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stevups:
The way ministry is designed, Paul Eneche, Ibiyiome, are supposed to learn under the experience of Abioye but now Abioye will consult them, no matter what! I do not rule out his achievements, but one must know when to stop dancing. Can relate the story of Laban and Jacob? Jacob said " I have been serving you all this while, when should I prepare for my home?" To me, Abioye has a closed mind. The politics in the church is more than the politics in government. I studied church history, I can boldly tell you that Oyedepo also learnt under someone. Most of the people that desire absolute loyalty don't give it to others. Immediately I stepped into the Canaanland I could see there is a big problem on ground. In the next 10 years you will see, that many churches will spring out of winners.

Michael547:
At the bolded......so every christian that is poor does not pay tithe and live a sinful lifestyle? Yes or no?

jesusjnr2020:
Was David Abioye Spiritual Prowess Being Stifiled Under Oyedepo All These Years?

Despite hearing the name David Abioye for several decades, (which wasn't unusual being the second in command to David Oyedepo founder and GO of winners chapel), it was only recently after his forced retirement from the church, that I got to know what he looked like and also what he sounded like, and I must confess that in the few times I have heard him speaking, I have already been impressed with his level of spiritual depth and understanding.

It's profoundly strange that this was someone that was serving under David Oyedepo for so many years, yet I have never felt the same way about David Oyedepo despite hearing him preach countless times, including when I was still a member of CGM, and attended several annual conventions when he was invited as a guest speaker.

Even while I was yet a sinner and wasn't as spiritually discerning as I am now, but could still discern spiritually deep preaching and teachings from those which were shallow, I have never been impressed with Oyedepo's preaching or teaching, how much more after I have not only got saved but also born-again and begun to walk at the highest level of spiritual walk where it was all about God?

Yet I heard David Abioye speaking only a few occasions and was wondering if he was really the same person that was with Oyedepo all these years or if it was someone else.

It was indeed baffling and made me wonder if David Abioye's spiritual prowess and impact wasn't stifled all these years, and if it wouldn't have been much more beneficiary to God's Kingdom had he parted ways with the church much earlier, especially considering the way his loyalty and service to Oyedepo was being rewarded with retirement when he still had so much more to offer in the work of the kingdom.

He also appears to be thinking along these lines considering that he has already launched his own ministry shortly afterwards, so could it a case of waiting too long before doing the needful?

https://www.nairaland.com/8266565/bishop-abioye-begins-new-ministry


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y51et3odFCA

It's better late than never though, at least the world can finally get to hear and partake of the spiritual riches that David Abioye has got to offer without any more hinges.

God bless.

stagger:
Bishop Abioye has not started his own ministry please. That is fake news. Anything anyone says as a spinoff of this story, has no foundation. None totally.

That said, understand that men of God are only vessels that ultimately transmit God's Word to us. Not every man of God is called to be your pastor, even within the same church.

As for your talk of being stifled, you forget that Joshua only emerged when Moses was gone, and no one heard of Elisha until Elijah was taken. No ship can have two captains, and no company can have two CEOs. No country can have two presidents.

Hoelujohn:
Don't play ooo. If he wants to raise 10 billion today, he will do that easily.

FerrariE:
Oyedepos teachings Boring? You're a joker. What!!

Why not say u lack the intellectual capability to understand His preaching? If you don't have what to say, pls do not further expose your lack of intelligence

SouthSouth1914:
Never outshine your master

Psady:
That guy goofed big time by saying such nonsense, but i will acvice him to listen again and again to papa oyedepo preaching then come tell us if u felt same way

jesusjnr2020:
Here they go again. The spiritually blind hypocrites in the order of the antichrist Pharisees marauding as Christians in NL, that would only clearly see pride when it's not in their noses or those they support, but only in others especially those they hate.

Please carry your baggage of spiritual ignorance to the spiritually blind who can't discern the Truth just as yourself.

I didn't make this post for the swines who were blind to the things of spiritual quality and would rubbish them, but those who can see and appreciate them for their true value.

stagger:
Bishop Abioye has not started his own ministry please. That is fake news. Anything anyone says as a spinoff of this story, has no foundation. None totally.

That said, understand that men of God are only vessels that ultimately transmit God's Word to us. Not every man of God is called to be your pastor, even within the same church.

As for your talk of being stifled, you forget that Joshua only emerged when Moses was gone, and no one heard of Elisha until Elijah was taken. No ship can have two captains, and no company can have two CEOs. No country can have two presidents.

SAMBARRY:
he never outshined his master na

Michael547:
Why do preachers today teach contradictory biblical doctrines?

jesusjnr2020:
Was David Abioye Spiritual Prowess Being Stifiled Under Oyedepo All These Years?

Despite hearing the name David Abioye for several decades, (which wasn't unusual being the second in command to David Oyedepo founder and GO of winners chapel), it was only recently after his forced retirement from the church, that I got to know what he looked like and also what he sounded like, and I must confess that in the few times I have heard him speaking, I have already been impressed with his level of spiritual depth and understanding.

It's profoundly strange that this was someone that was serving under David Oyedepo for so many years, yet I have never felt the same way about David Oyedepo despite hearing him preach countless times, including when I was still a member of CGM, and attended several annual conventions when he was invited as a guest speaker.

Even while I was yet a sinner and wasn't as spiritually discerning as I am now, but could still discern spiritually deep preaching and teachings from those which were shallow, I have never been impressed with Oyedepo's preaching or teaching, how much more after I have not only got saved but also born-again and begun to walk at the highest level of spiritual walk where it was all about God?

Yet I heard David Abioye speaking only a few occasions and was wondering if he was really the same person that was with Oyedepo all these years or if it was someone else.

It was indeed baffling and made me wonder if David Abioye's spiritual prowess and impact wasn't stifled all these years, and if it wouldn't have been much more beneficiary to God's Kingdom had he parted ways with the church much earlier, especially considering the way his loyalty and service to Oyedepo was being rewarded with retirement when he still had so much more to offer in the work of the kingdom.

He also appears to be thinking along these lines considering that he has already launched his own ministry shortly afterwards, so could it a case of waiting too long before doing the needful?

https://www.nairaland.com/8266565/bishop-abioye-begins-new-ministry


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y51et3odFCA

It's better late than never though, at least the world can finally get to hear and partake of the spiritual riches that David Abioye has got to offer without any more hinges.

God bless.

Alsenora:
Everyone is enjoined to seek the truth to be free; including the preachers.

Harddiskng:
Read and comprehend - the bolded clearly stated that not every Christian is an actual or genuine Christian, that was the point.

and the final part of my write clearly states reasons for poverty of genuine Christians

But it seems you just want pick out an argument where there is none.

Your question is obviously a stupid question cuz i even stated the story of a genuine “man of God” (from the Old Testament) that was poor.

Michael547:
I just finished watching the video on the link you sent to me. Ibiyeomie never told his members who to vote for. He clearly stated that he himself will vote for anyone that God showed him. So how do we know that people did not eventually vote for the aspirants that God showed them?

Basicend:
Dear Writer,

Spiritual authority and depth is earned tru the exact paths that God has put before you.

Skills, knowledge and spiritual gifts are not enough.

Many people like Bishop Abioye coz he seems humble, I believe that is one of the reasons why God allowed him to back Bishop Oyedepo for many years.

Bishop Oyedepo is an aggressive lion, and needs someone close with some calm, worded and balanced appeal to carry the ministry weight.

If Bishop Abioye is not called to patriach a ministry pathway by himself, he would not have gotten to where he is today.

It is only the hand of God that gives a voice and makes a man great. And this has to do with obedience to his will or burden.

* * Arguably, even the greatest man of God in Nigeria today, Pastor E.A Adeboye did not own a church. Not a single parish of RCCG belongs to him or his family. . but becoz he connected himself to God"s needed move for that season, his name was established tru God's name.

Whereas, God permitted Bishop Oyedepo and some others to create paths and establish churches directly.

God bless you.

Michael547:
So pastors contradicting themselves clearly shows that they are still looking for the truth and that they've not found it yet?

AngelicBeing:
You are talking about Late Kenneth Hagin , a father and mentor to Oyedepo

Kingosytex:
Many are of the opinion that Bishop Abioye is good, they may be right. Though, I've never listened to him.
I've tried listening to Bishop Oyedepo a few times but I found his preaching very boring and tiring.
Pst. Chris teachings are just something else, I can stay a whole day listening to that man.
He is worded and his voice is magical too

yomi531:
I might not be exactly right about Eneche but, Ibiyeomi was Papas former Accountant. I'm very sure about that.

Arrowhead71:
Arrowhead71 to his useless homosexual father and his spermbank wh0re mother:

what are you waiting for , start your church already, or did anybody come to your house asking you to pay tithe or forcefully enter your Bank account and withdraw an amount as tithe , that made you open your empty brain calling someone a scammer

Daniel058:
These are men of God I can comfortably listen to their messages

David OGBUELI

Arome OSAYI

CHRIS OYAHKILOME

MICHAEL OROKPO

JOHN ANOSIKE

FEMI LAZARUS

JOEL OGEBE
LAWRENCE OYOR

ISAAC EFFA
APOSTLE VICTOR



The one I can really follow their teachings re just 3 ,DAVID OGBUELI, AROME OSAYI AND MICHAEL OROKPO

I can't really follow motivational speakers,they will end up making me feel that God does not exist

descarado:
Yes. U are right.

Alsenora:
Sure.They are born of flesh like us.

SmellingAnus:
He told you who not to vote for there and who to vote for.... If you didn't get the message from the two videos/links o posted, many others got the message ... Have a great Sunday

Michael547:
Wow.....so the truth has not been found yet?

jesusjnr2020:
Was David Abioye Spiritual Prowess Being Stifiled Under Oyedepo All These Years?

Despite hearing the name David Abioye for several decades, (which wasn't unusual being the second in command to David Oyedepo founder and GO of winners chapel), it was only recently after his forced retirement from the church, that I got to know what he looked like and also what he sounded like, and I must confess that in the few times I have heard him speaking, I have already been impressed with his level of spiritual depth and understanding.

It's profoundly strange that this was someone that was serving under David Oyedepo for so many years, yet I have never felt the same way about David Oyedepo despite hearing him preach countless times, including when I was still a member of CGM, and attended several annual conventions when he was invited as a guest speaker.

Even while I was yet a sinner and wasn't as spiritually discerning as I am now, but could still discern spiritually deep preaching and teachings from those which were shallow, I have never been impressed with Oyedepo's preaching or teaching, how much more after I have not only got saved but also born-again and begun to walk at the highest level of spiritual walk where it was all about God?

Yet I heard David Abioye speaking only a few occasions and was wondering if he was really the same person that was with Oyedepo all these years or if it was someone else.

It was indeed baffling and made me wonder if David Abioye's spiritual prowess and impact wasn't stifled all these years, and if it wouldn't have been much more beneficiary to God's Kingdom had he parted ways with the church much earlier, especially considering the way his loyalty and service to Oyedepo was being rewarded with retirement when he still had so much more to offer in the work of the kingdom.

He also appears to be thinking along these lines considering that he has already launched his own ministry shortly afterwards, so could it a case of waiting too long before doing the needful?

https://www.nairaland.com/8266565/bishop-abioye-begins-new-ministry


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y51et3odFCA

It's better late than never though, at least the world can finally get to hear and partake of the spiritual riches that David Abioye has got to offer without any more hinges.

God bless.