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Was David Abioye Spiritual Prowess Being Stifled Under Oyedepo All These Years? - Christianity Etc (9) - Nairaland

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Re: Was David Abioye Spiritual Prowess Being Stifled Under Oyedepo All These Years? by jesusjnr2020(op): 4:43pm On Nov 18, 2024
wjxavier:
You are a rabble rouser.
You a blind follower.
Re: Was David Abioye Spiritual Prowess Being Stifled Under Oyedepo All These Years? by jesusjnr2020(op): 4:47pm On Nov 18, 2024
Desyno:
Dr Paul Enenche hardly preached prosperity gospel? May be he just started but currently he is one of the pastor that preach tithe most.
Not against tithe' preaching but tithing heresies and overemphasis as Jesus was.
Re: Was David Abioye Spiritual Prowess Being Stifled Under Oyedepo All These Years? by jesusjnr2020(op): 4:49pm On Nov 18, 2024
olabrad:
What do you mean by Enforced Retirement, please?
He was forced to retire against his own will.
Re: Was David Abioye Spiritual Prowess Being Stifled Under Oyedepo All These Years? by jesusjnr2020(op): 5:14pm On Nov 18, 2024
spectackpeters:
Bro, with what i just read (that came from your thought). I can confidently say the problem is neither david oyedepo, not david abioye but the only and major problem is YOU. say after me"i will think well and think God"
Yes... i am the problem that rewarded someone, who served and invested most of his life into my ministry, with compulsory retirement, even when he still had a whole lot to offer and wasn't ready to retire yet. Continue deceiving yourself since you refused to accept the glaring truth.
Re: Was David Abioye Spiritual Prowess Being Stifled Under Oyedepo All These Years? by jesusjnr2020(op): 5:22pm On Nov 18, 2024
Arrowhead71:
So prosperity message is Antichrist according to you, therefore people like you have no reason complaining about the poverty level that APC has brought on Nigeria, so from today you and all your generation will live and die in poverty so that you will not have anything to do with Antichrist
An antichrist prayer from an antichrist believer of the antichrist doctrine. No surprises there.

The sheer ignorance of thinking the prosperity gospel has anything to do with true prosperity. In truth it should be called the poverty Gospel because it only prospers a few but impoverishes many. See proof below:

Re: Was David Abioye Spiritual Prowess Being Stifled Under Oyedepo All These Years? by jesusjnr2020(op): 5:48pm On Nov 18, 2024
SmellingAnus:
in what way is Pastor Ibiyeomie worse cos there is none of his services that he doesn't preach about repentance and leading people to Christ... Except you just watch cut and join versions of him.... That is not to say he is perfect but at least he warned us of the consequences of electing the wrong person... As fot Bishop Abioye, He is very sound... I first stumbled on his message by mistake cos I asked a winners member to send mp3 of Oyedepo's message, she ended up sending me that of Abioye and I loved him from that moment as a sound teacher years ago... Sorry for typos
Lol! You fell for his gimmick of doing alter call after preaching the gospel of mammon? You should know better than that because he is only inviting people to (serve) mammon, the basis of most of his teachings, not Christ. That's why Christianity is filled with people who claim to be followers of Christ but have the mentality of the world instead of Christ.

What you should also know is that I know about him more than most. He cheated the man who started the church with him. The man came to me over 20 years ago and was lamenting that if there's anything pastors have issue with, it's money. He said when the time came for him to leave, Ibiyeomie reneged on the agreement they had before they started the church.

That's the same David Ibiyeomie that's preaching all sorts of nonsense in the name of prosperity, including the heresies on tithing, and it seems as though he's doing well, but we're neither deceived nor surprised. We know that's such antichrist doctrine would result in the Word being choked as Jesus taught us.

That's why we're against will keep preaching against the prosperity gospel.
Re: Was David Abioye Spiritual Prowess Being Stifled Under Oyedepo All These Years? by SmellingAnus(m): 6:42pm On Nov 18, 2024
jesusjnr2020:
Lol! You fell for his gimmick of doing alter call after preaching the gospel of mammon? You should know better than that because he is only inviting people to (serve) mammon, the basis of most of his teachings, not Christ. That's why Christianity is filled with people who claim to be followers of Christ but have the mentality of the world instead of Christ.

What you should also know is that I know about him more than most. He cheated the man who started the church with him. The man came to me over 20 years ago and was lamenting that if there's anything pastors have issue with, it's money. He said when the time came for him to leave, Ibiyeomie reneged on the agreement they had before they started the church.

That's the same David Ibiyeomie that's preaching all sorts of nonsense in the name of prosperity, including the heresies on tithing, and it seems as though he's doing well, but we're neither deceived nor surprised. We know that's such antichrist doctrine would result in the Word being choked as Jesus taught us.

That's why we're against will keep preaching against the prosperity gospel.
if you say you are against prosperity gospel you wrong, but if you tell you are against the wrong teachings which is not necessarily prosperity gospel I will agree with you .. the Church and it's members need to be prosperous too even as our soul prospers... No doubt many preachers have twisted the gospel for their personal interest... I am not against prosperity Gospel, even Jesus said we shall have our rewards in 100 folds in this time which also includes houses... My problem is the wrong application of the prosperity gospel with regards to many preachers... If I may humbly ask, which church do you attend ? Who is your mentor? Who are the real men of God according to your own understanding of the Bible?
Re: Was David Abioye Spiritual Prowess Being Stifled Under Oyedepo All These Years? by Desyno: 6:43pm On Nov 18, 2024
jesusjnr2020:
Not against tithe' preaching but tithing heresies and overemphasis as Jesus was.
This is also my own stand as a Christian.
Re: Was David Abioye Spiritual Prowess Being Stifled Under Oyedepo All These Years? by bdon123(m): 8:03pm On Nov 18, 2024
Michael547:
Is Abioye a genuine preacher? Yes or no?
No becos he preaches abt tithe
Re: Was David Abioye Spiritual Prowess Being Stifled Under Oyedepo All These Years? by jesusjnr2020(op): 4:21am On Nov 20, 2024
SmellingAnus:
if you say you are against prosperity gospel you wrong, but if you tell you are against the wrong teachings which is not necessarily prosperity gospel I will agree with you .. the Church and it's members need to be prosperous too even as our soul prospers... No doubt many preachers have twisted the gospel for their personal interest... I am not against prosperity Gospel, even Jesus said we shall have our rewards in 100 folds in this time which also includes houses... My problem is the wrong application of the prosperity gospel with regards to many preachers... If I may humbly ask, which church do you attend ? Who is your mentor? Who are the real men of God according to your own understanding of the Bible?
This is what happens when people begin to use a materialistic and carnal mindset to interpret the teachings of the Spirit as was the custom of most prosperity preachers.

How ridiculous to think Jesus was speaking to today's prosperity preachers and not Peter and His other apostles, otherwise tell me how they were rewarded with 100 folds of houses in this time if that was what Jesus meant.

The first time you came to me with this same line of thought, I thought you were sincere but only ignorant of the bonafide scam the prosperity Gospel was, however for you to be totally blind to the glaring heresies and false teachings of David Ibiyeomie despite being an ardent listener of his teachings even to the extent of suggesting i used to edit his messages, proves how deeply the roots of the antichrist doctrine has been entrenched into your heart, and rendered it hardened against the Truth.

Hence it's pointless trying convince you the otherwise because it's obvious we can never agree on this subject since our mindsets were mutually opposed.

So i rest case at this point.
Re: Was David Abioye Spiritual Prowess Being Stifled Under Oyedepo All These Years? by SmellingAnus(m): 7:32am On Nov 20, 2024
jesusjnr2020:
This is what happens when people begin to use a materialistic and carnal mindset to interpret the teachings of the Spirit as was the custom of most prosperity preachers.

How ridiculous to think Jesus was speaking to today's prosperity preachers and not Peter and His other apostles, otherwise tell me how they were rewarded with 100 folds of houses in this time if that was what Jesus meant.

The first time you came to me with this same line of thought, I thought you were sincere but only ignorant of the bonafide scam the prosperity Gospel was, however for you to be totally blind to the glaring heresies and false teachings of David Ibiyeomie despite being an ardent listener of his teachings even to the extent of suggesting i used to edit his messages, proves how deeply the roots of the antichrist doctrine has been entrenched into your heart, and rendered it hardened against the Truth.

Hence it's pointless trying convince you the otherwise because it's obvious we can never agree on this subject since our mindsets were mutually opposed.

So i rest case at this point.
You are right we can't agree on this subject... Truth is , we must not even agree on all subjects ... Even Paul and Peter couldn't agree on all subjects but I believe they will all make heaven .... That you disagree with Pastor Ibiyeomie doesn't make him a false Prophet or fake Man of God, that is the point I want you to understand... I don't even agree with everything Pastor Ibiyeomie says for your information.. Its the work of the devil to make you think because you don't agree with a Pastor so he automatically becomes fake or not genuine forgetting that every pastor is first a human so he is prone to errors sometimes... I ask again... Who are the genuine men of God you know of according to your own understanding, maybe some viewers might want to follow them or are there no genuine men of God? Sorry for the typos
Re: Was David Abioye Spiritual Prowess Being Stifled Under Oyedepo All These Years? by jesusjnr2020(op): 8:17am On Nov 20, 2024
SmellingAnus:
You are right we can't agree on this subject... Truth is , we must not even agree on all subjects ... Even Paul and Peter couldn't agree on all subjects but I believe they will all make heaven .... That you disagree with Pastor Ibiyeomie doesn't make him a false Prophet or fake Man of God, that is the point I want you to understand... I don't even agree with everything Pastor Ibiyeomie says for your information.. Its the work of the devil to make you think because you don't agree with a Pastor so he automatically becomes fake or not genuine forgetting that every pastor is first a human so he is prone to errors sometimes... I ask again... Who are the genuine men of God you know of according to your own understanding, maybe some viewers might want to follow them or are there no genuine men of God? Sorry for the typos
jesusjnr2020:
I rest case at this point.
Re: Was David Abioye Spiritual Prowess Being Stifled Under Oyedepo All These Years? by olabrad: 8:46am On Nov 28, 2024
jesusjnr2020:
He was forced to retire against his own will.
Wow!
I thought they were in good terms
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