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FerrariE:
Don't mind dat guy. I'm still shocked at his comment and I think he lacks the intellectual capability to understand the preaching of Papa Oyedepo

jesusjnr2020:
Was David Abioye Spiritual Prowess Being Stifiled Under Oyedepo All These Years?

Despite hearing the name David Abioye for several decades, (which wasn't unusual being the second in command to David Oyedepo founder and GO of winners chapel), it was only recently after his forced retirement from the church, that I got to know what he looked like and also what he sounded like, and I must confess that in the few times I have heard him speaking, I have already been impressed with his level of spiritual depth and understanding.

It's profoundly strange that this was someone that was serving under David Oyedepo for so many years, yet I have never felt the same way about David Oyedepo despite hearing him preach countless times, including when I was still a member of CGM, and attended several annual conventions when he was invited as a guest speaker.

Even while I was yet a sinner and wasn't as spiritually discerning as I am now, but could still discern spiritually deep preaching and teachings from those which were shallow, I have never been impressed with Oyedepo's preaching or teaching, how much more after I have not only got saved but also born-again and begun to walk at the highest level of spiritual walk where it was all about God?

Yet I heard David Abioye speaking only a few occasions and was wondering if he was really the same person that was with Oyedepo all these years or if it was someone else.

It was indeed baffling and made me wonder if David Abioye's spiritual prowess and impact wasn't stifled all these years, and if it wouldn't have been much more beneficiary to God's Kingdom had he parted ways with the church much earlier, especially considering the way his loyalty and service to Oyedepo was being rewarded with retirement when he still had so much more to offer in the work of the kingdom.

He also appears to be thinking along these lines considering that he has already launched his own ministry shortly afterwards, so could it a case of waiting too long before doing the needful?

https://www.nairaland.com/8266565/bishop-abioye-begins-new-ministry


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y51et3odFCA

It's better late than never though, at least the world can finally get to hear and partake of the spiritual riches that David Abioye has got to offer without any more hinges.

God bless.

Daniel058:
These are men of God I can comfortably listen to their messages

David OGBUELI

Arome OSAYI

CHRIS OYAHKILOME

MICHAEL OROKPO

JOHN ANOSIKE

FEMI LAZARUS

JOEL OGEBE
LAWRENCE OYOR

ISAAC EFFA
APOSTLE VICTOR



The one I can really follow their teachings re just 3 ,DAVID OGBUELI, AROME OSAYI AND MICHAEL OROKPO

I can't really follow motivational speakers,they will end up making me feel that God does not exist

Coldspice:
After 65 years of service, person retire from Army. Next thing, e go collect Navy form.

yomi531:
U just said it all bros

Alliswell248:
God bless all his servants working tirelessly for His glory.
I respect all MOG, and I won't criticize them , pray for them, even if they did something wrong.....this is beyond me.

I love Oyedepo
I love Abioye
I love Eneche
I love Chris
I love every child of God.

Mummyfour:
if you want to know another pastor that preaches the sound undiluted word, check out pastor Peter Balogun of THE CITIZENS CHURCH ABUJA (TCC). That man is sound. Check him out on you tube. Or just The citizens church

bdon123:
I was a member of winners for so many yrs before i left dem wit their church business.I always preferred Abioye than Oyedepo.I hav know Abioye prowess for over 20yrs.Goto Goshen at Nasarawa state n see d crowd Abioye pulled after that church was established.That place floods like canaan land .Abioye na correct preacher i wont lie.

Kingosytex:
Many are of the opinion that Bishop Abioye is good, they may be right. Though, I've never listened to him.
I've tried listening to Bishop Oyedepo a few times but I found his preaching very boring and tiring.
Pst. Chris teachings are just something else, I can stay a whole day listening to that man.
He is worded and his voice is magical too

Nyanabo2:
I’m just now obsessed that he is a hyena in a sheep clothing. I hate it when Christian’s claim this holier than thou attitude. Each Pastor called by called is giving a Mission and a Vision.

Bishop Oyedepo mandate given to him by God is to liberate the world from the devil's oppression through the preaching of the word of faith.

Frigga13:
Thank you .

This is what many Christian’s are yet to understand… and reason Christian’s call it “ God’s Calling”

He calls for them to deliver his vision according to his will.. all these are spread out in the Bible .. but most time ..reading that Bible is so hard .. so they just hear what the preacher man says .. and takes it .

Christianity is no joke .. but some humans has turned it to jokes

descarado:
You got no answer for me?

The way you guysspwelies boldly is shocking.
Paul enenche has nothing to do with oyedepo till he became a minister.oyedepo was a man he admired from afar and loved his style and method of teaching. Later went to him for blessing and to act as his father figure.

I can tell you all about enenche growing up,everything about his family and ministry as an insider.
So you guys should shush it with the lies and zip your mouth about nothing you have no idea of.

Oyedepo once adored a very popular American pastor and sought him out in his early years of ministry. He sowed seed into his ministry and tried modeling his own ministry like that guys own.
Think that pastor is dead now.
Can we say that the said pastor was oyedepo's mentor?

Harddiskng:
You believe the gospel of prosperity is anti-christ.

It is clear You are very delusional about your standing in Christ

Apart from the Spirit of error, operating in your mind, let’s see if you have any academic competence. Read the verse below out loud

Luke 4:18

The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free

Question:

If freedom is to prisoners
Recovery of sight is to the blind
What sort of “good news” is to the poor?

yomi531:
U no know wetin u dey talk. No preacher in naija knows the bible like Oyedepo. He speaks with Authority. The way he speaks, makes him sound arrogant to many. Na why una hate am. He speaks truth to Power. I Stand to be corrected , no church in Nigeria performs feet washing and other mysteries of the kingdom.

SmellingAnus:
in what way is Pastor Ibiyeomie worse cos there is none of his services that he doesn't preach about repentance and leading people to Christ... Except you just watch cut and join versions of him.... That is not to say he is perfect but at least he warned us of the consequences of electing the wrong person... As fot Bishop Abioye, He is very sound... I first stumbled on his message by mistake cos I asked a winners member to send mp3 of Oyedepo's message, she ended up sending me that of Abioye and I loved him from that moment as a sound teacher years ago... Sorry for typos

vincentont:
This is one of the reasons I don't engage with christians blindly. All men of God that was called has a mandate given to them by God. That is why some churches has their Mandate for everyone to read. I remember when pastor adeboye said RCCG branches will be in every 5km or so, I said to myself then I don't think it's possible but look at what is happening. If God said it, He alone will perfect it.

Alsenora:
Every preacher is called to shepherd specific flock of 'men'. Just as you feel drawn to one another fellow might not be spiritually tilted but to another whose message you may find less appealing...

Basicend:
Dear Writer,

Spiritual authority and depth is earned tru the exact paths that God has put before you.

Skills, knowledge and spiritual gifts are not enough.

Many people like Bishop Abioye coz he seems humble, I believe that is one of the reasons why God allowed him to back Bishop Oyedepo for many years.

Bishop Oyedepo is an aggressive lion, and needs someone close with some calm, worded and balanced appeal to carry the ministry weight.

If Bishop Abioye is not called to patriach a ministry pathway by himself, he would not have gotten to where he is today.

It is only the hand of God that gives a voice and makes a man great. And this has to do with obedience to his will or burden.

* * Arguably, even the greatest man of God in Nigeria today, Pastor E.A Adeboye did not own a church. Not a single parish of RCCG belongs to him or his family. . but becoz he connected himself to God"s needed move for that season, his name was established tru God's name.

Whereas, God permitted Bishop Oyedepo and some others to create paths and establish churches directly.

yomi531:
U no know wetin u dey talk. No preacher in naija knows the bible like Oyedepo. He speaks with Authority. The way he speaks, makes him sound arrogant to many. Na why una hate am. He speaks truth to Power. I Stand to be corrected , no church in Nigeria performs feet washing and other mysteries of the kingdom.

Michael547:
Why don't pastors teach the same 'sound undiluted word'? Why the contradictions in their teachings?

Arrowhead71:
So prosperity message is Antichrist according to you, therefore people like you have no reason complaining about the poverty level that APC has brought on Nigeria, so from today you and all your generation will live and die in poverty so that you will not have anything to do with Antichrist

jesusjnr2020:
It's a quite similar feeling I usually had whenever I heard Paul Enenche speaking despite hearing that Oyedepo was his mentor.

He appeared to have a different mindset from Oyedepo from the way he sounded and acted very differently apart from a few occasions.

I hardly heard him teach the antichrist prosperity gospel and its heresies about tithing as was the usual of David Oyedepo and that David Ibiyeomie )who has proven overtime to be a much worse version of David Oyedepo). Hence when I see them together I wonder how they possibly agree despite the glaring differences, however didn't allow that association to affect my opinion of Paul Enenche, because I am not one driven by personal sentiments but Truth.

However Paul Enenche left early to start his own ministry, which perhaps helped him not to be stifled as David Abioye, but to shone brightly and impact the worldore or less to the fullest.

So could David Abioye have also done same thing?

Going by what later happened to him (enforced retirement) despite his loyalty and unwavering service to Oyedepo ministry all those years, the answer is probably in the affirmative.

God bless.

Anonimoux:
What an amazing list but I am shocked that APOSTLE JOSHUA SELMAN Isn't on this list to be honest. Could there be a reason for that please tell me oh.
Coz honestly these are the same people I listen to also

Apostle Joshua Selman

Apostle Michael Orokpo

Apostle Effa Emmanuel Isaac

Apostle Femi Lazarus

Apostle Philip Cephas

Apostle Arome Osayi

Prophet Joel Ogebe

Dr. David Ogbueli (This Man I see him as my Daddy, he teaches as if he sit with God personally)

These are the people I can listen to their messages for hours, the dexterity and the oratorical prowess with which they communicate the hallowed oracles of God is just amazing. You would easily know that these are men that have done business with the immortals and the Luminaries of Zion...

God bless

Michael547:
Do you mean that he is the one that has the correct sound doctrine out of all other churches and pastors?

yomi531:
if u say So bro. In winners, u don't just come to church with a big bible. U also come along with ur writing materials (book and biro). Services in winners can be likened to a lecture class in the University. Bros winners dey break down scriptures. Winners will let u know its not a sin to be rich. Winners will make u know u shouldn't glorify poverty in any guise. After all said and done, there's always an Alter call at the end of every Service. Been a proud winner since 1996.

Mummyfour:
my brother I can't really explain it. But what I know is that if you are filled with the holy spirit,you will be discerning enough to know the real word of God.
And that is why a lot of people will not attend Jeremiah omotofufeyin's church, while others will attend and even purchase his miracle items.

I had gone to a church once, where the pastor asked me to bring 16 seeds for prayers. And when I asked what type of seeds ( expecting to hear beans or corn)😂, the man said 16k. I left that church and never went back there. It was my first time there. I was invited by a friend. Now some people would have paid the 16k and continued going there but not me.
And for some men of God, they just preach according to their own human understanding and not according to the leading and teaching of the holy spirit

jesusjnr2020:
Was David Abioye Spiritual Prowess Being Stifiled Under Oyedepo All These Years?

Despite hearing the name David Abioye for several decades, (which wasn't unusual being the second in command to David Oyedepo founder and GO of winners chapel), it was only recently after his forced retirement from the church, that I got to know what he looked like and also what he sounded like, and I must confess that in the few times I have heard him speaking, I have already been impressed with his level of spiritual depth and understanding.

It's profoundly strange that this was someone that was serving under David Oyedepo for so many years, yet I have never felt the same way about David Oyedepo despite hearing him preach countless times, including when I was still a member of CGM, and attended several annual conventions when he was invited as a guest speaker.

Even while I was yet a sinner and wasn't as spiritually discerning as I am now, but could still discern spiritually deep preaching and teachings from those which were shallow, I have never been impressed with Oyedepo's preaching or teaching, how much more after I have not only got saved but also born-again and begun to walk at the highest level of spiritual walk where it was all about God?

Yet I heard David Abioye speaking only a few occasions and was wondering if he was really the same person that was with Oyedepo all these years or if it was someone else.

It was indeed baffling and made me wonder if David Abioye's spiritual prowess and impact wasn't stifled all these years, and if it wouldn't have been much more beneficiary to God's Kingdom had he parted ways with the church much earlier, especially considering the way his loyalty and service to Oyedepo was being rewarded with retirement when he still had so much more to offer in the work of the kingdom.

He also appears to be thinking along these lines considering that he has already launched his own ministry shortly afterwards, so could it a case of waiting too long before doing the needful?

https://www.nairaland.com/8266565/bishop-abioye-begins-new-ministry


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y51et3odFCA

It's better late than never though, at least the world can finally get to hear and partake of the spiritual riches that David Abioye has got to offer without any more hinges.

1. You are still a sinner who needs God's mercy. No one is righteous.

2. You just wrote this to tell us you will soon join his man made church.

3. Someone will wake up from his new church after some years and also claim God's calling.

God bless.

jaksmillioniar:
why of all d pastor u put u Neva put any yoruba pastor

FerrariE:
You're a Loser not a winner