, I'm not talking African Americans, I mean Black Africans, can have this level of hubris. Someone tell me WHY there's no demand for Arab reparations? Sepukku:In Rwanda the Tutsi & Hutu tell themselves the same thing Good Luck to Nigerians. |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by Sepukku: 6:13pm On Oct 29, 2024 |
IbeOkehie:And the Rwanda's are still here. Olodo! |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by RodgersAkpafu: 6:35pm On Oct 29, 2024 |
IbeOkehie:There is no demand for the reparations because 1. Most Arab states you see today are new states Pykos Sykes (edit, i went to check the correct spelling, its Picos Sykes) agreement is what created those states you see in the middle east, most of them So they were not even countries, or in charge of their destinies at d time 2. The state that would have been ripe to ask reparations from (the Ottomans) have long collapsed.Atarturk was the last ottoman But the empire is gone, and its wealth evaporated 3. The victims of the slavery are long dead ot assimilated into the larger society (like the Iraqis and Yemenis of African descent who are black) There is no significant presence of distinct black people The above is why you don't hear as much calls for reparations in Brazil because they have largely been mixed up and assimilated, not sticking out or segregated against like you see the Americans did 4. Arab states did not colonise and brutally extract resources from Africa Berlin conference style They were heartless slave raiders who sold people off and took their cut They did not have the organisation, state sanction of sophistication to conduct it on the level that the westerners did I did an extensive study on this in my uni days Very interesting history I must add Now I am not holding brief for the Arabs in fact they have not even been in control of their destiny for most of the last 400 years (it was a shuffle between the Ottomans and the Anglo French axis of evil) So who are you really gonna ask for reparations when it was rag tag? Now I am not holding brief for then I'm just having a discourse |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by IbeOkehie: 7:06pm On Oct 29, 2024 |
RodgersAkpafu:When I read this kind of bold evasion of history, I have to assume whoever tells it is indeed holding brief for the evildoers. On the other hand, I'm not holding brief for White Supremacists ![]() There's no significant population of Negroes in Arabia because their custom was to CASTRATE the Black African male slaves and then work them to death. OK? That's the reason. In my esteemed opinion, the Arabs and the Black African SLAVE SELLERS should be paying reparations BECAUSE of the OUTCOMES of their participation in the Slave Trade. Black Americans are RICHER and have higher HDI than Nigerians for reasons you know very well. ![]() You owe me $1 for that lesson. Good Luck to Nigeria. |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by RodgersAkpafu: 7:23pm On Oct 29, 2024 |
IbeOkehie:I know of paragraph 2 very well But do you know WHY THEY WERE CASTRATED JN THE FIRST PLACE ? i bet $1that you don't know And I didn't mention that part because it is irrelevant to the discourse at least in this context I mean, you don't have anything to say about the other things that I said ? Well, if we can track down the Slave sellers (largely killed off due to Ottoman/IbnSaud /western incursions, leaving no trace of the merchants who benefitted from it It's actually a good argument to have Arabs paying reparations Its just not practicable because the current states in the middle east are mostly less than 100 years at best 100 and something years (with the exception of the Persians who did not participate in the Slave Trade per se) It's actually a good discussion to have, but because of the inpracticality of it, its not a thing Again, WHY do you think they were castration the black folks ? I'm sure u may not know But I'll say it They were being castrated because EUNUCHS were in high demand those days Castrated men were in specific demand as a fetishism thing It has little to do with them not wanting blacks breeding in Arabia like many erroneously say Eunuchs attracted a huge price And as businessmen they did their thing The Ottomans also inherited that bad behaviour from the Roman empire And Eunuchs held some level of status in the ottoman empire and they came in black and white |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by RodgersAkpafu: 7:39pm On Oct 29, 2024 |
RodgersAkpafu:I forgot to add....... Eunuchs (well some of them) were the ones watching over Oga's oloshos Oga will prefer to buy Eunuchs from slave markets so that when they bring him to watch over his hoes Bobo won't be giving Ogas oloshos woto woto ![]() .you know how insecure those sultans were in those days The thought of another man chopping their kpomo drives them mental They had black and white Eunuchs but for some strange reasons Ottomans preferred the black ones maybe because of their novelty compared to the white skin ones |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by IbeOkehie: 7:56pm On Oct 29, 2024 |
RodgersAkpafu:Holding brief and rationalizing evil done by murderous Arabs. Good Luck to Nigerians |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by RodgersAkpafu: 8:07pm On Oct 29, 2024 |
IbeOkehie:You see your life now lol ![]() where am I rationalising? I'm just telling you as it is..... Slavery was never a good thing But saying Arab slavers (Ottomans actually) castrated the black slaves is not true They bought the eunuchs from the Slave traders like that And Eunuchs were treated better, on average than the slaves shipped off to the Americas upon entering the ottoman empire in many cases (all these are documented) But upon being picked up by the raiders and transported into the Sahara, them see shege pro max Okay lemme ask you Who do you want to ask for reparations from Even the westerners that it is more traceable, its very impracticable to do , talk more of jaga jaga middle east ? bad is bad whether done by Arab raiders or Whjte slave merchants |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by Gerrard59(m): 2:44am On Oct 30, 2024 |
Goke7:lol I wish you guys luck when you try to dissociate humans from tribalism when push comes to shove. |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by Gerrard59(m): 2:48am On Oct 30, 2024 |
RodgersAkpafu:We know what happens when there is a White Flight within an area. Even Nigerian immigrants have mentioned they prefer to live in white-dominated areas (that is the reason they relocated in the first place) because of how things are performed there. You have mentioned how Bradford is when you visited and saw the stark differences between areas where immigrants from certain regions dominate and where whites congregate. We will be here to witness the transformation of lives and policies within the next decade or two. |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by Gerrard59(m): 3:50am On Oct 30, 2024 |
RodgersAkpafu:Well, unfortunately, private entrepreneurship does not solve good governance nor does it mean they make the right political choices. After all, many so-called educated Nigerians campaigned and voted for Buhari in 2015 because he told them "there is no subsidy", "a fight against Boko Haram is a fight against the north" and "I would phight kwarruption". I sincerely doubt those same young Nigerians are intelligent enough to contribute to a functioning Nigeria. But that does mean that black folks are not deserving of treatment like human beings , or they should be "grateful" just for sharing spaces with Caucasians, or they should accept ill treatment from anyoneInhumane treatment is bad. But what are you going to do about it when the natives change the laws? Bar you from sensitive positions? Confiscate your assets? Deport your people enmass (The Labour Party currently does this)? The only power black people should have is wealth so that they talk back when others are talking or hit back at such actions as the Chinese did when the EU increased levies on Chinese EVs into Europe. That is what wealth does - it gives one power. and that wealth has to be in Africa - home to more black people than anywhere else. |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by Goke7: 7:47am On Oct 30, 2024 |
Gerrard59:So the things we hate and condemn back home in Nigeria we should support and hail in the western world because we are from poor Africa |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by RodgersAkpafu: 10:37am On Oct 30, 2024*. Modified: 11:03am On Oct 30, 2024 |
Gerrard59:Right I mentioned Bradford But there is also Blackpool (I've been there too) Bradford is majority pakistani Blackpool is majority white And they are both shitholes, you know the common denominator between Blackpool and Bradford regardless of the racial mix ? There is a common denominator, and it has nothing to do with race. On the other hand, Manchester is a very very diverse area with minority dominated areas that are well run and very neat Why is minority run neighbourhood and area nice in Manchester and the one in Bradford a wasteland Okonjo Iweala neighbourhood in the DMV area is majority black and is very well run Guess what? Her neighbourhood is not the only neighbourhood that is black predominated and well run Fayette and Buckhead and other upscale black areas are also popping in the ATL area, ATL is a hub for black professionals and they have nice upscale areas predominantly black ATL sef is predominantly black sef Black areas are not all hoods and dysfunctional the same way White areas are not all white trash trailer park dysfunctions My own area is very well diverse and its well run as well. As a matter of policy, I don't live in predominant White areas (that reason why I rejected a very nice job in Norwich, can't live there ) The lie that minorities cannot sustain well run societies is a White Supremacist talking point, and it's a disgrace that black dummies have bought it to, and subscribed to such thinking. To some others, they just like being around places where they are the only blacks in the midst of white folks because of inferiority complex ![]() Again, the tide is against them Just yesterday they released the data that Englabd and Wales have had the worst fertility rates record in history ![]() Tears surplus everywhere, and trust me to add salt to the injury ![]() |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by RodgersAkpafu: 10:46am On Oct 30, 2024 |
As much as I don't like some behaviours some Pakistanis have, One thing I really love about Pakistanis is that they don't suffer from coonery or self destructive thinking They are ready to burn down this country of the country messes up with them, and they have demonstrated their ability to do so since the 70s Black man go dey rationalise poor treatment He go say na because my country of origin na sheethole, so make I just manage National Front tried to "try them " in the past, and the aftermath was a warning to NEVER try then again Far right fellows tried to try them in Birmingham recently, with what they were dealt with, I'm sure they will think twice before trying them again ![]() But look at the Chris Kaba situation, and how a good number of black ppl are talking rubbish and cooning ![]() Rationalising that Chris was a bad person who deserved to die the way he did , not thinking of how the circumstances could have been them That's why the Met will manhandle a black person but think twice before manhandling Pakistanis Because they know what will happen, and it will be very unpleasant So they just leave them alone and not harass them Anyways let me borrow Ibe slang Good luck ro black people |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by Goke7: 1:15pm On Oct 30, 2024 |
RodgersAkpafu: I am one of those that never believed that the black race has not brought anything meaningful to the table globally. That’s a very big fat lie. The modern developmental story of the US and the uk can never be complete without the major contributions from black commonwealth nations. For example if the uk govt can’t try it let them allow air peace to start landing in Heathrow and see the effect it will have on BA or Virgin. And if anyone complained of poor services from Air peace those other airlines don’t they faulter too? The data of how much money from Africa that has entered the west in terms of business, education and all forms of immigration is mind boggling. That view that the black race don’t have much to offer is stale jor and an old play book. Yes we have challenges where we can do better in the continent but to say we don’t offer much that’s never acceptable |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by Gerrard59(m): 5:10pm On Oct 30, 2024 |
RodgersAkpafu:Poverty. Why is minority run neighbourhood and area nice in Manchester and the one in Bradford a wastelandImpressive, but I am not surprised though as I know Atlanta to be a majority black area and has one of the strongest upper-middle class black neighbourhoods in the US. Those in Texas and Maryland should be included. My own area is very well diverse and its well run as well. As a matter of policy, I don't live in predominant White areas (that reason why I rejected a very nice job in Norwich, can't live there )So, why have they been unable to replicate the same in their dominant environment? The UK and US are still white dominated. To some others, they just like being around places where they are the only blacks in the midst of white folks because of inferiority complexSometimes, na high cost of living especially considering the majority of the blacks in the UK live within the Southeast region (where London is). But yes, I somewhat sympathise with black folks who live in such areas sha. Again, the tide is against themAll their cries are pointless if they don't procreate. Although it is a global phenomenon as even Iran, Saudi Arabia and Indonesia have experienced falling fertility rates. But for people who lament so much about immigration, they should get into the oza room and do the needful! |
| Re: "Elon Musk Was An Illegal Worker When He Came To The US" - Joe Biden by Gerrard59(m): 5:19pm On Oct 30, 2024 |
Goke7:I am Igbo and I have stated here that Igbos should be mindful of how they interact with the natives in Lagos and elsewhere. To be honest though, I don't really see racism as I am Igbo and I live in a wealthy country. An instance is how Deborah Yakubu Samuel was roasted to death. However, her killers were released for a baseless reason. The Italian man who murdered a Nigerian because the latter wooed his woman has been sentenced to 20 years imprisonment. Apparently, black lives matter more in non-black countries than in their dominant environment. Additionally, I am a die-hard realist who prefers to understand humans for who and what they are rather than what I wish them to be. The reality is: humans are tribal regardless of who they are and where they come from. That is a fact I acknowledge and live with. I cannot change it, neither can any. So, why pontificate? Most importantly, I maintain my stance that wealth reduces racism. Any black person who wants to campaign against racism should first work on making sure Africa becomes wealthy. Crying from today to tomorrow to yesterday would not change anything until wealth has been established. |
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At least a White Supremacist can point to the accomplishments of their own race. Ancient Rome had a better road network than Nigeria has today. There's still drivable Roman Empire roads all over Europe today, even in that UK.


