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| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by timilehin007(m): 10:04am On Nov 18, 2024 |
drnoel:no I think Trump will end the war mutually, Russia would likely hold on top the territories they seized |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by ElevationD: 10:09am On Nov 18, 2024 |
blacksam01:I will give you only a short response: 1. Russia will view it as a direct attack on its soil lay NATO. 2. Russia will arm adversaries of NATO countries and non state actors to strike on the soil of NATO countries. 3. Third World War potentially. But first, Russia will ensure that its national defence capabilities are in place against such more difficult weapons. We all wait to see as events unfold. I advise you to do so to for better understanding. |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by maasoap(m): 10:26am On Nov 18, 2024 |
Shiitt is getting real. Doomsday is fast approaching like play like play. North Korea are now sending troops to help Russia. Russia too has secretly supplied her most advanced missiles defence, S400 to Iran and gave Iran go ahead to produce Su57 domestically |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by maasoap(m): 10:27am On Nov 18, 2024 |
timilehin007:Actually, this is exactly what Trump promised too |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by maasoap(m): 10:35am On Nov 18, 2024 |
yerilistik:It actually means more doom for Ukraine because Russia will throw caution into the wind and use Israel tactics of killing and destroying indiscriminately. Don't tell me that you expect Ukraine to level up to Russia even with this go ahead. Russia will simply step up and stop caring about anyone's opinion |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by maasoap(m): 10:37am On Nov 18, 2024 |
blacksam01:It will be worse for Ukraine, you will start hearing and reading what you have been reading and watching in Gaza |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by drnoel: 11:01am On Nov 18, 2024 |
timilehin007:Watch and see Putin play Trump like a flute. Russia has no rights to territories/ lands gotten by invasion, this is not the 40s. If Putin is allowed to hold those lands nothing stops him from seeking to invade further in the future. That is how Hitler started the war. Trump has nothing to say on that topic though, I assure you. Putin would use him for toilet paper. |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by ScarletBrace(m): 12:02pm On Nov 18, 2024 |
legitnow1:Are you WriterNG or Helinue’s new assistant on radical stupidity? So unhinged and lousy. Suganmu. |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by blacksam01: 12:10pm On Nov 18, 2024 |
ElevationD:Russia cannot do worse... They already fund Iran and houthis... Again, Russia attacks Ukraine with Iranian and NK missiles.... So it's like same thing done to them... Russia cannot do anything aside use the weapon of fear to taunt NATO.. they can do nothing!!! |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by igbosarejews(m): 12:42pm On Nov 18, 2024 |
DeOTR:Allow himself to be used by defending his country that was invaded in 2022. Thank Goodness his not an African, that thinks nothing else than procreation. |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by smallsmall: 1:35pm On Nov 18, 2024*. Modified: 2:33am On Nov 19, 2024 |
drnoel:A Referendum, is a legitimate, UN-approved process to breakaway from one Country, and join another. All those former Ukrainian territories that are now with Russia, conducted a Referendum and voted massively 'YES', to join Russia. That is not the same thing as when Iraq annexed Kuwait, by use of military Force. And come o think of it, did America not annex a large part of Mexico (Texas, New Mexico, etc) till today? And can we imagine a situation where say Canada or Cuba, is allowing Russia or China to stage Nuclear Weapons on their soil, all pointed to America, what do we think American President will do? Have we forgotten about what led to the Cuban Crisis, back then? Every "Super Power Country" will protect its "area of influence", for the sake of its National Security No One has the right, to act against the WILL of the People, to belong to wherever they want. This is the problem "Biafra" is facing today... they want a Referendum to either Stay or Leave Nigeria but our Government i snot allowing such legitimate process, hence the War and things like UGM in the South East. Crimea, Donbas and other Areas that voted in a Referendum to join Russia, are gone for good. Just imagine what they would suffer, if by some accident, they were forced back into Ukraine, judging by what they have been suffering in the hands of the Ukrainian Neo-Nazis, since 2014, who call them "Rats" that needs to be snuffed out! But, let us just chillax and see what happens, between now, and end of March, 2025. Let us see how much difference, this "approval" will make to the war effort. BTW: Zelensky is only allowed to use Biden's "newly Approved" 300Km ATACMS to strike Kursk Region ONLY. ![]() That is so like 'how you treat your pawn". |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by EnkayDezign: 1:37pm On Nov 18, 2024 |
Naijjablog:Oga what's all this nonsense you're speaking. Biden is smarter and more experienced politically, than you or your demagogue Drumpf could ever dream of. So you want them to Kow-tow to Russia just because they are a nuclear power? Russia is the aggressor here, and was actually part of the countries (including USA and UK) that convinced Ukraine to give up its Nukes (they handed them over to Russia upon their independence) with the promise that the three superpowers would protect Ukraine if they ever needed it. Now as is clear to see, Russia is the one attacking Ukraine in violation of that agreement and the promise whereas, the UK and US under Biden have honoured the agreement by fulfilling their promise to protect Ukraine. If your saint Pootin is so bad ass and if Russia is so powerful why do they need North Korean assistance after 3 years of war? They are clearly failing at their objective to conquer Ukraine and Europe at large. Make u get sense small and advice Pootin to give up, he will never win against Ukraine, talk less of NATO countries |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by Princedapace(m): 2:52pm On Nov 18, 2024 |
Mandate1:If u dont know, Nigeria is British interest. US has many interests in many countries that are indepedent. A very good example is Taiwon, South Korea, etc. This is why US builds military bases all over the world The major reason is to have nice location to strike their enemy/competitor. |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by Speeding1: 5:13pm On Nov 18, 2024 |
[quote author=Princedapace post=132928398]If u dont know, Nigeria is British interest. US has many interests in many countries that are indepedent. A very good example is Taiwon, South Korea, etc. This is why US builds military bases all over the world The major reason is to have nice location to strike their enemy/competitor. [/quote Those countries you mentioned are allies with the US. The relationship was not forced on them. They willingly seek for partnership with the US. South Korea ran to the US for help to deter their aggressive North Korean neighbours, Taiwan also don't want to be part of China hence their partnership with the US for military assistance. When it comes to building strategic alliances, just give to the US. Look at Saudi Arabia and other Middle eastern countries, they all have military pact with the US and many other strategic partnerships in economic development, science and technology, education etc. even Your almighty Russia and China are not left out. |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by Speeding1: 5:14pm On Nov 18, 2024 |
Princedapace:Those countries you mentioned are allies with the US. The relationship was not forced on them. They willingly seek for partnership with the US. South Korea ran to the US for help to deter their aggressive North Korean neighbours, Taiwan also don't want to be part of China hence their partnership with the US for military assistance. When it comes to building strategic alliances, just give to the US. Look at Saudi Arabia and other Middle eastern countries, they all have military pact with the US and many other strategic partnerships in economic development, science and technology, education etc. even Your almighty Russia and China are not left out |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by Princedapace(m): 5:37pm On Nov 18, 2024 |
Speeding1:Ukraine leader before the coup was a Russian allie, do u get it? The US via CIA as they always do, removed that leader which was an inteferance into Russian interests. America will never accept same. America is a complete bully. America would build military base and no one will say anything, once Russia or China wants to build military base outside their homelands, America will begin to bark and complain. What type of uselss and bullying country is that? Did u also read about how the American backed president who came on after the coup was targetting and killing citizens of Russian origin in Ukrain? There is a well respected American scholar who has a video on this whole issue, someone has posted that video here. Take your time and watch it. U will understand better. My happiness is that that interview was by someone who is a well respected American and part of American govt many times. Russia was bullied into a war and they will fight to the end. The US actually dont want any other global power. If they had succeeded with Russia, their next target is China using Taiwon. |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by drnoel: 5:54pm On Nov 18, 2024 |
smallsmall:The referendum that Russia oversaw, right and one that was plagued with arrest and imprisonment? Sorry but it was trustworthy enough for the west to consider an actual representation of what's on ground. That's why the west is not convinced that |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by yerilistik: 5:56pm On Nov 18, 2024 |
SaLongs1:It amazes me honestly why someone in his right senses will be supporting a bully who just woke up and started invading a sovereign nation with impunity. If it's about survival of the fittest do these morons think they ll be alive in this planet earth ? Personally I don't argue with such people; I just read thier posts and pass. |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by smallsmall: 7:07pm On Nov 18, 2024 |
drnoel:Can you please share EVIDENCE of these claims you're making, that: 1) The Referendum was plagued with Arrest and Imprisonment (I am not aware of such acts, during the Referendum, as it was Peaceful and express the wishes of the people of those Areas) 2) That it was just Russia, that oversaw the Referendum and there aren't International observers from other Nations. The West (NATO Countries and their Allies) were against Russia in this War and so, no one expects them to greenlight the Referemdum. They would always say they dont accept it. But[b] when the West that conducts the Referendum,, as they did when they split Czechoslovakia, into Bosnia-Herzegovina and Serbia, it was considered acceptable. [/b] We have to do better than think "the West is always right" and "No one else can be right, except the West says so". BTW: This discussion is not about "who you and i, support", (it is not the typical Nigerian Politics where you are either APShit or PDPit or HellPee), it is about what we see or know or feel is happening over there. |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by smallsmall: 8:25pm On Nov 18, 2024*. Modified: 9:56pm On Nov 18, 2024 |
Allow me to dwell on THREE issues: 1) I have read a few people who are prone to "insulting others", saying that Ukraine gave-up its Nuclear Weapon. This statement is the usual Ignorant statements that people make, because they dont research what they are talking about and just say what they heard on MSM. The fact here, is that[b] Ukraine NEVER HAD any Nuclear Weapon[/b], Period. Explanation: - For the records, USSR (as a single country, with its Capital and largest City, as Moscow), is the OWNER of all Nukes within its borders. - Ukraine was one of the Cities of USSR, just like Moscow, which was the largest City and Capital. - Moscow (now part of Russia), was the seat of Government of USSR and controlled access to all their Nukes. (A Nuke is not just the Missile alone, the most important things are the "Launch Codes", without which, the Nuke is just a piece of explosive, not different from any other conventional bomb.) - Moscow OWENED all the Nukes of USSR. - USSR has its Nukes STORED in different parts of the USSR, including in the City of Ukraine but the Cities themselves and by themselves. do not have control over the Nukes, except from the Capital and largest City, MOSCOW. - Ukraine never OWNED, nor have CONTROL over any of the USSR Nukes STORED in its City. They all belong to USSR and the Centre of that USSR-Government, was Moscow. - When the USSR dissolved, the constituents Cities were seeking Independence, not all at the same time, but at different times, close to each other though. - Ukraine broke-away and at that point, it was instructed to surrender all the Nukes stored on its territory, by Moscow (now Represented and Capital of Russia). - Even if the Nukes were left on Ukrainian soil, Ukraine could not operate them because it does not have access to the launch codes. Ukraine dutifully handed over the Nukes, to Russia. - Also, the "Black Sea, Nuclear Submarine fleet" was stationed in Ukraine, under USSR. It was also asked to hand them over to the Nation which succeeded USSR, that is Russia. - In return, Ukraine asked for "Protection and assurances" for its security, which Russia and some other Powers promised. I am saying all these, to let us know what transpired back then and to put an end to this false notion that Ukraine OWNED Nuclear Weapons at any point in time, in its History since 1991. It is like saying 'River State' OWNS all the Oil Wells "of Nigeria", despite being on its Land? That was one of the reasons Biafra (which had annexed the South-South, including Rivers, Delta, Edo and Bayelsa of today, as part of Biafra in 1968) could not be actualized, in the Civil War because there is no way Nigeria would have let-go of such "Resources", to a breakaway part of it. There is No way Russia would have allowed Ukraine to keep those "Nukes and nuclear Submarines", and hand-over the Launch Codes to Ukraine. Russia was the "succeeding Nation" to USSR, the owner of Moscow (its Capital) and the Nukes belongs to Moscow /Russia. That is the way the World works. 2) Now, Let us talk about those Assurances that Russia gave Ukraine, back then in 1991: - Those Assurances of 1991 given to Ukraine[/b, were PREMISED on [b]Ukraine not becoming a Hostile Nation to Russia.] - Today, we know that Ukraine is not only a "Proxy and Pawn" for NATO war on Russia, it is also actively killing "Ethnic Russians" on its territory, It is burning their Churches, forbidding their language, bombing their Homes and it even made a failed attempt to occupy Russian territory of Kursk. This means the "Condition for the Assurances" have been violated and Russia does not owe any apology, for not honoring the Assurances anymore. 3) Finally, the issue of North Korean Soldiers: - Russia and North Korea (PNK?) are Allies, for a long time, especially when America and its Allies tried to cripple that country economically, as they did to Countries like Cuba, Venezuela and just about any Country that tried to uphold its Sovereignty. - Recently, they signed a "Strategic Accord", (much like the one that America signed with Taiwan), to defend each other, in times of War. - Russia has invited PNK Soldiers into Russia. The issue here is: To what Purpose? Answer: - Russia has been at War with NATO, through their Proxy Ukraine, for almost three Years now and have gained valuable experience, over those years. - Like Germany, UK and France, Countries that have not gone to War in a long time, become "War-Rusty". - This is why Countries come together, to conduct "Military Maneuvers" with each other, as a form of "Practice". - Russia just invited the Soldiers of PNK, to come and understudy a real life War situation and conduct military maneuvers, as against using them in the frontline of battle. - Except anyone has IRREFUTABLE Proof, non of which have surfaced, apart from conjectures and make-up stories by Western MSM, that PNK Troops are fighting in the frontline, l make bold to say that there are no PNK Soldiers fighting on behalf of Russia. - Zelensky is using this issue, ( he claimed the Number is 100,000, NATO claimed they are 10,000, EU claimed they are 20,000 and everyone is just bandying ridiculous figures around!) to pressure NATO to come and fight on his behalf. Zelensky wants to use this PNK Soldiers in Russia, to draw-in "War enthusiasts" like France and Poland, to come and donate their own Soldiers (Meat), to the Russian "meat-grinder". - Also, South Korea, having been waiting in the Wings to see how it can join the NATO fray (it is not a NATO member!) and fight in Ukraine so, it is using this "made-up story" of PNK Soldiers in Russia, to make its move but South Korean Soldiers also want to gain real-life "field/war experience", in preparation for a future War with PNK. - But ask any source to show you a Video of these North Korean Soldiers fighting at the War front, they cant show you anyone! - How is it that Russia, that has not done a "General Mobilization", not to talk of a "Conscription" as Ukraine has done, will need to Import PNK soldiers to come and fight on its behalf? Does that add-up? - Instead of "frontally" asking PNK Soldiers to come and fight on its behalf, Russia could just have asked for "Mercenaries" from all over the World, the way Ukraine has done and there wont be any problem. So, until those saying Russia has enlisted PNK Soldiers can show PROOF of those Soldiers in action at the front, w should take such stories with a pinch of salt, especiall if it is coming from NATO/Western Countries. I want to be convinced with PROOF, since Russia has denied enlisting these Soldiers in Battle but says they are there to observes, do 'military drills' with Russian Soldiers and study and gain "real-life" battle scenarios. |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by drnoel: 8:44pm On Nov 18, 2024 |
smallsmall:The beauty of it all is that I don't need to prove anything. Just like you can't prove anything as regards what you ate saying. But like you said, this is the west against Russia. Trump won't tip the scale here. The scale has already tipped with Kamala not winning the election. He has no idea what he is doing. Don't forget Putin was a formal spy and head of FSB in Russia and also of the Stasi in east Germany. Trump on the other hand would be railroaded by Putin. |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by shiffynaani(m): 9:38pm On Nov 18, 2024 |
Hecrax:some Russian dogs i know are still polite to some extent but it seems they didn't castrate you well ![]() |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by gaskiyamagana: 9:56pm On Nov 18, 2024 |
Arrowhead71:Dream that is materializing in Ukraine and Iran/Lebanon humbling Nasatanyahoo? |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by smallsmall: 10:03pm On Nov 18, 2024 |
drnoel:Whatever l say, l can provide sources for them. I am talking about reputable sources, Western, Russian, Ukrainian Sources. Direct quotes from Leaders of concerned Countries. I am not the typical Nairalander that just spews balderdash or write, based on emotions. This is like my second Work (International Relations and Politics). BTW: Putin was a KGB Officer, not FSB. He never worked for "East Germany", which was never a part of the USSR, despite being a Communist Country. I think Trump's position on Ukraine, will determine how far the other NATO Countries can go. They dont have the Money nor the Weapons, to carry this on for long, if Trump pulls the plug, which l believe he will do, one way or another That is why they re all in a frenzy, right now.. Appreciate your time and have a nice day ahead. |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by smallsmall: 10:48pm On Nov 18, 2024 |
I hope Trump continues to allow Ukraine the ability to strike at greater distances in Russia.How to be "a Pawn", in a Chess Game. |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by Hecrax: 6:25am On Nov 19, 2024 |
shiffynaani:You meant your emasculated male lineage most especially your suicidal masochistic brain 🧠 dead father |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by Hecrax: 6:25am On Nov 19, 2024 |
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| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by drnoel: 6:50am On Nov 19, 2024 |
smallsmall:Check your sources then. I remember reading somewhere that he was posted twice to east Germany. And Putin was definitely once in fsp, I just confirmed it from my sources. I don't want to say you info is flawed cos we all make mistakes so would rather ask you to check your sources again. As regards your other statement, yes you are right. Trump would "pull the plug" like you stated. The question is not if he would do that but if the reasons he does it are the right ones. We know know is easily manipulated and we all know his narcissistic behaviour and his megalomania and God-complex makes him a very dangerous unstable person. Worse still the other guys know this too and would use it against him. Now he has started appointments of key officials and that is the fear that he would appoint someone incompetent to a very sensitive position. Example the healthcare is trembling from his last appointment. Not trembling from approval but from disapproval cos people know what orientation many of these far right guys stand for. So we know trump would attempt to cripple NATO and that would be playing directly into the playbook of Russia. This would be a dangerous move. |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by Speeding1: 6:52am On Nov 19, 2024 |
Princedapace:Is not completely true, because China, Russia and co always give the US to come in between. Was it the US that made Russia to annex Crimea a part of Ukraine in 2014? Same with China who wants to force Taiwan to be part of them |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by Princedapace(m): 11:30am On Nov 19, 2024 |
Speeding1:Baba, go and watch that video that a full grown and elderly American politician did. U dont know better than him. The video has gone viral. He has been a member of the US govt, knows the US in and out. It is funny how people like u think that the US is innocent. Baba, a lot of shits has been going on with the US, Russia and China. The US likes to entangle her self in the affairs of other other super power which is pure madness. They wont take it. The case of China is also there. It is their affairs. Why come in? Why cant the US arm Biafra to fight Nigeria? Do u know why? Nigeria is British Interest and the US will not arm a group to fight against her allie's ineterst which is Britain. See eh, when it comes to international politics, I think u need to read more and this time, read from both global political play and make ur judgement. As for the Russian and Ukraine crises, the aim of the American elites was to cripple russia, make them not have the power to fight in a long term, cripple their economy, cause civic unrest via protest with the main aim to break the country into smaller and weaker nations. I wish i have the link to that clip by a top American scholar and politician. I would have shared it with you both someone already shared it on this thread. |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by smallsmall: 5:12pm On Nov 19, 2024 |
Princedapace:The last Paragraph of your Post is what most Nigerians dont know or refuse to acknowledge. Zelensky only made Ukraine and his Citizens, a Testing Ground for Weapons of different "Western" Countries and then Russia too. No Country should ever pray for such "Selfishly Evil" Leader. |
| Re: Biden Approves Ukraine’s Use Of Long-Range US Weapons In Russia by Princedapace(m): 5:24pm On Nov 19, 2024 |
smallsmall:I am not surprised at N&gerians. Most don't have sense normally. That is why they keep electing useless leaders. Lol. America actually aim is to cripple Russia and China to wage off any possible global challenge. America currently has military bases scattered all over the world. The aim is to ensure that they force any threat into submission. I don't know why Nigerians don't see how evil the US ruling class is. America will sit in their national assembly and be discussing the rising growth of china. Like what is your business if china is growing? Dont U want them to grow? Why do U have military bases all over the world but get mad when China or Russia gets to have a military base? How? Is that not madness ? U and your allies can have nuclear weapon but U are mad when another country that is not Ur Allie builds a nuclear weapon, and U want to use sanction to force them into submission? Why so wicked and greedy ? |
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