₦airaland Forum

Dogalmighty17:
What did he just say? Thunder! Abeg drop whatever you are doing and come now!

This cum gobbling t(w)at! Africa should be grateful? The over 40 million congolese king leopold of Belgium killed should be grateful? The over 200 million black Africans that perished in the slave trade should be grateful? This w(a)nker!

They came and destroyed Africa. They wiped out our heritage and now this son of a dog says our forebears were savages? Ancient Benin kingdom developed the concept of weekly sanitation before Europe even understood the concept of public health! At the time the black plaque was ravaging Europe, Benin kingdom already understood the importance of hygiene and cleanliness. Benin had well planned clay paved double lane streets even before Europe knew what town planning was.

The Nok in the ancient plateau-kaduna area were already harnessing fire to make terra-cotta sculptures. Mansa Musa of Mali(the richest man to have ever lived - forget that bullshit about King solomon), was funding universities! He had so much wealth that on a single pilgrimage to Mecca he made gold useless in every kingdom he passed through because of how much he spent. His spending collapsed the economy of Egypt.

Timbuktu in Mali already had a university with a functioning library before the library of Alexandria even came to be. A huge volume of scrolls in the library of Alexandria were pillaged from Timbuktu in Mali.

Wetin this useless oyibo dey talk?

Do you know what is 200 million??

“Life isn’t about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself.”― George Bernard Shaw

motymop:
You are the one that need to stop talking

The fact that you are typing in English say thanks to your colonial masters.

Or is English your native language

you are mad....i should be thankful to evil people....??

you are a shame to your ancestors....if you were chinese and talked like this you would disappear fast....
dont even try it with indians sef....their own na finish you at the spot....

yeah go tell chinese people that they should be thankful japanese people invaded them....
if you have nothing to say then stfu....!!

motymop:
The language you are typing with

Who brought it?

The primary school and the university you went to, who brought the idea

The cloth you are wearing, obviously western, who brought it

The concept of living in a house and not a hut, who brought the concept

Thanks to colonization

There is a vital aspect you are missing out on.

We didn't have to be colonized to experience exposure to some modern amenities. The long passage of time and greater level of international trade would have ensured that to a large extent.

There are some territories that were not colonized and they currently have many of these facilities you speak of. How? Through trade and globalization. And they don't have to speak English, Portuguese or Spanish.

If Nigeria were not colonized, we would have had more control of our resources though most likely have dictatorships. And we definitely wouldn't be living in huts right now.

gistray:
They owe every country the colonized an apology.

They destroyed Nigeria and gave us a ticking time bomb

Look at those Northerners and look at the south and tell me how we are identical or will ever be the same

North and south way of life totally different and doesn't align


Imagine a United south without the Backwards North

We'd be at worst like South Africa 🇿🇦 Or Ukraine

Nice one

justtoodark:
you are mad....i should be thankful to evil people....??

you are a shame to your ancestors....if you were chinese and talked like this you would disappear fast....
dont even try it with indians sef....their own na finish you at the spot....

Stop all these your online threat.

All your Christian pastors practicing the colonial masters religion told you all to hate your ancestors and that there are ancestors causes that passes from generation to generation.

Are you practicing traditional religion or Christianity?

It is obvious that you are a Christian and practicing the religion of your colonial masters.

motymop:
Stop all these your online threat.

All your Christian pastors practicing the colonial masters religion told you all to hate your ancestors and that there are ancestors causes that passes from generation to generation.

Are you practicing traditional religion or Christianity?

It is obvious that you are a Christian and practicing the religion of your colonial masters.

why are you shiftin topic now....??

ThierryJay:
There is a vital aspect you are missing out on.

We didn't have to be colonized to experience exposure to some modern amenities. The long passage of time and greater level of international trade would have ensured that to a large extent.

There are some territories that were not colonized and they currently have many of these facilities you speak of. How? Through trade and globalization. And they don't have to speak English, Portuguese or Spanish.

If Nigeria were not colonized, we would have had more control of our resources though most likely have dictatorships. And we definitely wouldn't be living in huts right now.

The big point you missed is that we were isolated from the world.

You need ships and merchant for international trade, we didn't have that.

Another fact you are missing is that you can not create something you have no idea of or haven't seen before.

Colonization actually brought international trade and exposure to western way of life.

motymop:
To be realistic, his statement is true.

The British brought western education, hospitals and clinics, roads, new way of farming, improved farming tools and seeds etc, obviously they also brought their religion and churches.

I have watched lot of videos, to be sincere we should be thanking them.

Many of us will still be living in hut, sold as slaves, naked without electricity and no ambition

Getting those things would have probably taken time but they are all things we could have gotten through TRADE, without necessarily been enslaved.

justtoodark:
why are you shiftin topic now....??

Why are you crying

Wasn't Christianity brought to you by your colonial masters

Or don't you know that??

YoungBlackRico:
Shut up, getting those things would have probably take time but they are all things we could have gotten through TRADE, without necessarily been enslaved.

Haha.

Obviously would have taken more than 1000 years

If colonization wasn't here, you will still be walking naked and dancing naked all over the place .

This should have been your brother and sisters

motymop:
Why are you crying

Wasn't Christianity brought to you by your colonial masters

Or don't you know that??

you dey craze....your mind don miss road....

motymop:
Haha.

Obviously would have taken more than 1000 years

If colonization wasn't here, you will still be walking naked and dancing naked all over the place .

This should have been your brother and sisters

I see.

justtoodark:
you dey craze....your mind don miss road....

Lol

So Christianity was invented in Africa

No be rituals and human sacrifice una dey do

Una never still stop

motymop:
Ok

Show me the hospitals, the paved roads and the city centers, the rail way, your ancestors built

The skyscrapers, the cars, the ships, your ancestors built before colonization

we dont have to show you anything....!!

we dont care about inferiority complex blacks like you....!!....you are already lost....
we only care about blacks that the brains is still functionin....

motymop:
The big point you missed is that we were isolated from the world.

You need ships and merchant for international trade, we didn't have that.

Another fact you are missing is that you can not create something you have no idea of or haven't seen before.

Colonization actually brought international trade and exposure to western way of life.

Still not getting it. Yes we would have been late to the party without colonization, but by now we would still have had some exposure.

There are currently territories that were NOT colonized but still have some level of development . Trade made this happen. There can be interactions without colonization.

So do not assume by looking at only one side of the issue.

ThierryJay:
Still not getting it. Yes we would have been late to the party without colonization, but by now we would still have had some exposure.

There are currently territories that were NOT colonized but still have some level of development . Trade made this happen. There can be interactions without colonization.

So do not assume by looking at only one side of the issue.

You claim by now, we would have exposure. What exposure are you talking about.

People that were scared of the ocean, couldn't build ships for international trading would have catch up.

Do you realise that as far back as 1960, people were still walking naked in Nigeria. The most developed parts of Nigeria were those along the sea coast specifically Lagos.

Pls can you mention the territory that we're not colonized but has the same infrastructure as the western world.

He's a kid, stop engaging with him, you are wasting your time. You can't gain anything from discussing with a kid and you can't teach a kid who believes he knows it all. So the discussion is pointless.

YoungBlackRico:
Getting those things would have probably taken time but they are all things we could have gotten through TRADE, without necessarily been enslaved.

ThierryJay:
Still not getting it. Yes we would have been late to the party without colonization, but by now we would still have had some exposure.

There are currently territories that were NOT colonized but still have some level of development . Trade made this happen. There can be interactions without colonization.

So do not assume by looking at only one side of the issue.

Ghostagain:
He's a kid, stop engaging with him, you are wasting your time. You can't gain anything from discussing with a kid and you can't teach a kid who believes he knows it all. So the discussion is pointless.

The fact that you are typing in English prove my point.

Ghostagain:
He's a kid, stop engaging with him, you are wasting your time. You can't gain anything from discussing with a kid and you can't teach a kid who believes he knows it all. So the discussion is pointless.

I noticed and stopped actually.

motymop:
You claim by now, we would have exposure.

Do you realise that as far back as 1960, people were still walking naked in Nigeria.

Pls can you mention the territory that we're not colonized but has the same infrastructure as the western world.

They don't have to have same level of infrastructure as the West but they definitely won't all be walking butt naked and living in huts at this age like you are claiming.

Ethiopia was not colonized, but Addis Ababa is finer than probably all our Nigerian cities.
Bhutan was not colonized
Nepal wasn't.
Tonga in Oceania was not colonized.
Japan was never colonized.

At least for Nigeria, maybe Ethiopia would have been our best benchmark for what we would have looked like if we were not colonized.

Ghostagain:
In short, there is no relations between Benin and yoruba, but the yorubas are desperate to claim Benin in any way or form. Yoruba is not a real ethnicity, rather it is a blender of ethnicities which claims to be one tribe and they desperately want to add Benin to it.

To the best of my knowledge, yoruba are a mixture of slave returnee and local indigenous peoples. Among the local indigenous people whom are now part of the yorubas, many used to be Benin citizens.

The expression yoruba first appeared around 1808 and it was meant as a synonym to oyo kingdom. Then later on, the expression was used to refer to a larger group of people, that group just kept getting bigger over the time. The peoples whom are identified as yoruba today descend from ancestors who identified as something else.

What we know as yoruba today was the brainchild of politicians including awolowo, they tried to unite all the western region in the colonial era into one tribe with fairytales about ife. Most people of the western region accepted the political agenda, but people of the Midwest didn't especially since we were to be the most marginalised by these rewritings of history.

So for some reasons, the yoruba have been obsessed with claiming anything about Benin since that era. They have basically claimed any trace of Benin culture as bring given to Benin by ife. Of course these are claims without proof. Ifd itself was a small village until 1912 when it was the British who started to urbanise it. Whereas Benin was witnessed as an empire on eyewitness written documents as far back as the 1400's

WOW 😦 that's incredible and insightful too, oga na professor of history u be?

Ghostagain:
He's a kid, stop engaging with him, you are wasting your time. You can't gain anything from discussing with a kid and you can't teach a kid who believes he knows it all. So the discussion is pointless.

Lol, I say make I try small.

No, I'm a mathematician and as a hobby, I used to go to European libraries and museums to see the documents left behind by people who met our ancestors and wrote about what they saw.

Satazaa:
WOW 😦 that's incredible and insightful too, oga na professor of history u be?

10mobile:
Yes, to an extent. But what do they owe us for destroying our traditional institutions and heritage?

Na ingratitude go kii many of you Africans. Even in personal relationships, you are some of the most ungrateful wretches that the world has to offer.

If you are so angry with the British that you are sure you gained absolutely nothing from them, the right way to start expressing your anger is to throw away everything you got through them - like this English you are speaking and this technology you are using.

This English and this tech are your only means of connecting with the world. It's now 60 years since the British left us, yet we are still much worse than they left us. Yet, we think we are wiser for hating on the British, just as we think we are wiser for hating on one another.

Read this short article: Another Blow On Igbo-Yoruba Rivalry and see how stupid this generation of Nigerians have become compared to past generations. We have been getting worse every day since the British left us my dear.

See, this one don start the only thing he knows how to do...

What a shame!

FYI the British didn't give us our technology, and what we know today, without slavery we would still have learnt or known. People speak Chinese but they weren't enslaved by them. Emancipate yourself from mental slavery.

10mobile:
Yes, to an extent. But what do they owe us for destroying our traditional institutions and heritage?

Na ingratitude go kii many of you Africans. Even in personal relationships, you are some of the most ungrateful wretches that the world has to offer.

If you are so angry with the British that you are sure you gained absolutely nothing from them, the right way to start expressing your anger is to throw away everything you got through them - like this English you are speaking and this technology you are using.

This English and this tech are your only means of connecting with the world. It's now 60 years since the British left us, yet we are still much worse than they left us. Yet, we think we are wiser for hating on the British, just as we think we are wiser for hating on one another.

Read this short article: Another Blow On Igbo-Yoruba Rivalry and see how stupid this generation of Nigerians have become compared to past generations. We have been getting worse every day since the British left us my dear.

See, this one don start the only thing he knows how to do...

What a shame!

You need to see a psychiatrist. You have a low mental state backed by chronic low self-esteem and probably have very low quality education hence you just speak without proper thought .


You should never speak where adults are speaking.

QuinQ:
His statement is somewhat true



They never forced Nigeria to stay together. Infact they were plotting that North not join independence. Nigerians didn't even include a secession clause in the constitution we drafted - infact Zik was ready to die that it NOT be included. How is that their fault? They gave us a giant that could have been great.
That we totally messed it up is NOT their fault.

Fake news purveyor

motymop:
You claim by now, we would have exposure. What exposure are you talking about.

People that were scared of the ocean, couldn't build ships for international trading would have catch up.

Do you realise that as far back as 1960, people were still walking naked in Nigeria. The most developed parts of Nigeria were those along the sea coast specifically Lagos.

Pls can you mention the territory that we're not colonized but has the same infrastructure as the western world.

You are better educated than the most of the people you are arguing with , am impressed

ThierryJay:
They don't have to have same level of infrastructure as the West but they definitely won't all be walking butt naked and living in huts at this age like you are claiming.

Ethiopia was not colonized, but Addis Ababa is finer than probably all our Nigerian cities.
Bhutan was not colonized
Nepal wasn't.
Tonga in Oceania was not colonized.
Japan was never colonized.

At least for Nigeria, maybe Ethiopia would have been our best benchmark for what we would have looked like if we were not colonized.

I knew you will mention Ethiopia, that is one country that has been doing lot of trading before Nigeria ever think of exiting. The British monarch respected the Ethiopian monarchy. Ethiopia has a strong Orthodox Christian movement and a strong central authority which was the Ethiopian church. an organized system of government( monarchy), they also had written languages and fought a war against the Italians when tried to occupy their land after world war 2

2.Bhutan was part of India and separated from India in 1947 after the British left. So obviously it was colonized.

Do you realise that some of the countries you mentioned had a very strong culture and religion. They were also united as people before the British came.

Nepal . had a written language, the people were educated either in buddhism. They also had an already organized system of government before the British arrived.

For instance, Nepal was a buffer state between China and India, so it is obvious that China and India will influence it.


Tonga was British protectorate just like Lagos, obviously colonized by the British.

Japan wasn't colonized because of its unique way, they were colonisers. they pushed away Christian missionaries, banned them from entering Japan, they had an advanced and strong army, they also had a strong religion Buddhism and Shintoism . They had a written language and were very developed with lot of infrastructures.


The picture I posted was of Tokyo in 1890

10mobile:
Yes, to an extent. But what do they owe us for destroying our traditional institutions and heritage?

Na ingratitude go kii many of you Africans. Even in personal relationships, you are some of the most ungrateful wretches that the world has to offer.

If you are so angry with the British that you are sure you gained absolutely nothing from them, the right way to start expressing your anger is to throw away everything you got through them - like this English you are speaking and this technology you are using.

This English and this tech are your only means of connecting with the world. It's now 60 years since the British left us, yet we are still much worse than they left us. Yet, we think we are wiser for hating on the British, just as we think we are wiser for hating on one another.

Read this short article: Another Blow On Igbo-Yoruba Rivalry and see how stupid this generation of Nigerians have become compared to past generations. We have been getting worse every day since the British left us my dear.

See, this one don start the only thing he knows how to do...

What a shame!

100% well said.

Blacks are the most useless ungrateful race.

Left with them the World would still have been in dark ages.

gistray:
They owe every country the colonized an apology.

They destroyed Nigeria and gave us a ticking time bomb

Look at those Northerners and look at the south and tell me how we are identical or will ever be the same

North and south way of life totally different and doesn't align


Imagine a United south without the Backwards North

We'd be at worst like South Africa 🇿🇦 Or Ukraine

What stopped the south from been a Sovereign nation b4 the British ppl came, it would have been difficult for the British to force two independent countries into one, if they were already existing.

Datguy5:
my guy, we could have had it without colonization through something called "trade"

Your naivety is of astronomical proportions