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FourQu:
So UltraSolid tried to play on our intelligence here?
Chai, what a bateria

Even I am stunned by the many Bullsheet claims he made. Imagine the audacity of the 419 attempt 😩😩😩😩

blacknp:
Poor Man know your level, incoherent wailers Bola Tinubu is your Master, acknowledge this & know peace.

Yes i agree tpain is a master criminal.Bt wait,u tink u get money pass me becos we dey social media dopemu

Bigkoko:
The mere fact that a foreign intelligience agency CIA, known to go rogue sometimes having a file on a president is reasons...alone to IMPEACH ASIWAJU

CIA has a file on Peter Obi, Atiku or anyone with a realistic chance of ever becoming Nigeria's president. In addition, Met Police has a file on Peter Obi.

Bebigiby1:
The joke is on you.... Your personal attacks can not remove Tinubu's baggages, a dubious personality like him is not fit to be Nigeria's president in my opinion... I made a resolution in my post that I believe will benefit all Nigerians including you yet you are so bitter that you are quick to resort to insulting me.... Nigeria needs to be restructured or divided so that you can avoid the emotional bitterness you exhibiting here..... It needs to happen so that you can be happy having Tinubu as your leader in your region and others moving on to choose who they like as their leader.....

It's just what it is. Whether you like it or not your opinion stinks of your tribal bias. Go and purge yourself first before pointing fingers. 😁

Kdon2:
It's just what it is. Whether you like it or not your opinion stinks of your tribal bias. Go and purge yourself first before pointing fingers. 😁

The guy is a grade A clown. He makes suggestions even a kid can deduce Tinubu is already actualising. It is only tribal hatred that has induced the pretence mental block he uses to feign ignorance of what PBAT is doing we can all see.

The problem with these people who are driven by hate, haven suggested all manners of ways for the ousting of Tinubu, from coup to violent people's revolution and even poisoning, is that they believe others will view them objective lovers of the "Zoo" once they pretend to be proferring solutions.

They are too intellectually inferior, for example, to note that suggesting a solution others are already enacting simply marks them out as hater who have issues. Ndi emergency lovers of the "Zoo" lol.

UltraSolid:
The guy is a grade A clown. He makes suggestions even a kid can deduce Tinubu is already actualising. It is only tribal hatred that has induced the pretence mental block he uses to feign ignorance of what PBAT is doing we can all see.

The problem with these people who are driven by hate, haven suggested all manners of ways for the ousting of Tinubu, from coup to violent people's revolution and even poisoning, is that they believe others will view them objective lovers of the "Zoo" once they pretend to be proferring solutions.

They are too intellectually inferior, for example, to note that suggesting a solution others are already enacting simply marks them out as hater who have issues. Ndi emergency lovers of the "Zoo" lol.

Thanks bro

Kdon2:
Thanks bro

You're welcomed. They are clowns Bro. The most toxic, divisive, covetous, greedy and hatefully problematic folks in Nigeria by miles. History bears out the problems they have caused for Nigeria and continue to cause unrepentantly.

Look at Japan and Germany. After the second World War, as a show of sane contrition, both nation became pacifist and inwardly looking. You can hardly drag either into conflict today because, as people who are not sociopathic, they understand and regret the devastation and pain their past action caused.

Contrast with those who caused a devastating civil war and, in confirmation of their sociopathic aberrancy as human beings, are at it again today goading Nigeria with IPOB lunacy berthed around the provocative summary execution of our armed forces personnel in the SE, wanton killings of innocent Nigerians and unconstitutional hijack of power, with sit at home Etal, as they did when Ojukwu announced Biafra to then precipitate the civil war.

If Nigeria were to go guns blazing into the SE, they will begin to play victim as they did after causing the civil war. These people are the biggest problem of Nigeria and we really should let them go so Nigeria can thrive and finally be rid of their hateful toxicity.

UltraSolid:
You're welcomed. They are clowns Bro. The most toxic, divisive, covetous, greedy and hatefully problematic folks in Nigeria by miles. History bears out the problems they have caused for Nigeria and continue to cause unrepentantly.

Look at Japan and Germany. After the second World War, as a show of sane contrition, both nation became pacifist and inwardly looking. You can hardly drag either into conflict today because, as people who are not sociopathic, they understand and regret the devastation and pain their past action caused.

Contrast with those who caused a devastating civil war and, in confirmation of their sociopathic aberrancy as human beings, are at it again today goading Nigeria with IPOB lunacy berthed around the provocative summary execution of our armed forces personnel in the SE, wanton killings of innocent Nigerians and unconstitutional hijack of power, with sit at home Etal, as they did when Ojukwu announced Biafra to then precipitate the civil war.

If Nigeria were to go guns blazing into the SE, they will begin to play victim as they did after causing the civil war. These people are the biggest problem of Nigeria and we really should let them go so Nigeria can thrive and finally be rid of their hateful toxicity.

I can't agree more. They just naturally destructive of anything that comes their ways.

No sane African country will allow a compromised and dubious character such as Tinubu to become or remain as president over these international embarrassments....

Bigkoko:
The mere fact that a foreign intelligience agency CIA, known to go rogue sometimes having a file on a president is reasons...alone to IMPEACH ASIWAJU

Bebigiby1:
■ ... You see the reason I blame the system is because of every day observable practical experiences on how Nigerians react to issues of governance..... Many Nigerians are helplessly tribalist when it comes to analysing national political events and issues of corruption involving government officers like president or governors.... Weakening the center and decentralizing political power to regions/states is not a silver bullet that will make all these selfish biases go away but I believe it will reduce it
■ because then it will no longer be an issue of "....you're criticizing Tinubu because your Obi who is your tribesman did not become president wailer!...." or ".... it is good that Tinubu as president is appointing only Yoruba into his government, you will wail for eternity...." even when there are clear reasons to criticize the actions of government, such divisive destructive rhetorics, comments like these and so many other hurtful actions that Nigerians do to each other have overtime have caused irreparable distrust and damage to the little gains made towards unity that existed during Obasanjo, Yaradua and Jonathan's government....
■ There is need for an overhaul of the system that will create the opportunity to depolarize and de-escalate..... There is a vast difference between each region as regards, tribal, religious and cultural values, these diversities have overtime been weaponized mainly by politicians to drive a false narrative that has succeeded in dividing the people to a point that many Nigerians in the southern part of country do not see any uniting factor between them and those in the northern part.... These same sentiment is shared by majority of those in north for obvious reasons.....
■ You made a great point regarding Nigeria's societal and educational value system which I agree but I think if Nigeria is restructured or divided, the social and economic competition it will bring among the regions especially at the grass root levels will go a long way in addressing this.... The prolonged polarization using divisive tribalistic religious propaganda coupled with the impunity exhibited by unrepentant looters (politicians) who steal public funds and get away with it, did a lot of damage to Nigeria's moral value system....
■ Nigeria needs a structural reset to heal.... Looking at some terrible tribal induced hateful comments on this thread alone, you can see that no genuine progress can be made as hateful tribalism has eaten deep into many Nigerians.... How do you explain it that there are still many people supporting the callous government that is inflicting pain on them without looking stupid....? Only a partial or full separation can restore some kind of sanity to what is happening in Nigeria....

1. I don't understand what you mean by weakening and decentralizing the center. Explain this to us in better detail abeg!

2. So, you wish for this weakening and decentralization so that you can win battles against tribalists/racists whom you love to engage?

These connections you make really make little sense to me is the problem. I am not at all bothered by those supposed hurtful remarks because I am mature enough to understand that those who worship these politicians do so because of stomach infrastructure. If they had better opportunities and jobs, and the nation was instead headed in the right direction, many of them would have no reason to debase themselves in that manner. So, you can imagine how you suggest that weakening and decentralizing the system would somehow make them go away so you can feel better.

3. The vast difference between the regions is known however, the benefits of these differences are nowhere to be found. If you go to every one of the 774 LGAs in Nigeria, you find that not a single one of the differences you listed there has provided any economic, social, or educational advantage or benefit to the people at that level. Go further into the villages and you find that those differences have no real meaning to and in the lives of the people. So, why should a nation be divided along and for the sake of those same meaningless ideas?

4. There you go again jumping to a disconnected conclusion as before. How in the world will restructuring Nigeria positively impact the educational and societal damage that is Nigeria and the minds of individual Nigerians? I keep repeating that your solution is not born of logic but rather some idea you seem to have been indoctrinated with. That is the only conclusion I can reach at this point regarding it.

5. Heal? You say that as if Nigeria is at war! There is no war and there has been one in over 50 years. There is no healing to fix the mess that is the mind of Nigerians from North to South, East to West. Yes, the nation needs a reboot but as it is that reboot can only happen if an educational and value re-orientation takes place. Otherwise, this country is headed to becoming a failed state and will remain so until a different generation sits up to accomplish that which their ancestors failed to.

Bebigiby1:
I know that is why I am making the case for Nigerians to restructure or divide the country so you can enjoy your president in peace and let others who do not want him to move on.....

Present your case to the Senate and court

I disagree, restructuring will depolarize and de-escalate the hate among Nigerians..... There is currently an artificial cosmetic unity that seem to only exist on paper.... Many Nigerians are now too divided to be objective in addressing national issues.... they are constantly been manipulated on tribal grounds by evil politicians running this flawed centralized power structure that exists today as Nigeria's government .... This is why decentralizing power, restructuring or a breakup of the country is an inevitable cause that will guarantee that power is restored to the indigenous people of each region to enable them develop at their own pace, hold their leaders accountable without the noise or hateful divisive propaganda that exists today....

Difrent:
No
What we need is a change of heart by both those in position of authority and the citizens .

If you restructure , isn't it same Nigerians that will be in charge?
You just simply change one set of thieves for another, with restructuring you just widen the scope and make more money available to be stolen

Bebigiby1:
Earlier today, news of an update regarding David Hundeyin's FOIA disclosure case on Tinubu was published by many news websites.

In the filing, the CIA effectively confirmed that Nigeria's sitting president is an active CIA asset. An excerpt from the CIA filing reads:

"As such, confirming or denying the existence of records on a particular foreign national, like Tinubu, reasonably could be expected to cause damage to U.S. national security by indicating whether or not the CIA maintained any human intelligence sources related to Tinubu, and identifying any access or lack of access any such sources had to intelligence concerning him."

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CIA said they are "not confirming or denying" and Hundeyin's interpretes that as "effectively confirmed".

Does Hundeyin's understand the English language at all? CIA will say the same thing even about Hundeyin himself, they will say it about, for example, Believeintruth.

What they said no more means they are confirming than it means they are denying.

Hundeyin better be careful, CIA are not the ones he should be playing with and to use to try and scam Obidients in his quest to get money from them.

Okay "weakening and decentralizing the center" means at it's core economic regional/states autonomy which at the primary phase includes the following, granting regions/states 100% ownership and control of their resources, granting regions/states independence to security (Regional/State Security systems like state police), downsize/abolish federal legislative body, improving regional/states legislative body powers to be more independent..... Then at the secondary phase, you get the following, creating a new people backed constitution, national referendum geared towards fostering peace to allow any region that wants to leave to do so.... These are some of what I believe should be done as part of the restructuring process....

You said "....I am not at all bothered by those supposed hurtful remarks because I am mature enough to understand that those who worship these politicians do so because of stomach infrastructure. If they had better opportunities and jobs, and the nation was instead headed in the right direction, many of them would have no reason to debase themselves in that manner....

Yes the hurtful tribal divisive remarks made daily on this platform by tribal champions, political agents and manipulators may not bother you personally but it should bother you when you look at it from a broader perspective.... Many Nigerians visit this platform to consume news and shape their opinion especially on national issues.... You may be matured enough not to fall for such divisive propaganda peddled here but there are many who are not so matured or too sentimental to read between the lines, they are caught up in the web of tribal political psychosis which overtime spreads from these online platforms to offline and continues the vicious divisive cycle that only favors corrupt evil politicians..... These hurtful divisive manipulative tribalistic comments which most times are based on outright lies are numerous on this platform and so many other platforms (Both online and offline), coupled with the high level of illiteracy, lack of critcal thinking abilities are some of the main reasons why many Nigerians are now too sentimentally hateful, too divided to be objective in addressing national issues.... many are too distracted on trivial issues over holding the callous government accountable....

Your comment ".....So, you can imagine how you suggest that weakening and decentralizing the system would somehow make them go away so you can feel better...." The truth is that we can not all always agree, my objective for supporting decentralization is not to silence ciritics or make myself feel good as you may presume.... It is about national progress and development.... There is nothing more frustrating, retrogressive and counter productive than what Nigerians are experiencing now.... The environment is too toxic to allow sanity to prevail.... Many Nigerians are too tribally distrustful and pained to see themselves working towards advancing the "One Nigeria" project.... Buhari and Tinubu's corrupt nepotistic mindset, coupled with their APC governments woeful performance, divisive policies, propaganda did incomprehensible damage to Nigeria's unity and I am happy you agree with me that a national reset is needed....

In your third submission, you made a stong argument when you said "....The vast difference between the regions is known however, the benefits of these differences are nowhere to be found. If you go to every one of the 774 LGAs in Nigeria, you find that not a single one of the differences you listed there has provided any economic, social, or educational advantage or benefit to the people at that level. Go further into the villages and you find that those differences have no real meaning to and in the lives of the people. So, why should a nation be divided along and for the sake of those same meaningless ideas?...."

Based on your argument, I will say the nature of the current political governing system is the root problem why 774 LGAs are in a bad state.... You may ask why do I say this.... It is simply because it is a case of who has the "Yam" and the "Knife".... the current flawed centralized power structure that is been adopted within the various tiers of government including the state levels favours impunity and does not foster accountability.... You've a situation where just like the president at the federal level, state governors are smaller gods in their various states who can hijack and do whatever they like with funds meant for local governments while hiding under FAAC and other federal limitations as some of the reasons for their incompetence... the mass political pyschosis I mentioned earlier that has taken root in the minds of many Nigerians towards the center (Federal Government) due to tribal religious sentiments will not allow Nigerians at the state level to hold these state governors accountable while the overwhelming influence of the all powerful federal government as regards state security and resource control will only reinforce that notion that federal government is to blame... it is a sad vicious cycle that only guarantees that little or no developments occurs at the LGAs....

In your final submission you said "....There is no healing to fix the mess that is the mind of Nigerians from North to South, East to West. Yes, the nation needs a reboot but as it is that reboot can only happen if an educational and value re-orientation takes place. Otherwise, this country is headed to becoming a failed state and will remain so until a different generation sits up to accomplish that which their ancestors failed to...."

Yes a sound educational system is needed to advance and liberate the minds of Nigerians but you can not get a quality educational system without good governance.... To get good governance you need a fair transparent effective governing system that accomodates the diversity of Nigeria... The current unitary centralized governing system has failed and can not work now due to the irreparable damage done as a result of polarization of certain evil divisive vices like hateful tribalism and religious bigotry that continues to weaken the people's resolve to agitate with one voice for good governance. I believe that it is only through restructuring or disintegration (dividing the country) can such vices be tamed and effective governing system be restored... Nigeria's unity has been battered to the extent that what is obtainable now is an artificial cosmetic unity which seem to only exist on paper.... decentralizing political power by restructuring or breaking up the country is an inevitable cause that will guarantee that good governance is attainable at the grass root as political and economic power will be restored to the indigenous people of each region to enable them develop at their own pace and hold their leaders accountable without the noise or deep rooted hateful divisive propaganda that exists today.... I may be wrong but I think Nigerians will be better off in a decentralized system.... I hope Nigerians can fight for this instead of waiting to vote in another hopeless electoral exercise in 2027....

Kobojunkie:
1. I don't understand what you mean by weakening and decentralizing the center. Explain this to us in better detail abeg!

2. So, you wish for this weakening and decentralization so that you can win battles against tribalists/racists whom you love to engage?

These connections you make really make little sense to me is the problem. I am not at all bothered by those supposed hurtful remarks because I am mature enough to understand that those who worship these politicians do so because of stomach infrastructure. If they had better opportunities and jobs, and the nation was instead headed in the right direction, many of them would have no reason to debase themselves in that manner. So, you can imagine how you suggest that weakening and decentralizing the system would somehow make them go away so you can feel better.

3. The vast difference between the regions is known however, the benefits of these differences are nowhere to be found. If you go to every one of the 774 LGAs in Nigeria, you find that not a single one of the differences you listed there has provided any economic, social, or educational advantage or benefit to the people at that level. Go further into the villages and you find that those differences have no real meaning to and in the lives of the people. So, why should a nation be divided along and for the sake of those same meaningless ideas?

4. There you go again jumping to a disconnected conclusion as before. How in the world will restructuring Nigeria positively impact the educational and societal damage that is Nigeria and the minds of individual Nigerians? I keep repeating that your solution is not born of logic but rather some idea you seem to have been indoctrinated with. That is the only conclusion I can reach at this point regarding it.

5. Heal? You say that as if Nigeria is at war! There is no war and there has been one in over 50 years. There is no healing to fix the mess that is the mind of Nigerians from North to South, East to West. Yes, the nation needs a reboot but as it is that reboot can only happen if an educational and value re-orientation takes place. Otherwise, this country is headed to becoming a failed state and will remain so until a different generation sits up to accomplish that which their ancestors failed to.

I am not a legislator neither am I a lawyer, if you agree with any of the points i made here and you've the connection, may be you can take it up to the Senate and court thanks....

Abbeytoy:
Present your case to the Senate and court

Yes they did not confirm or deny it but you need to consider the premise on which the FOIA inquiry was made..... You said "....Does Hundeyin's understand the English language at all? CIA will say the same thing even about Hundeyin himself, they will say it about, for example, Believeintruth....." They may say the same thing for Hundeyin but Hundeyin or Believeintruth has no pre-existing drug related case or any other criminal history.... It is not the same thing.....




as it relates to Tinubu's drug criminal history....

aswani:
In the filing, the CIA effectively confirmed that Nigeria's sitting president is an active CIA asset. An excerpt from the CIA filing reads:

"As such, confirming or denying the existence of records on a particular foreign national, like Tinubu, reasonably could be expected to cause damage to U.S. national security by indicating whether or not the CIA maintained any human intelligence sources related to Tinubu, and identifying any access or lack of access any such sources had to intelligence concerning him."

CIA said they are "not confirming or denying" and Hundeyin's interpretes that as "effectively confirmed".

Does Hundeyin's understand the English language at all? CIA will say the same thing even about Hundeyin himself, they will say it about, for example, Believeintruth.

What they said no more means they are confirming than it means they are denying.

Hundeyin better be careful, CIA are not the ones he should be playing with and to use to try and scam Obidients in his quest to get money from them.

Bebigiby1:
Yes they did not confirm or deny it but you need to consider the premise on which the FOIA inquiry was made..... You said "....Does Hundeyin's understand the English language at all? CIA will say the same thing even about Hundeyin himself, they will say it about, for example, Believeintruth....." They may say the same thing for Hundeyin but Hundeyin or Believeintruth has no pre-existing drug related case or any other criminal history.... It is not the same thing.....

as it relates to Tinubu's drug criminal history....

I am not sure I understand you fully but I'll try and respond based on what I think you are saying.

Hundeyin is making conclusions on President Tinubu being a CIA asset based on what CIA did not say.

They will say the same about anyone, regardless of criminal history, in fact I have a feeling that response is a standard one. To paraphrase "we will not disclose if this person is an asset or not because it could harm our current or future operations".

As has been stated many times, President Tinubu has no criminal history, his forfeiture is the same, in US at least, as a parking fine in the eyes of the law (obviously amounts are different). Please Google "forfeiture in US" to see the various types of forfeiture.

I am not defending President Tinubu by the way, all I am saying is that Hundeyin is being needlessly and deliberately cute with his words and I can see through it.

Bebigiby1:
I am not a legislator, neither am I a lawyer; if you agree with any of the points I made here and you have the connection, maybe you can take it up to the Senate and court, thanks...

I agree with it, but nothing can be done without taking the steps I mentioned.

I don't know anyone either.

I sometimes wonder if this Asiwaju has shame at all..... This was how that Daura fool cried...on stage that he wants to be president..after 8 years, the idiot can not even move freely outside his house.

This emiloka fool promptly step in..now see!

Bebigiby1:
No sane African country will allow a compromised and dubious character such as Tinubu to become or remain as president over these international embarrassments....