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VillageOracle00:
Let us be truthful, US are the people promoting Ukraine to do this, the just use to be so cruel, they will be at the back forcing people to go in

HydraFeeds:
To every sensible people on this forum ,what do you think will happen if Russia supply weapons to countries like Cuba or Mexico to strike US directly?

Kinzo0917:
When Putin troops attacked Americans military in Syria, what happened?

Russians military were destroyed. Google the episode of the attack and stop talking trash here or u think all of us are dumb here?

ceejay80s:
.but China and north korea supply u people too na
why USA own dey pain una

HydraFeeds:
To every sensible people on this forum ,what do you think will happen if Russia supply weapons to countries like Cuba or Mexico to strike US directly?

Mikelarteta:
Russia think say na only then get Nuclear weapon? You are the oppressor here and I don’t know why some people still supporting this idiot. You are not comfortable with them joining NATO and they have agreed, still you went ahead with your oppression against them. Any little thing you go Dey threaten with Nukes as if na only you get am.

smallsmall:
About Ukraine POSSESSING and GIVING-UP Nuclear Weapons and The ASSURANCES it was given:

1) I have read a few HERE, saying that Ukraine gave-up its Nuclear Weapon.
This statement is the usual Ignorant statements that people make, because they dont research what they are talking about and just say what they heard on MSM.
The fact here, is that[b] Ukraine NEVER HAD any Nuclear Weapon[/b], Period.
Explanation:
- For the records, USSR (as a single country, with its Capital and largest City, as Moscow), is the OWNER of all Nukes within its borders.
- Ukraine was one of the Cities of USSR, just like Moscow, which was the largest City and Capital.

- Moscow (now part of Russia), was the seat of Government of USSR and controlled access to all their Nukes. (A Nuke is not just the Missile alone, the most important things are the "Launch Codes", without which, the Nuke is just a piece of explosive, not different from any other conventional bomb.)
- Moscow OWENED all the Nukes of USSR.

- USSR has its Nukes STORED in different parts of the USSR, including in the City of Ukraine but the Cities themselves and by themselves. do not have control over the Nukes, except from the Capital and largest City, MOSCOW.

- Ukraine never OWNED, nor have CONTROL over any of the USSR Nukes STORED in its City.
They all belong to USSR and the Centre of that USSR-Government, was Moscow.

- When the USSR dissolved, the constituents Cities were seeking Independence, not all at the same time, but at different times, close to each other though.
- Ukraine broke-away and at that point, it was instructed to surrender all the Nukes stored on its territory, by Moscow (now Represented and Capital of Russia).

- Even if the Nukes were left on Ukrainian soil, Ukraine could not operate them because it does not have access to the launch codes.
Ukraine dutifully handed over the Nukes, to Russia.

- Also, the "Black Sea, Nuclear Submarine fleet" was stationed in Ukraine, under USSR.
It was also asked to hand them over to the Nation which succeeded USSR, that is Russia.

- In return, Ukraine asked for "Protection and assurances" for its security, which Russia and some other Powers promised.

I am saying all these, to let us know what transpired back then and to put an end to this false notion that Ukraine OWNED Nuclear Weapons at any point in time, in its History since 1991.

It is like saying 'River State' OWNS all the Oil Wells "of Nigeria", despite being on its Land?
That was one of the reasons Biafra (which had annexed the South-South, including Rivers, Delta, Edo and Bayelsa of today, as part of Biafra in 1968) could not be actualized, in the Civil War because there is no way Nigeria would have let-go of such "Resources", to a breakaway part of it.
There is No way Russia would have allowed Ukraine to keep those "Nukes and nuclear Submarines", and hand-over the Launch Codes to Ukraine.

Russia was the "succeeding Nation" to USSR, the owner of Moscow (its Capital) and the Nukes belongs to Moscow /Russia.
That is the way the World works.

2) Now, Let us talk about those ASSURANCES that Russia (and the US), gave Ukraine, back then in 1991:

- Those Assurances of 1991 given to Ukraine[/b, were PREMISED on [b]Ukraine not becoming a Hostile Nation to Russia.]

- Today, we know that Ukraine is not only a "Proxy and Pawn" for NATO war on Russia, it is also actively killing "Ethnic Russians" on its territory, It is burning their Churches, forbidding their language, bombing their Homes and it even made a failed attempt to occupy Russian territory of Kursk.
This means the "Condition for the Assurances" have been violated and Russia does not owe any apology, for not honoring the Assurances anymore.

Honestey:
Russia should just fire US directly. US should stop fighting indirectly using Ukraine and that coward Israel

excel101:
Use your number 6, see how empty your comment is.

jUeLiZ:
Make Putin do him worse now....

Everytime Nuclear threat like say na only Russia get nuclear weapons.... make Putin press the button if him get mind...

HydraFeeds:
To every sensible people on this forum ,what do you think will happen if Russia supply weapons to countries like Cuba or Mexico to strike US directly?

Toktee:
And you know well that it won't happen.
No sane element will ever think of striking US.

smallsmall:
Aside from that, there are Three Issues here, that most people praising Ukraine now, are not aware of:

1) Ukraine has a very limited amount of these long Range Missiles (ATACMS) and they will soon run out of it.
Russia on the other hand, has a Pile of Hypersonic Missiles of various types that can reach and burn anywhere in Ukraine.

2) The "Approval" given to Ukraine by America, is a LIMITED ONE, and it is to use the ATACMS against Russia border regions ONLY and in Kursk.
Why is that?
- The Maximum Range of these Missiles, are just about 300Km, it wont even go much into Russian heartland.

- America has a shortage of the ATACMS Missiles.
Infact, General Loyd Austin (American equivalent of our COAS), told Zelensky last week that "The US has an obligation, first and foremost, to its Clients who have paid for these Missiles in advance and would supply them to those Client first, before considering Ukraine!".

- He also said that America cannot deplete its own stock of Missiles, just to satisfy Ukraine because that would put American Security in jeopardy.
- So, America will not supply additional ATACMS to Ukraine, Trump is taking Office soon and wont approve additional Supply, so what happens, when the few ATACMS Ukraine was given, runs out?
Meanwhile, Russia is rolling out Supersonic Missiles, at an alarming rate, not to mention its Drone production, which even EU Generals have said is "shocking".

3) Russia has been expecting that "Genocide Joe" will give this "ATACMS approval" very soon, for some time now and has moved all its Weapons Storage, Attack Planes and Helicopters, all strategic Assets..... out of the range of the ATACMS Missile, which is just about 300Km.

- Gen. Loyd Austin told Zelensky this, arguing that using ATACMS now, will not give Ukraine any "strategic advantage" in the War.
If anyone is in-doubt about this, let them provide any Video from any source, that shows the damage the Six ATACMS that Ukraine fired, damaging any Significant Russian Military Asset.

At best, Zelensky will kill a few Russians and damage a few buildings, in the border Region and maybe hold unto Kursk, the Russian border City, for a little longer, since they are being encircled already. Then he would fold.
He doesn't even have the ManPower (Soldiers) to pursue this War anymore.
His Soldiers are poorly trained Conscripts, forcefully snatched on the Streets and they are deserting or surrendering in droves.

What l am more worried about, is what the Russian Response to this attack, will be.
A lot of Ukrainians will "freeze-to-kpai" this Winter, because Russia will attack their Energy Infrastructure so badly.

jUeLiZ:
Make Putin do him worse now....

Everytime Nuclear threat like say na only Russia get nuclear weapons.... make Putin press the button if him get mind...

iLoveYouToo:
Perfect example of the threat of a slap being more effective than the slap itself. Russia has lost the reverence it had. NATO and US feared Russia would attack them so they stayed neutral. We’re all shocked that Ukraine has survived the one sided onslaught from Russia for over 2 years.

Blackman101:
America is looking for a war and Putin will give it to them soon

VillageOracle00:
Let us be truthful, US are the people promoting Ukraine to do this, the just use to be so cruel, they will be at the back forcing people to go in

pook:
From a Russian perspective, Ukraine is not just a neighboring country, it is a larger part of the Soviet Union. Allowing Ukraine to join NATO is like letting your wife go to your opponent's house and having her get involved in a g!ng-bang.

xandy84:
You said it all. The fear factor that Russia has had disappeared and smaller nations feel that have a shot if Ukraine had survived this long. A good example is Swedeen and Finland. They refused to join Nato before cos of Russia response and after he started the war, and seeing the resistance of Ukraine, they joined Nato knowing they can hold their own even without Nato support. Russia has lost more in this war than Ukraine despite the war is been fought in Ukrainian soil.

Krismas:
America has always been the one attacking other nations. Its about time america get a russian attack. And if america escalate after the sure attack from russia, then russia can nuke the foolish arrogant america out of existence. the world will be a better place without america and NATO

BadBradley:
Russia should defeat Ukraine first before warning the West.

We all know Russia is just a developing country with nuclear weapons.

dru23:
They wanted and were ready. But the Biden administration didn't want to escalate things. Urkraine even beg and beg for more weapons to reach inside Moscow.

Biden decided to give Urkraine permission to use the USA made long range missles,when Putin decided to invite over 10k North Korean soldiers to posted at the Ukraine border..

Putin wants to dictate how Urkraine should fight him. He is indeed a mad man. He thinks na only him get monopoly on violence

smallsmall:
About Ukraine POSSESSING and GIVING-UP Nuclear Weapons and The ASSURANCES it was given:

1) I have read a few HERE, saying that Ukraine gave-up its Nuclear Weapon.
This statement is the usual Ignorant statements that people make, because they dont research what they are talking about and just say what they heard on MSM.
The fact here, is that[b] Ukraine NEVER HAD any Nuclear Weapon[/b], Period.
Explanation:
- For the records, USSR (as a single country, with its Capital and largest City, as Moscow), is the OWNER of all Nukes within its borders.
- Ukraine was one of the Cities of USSR, just like Moscow, which was the largest City and Capital.

- Moscow (now part of Russia), was the seat of Government of USSR and controlled access to all their Nukes. (A Nuke is not just the Missile alone, the most important things are the "Launch Codes", without which, the Nuke is just a piece of explosive, not different from any other conventional bomb.)
- Moscow OWENED all the Nukes of USSR.

- USSR has its Nukes STORED in different parts of the USSR, including in the City of Ukraine but the Cities themselves and by themselves. do not have control over the Nukes, except from the Capital and largest City, MOSCOW.

- Ukraine never OWNED, nor have CONTROL over any of the USSR Nukes STORED in its City.
They all belong to USSR and the Centre of that USSR-Government, was Moscow.

- When the USSR dissolved, the constituents Cities were seeking Independence, not all at the same time, but at different times, close to each other though.
- Ukraine broke-away and at that point, it was instructed to surrender all the Nukes stored on its territory, by Moscow (now Represented and Capital of Russia).

- Even if the Nukes were left on Ukrainian soil, Ukraine could not operate them because it does not have access to the launch codes.
Ukraine dutifully handed over the Nukes, to Russia.

- Also, the "Black Sea, Nuclear Submarine fleet" was stationed in Ukraine, under USSR.
It was also asked to hand them over to the Nation which succeeded USSR, that is Russia.

- In return, Ukraine asked for "Protection and assurances" for its security, which Russia and some other Powers promised.

I am saying all these, to let us know what transpired back then and to put an end to this false notion that Ukraine OWNED Nuclear Weapons at any point in time, in its History since 1991.

It is like saying 'River State' OWNS all the Oil Wells "of Nigeria", despite being on its Land?
That was one of the reasons Biafra (which had annexed the South-South, including Rivers, Delta, Edo and Bayelsa of today, as part of Biafra in 1968) could not be actualized, in the Civil War because there is no way Nigeria would have let-go of such "Resources", to a breakaway part of it.
There is No way Russia would have allowed Ukraine to keep those "Nukes and nuclear Submarines", and hand-over the Launch Codes to Ukraine.

Russia was the "succeeding Nation" to USSR, the owner of Moscow (its Capital) and the Nukes belongs to Moscow /Russia.
That is the way the World works.

2) Now, Let us talk about those ASSURANCES that Russia (and the US), gave Ukraine, back then in 1991:

- Those Assurances of 1991 given to Ukraine[/b, were PREMISED on [b]Ukraine not becoming a Hostile Nation to Russia.]

- Today, we know that Ukraine is not only a "Proxy and Pawn" for NATO war on Russia, it is also actively killing "Ethnic Russians" on its territory, It is burning their Churches, forbidding their language, bombing their Homes and it even made a failed attempt to occupy Russian territory of Kursk.
This means the "Condition for the Assurances" have been violated and Russia does not owe any apology, for not honoring the Assurances anymore.

naijaman2225:
LOL. You are just being polite. To paraphrase Senator John McCain, Russia is just one effing big gas station. Nothing special about that.

Iweakbro:
Lol. What other massive response? All these kids. Didn't you see the barrage of missiles Russia fired this week? Abi you no dhe watch the news?

The fight is fair now. Let everyone get a taste of their medicine.

uniquetechng:
That's what Russia has been using against Ukraine, 25,000 North Korean soldiers are also fighting for Russia against Ukraine.

CrossRhodes:
So Russia fired a barrage of nuclear missiles this week?
What a douchebag!

greggng:
Can you listen to yourself? The last time I checked Ukraine is an independent nation ...they don't need Russia permission to join any association . Usa doesn't prevent any of her nebors from joining any association . Brazil recently joined brets ...where Russia is the leader ...nobody is forcing them not to join . If Russia is Indeed a good country why all her nebors are interested in joining nato? No democratic country will not like to join nato for there protection against undemocratic country like Russia etc

pasol4real:
And who told you Russia has not been supporting Cuba militarily? If Dem born Cuba well they should attack usa....
Body go tell them....

Portage1:
If it does happen - Both countries will cease to exist within few minutes. Not Joking. Cuba will even go in less than 20 seconds.