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Re: Donald Trump Elected as the 47th President of USA! by Maeve7: 10:17am On Nov 06, 2024
cococandy:
I don’t know if you saw any of my earlier posts but I was saying how now that I’m grown, I don’t question how Hitler could’ve succeeded. I’ve seen it now happen before my eyes and I know how it happened.

I know that between being in Europe for the next few years and living in California full time, it will be hard for his bigotry to touch me.

But my heart still hurts for those who’ll inevitably suffer and die because of this man’s presidency.

But he got majority votes so the people chose their poison. Can’t cry too much for them
I have seen your posts and I feel the same way. I just can’t believe it’s happening in America. I knew from the start that Kamala Harris wasn’t the best choice because of her performance in the primaries before Biden won and I knew it was going downhill after her Fox News interview which I couldn’t watch for longer than 4 minutes but she was still better than a felon, rapist and wannabe dictator. A fly would be better.

The most devastating part for me is that so many people are willing to give him their vote.

But yeah, humanity doesn’t seem to learn. Scapegoat a minority, promise tax breaks, make the media focus on you with scandals because bad publicity is as useful as good publicity and you win.

The world has changed in a way that is difficult to digest. Decency, honesty, integrity and kindness don’t seem to matter anymore.
Re: Donald Trump Elected as the 47th President of USA! by Kelechi009: 12:16pm On Nov 06, 2024
Maeve7:
I have seen your posts and I feel the same way. I just can’t believe it’s happening in America. I knew from the start that Kamala Harris wasn’t the best choice because of her performance in the primaries before Biden won and I knew it was going downhill after her Fox News interview which I couldn’t watch for longer than 4 minutes but she was still better than a felon, rapist and wannabe dictator. A fly would be better.

The most devastating part for me is that so many people are willing to give him their vote.

But yeah, humanity doesn’t seem to learn. Scapegoat a minority, promise tax breaks, make the media focus on you with scandals because bad publicity is as useful as good publicity and you win.

The world has changed in a way that is difficult to digest. Decency, honesty, integrity and kindness don’t seem to matter anymore.
What exactly is all this fuss and panicking about, those two candidates are not really different. One favours immigration while the other is against it, another favours Abortion while the other says abortion rights should be left to states.

Fundamentally they are both politicians like Biden, wars will continue and gas prices will still be high so what exactly is the issue.
Re: Donald Trump Elected as the 47th President of USA! by Maeve7: 12:19pm On Nov 06, 2024
Kelechi009:
What exactly is all this fuss and panicking about, those two candidates are not really different. One favours immigration while the other is against it, another favours Abortion while the other says abortion rights should be left to states.

Fundamentally they are both politicians like Biden, wars will continue and gas prices will still be high so what exactly is the issue.
He is a criminal.

He wanted to overthrow the last election.

He wants to use violence against opposition.

He scapegoats minorities.

Do you need more?
Re: Donald Trump Elected as the 47th President of USA! by Kelechi009: 12:23pm On Nov 06, 2024
cococandy:
I don’t know if you saw any of my earlier posts but I was saying how now that I’m grown, I don’t question how Hitler could’ve succeeded. I’ve seen it now happen before my eyes and I know how it happened.

I know that between being in Europe for the next few years and living in California full time, it will be hard for his bigotry to touch me.

But my heart still hurts for those who’ll inevitably suffer and die because of this man’s presidency.

But he got majority votes so the people chose their poison. Can’t cry too much for them
I have a question because I am confused, please is there something others like me should be aware of apart from Immigration & abortion rights which are the two main issues I recognised in this campaign, I am genuinely asking.

From what I see, the most Trump votes come from the White men, I don't mean to be a Black racist but I kinda feel like they will not leave their authoritarian rule for any other tribe or minorities. White men control the world & all of us are just pawns in their game.

I do not hate nor love the White man but I recognise the powers that be.
Re: Donald Trump Elected as the 47th President of USA! by Kelechi009: 12:28pm On Nov 06, 2024
Maeve7:
He is a criminal.

He wanted to overthrow the last election.

He wants to use violence against opposition.

He scapegoats minorities.

Do you need more?
Not defending him, but you cannot constitutionally over throw an election in US, it is not Nigeria. He can only shout but cannot over throw anyone.

Maybe I am wrong but please let me know.

I am saying this as there are 3 types of people in this election, pro-Trump, pro-Kamala & those that not affected by the any of the two (as an immigrant not based in America). Which is who I am.
Re: Donald Trump Elected as the 47th President of USA! by cococandy(f): 12:31pm On Nov 06, 2024
Well he has an awful platform that a lot of people are ignoring just so they can talk about how women want to kill unborn babies etc.

There is the issue of the economy which we’re still recovering from his past blunders. There’s the issue of American diplomatic relations as well as the issue of separation of church and state.

The issue of Trump wanting to abolish the department of education for all children. Abolishing of medicare/medicaid (health aid to old people and disabled people.) Removal of veterans rights and retirement benefits.

Those two things aren’t even the majority of the issue. I could go on and on. Notice I haven’t even said anything about him being a bad person.
Kelechi009:
I have a question because I am confused, please is there something others like me should be aware of apart from Immigration & abortion rights which are the two main issues I recognised in this campaign, I am genuinely asking.

From what I see, the most Trump votes come from the White men, I don't mean to be a Black racist but I kinda feel like they will not leave their authoritarian rule for any other tribe or minorities. White men control the world & all of us are just pawns in their game.

I do not hate nor love the White man but I recognise the powers that be.
Re: Donald Trump Elected as the 47th President of USA! by Maeve7: 12:36pm On Nov 06, 2024
Kelechi009:
Not defending him, but you cannot constitutionally over throw an election in US, it is not Nigeria. He can only shout but cannot over throw anyone.

Maybe I am wrong but please let me know.

I am saying this as there are 3 types of people in this election, pro-Trump, pro-Kamala & those that not affected by the any of the two (as an immigrant not based in America). Which is who I am.
Hitler was democratically elected before he became a dictator. Germany has been a democracy before. That’s just one example of how a democracy can be destroyed.

Till this day Trump claims he didn’t lose in 2020. He was stopped from overthrowing the result of the election in 2020 because enough people in the right positions did what was right. What if nobody stops him next time?
Re: Donald Trump Elected as the 47th President of USA! by Kelechi009: 12:40pm On Nov 06, 2024
cococandy:
Well he has an awful platform that a lot of people are ignoring just so they can talk about how women want to kill unborn babies etc.

There is the issue of the economy which we’re still recovering from his past blunders. There’s the issue of American diplomatic relations as well as the issue of separation of church and state.

The issue of Trump wanting to abolish the department of education for all children. Abolishing of medicare/medicaid (health aid to old people and disabled people.) Removal of veterans rights and retirement benefits.

Those two things aren’t even the majority of the issue. I could go on and on. Notice I haven’t even said anything about him being a bad person.
Alright thanks, I never even knew all of this, because for me the main reason I supported Kamala was because the American embassies were open to immigrants under the democratic rule & appointment dates for US visas became available, under Trump it is shut down completely. So what concerned me was immigration & perhaps that is the information my brain kept reiterating. Okay I wish the Americans good luck in this next 4 years. Abortion issue was something everyone kept talking about blowing out of proportion.
Re: Donald Trump Elected as the 47th President of USA! by cococandy(f): 12:46pm On Nov 06, 2024
I wish us good luck too cheesy

I truly don’t want to spend the next four years saying “ I told you” so to people who voted for him.

Because in the end we all suffer

So I hope they’re right and I’m wrong.

Kelechi009:
Alright thanks, I never even knew all of this, because for me the main reason I supported Kamala was because the American embassies were open to immigrants under the democratic rule & appointment dates for US visas became available, under Trump it is shut down completely. So what concerned me was immigration & perhaps that is the information my brain kept reiterating. Okay I wish the Americans good luck in this next 4 years. Abortion issue was something everyone kept talking about blowing out of proportion.
Re: Donald Trump Elected as the 47th President of USA! by Kelechi009: 12:47pm On Nov 06, 2024
Maeve7:
Hitler was democratically elected before he became a dictator. Germany has been a democracy before. That’s just one example of how a democracy can be destroyed.

Till this day Trump claims he didn’t lose in 2020. He was stopped from overthrowing the result of the election in 2020 because enough people in the right positions did what was right. What if nobody stops him next time?
He cannot actually over throw any result. No single person has that much power. It's America we are talking about & not Tinubu's Nigeria.

If it was another man like a younger version of Biden that campaigned, Trump would have lost because the White man votes will be divided amonsgt both. He is not that powerful I'm sorry. What happened here is that white men only had one option which was another White man. If it was two White men, the results will be different.
Re: Donald Trump Elected as the 47th President of USA! by Maeve7: 1:02pm On Nov 06, 2024
Kelechi009:
He cannot actually over throw any result. No single person has that much power. It's America we are talking about & not Tinubu's Nigeria.

If it was another man like a younger version of Biden that campaigned, Trump would have lost because the White man votes will be divided amonsgt both. He is not that powerful I'm sorry. What happened here is that white men only had one option which was another White man. If it was two White men, the results will be different.
Power is not given, power is taken. Dictators don’t rise to power because of checks and balances and laws but despite them. He tried to overthrow the last election and failed. Neither you nor I know if he will try and fail again.

The fact that he refused to respect the will of the people in the previous election should tell us that he is a dangerous man. America‘s institutions are strong but not indestructible.

Watch Hitler&Nazis, Evil on Trial on Netflix please.
Re: Donald Trump Elected as the 47th President of USA! by Kelechi009: 1:20pm On Nov 06, 2024
Maeve7:
Power is not given, power is taken. Dictators don’t rise to power because of checks and balances and laws but despite them. He tried to overthrow the last election and failed. Neither you nor I know if he will try and fail again.

The fact that he refused to respect the will of the people in the previous election should tell us that he is a dangerous man. America‘s institutions are strong but not indestructible.

Watch Hitler&Nazis, Evil on Trial on Netflix please.
Thanks for the series suggestion, I'll go watch it.
Re: Donald Trump Elected as the 47th President of USA! by Maeve7: 1:21pm On Nov 06, 2024
Kelechi009:
Thanks for the series suggestion, I'll go watch it.
Please tell me how you liked it and what your take aways from it are later. Looking forward to reading from you.
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