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Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by fergie001(mod): 8:24pm On Oct 31, 2024
Hahahahaha

Some comments here.......lols
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by ALTERNATEID(op): 8:37pm On Oct 31, 2024
fergie001:
Hahahahaha

Some comments here.......lols
Like?
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by mrvitalis(m): 8:41pm On Oct 31, 2024
chrisxxx:
Fubara will be impeached before that case is decided.
After then what? I guys don't get it at all

Even if woke replace fubara with his son, Biological son, he would never accept to to be dictated to by wike

You people need to understand godfatherism can't work down South east or South South it's impossible

Umahi is being relegated as we speak but he knows there is no point to fight as it's the right thing to do

We train people in apprenticeship, open shop for them next to us to compete with us
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by Noblechykk(m): 8:46pm On Oct 31, 2024
mrvitalis:
We train people in apprenticeship, open shop for them next to us to compete with us
They will never understand this
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by mrvitalis(m): 8:51pm On Oct 31, 2024
Noblechykk:
They will never understand this
God forbid I hand over to a governor then want to control his every move

As I am handing over to him, I am telling everyone I am also handing over the political structure to him ooh

8 years you can't train someone to hand over to?

Wike for kukuma make his wife governor na
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by BondRiv: 10:14pm On Oct 31, 2024
mrvitalis:
The case has been appealed ans stay of Exercusion would be granted... After that supreme Court.. Who knows maybe by 2045

This has no bearing even if I feel the case is baseless
The case will be dispensed with quickly. What are you afraid of? Lawless supporter of a lawless neophyte and ingrate. Lawlessness will consume you people.
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by Seylad2009(m): 10:20pm On Oct 31, 2024
Its so shameful you couldn't see the hand of Tinubu in all these. Hand of Esau, voice of Jacob

ALTERNATEID:
A stay of execution has not been granted so the judgement remains valid and enforceable.

Btw, my intervention has nothing to do with the appeal of the judgement. This is just to clarify the misinformation and misunderstanding that politically biased commentators like Chidi Odinkaku and others are trying to pass that President Tinubu is the one behind the order despite what happened in Lagos in 2004.

This current order was not issued by the president but by a court of competent jurisdiction.
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by Kilometres: 10:31pm On Oct 31, 2024
mrvitalis:
You obviously don't know how appeal and stay of Exercusion works for you to make that statement

Stay of Exercusion must be granted before appeal process can begin... Go educate yourself
This is not true.
You're are not a lawyer so I don't blame you.

Appeal can go on even without granting stay of exercusion
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by IMPARTIAL: 10:37pm On Oct 31, 2024
Na Wike agent you be.
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by nesphil(m): 10:39pm On Oct 31, 2024
Are you talking about the defected troublemakershuh

That says when you defect your seat should be declared vacant.

You Dad-Waste media carefully avoided this part.

Useless write-up.

Those troublemakers were no longer legitimate members of their state House of Assembly.

So stop writing trash to score cheap political points.

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Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by amba1(m): 10:41pm On Oct 31, 2024
The case is only but biased.
If the court could give order,my question is WHO ARE THE PEOPLE BEHIND THE COURT ORDER?
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by seunayantokun(m): 10:43pm On Oct 31, 2024
The judgement can't be implemented since it's been appealed.
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by tuzle(m): 11:04pm On Oct 31, 2024
BondRiv:
The case will be dispensed with quickly. What are you afraid of? Lawless supporter of a lawless neophyte and ingrate. Lawlessness will consume you people.
so wike is the one that is right here abi. Hypocrite like wike didn't do the same when he became governor or he never made a statement saying no to godfather.
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by ALTERNATEID(op): 11:04pm On Oct 31, 2024
seunayantokun:
The judgement can't be implemented since it's been appealed.
Except a stay of execution order is granted, the judgement will be implemented immediately.
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by blacknp(m): 11:23pm On Oct 31, 2024
amba1:
The case is only but biased.
If the court could give order, my question is WHO ARE THE PEOPLE BEHIND THE COURT ORDER?
Please gerrout of here jare, nonsense.
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by blacknp(m): 11:27pm On Oct 31, 2024
tuzle:
so wike is the one that is right here abi. Hypocrite like wike didn't do the same when he became governor or he never made a statement saying no to godfather.
Just imagine 4 lawmakers out of 32 pass budget, & some mumus they support them?
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by seunayantokun(m): 11:40pm On Oct 31, 2024
ALTERNATEID:
Except a stay of execution order is granted, the judgement will be implemented immediately.
Of course, you wouldn't expect them to appeal it without seeking a stay of execution alongside.
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by Kukutente23: 12:03am On Nov 01, 2024
[quote author=ALTERNATEID post=132677769][/quote]Stop spreading misinformation. Uwais never said only court can stop funds to any agency. What it said is that stoppage of funds can be done with executive action. In the first place, it will remain to be seen if a federal Court has jurisdiction over the allocation of a state. Secondly, in this particular case, it should be the house that should have powers to stop funds to the state govt since they are the ones that have powers of appropriation.
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by TalkingBird: 12:11am On Nov 01, 2024
You say they should not give me my share of what rightfully belongs to me that everyone is sharing from.

Wickedness of the highest order.

Man's wickedness over his fellow man will end soon.


The world is in turmoil already
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by franvincoop: 12:12am On Nov 01, 2024
@ALTERNATEID

I don't know the difference u r looking for in this your long sermon....
Fact is, your whole write up has no foundation, so all those skyscrapers you are building with Justice Uwais, Tpain and OBJ are in your mind.
See, by using the word lawmakers in your beautiful writeup, you lied by omission via ignoring the fact that the very status of the so called lawmakers is still in court.

No court in Nigeria, even the Supreme Court can ever stop a Federal State in Nigeria from receiving its allocation as this is against the Nigerian constitution 1999 as amended.

Why do you think the CBN took sides with Rivers State? because they would be the ones to enforce that judgement, not police, not army or dss.
CBN no fit ever enforce that judgement, either a stay of execution for CBN to save face or CBN go pay Rivers state and disobey the court order in broad daylight.
Even under a state of emergency, Rivers state e allocation go dey flow.
Omo, so na wetin u b wan really explain?


Rivers state as an institution is an Executive branch of government, Judiciary no fit tell e shit abt how e wan run e affairs.
If you stupid enough to believe say any court fit stop Rivers state from receiving its allocation as per the constitution, then you must equally be foolish enough for gree say court fit stop CBN from disbursing money to FG.
To pass judgement is one thing, to enforce is another.
That judgement is not worth the paper it was printed on.

Na CBN know the importance of Rivers state, if Rivers state catch fire now now like in they bomb those pipelines Nigeria go collapse immediately.
Na CBN know how many barrels they need to sell in a day to run 4 budgets, na CBN know how e di handle debt servicing (hw many % of budget againhuh), na CBN know how much im don borrow for future production, na CBN know how much Rivers state dey contribute daily in USD from those pipelines.
If Rivers state shock Nigeria now this 2024 eh,, Nigeria no go ever wake up.
When you check am finish and weigh what is involved, CBN go pay Rivers state.
The alternative if they bomb those pipelines in Rivers state, incoming dollar go just reduce, naira go reach 7000 to usd within 48 hours of the bombing of those pipelines, inflation go implode, that 15 trillion coastal road go reach 100 trillion, how dem go meet up the 4 budgets that are running concurrently now.

Obedients, Northerners and those who are against 1 Nigeria gather here, make I give una update.

If you bomb those pipelines in Rivers state now and reduce the number of barrels which can be sold daily, this "we hail thee" ship will sink and never rise again.


I repeat Nigeria has never ever been this vulnerable, if Rivers state shock Nigeria na direct default on our loans and become VENEZUELA at best or Bangladesh for worse.

This Wike vs Sim problem, if not handled correctly, is a fight that is able and capable of throwing grenades to a Nigeria on life support.

Tell them you heard it here first.
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by Otamendi99(m): 12:30am On Nov 01, 2024
mrvitalis:
After then what? I guys don't get it at all

Even if woke replace fubara with his son, Biological son, he would never accept to to be dictated to by wike

You people need to understand godfatherism can't work down South east or South South it's impossible

Umahi is being relegated as we speak but he knows there is no point to fight as it's the right thing to do

We train people in apprenticeship, open shop for them next to us to compete with us
Shuuuuuuuu. Nobi same SS weh ibori dey lord since 1999. Godfatherism works everywia, one of d bedrocks of politics in Nigeria. Did nwaifuru or umahi tell u dey r having problems, u just added dem, make e be like u sound woke.
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by Starhearts: 12:38am On Nov 01, 2024
mrvitalis:
The case has been appealed ans stay of Exercusion would be granted... After that supreme Court.. Who knows maybe by 2045

This has no bearing even if I feel the case is baseless
Listen to urself
D money wey dem use send u go skool supposed use build poultry farm
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by Max24: 1:30am On Nov 01, 2024
mrvitalis:
I have never preempted a court... I can share opinions but I certainly don't state my opinions as a fact

What are the facts of this case

1) no body knows who are the members of rivers state House of assembly as the case is still before the court

2) Fubara presented budget to people who he believes are the law makers

3) it suspect to ask fubara to present a budget when court has not ruled on who and who are lawmakers in rivers state

A natural court would have asked the budget to be presented to the national Assembly house of reps since they can take over the function of state House of assembly of they can't function

4) the ruling can't be enforced until the appeal process has ended
Why are you people like this? Court or no court, tell me which developed democracy would allow an executive present budget to his 5 chosen lawmakers and ignoring the other 27 ? So, democracy is no longer about minority having his say while majority have his way? You interpret democracy and court cases to suit your preferences. True democracy and justice can never depend on you people. You will mess it up to favour your predetermined opinions. Keep it up !
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by ZIAZI(m): 2:07am On Nov 01, 2024
mrvitalis:
You obviously don't know how appeal and stay of Exercusion works for you to make that statement

Stay of Exercusion must be granted before appeal process can begin... Go educate yourself
You are so wrong! The Courts have the discretion to grant a stay of execution. It has never been a "MUST" affair and will never be.

Again, an appeal on it's own does not act as a stay of execution.

Your statement is so wrong, and you need to educate yourself too.
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by ZIAZI(m): 2:14am On Nov 01, 2024
mrvitalis:
I have never preempted a court... I can share opinions but I certainly don't state my opinions as a fact

What are the facts of this case

1) no body knows who are the members of rivers state House of assembly as the case is still before the court

2) Fubara presented budget to people who he believes are the law makers

3) it suspect to ask fubara to present a budget when court has not ruled on who and who are lawmakers in rivers state

A natural court would have asked the budget to be presented to the national Assembly house of reps since they can take over the function of state House of assembly of they can't function

4) the ruling can't be enforced until the appeal process has ended
Instead of misinforming the public, pick up some legal books and enlighten yourself. Ask questions and open your heart to learn!

You are not a lawyer, neither are you peritus on legal issues. Your arguments above have exposed your shallow understanding on legal issues and the political nature of things in Rivers State currently.

You're one of those who just hate Chief Barr. Ezenwo Nyesom Wike.
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by apexugroup: 2:16am On Nov 01, 2024
Max24:
Why are you people like this? Court or no court, tell me which developed democracy would allow an executive present budget to his 5 chosen lawmakers and ignoring the other 27 ? So, democracy is no longer about minority having his say while majority have his way? You interpret democracy and court cases to suit your preferences. True democracy and justice can never depend on you people. You will mess it up to favour your predetermined opinions. Keep it up !
They decamp so they automatically vacate their seats. Start from there. Stop acting like a zombie.
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by Max24: 2:35am On Nov 01, 2024
apexugroup:
They decamp so they automatically vacate their seats. Start from there. Stop acting like a zombie.
You said they decamped, they said no. The burden of proof is on you to prove that they have decamped. Untill the courts pronounce their seats vacated, Fubara cannot act unilaterally. Who should declare their seats vacant ? Is it Fubara , an interested party or the court, or INEC. Neither the court nor INEC has done so yet while Fubara is taking a unilateral action. Governors are not Kings ! Fubara cannot be the accuser and the judge at the same time. He should maintain status quo pending when the courts make a pronouncement.
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by apexugroup: 2:53am On Nov 01, 2024
Rascality will always lead to further rascal behaviour. To the tune of these charlatans who pass for politicians, INEC and the Court have become incredibly corrupt and inept. Do you want the governor to rely on and obey that institution? I will rather burn River State to the ground than watch them humiliate me. I want him to act like an Ijaw man notwithstanding.
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by Max24: 3:03am On Nov 01, 2024
apexugroup:
They decamp so they automatically vacate their seats. Start from there. Stop acting like a zombie.
Produce the evidence of their decampment. Who is the subject of decampment, na you ? You said they decamped , they said no, then the question is who decamped them, Fubara ? Is it not convenient, so that he can rule without questioning from the legislature. Funny enough why is it the gov that's carrying the issue on its head? Opposition parties who stand to gain in reelection ought to have been the ones to sue for their vacation and not Fubara except he has something to gain. And you can't be a judge in your own case.
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by apexugroup: 3:05am On Nov 01, 2024
Max24:
Produce the evidence of their decampment. Who is the subject of decampment, na you ? You said they decamped , they said no, then the question is who decamped them, Fubara ? Is it not convenient, so that he can rule without questioning from the legislature. Funny enough why is it the gov that's carrying the issue on its head? Opposition parties who stand to gain in reelection ought to have been the ones to sue for their vacation and not Fubara except he has something to gain. And you can't be a judge in your own case.
Only a non-serious nation like Nigeria produced strong persons; all great nations support powerful institutions. But because the court order benefits your allies, you sit here and discuss how to follow it.. I should also produce how INEC ruin our economy and democracy.
Re: Rivers Allocation Judgement: The Difference Between Lagos And Rivers Situation. by mrvitalis(m): 3:18am On Nov 01, 2024
Max24:
Why are you people like this? Court or no court, tell me which developed democracy would allow an executive present budget to his 5 chosen lawmakers and ignoring the other 27 ? So, democracy is no longer about minority having his say while majority have his way? You interpret democracy and court cases to suit your preferences. True democracy and justice can never depend on you people. You will mess it up to favour your predetermined opinions. Keep it up !
27 who's sit vacancy should have been declared vacant months ago ?
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