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Democracy was restored to Nigeria in 1999. So it is highly embarrassing that in 25 years, certain things Nigeria should have changed to show the world that it is a serious country, have remained unchanged. Three examples of these are:

(1) It is highly embarrassing and a national shame that Nigerian elections have become the laughing stock of Africa. In 25 years, we have not managed to conduct a single transparent credible National election. Billions have been spent, several laws have been passed. But Nigerian elections have been characterised by thuggery, violence, death, vote buying, intimidation, bribery, falsification of results and abuse of power. At a time when many African countries are receiving accolades for conducting credible elections, Nigeria is no where to seen. How can you be doing this for 25 years with no change?

(2) Nigeria operates on the 1999 constitution. What some people may not know is that this 1999 constitution is nothing but Decree 24 of of the General Abdusalami admistration. What does it take to hold a National Sovereign Conference where the ethnic nationalities that make up Nigeria, or their representatives, gather to discuss the terms of engagement, and fashion out a constitution agreed to by the people? In a serious country, this can take only 6 months, or a year at most. But 25 years on, we are still operating a Military Decree as our constitution.

(3) It is Shocking that in 25 years, we are still calling ourselves "Nigeria", a colonial name a white woman created in London. It is embarrassing that almost 70 years after Ghana threw away its colonial name "Gold Coast", and adopted "Ghana", meaning "Warrior" in their local language, we are still walking around proudly calling our selves "Nigerian", a name that was made in London, imported into West Africa, and forcefully imposed on us all. But I understand that because we can't find any point of unity, we have to keep bearing a ridiculous colonial name as our national identity

Tell us what you have changed in your region in the last 25 years?

You can't be having solutions for others but just clueless in solving yours

helinues:
Tell us what you have changed in your region in the last 25 years?

You can't be having solutions for others but just clueless in solving yours

His region is doing well enough, but the bad weight of Nigeria is pulling everything down. His region is currently the most progressive, the safest and the fastest developing in the past 25 years, despite the sponsored attacks on it.

vanbonattel:
His region is doing well enough, but the bad weight of Nigeria is pulling everything down. His region is currently the most progressive, the safest and the fastest developing in the past 25 years, despite the sponsored attacks on it.

Seems safety and progress has lost its meaning.

1. Nigeria election is not a laughing stock of Africa, while u Nigerians choose to be magnifying and projecting the wrongs that happened in our elections, it is not the laughing stock of Africa, it is u pàthètic Iosers that likes painting everything bàd, that is a clear sign of the kind of citizens we have and a country with citizens Iike u can NEVER progress.

2. I have seen people especially lgb0s crîtîcîzing the 1999 constitution and calling it all sorts of names, I have always asked, what exactly is wrong with the constitution, quote the sections that are wrong or tell us what's wrong, ironically, I have never seen one, I mean just one to tell us what is wrong with it, it's just a talk that keeps passing down from one to another.
What has ur senators and HOR don about it?
in serious countries, citizens gather to form associations to drive the societal interest and growth, in Nigeria, we see citizens who are only good at talking and abusing their country instead of working like citizens of serious countries they always like to talk about do
3. Few years ago, the legislative arm proposed that the name Nigeria be changed, Nigerians turned it to mockery on the internet and started cûrsing the national assembly and called them all sorts of names and even called the action "misplaced priorities", but as usual, confused people have started saying that why are we not changing name.

Side note: since Ghana changed it's name, what growth have they experienced?



The problem of u Nigerians is that u think u all know the metrics for growth whereas u are mostly confused.
In a serious country, citizens who claim to love their country like Nigerians do form unions, form associations, clubs and outfits to drive what they feel, know and think will make fro growth, but what we have in Nigeria is that the àvèragè IiabiIity thinks he/she is sophisticated, they only take to social media, post, insuIt and cûrsè, these are the IiabiIities that our motherland has been dealing with for decades.

JagabanBorgu:
Seems safety and progress has lost its meaning.

To propagandists like you, yes.

vanbonattel:
To propagandists like you, yes.

A propagandist thinks everyone is like him, unfortunately, I'm not like u.

gidgiddy:
Democracy was restored to Nigeria in 1999. So it is highly embarrassing that in 25 years, certain things Nigeria should have changed to show the world that it is a serious country, have remained unchanged. Three examples of these are:

(1) It is highly embarrassing and a national shame that Nigerian elections have become the laughing stock of Africa. In 25 years, we have not managed to conduct a single transparent credible National election. Billions have been spent, several laws have been passed. But Nigerian elections have been characterised by thuggery, violence, death, vote buying, intimidation, bribery, falsification of results and abuse of power. At a time when many African countries are receiving accolades for conducting credible elections, Nigeria is no where to seen. How can you be doing this for 25 years with no change?

(2) Nigeria operates on the 1999 constitution. What some people may not know is this 1999 constitution is nothing but Decree 24 of of the General Abdusalami admistration. What does it take to hold a National Sovereign Conference where the ethnic nationalities that make up Nigeria, or their representatives, gather to discuss the terms of engagement, and fashion out a constitution agreed to by the people? In a serious country, this can take only 6 months, or a year at most. But 25 years on, we are still operating a Military Decree as our constitution.

(3) It is Shocking that in 25 years, we are still calling ourselves "Nigeria", a colonial name a white woman created in London. It is embarrassing that almost 70 years after Ghana threw away its colonial name "Gold Coast", and adopted "Ghana", meaning "Warrior" in their local language, we are still walking around proudly calling our selves "Nigerian", a name that was made in London, imported into West Africa, and forcefully imposed on us all. But I understand that because we can't find any point of unity, we have to keep bearing a ridiculous colonial name as our national identity

Since you have admitted that it was a mistake of your birth in the Federal Republic of Nigeria, so who are you blaming for that?

vanbonattel:
To propagandists like you, yes.

Sharap.

JagabanBorgu:
Seems safety and progress has lost its meaning.

It's interesting the kind of things that trigger you to go on a rant! You ignored the submission of the OP just to focus on a poster who was replying another diversionary poster like you! You probably secretly agree with the OP (there's still hope for you yet) and was looking for a way to derail the topic!

vanbonattel:
His region is doing well enough, but the bad weight of Nigeria is pulling everything down. His region is currently the most progressive, the safest and the fastest developing in the past 25 years, despite the sponsored attacks on it.

Doing well as how?

With all the killing every week, and economic lockdown every Monday

Face it, Igboland is below the poverty line with the lowest GDP of all regions, the South East is basically a pile of erosion savaged lands.

helinues:
Tell us what you have changed in your region in the last 25 years?

You can't be having solutions for others but just clueless in solving yours

This here is the problem. Ethnic and religious bigotry beclouud even those you thought were educated. Spits on you all. Nigeria can never experience greatness at this level of bigotry and this type of hypocrisy.

The election part is painful. Spend billion to end up giving us a terrible election.

How can you spend billions on technology that you won't rely on to verify results? Why would our court rubbish technology in the dispense of justice in the name of technology not being part of our electoral laws? Scrap it!

INEC
Judiciary
Police, these are the 3 that would cause revelation in Nigeria.

Validated:
This here is the problem. Ethnic and religious bigotry beclouud even those you thought were educated. Spits on you all. Nigeria can never experience greatness at this level of bigotry and this type of hypocrisy.

Mr snail spitting ,answer the simple question

IGBOPROMISE1:
It's interesting the kind of things that trigger you to go on a rant! You ignored the submission of the OP just to focus on a poster who was replying another diversionary poster like you! You probably secretly agree with the OP (there's still hope for you yet) and was looking for a way to derail the topic!

A sentence qualifies to be a rant in the school u attended?
U are bIind that u didn't see my reply to the poster?
Pàthètic

JagabanBorgu:
A sentence qualifies to be a rant in the school u attended?
U are bIind that u didn't see my reply to the poster?
Pàthètic

What's pathetic is you opening the thread....not having anything to say about the original post, but getting triggered to open your bigoted, Igbo-hating mouth to react only when someone says something in defense of his own ethnicity!

This is the post that got your knickers in a twist:

His region is doing well enough, but the bad weight of Nigeria is pulling everything down. His region is currently the most progressive, the safest and the fastest developing in the past 25 years, despite the sponsored attacks on it.

Now tell us why such a post got you so rilled up!

Warrior99:
Doing well as how?

With all the killing every week, and economic lockdown every Monday

Face it, Igboland is below the poverty line with the lowest GDP of all regions, the South East is basically a pile of erosion savaged lands.

The last time I checked south east had the lowest population of poor people in Nigeria, what does below the poverty line mean to you? It means GDP?

IGBOPROMISE1:
What's pathetic is you opening the thread....not having anything to say about the original post, but getting triggered to open your bigoted, Igbo-hating mouth to react only when someone says something in defense of his own ethnicity!

This is the post that got your knickers in a twist:

Now tell us why such a post got you so rilled up!

Tell me why my reply is giving u sleepless nights.
I'm patiently waiting.
Also tell me if the pain is so severe that u can't see my reply to the original post.

JagabanBorgu:
Tell me why my reply is giving u sleepless nights.
I'm patiently waiting.
Also tell me if the pain is so severe that u can't see my reply to the original post.

‘Sleepless nights’!? Far from it mate! Though i do admit i’m curious as to how a grown ass man can harbour such intense hatred for an entire ethnic group while at the same time cheerleading for a questionable character and crass bigot like Tinubu!

My interest in this thread was piqued when i saw your INITIAL reply to someone who was standing up for his people against a known troll….someone who said NOTHING disparaging about your own ethnicity! That you saw his post as the first one to reply to says everything about you and your state of mind!

IGBOPROMISE1:
‘Sleepless nights’!? Far from it mate! Though i do admit i’m curious as to how a grown ass man can harbour such intense hatred for an entire ethnic group while at the same time cheerleading for a questionable character and crass bigot like Tinubu!

My interest in this thread was piqued when i saw your INITIAL reply to someone who was standing up for his people against a known troll….someone who said NOTHING disparaging about your own ethnicity! That you saw his post as the first one to reply to says everything about you and your state of mind!

Is this question coming from someone who comes from a trîbè that's weII seasoned in the act of hàtè?

JagabanBorgu:
Is this question coming from someone who comes from a trîbè that's weII seasoned in the act of hàtè?

Nope! It's coming from someone from a 'tribe' that's been at the receiving end of YOUR hate and bile from the 60s to date! Just how have Ndigbo been 'hateful'?

IGBOPROMISE1:
Nope! It's coming from someone from a 'tribe' that's been at the receiving end of YOUR hate and bile from the 60s to date! Just how have Ndigbo been 'hateful'?

TribaI tensions and ethnic cleansing started in 1966, guess who started it all?
Those claiming to be vîctîms today.
The whoIe probIem in Nigerîà today started with u lgb0s, the fact that secession is now treason was made by lgb0s, coup started which was fueled by tribaI hàtè and Ied to ethnic cleansing was done by lgb0s.
Centralization of resources was done by lgb0s, somehow, u were outsmarted in ur own schemes and then u started playing the vîctîms.

vanbonattel:
His region is doing well enough, but the bad weight of Nigeria is pulling everything down. His region is currently the most progressive, the safest and the fastest developing in the past 25 years, despite the sponsored attacks on it.

Sincerely, this is good news.

Please though, what yardstick are you using to determine their region is the most progressive, safest and fastest developing?

I am genuinely interested.

Warrior99:
Doing well as how?

With all the killing every week, and economic lockdown every Monday

Face it, Igboland is below the poverty line with the lowest GDP of all regions, the South East is basically a pile of erosion savaged lands.

Keep living in lalaland

JagabanBorgu:
TribaI tensions and ethnic cleansing started in 1966, guess who started it all?
Those claiming to be vîctîms today.
The whoIe probIem in Nigerîà today started with u lgb0s, the fact that secession is now treason was made by lgb0s, coup started which was fueled by tribaI hàtè and Ied to ethnic cleansing was done by lgb0s.
Centralization of resources was done by lgb0s, somehow, u were outsmarted in ur own schemes and then u started playing the vîctîms.

I knew you were a revisionist, thing is i didn't know your case was this bad!

True to type, you heap all Nigerias' problems on Ndigbo and cast us as the 'hateful ones'! I'd assume you're Yoruba until you claim otherwise!

You're a liar to sit on your scrawny ass and lie (on a sunday of all days) that 'ethnic cleansing started in 1966' and imply Ndigbo started it all! Can you pretend not to know of all the attacks against Easterners in the north prior to 1966? More importantly, can you pretend not to know that ethnic cleansing has persisted all over the north to this day, even as Ndigbo have been edged out of the political-equation by the Yoruba/Fulani hegemonic alliance?

https://www.hart-uk.org/blog/long-read-violence-in-nigerias-middle-belt-states-ethnic-and-religious-dimensions/
https://opendoorsanalytical.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Ethnic-cleansing-in-the-Middle-Belt-Region-of-Nigeria-2015.pdf
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/5/19/more-than-100-people-dead-in-communal-clashes-in-central-nigeria
https://www.worldwatchmonitor.org/2017/11/persistent-fulani-violence-indicates-ethnic-cleansing-nigerian-christians/

All these are happening ON YOUR WATCH, yet you have the temerity to open your mouth and imply Ndigbo, who have been and are still victims of attacks in your Nigeria, are the ones carrying out said pogrom on others! State in specific terms, and with links to independent sources that can corroborate your assertion, how Ndigbo have 'carried out ethnic-cleansing against other ethnicities'!

I really don't know how you can be so shameless as to lie that Ndigbo are 'the reason secession is treasonable in Nigeria today'! State specifically how Ndigbo managed to do this! I'm assuming you lot concede secession is ok (if you think secession is 'evil and bad' then equally tell us here), so how come now you're the ruling hegemony and in control of the centre but we're yet to see any support from you for secessionist groups!? Remember Ndigbo didn't hold a gun to anyones head when the current '99 constitution Nigeria operates was being cobbled together, so how come you couldn't include secession clause in it!? But going back to the initial '60 constitution, can you tell us how three regions came together pre-indpendence to agree on its articles and components, yet the 'wishes' of one took precedence over the wishes of the other two who you imply wanted the secession clause included!?

Nzeogwu and his idealistic gang carried out the initial coup! Can you tell us how you managed to interprete this as 'being done by Ndigbo'!? Remember before this coup the Eastern Region was doing well economically....was keeping 50% of proceeds from its revenue and was one of the fastest growing economic regions on earth! So why would they want to give this up for a centralised/unitary system of gov't in which the centre controls and keeps everything!? How does this make sense to you!?

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"......Indeed, according to the Investigator Report, “hostilities between federal Nigeria and the Republic of Biafra that
began in July 1967 served as a continuation of an intention to exterminate the Igbo people. The War was indeed
a Nigerian variant of what the Nazi called the “final solution” of the Jewish problem” (The International
Committee on the Investigation of Crimes of Genocide, 1968) (hereafter, Investigators Report)."

"......Several outbreaks of Nigerian hostility toward Biafrans occurred from time to time even during the British
colonial era. In 1945, northern Nigerians massacred Igbo resident in Jos. The British Administration did not “take
the matter seriously and did not even conduct an inquiry into the gruesome episode” (Nigeria-Biafra Conflict,
2011). A similar episode when northerners gruesomely massacred the Igbo took place in the city of Kano in
1953. This was also under the watch of the British and seven years before Nigeria became independent of British
rule......"

"......Andrew Brevin and David MacDonald, two members of the Canadian Parliament, on their return from Biafra,
“reported that genocide is in fact taking place.” One of them stated that “anybody who says there is no evidence
of genocide is either in the pay of Britain or being a deliberate fool” (American Committee on Africa, Relief
Memo #4, Nov. 1, 1968). And Lloyd Garrison wrote that: “the record shows that in Federal advances… thousands
of Ibo male civilians were sought out and slaughtered…” (NY Times Magazine, 31 Oct 1968, p. 92)......"

".......Debates in the Northern House of Assembly reveal the “depth of the
hatred and bitterness which Northern Nigerians nursed against Biafrans.” The following excerpts reveal the
passion with which the north and the west would pursue the de-Igbonization agenda. Speaking in the Northern
Region House of Assembly, Mallam Bashari Umaru suggested: “I would like (you), as the Minister of Land and
Survey, to revoke forthwith all certificates of occupancy from the hands of the Ibos resident in the region
(Applause)” (Investigators Report, 10-11). Mr. Megida Lawant concurred: “In fact it is quite a long time that we
in our part of this region have known the Ibos and I do not think that at the moment there is any Ibo man
owning a roof in Igbirra Division… I am appealing to the minister to make life more difficult for them” (Ibid).
Alhaji Yusufu Bayero spoke in these words:
Mr. Chairman, I would like to appeal to the Minister of Establishments and Training if he will appeal to
the Minister of Local Government about some employees who are Ibos and are working under some
Native Authorities here… I cannot see why they should be in our Region. We are all sure that they are
the poorest people in the country (Investigators Report, 10-11).
Alhaji Usman Liman (Sarkin Musawa) was applauded when he rhetorically questioned the House.
What brought the Ibos into this Region? They were here since the Colonial Days. Had it not been for the
Colonial Rule there would hardly have been any Ibo in this Region. Now that there is no Colonial Rule
the Ibo should go back to their Region. There should be no hesitation about this matter. Mr. Chairman,
North is for Northerners, East for Easterners, West for Westerners and the Federation is for all
(Investigators Report, 10–11)......"

https://epublications.marquette.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1145&context=hist_fac

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Ahmadu Bellos' interview. What do you think of it and can you find a similar rant by any notable Igbo politician of the period against the Fulani or Yoruba? Today we can see how this anti-Igbo obsession and hate has benefitted Ahamdu Bellos' north. Need i remind you this his north he wanted to keep for themselves is presently sharing disproportionately from proceeds of Nigerias' oil and gas industry....a significant amount which has come from *IGBOLAND (* note i said Igboland and not south-east)! In the light this kind of divisiveness and intolerance by one held up as one of the 'founding fathers of Nigeria' would you say those of us calling for either a sovereign national discussion or the outright dissolution of Nigeria are not right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_odAy4rVz8?si=yCqu6Kkm5YtH4b3Q

IGBOPROMISE1:
I knew you were a revisionist, thing is i didn't know your case was this bad!

True to type, you heap all Nigerias' problems on Ndigbo and cast us as the 'hateful ones'! I'd assume you're Yoruba until you claim otherwise!

You're a liar to sit on your scrawny ass and lie (on a sunday of all days) that 'ethnic cleansing started in 1966' and imply Ndigbo started it all! Can you pretend not to know of all the attacks against Easterners in the north prior to 1966? More importantly, can you pretend not to know that ethnic cleansing has persisted all over the north to this day, even as Ndigbo have been edged out of the political-equation by the Yoruba/Fulani hegemonic alliance?

https://www.hart-uk.org/blog/long-read-violence-in-nigerias-middle-belt-states-ethnic-and-religious-dimensions/
https://opendoorsanalytical.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Ethnic-cleansing-in-the-Middle-Belt-Region-of-Nigeria-2015.pdf
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/5/19/more-than-100-people-dead-in-communal-clashes-in-central-nigeria
https://www.worldwatchmonitor.org/2017/11/persistent-fulani-violence-indicates-ethnic-cleansing-nigerian-christians/

All these are happening ON YOUR WATCH, yet you have the temerity to open your mouth and imply Ndigbo, who have been and are still victims of attacks in your Nigeria, are the ones carrying out said pogrom on others! State in specific terms, and with links to independent sources that can corroborate your assertion, how Ndigbo have 'carried out ethnic-cleansing against other ethnicities'!

I really don't know how you can be so shameless as to lie that Ndigbo are 'the reason secession is treasonable in Nigeria today'! State specifically how Ndigbo managed to do this! I'm assuming you lot concede secession is ok (if you think secession is 'evil and bad' then equally tell us here), so how come now you're the ruling hegemony and in control of the centre but we're yet to see any support from you for secessionist groups!? Remember Ndigbo didn't hold a gun to anyones head when the current '99 constitution Nigeria operates was being cobbled together, so how come you couldn't include secession clause in it!? But going back to the initial '60 constitution, can you tell us how three regions came together pre-indpendence to agree on its articles and components, yet the 'wishes' of one took precedence over the wishes of the other two who you imply wanted the secession clause included!?

Nzeogwu and his idealistic gang carried out the initial coup! Can you tell us how you managed to interprete this as 'being done by Ndigbo'!? Remember before this coup the Eastern Region was doing well economically....was keeping 50% of proceeds from its revenue and was one of the fastest growing economic regions on earth! So why would they want to give this up for a centralised/unitary system of gov't in which the centre controls and keeps everything!? How does this make sense to you!?

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https://epublications.marquette.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1145&context=hist_fac

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Ahmadu Bellos' interview. What do you think of it and can you find a similar rant by any notable Igbo politician of the period against the Fulani or Yoruba? Today we can see how this anti-Igbo obsession and hate has benefitted Ahamdu Bellos' north. Need i remind you this his north he wanted to keep for themselves is presently sharing disproportionately from proceeds of Nigerias' oil and gas industry....a significant amount which has come from *IGBOLAND (* note i said Igboland and not south-east)! In the light this kind of divisiveness and intolerance by one held up as one of the 'founding fathers of Nigeria' would you say those of us calling for either a sovereign national discussion or the outright dissolution of Nigeria are not right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_odAy4rVz8?si=yCqu6Kkm5YtH4b3Q

You wrote all this epistle just to end up proving nothing?

JagabanBorgu:
You wrote all this epistle just to end up proving nothing?

Let's remind you again what your previous assertion was:

JagabanBorgu:
TribaI tensions and ethnic cleansing started in 1966, guess who started it all?
Those claiming to be vîctîms today.
The whoIe probIem in Nigerîà today started with u lgb0s, the fact that secession is now treason was made by lgb0s, coup started which was fueled by tribaI hàtè and Ied to ethnic cleansing was done by lgb0s.
Centralization of resources was done by lgb0s, somehow, u were outsmarted in ur own schemes and then u started playing the vîctîms.

Read my previous post again! If you can't see how it addressed your blatant lies and revisionism, then it's either you're too daft to comprehend or you're being deceitful! Tell me how Ndigbo have shown this 'hate' to others that you accuse them of!

IGBOPROMISE1:
Let's remind you again what your previous assertion was:



Read my previous post again! If you can't see how it addressed your blatant lies and revisionism, then it's either you're too daft to comprehend or you're being deceitful! Tell me how Ndigbo have shown this 'hate' to others that you accuse them of!

U can't erase ur lgb0 history, we all left this history all these years, u lots kept making moves that made us bring them out.

JagabanBorgu:
U can't erase ur lgb0 history, we all left this history all these years, u lots kept making moves that made us bring them out.

Horseshit! Answer the question with specifics....how have Ndigbo or any Igbo shown or visited this hate on others?