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AntiChristian:
Call it anything you like! This is just one post out of many in the falsehood around the crucifixion of Jesus!



Ah! INRI is Latin and that's what John used! I saw that too above Jesus's alter at our parish back then so now you admit Matthew, Mark and Luke are all wrong in their report in this case?

What was written on Jesus cross is the same in all gospels. They're all correct even though they rendered it differently!

The point is that "The King of the Jews" was the basis of His accusation according to Pilate.

GothamCities:
What was written on Jesus cross is the same in all gospels. They're all correct even though they rendered it differently!
The point is that "The King of the Jews" was the basis of His accusation according to Pilate.

It's just a pity he's suffering from misdirected zeal (Romans 10:2-4} thinking he could make sense when what he has (Quran) is nothing compared to God's word the Bible!

GothamCities:
What was written on Jesus cross is the same in all gospels. They're all correct even though they rendered it differently!

Nah! This is essentially false!

The point is that "The King of the Jews" was the basis of His accusation according to Pilate.

This is not the point. The fact that the Holy spirit is involved necessitates top-notch accuracy!

They are not the same at all and only one can be true!

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1. Mark 15:26 - The inscription:“The King of the Jews.”

2. Matthew 27:37 - The inscription: “This is Jesus the King of the Jews.”

3. Luke 23:38 - The inscription: “This is the King of the Jews.”

4. John 19:19 - The inscription: “Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews.”

If John is true then the others are false!

AntiChristian:
Nah! This essentially false!

This is not the point. The fact that the Holy spirit is involved necessitates top-notch accuracy!

They are not the same at all and only one can be true!

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1. Mark 15:26 - The inscription:“The King of the Jews.”

2. Matthew 27:37 - The inscription: “This is Jesus the King of the Jews.”

3. Luke 23:38 - The inscription: “This is the King of the Jews.”

4. John 19:19 - The inscription: “Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews.”

You should detail the falsehood! The accusation written on the cross was that He claimed to be the King of the Jews, yes or no? The renderings do not matter in good logic. The writers didn't write in Latin, and are not particular about putting it down word for word. The incident was a reported incident!

The fact that the Holy Spirit is involved necessitates top notch accuracy in the realms of spiritual revelations and not in the realms of terrestrial events that is the realm of man.

The Holy Spirit uses your knowledge, experiences and abilities. He can amplify them but that does not suspend your need for knowledge, research and mental alacrity.

If the Holy Spirit gives you top notch accuracy about all events and happenings, then the Bible won't command us to "study to show ourselves approved." You need to research, read and gather knowledge to write. The Holy Spirit won't reveal everything to you, except you directly ask. Humans are not God. The Holy Spirit does not make anyone omniscient!

GothamCities:
You should detail the falsehood! The accusation written on the cross was that He claimed to be the King of the Jews, yes or no? The renderings do not matter in good logic. The writers didn't write in Latin, and are not particular about putting it down word for word. The incident was a reported incident!

The fact that the Holy Spirit is involved necessitates top notch accuracy in the realms of spiritual revelations and not in the realms of terrestrial events that is the realm of man.

The Holy Spirit uses your knowledge, experiences and abilities. He can amplify them but that does not suspend your need for knowledge, research and mental alacrity.

If the Holy Spirit gives you top notch accuracy about all events and happenings, then the Bible won't command us to "study to show ourselves approved." You need to research, read and gather knowledge to write. The Holy Spirit won't reveal everything to you, except you directly ask. Humans are not God. The Holy Spirit does not make anyone omniscient!

Abeg, it does matter!

If you're asked what the inscription on the cross is you can only give one of those options!

Which makes others wrong!

Was "Nazareth" written on the cross?

I know where this will end!

Paul's the letter killeth and I need the holy spirit to explain things to me!

Why didn't the holy spirit correct Matthew, Mark, Luke and John to write the correct inscription?

All of them are different! Each having a 0.25 probability of being true! That's a low possibility!

AntiChristian:
Abeg, it does matter!

If you're asked what the inscription on the cross is you can only give one of those options!

Which makes others wrong!

Was "Nazareth" written on the cross?

I know where this will end!

Paul's the letter killeth and I need the holy spirit to explain things to me!

Why didn't the holy spirit correct Matthew, Mark, Luke and John to write the correct inscription?

All of them are different! Each having a 0.25 probability of being true! That's a low possibility!

Whether Nazareth was written or not, something was written on the cross. Period! Everyone recorded what they heard. What was written on the cross is not what saves. The important point is that Pilate wrote His accusation which was "The King of the Jews". That's all.

GothamCities:
Whether Nazareth was written or not, something was written on the cross. Period! Everyone recorded what they heard. What was written on the cross is not what saves. The important point is that Pilate wrote His accusation which was "The King of the Jews". That's all.

That means what they recorded is error prone! How can we believe such salvation from such Gospels that can't even record small things as these correctly?

What you are saying essentially is what I've heard many times before! The letter kills! Just swallow it all by faith! This matter is not even as it regards the unseen things! These are visible things!

If it was "The King of the Jews" then all the others below are wrong!

2. Matthew 27:37 - The inscription: “This is Jesus the King of the Jews.”

3. Luke 23:38 - The inscription: “This is the King of the Jews.”

4. John 19:19 - The inscription: “Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews.”

AntiChristian:
That means what they recorded is error prone! How can we believe such salvation from such Gospels that can't even record small things as these correctly?

Can you stare the error? And who has ever told you that salvation comes from the what they wrote? Salvation is in Jesus only.

What you are saying essentially is what I've heard many times before! The letter kills! Just swallow it all by faith! This matter is not even as it regards the unseen things! These are visible things!

If it was "The King of the Jews" then all the others below are wrong!

You heard without understanding. The letter kills does not apply here at all!

You're simply confused. All the others also wrote "The King of the Jews". Show me one who didn't write it! How are they wrong?

GothamCities:
Can you stare the error? And who has ever told you that salvation comes from the what they wrote? Salvation is in Jesus only.

Did you meet Jesus on earth? You can only learn about Jesus from the same error prone Book! The error is in the inscription!

You heard without understanding. The letter kills does not apply here at all!

You're simply confused. All the others also wrote "The King of the Jews". Show me one who didn't write it! How are they wrong?

The matter is clear here! If you ask a kid to memorize a Phrase i.e. The King of the Jews and later the kid gives you one of:

This is Jesus the King of the Jews
This is the King of the Jews
Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews

Na F9 be that o!

AntiChristian:
Did you meet Jesus on earth? You can only learn about Jesus from the same error prone Book! The error is in the inscription!

Without stating the error, it's just your personal delusion.

The matter is clear here! If you ask a kid to memorize a Phrase i.e. The King of the Jews and later the kid gives you one of:

This is Jesus the King of the Jews
This is the King of the Jews
Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews

Na F9 be that o!

But no one was given anything to anyone to memorize. That's the difference.

Meanwhile, if 3 kids were told to narrate an event and describe what was written on the cross if anything was written on it, after many years of the event,

one said "This is Jesus the King of the Jews"

Another said "This is the King of the Jews"

Then another also said, "Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews"

None of the kids are lying, especially when they're reporting it in a language different from the inscription!

The inscription is not what saves! It is absolutely irrelevant!

GothamCities:
Without stating the error, it's just your personal delusion.

You can't see it till you open your eyes! Can't you see that you are the only one defending the errors! Everyone knows only one statement can be right from the four!

But no one was given anything to anyone to memorize. That's the difference.

Meanwhile, if 3 kids were told to narrate an event and describe what was written on the cross if anything was written on it, after many years of the event,

one said "This is Jesus the King of the Jews"

Another said "This is the King of the Jews"

Then another also said, "Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews"

None of the kids are lying, especially when they're reporting it in a language different from the inscription!

The inscription is not what saves! It is absolutely irrelevant!

It's only one of them that will still be right! Others will be wrong! Except they all have the Holy Spirit like you! Then all wrong will be seen as right!

AntiChristian:
You can't see it till you open your eyes! Can't you see that you are the only one defending the errors! Everyone knows only one statement can be right from the four!

I can't see the 'everyone' you're talking about.

I told you they were not particular about quoting the inscription word for word. They were just reporting. The inscription carries no significance to any Christian!

It's only one of them that will still be right! Others will be wrong! Except they all have the Holy Spirit like you! Then all wrong will be seen as right!

A combination of all statements is what is right! The Gospels complement each other.

GothamCities:
I can't see the 'everyone' you're talking about.

I told you they were not particular about quoting the inscription word for word. They were just reporting. The inscription carries no significance to any Christian!

Of course you can't see! How will you see anything? When it's not Islam! They were particular about the truth!

The Holy Spirit was to guide to the truth! Yet, they wrote the wrong things!

However, when the Spirit of truth comes, He will guide you into all truth. For He will not speak on His own, but He will speak what He hears, and He will declare to you what is to come. John 16:13

A combination of all statements is what is right! The Gospels complement each other.

They were written independently and not to complement each other! And this one can't complement one another as only one can be right!

AntiChristian:
Of course you can't see! How will you see anything? When it's not Islam! They were particular about the truth!

They were particular about the truth, and the truth is that there was an inscription written by Pilate with the words "King of the Jews". All other details are irrelevant.

The Holy Spirit was to guide to the truth! Yet, they wrote the wrong things!

What was the wrong things they wrote? Is it as wrong as Mohammed who wrote that Mary the sister of Aaron was the mother of Jesus?

However, when the Spirit of truth comes, He will guide you into all truth. For He will not speak on His own, but He will speak what He hears, and He will declare to you what is to come. John 16:13

Was the inscription a truth that was to come as the time they wrote? Was it a revelation?

They were written independently and not to complement each other! And this one can't complement one another as only one can be right!

They complement each other. They didn't write to complement each other but they complement each other!

All are right! All said there was an inscription. All said it was written by Pilate. All said the inscription contained the accusation; King of the Jews!

All other details regarding the exact written sentence are Irrelevant!

GothamCities:
They were particular about the truth, and the truth is that there was an inscription written by Pilate with the words "King of the Jews". All other details are irrelevant.

A word of God should not contain error as clear as this. Again only one Gospel used "king of the Jews" others were wrong as they had more details! This questions the source of the reports!

What was the wrong things they wrote?

1. Mark 15:26 - The inscription:“The King of the Jews.”

2. Matthew 27:37 - The inscription: “This is Jesus the King of the Jews.”

3. Luke 23:38 - The inscription: “This is the King of the Jews.”

4. John 19:19 - The inscription: “Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews.”

Is it as wrong as Mohammed who wrote that Mary the sister of Aaron was the mother of Jesus?

The Christian monks asked the same question during the time of our Prophet and it came to his notice:
Mughira ibn Shu’ba reported: When I came to Najran, the Christian monks asked me, “You recite the verse, ‘O sister of Aaron,’ (Qur'an 19:28) but Moses was born long before Jesus by many years.” When I came back to the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, I asked him about it and he said, “Verily, they used to name people with the names of prophets and righteous people who had passed before them.”

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2135 Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim

Ibn Kathir said, “This is like saying to somebody from the Tamimi tribe: O brother of Tamim, or to somebody from the Mudari tribe: O brother of Mudar.” Source: Tafsīr Ibn Kathīr 19:28

Was the inscription a truth that was to come as the time they wrote? Was it a revelation?

How are we to trust every other things in the Bible when ordinary Inscriptions are wrong from the four Gospels?

They complement each other. They didn't write to complement each other but they complement each other!

All are right! All said there was an inscription. All said it was written by Pilate. All said the inscription contained the accusation; King of the Jews!

All other details regarding the exact written sentence are Irrelevant!

So you determine they complement each other on your own?
This is extremely funny! Anyways! I had expected this before! Thank you for your time!

AntiChristian:
A word of God should not contain error as clear as this. Again only one Gospel used "king of the Jews" others were wrong as they had more details! This questions the source of the reports!

Yes, the word of God is the hidden message of love that the Bible carries. Not the letters that were written.

1. Mark 15:26 - The inscription:“The King of the Jews.”

2. Matthew 27:37 - The inscription: “This is Jesus the King of the Jews.”

3. Luke 23:38 - The inscription: “This is the King of the Jews.”

4. John 19:19 - The inscription: “Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews.”

So which of them didn't mention King of the Jews?

The Christian monks asked the same question during the time of our Prophet and it came to his notice:
Mughira ibn Shu’ba reported: When I came to Najran, the Christian monks asked me, “You recite the verse, ‘O sister of Aaron,’ (Qur'an 19:28) but Moses was born long before Jesus by many years.” When I came back to the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, I asked him about it and he said, “Verily, they used to name people with the names of prophets and righteous people who had passed before them.”

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2135 Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim

[b]Ibn Kathir said, “This is like saying to somebody from the Tamimi tribe: O brother of Tamim, or to somebody from the Mudari tribe: O brother of Mudar.” Source: Tafsīr Ibn Kathīr 19:28

Lies!

Mohammed explicitly said the sister of Aaron was the mother of Jesus. That coverup of the lies holds no water. Mohammed should have boldly followed the fellow to go explain that to the Jews if he was sure of himself!

How are we to trust every other things in the Bible when ordinary Inscriptions are wrong from the four Gospels?

You have failed to show me any error so far!

So you determine they complement each other on your own?
This is extremely funny! Anyways! I had expected this before! Thank you for your time!

A careful study of all the Gospels together already shows they're complementary. Each person says what he knows while others provide more details for the same event. This is typical of all reports made by men for every event that happens. The typical tabloids are classical examples.

AntiChristian:
A word of God should not contain error as clear as this. Again only one Gospel used "king of the Jews" others were wrong as they had more details! This questions the source of the reports!




1. Mark 15:26 - The inscription:“The King of the Jews.”

2. Matthew 27:37 - The inscription: “This is Jesus the King of the Jews.”

3. Luke 23:38 - The inscription: “This is the King of the Jews.”

4. John 19:19 - The inscription: “Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews.”

You v said it all. Word of God (the Holy Bible) has error. It camevfrom ya reprobate mind. Continue!
You wey nor get original market dey discredit original with ya fake product.
You ll porknose and enter any religious matter fanning hate and discord. You chose the wrong moniker roaming around. Allah dey see you dey smile waiting for ya repentance.

GothamCities:
Yes, the word of God is the hidden message of love that the Bible carries. Not the letters that were written.


So which of them didn't mention King of the Jews?


Lies!

Mohammed explicitly said the sister of Aaron was the mother of Jesus. That coverup of the lies holds no water. Mohammed should have boldly followed the fellow to go explain that to the Jews if he was sure of himself!


You have failed to show me any error so far!



A careful study of all the Gospels together already shows they're complementary. Each person says what he knows while others provide more details for the same event. This is typical of all reports made by men for every event that happens. The typical tabloids are classical examples.

That crëtin called AntiChristian is marketing fake product. He's pained Christ body is growing better. Na jealousy dey wound him.

Padipadi:
That crëtin called AntiChristian is marketing fake product. He's pained Christ body is growing better. Na jealousy dey wound him.

Christ body is growing better?
Abeg! Don't patronise me!

With all these atheists in Christian bodies around? Sorry for the delusion!

Padipadi:
You v said it all. Word of God (the Holy Bible) has error. It camevfrom ya reprobate mind. Continue!
You wey nor get original market dey discredit original with ya fake product.
You ll porknose and enter any religious matter fanning hate and discord. You chose the wrong moniker roaming around. Allah dey see you dey smile waiting for ya repentance.

Which is correct and which is not?

AntiChristian:
Christ body is growing better?
Abeg! Don't patronise me!

With all these atheists in Christian bodies around? Sorry for the delusion!

Onward Christian Soldiers. Go n download that song. Let it give you trauma all ya life!
Meanwhile, DSS dey laugh at ya miserable life. You're a terrorist!

AntiChristian:
Which is correct and which is not?

Bible

GothamCities:
Yes, the word of God is the hidden message of love that the Bible carries. Not the letters that were written.

Hidden message? Who hid the message? Jesus or God? Where and when was it hidden? Why was it hidden?

So which of them didn't mention King of the Jews?

Only one did mention it. Others mentioned more than that! That's settled.

Lies!

Mohammed explicitly said the sister of Aaron was the mother of Jesus. That coverup of the lies holds no water. Mohammed should have boldly followed the fellow to go explain that to the Jews if he was sure of himself!

It would be a lie since the holy spirit is useless in guiding you in this regards. Which Jew should he explain it to? It was a Christian monk who asked a companion of the Prophet! And he answered well. This is why I always say most of you are hypocrites!

You have failed to show me any error so far!

A careful study of all the Gospels together already shows they're complementary. Each person says what he knows while others provide more details for the same event. This is typical of all reports made by men for every event that happens. The typical tabloids are classical examples.

Tabloids are not the word of your God nor claimed to be guided by the holy spirit. It's alright if you don't see anything!

Padipadi:
Bible

Which Bible? Catholic or Protestant Bible?

Padipadi:
Onward Christian Soldiers. Go n download that song. Let it give you trauma all ya life!
Meanwhile, DSS dey laugh at ya miserable life. You're a terrorist!

Song? Did Jesus sang it?

I have never met DSS so why this lie?

How am I a terrorist did I kill you or any of your people?

AntiChristian:
Hidden message? Who hid the message? Jesus or God? Where and when was it hidden? Why was it hidden?

The Word of God is deep. It is called Living Water. The letters are on the surface for shallow and canal minds like you to stumble at. Genuine seekers dig deeper and find Gold. The letters are not the Word of God. You don't have the Word of God until you have the revelation or heaven.

Only one did mention it. Others mentioned more than that! That's settled.

Can you see systematic lying? Which of them did not mention "King of the Jews"!

It would be a lie since the holy spirit is useless in guiding you in this regards. Which Jew should he explain it to? It was a Christian monk who asked a companion of the Prophet! And he answered well. This is why I always say most of you are hypocrites!

He a sweet falsely. Mohammed has been known for falsehoods and coverups. He said Mariam the sister of Aaron was the mother of Jesus. Mariam is not the mother of Jesus biologically, chronologically or in any figure of speech. They do not belong to the same lineage and Mariam was never regarded as a mother of Israel in any sense of the word for her to have been called the mother of Jesus. Mohammed was just a pathological liar.

Tabloids are not the word of your God nor claimed to be guided by the holy spirit. It's alright if you don't see anything!

Tabloids are not the word of God but the same principles apply. Tabloids are written by men, the Bible was written by men. Men are not perfect in knowledge, hence, they complement each other when they write individually on the same topic!

AntiChristian:
Which Bible? Catholic or Protestant Bible?

All Bible pointed towards a supreme bring which is Jehovah, Yahweh, Osanobua, Allah etc. Getout n scavenge for food

AntiChristian:
Song? Did Jesus sang it?

I have never met DSS so why this lie?

How am I a terrorist did I kill you or any of your people?

DSS see meat

I don't even know what weed you're on?

How old are you?

Padipadi:
DSS see meat

Padipadi:
All Bible pointed towards a supreme bring which is Jehovah, Yahweh, Osanobua, Allah etc. Getout n scavenge for food

AntiChristian:
I don't even know what weed you're on?

How old are you?

I m just 12. You nko?
Foetus. Mûmuboy on weed!

AntiChristian:
Abeg, it does matter!

If you're asked what the inscription on the cross is you can only give one of those options!

Which makes others wrong!

Was "Nazareth" written on the cross?

I know where this will end!

Paul's the letter killeth and I need the holy spirit to explain things to me!

Why didn't the holy spirit correct Matthew, Mark, Luke and John to write the correct inscription?

All of them are different! Each having a 0.25 probability of being true! That's a low possibility!

How many languages was the inscription written?

SIRTee15:
How many languages was the inscription written?

How's that our business? I am talking about the inscription and you are trying to divert to another thing!

Which of them is true? Which are wrong?

Are all of them true to you too?