₦airaland Forum

tete7000:
Because Obasanjo lives in a glass house and throws stone.

Yeah right! And the man who criticised everything when he was in opposition but is now implementing same policies he railed against is better breed abi

slimfit1:
If a clown can fix the economy like Obj did, what do we call Tinubu and Buhari that destroyed it Ma?

Fixed which economy, debt forgiveness by Oyibo na achievement, or his achievement is the 2nd gulf war under President Bush 2nd, that spiked the price of crude oil?

No be Obasanjo & em Military colleagues 1975-1999 borrow the money.

Make civilians come redeem money wey military borrow, pay back due under the 1993-1999 economic sanctions from The West?

They for wait tire.

Kukutente23:
What major and fundamental reform is Tinubu doing now? Fuel subsidy and naira devaluation abi? You lack commonsense
Who privatised telecoms in Nigeria? Who privatised power? Who recapitalised our banks? Who made our entertainment industry vibrant? Who brought EFCC and ICPC? Who brought IPPIS? Who carried out pension reforms? NHIS nko? Under who did it start?
You deserve a knock on the head for being so daft to say OBJ did not carry out any reform

You this Sharwama boy. You dey craze? Who be your mate? You are really begin to get on my nerves. I will deal with you. Walahi. Swear down. You are playing with fire. Where do you live? What State of Nigeria are you in? Stop fucking around nigga. I am warning you.

redcliff:
You must be a bastard. Where my legs have entered even you wey think say na abroad you dey, you no fit reach there. Mumu boy. We dey compare between nigerian presidents, mumu wey think say him be intellectual take comot comot naija.

They are all foolish and useless, we know, what are you going to do about it? we are comparing nigerian presidents not nigerian president and developed countries.

Empty noise maker, you are a local tout. Who dash you Benin Republic sef talk less of outside Africa? OBJ can only be idolised by you ignoramuses. We have granddads who were his schoolmate set in Ogun State along with MKO Abiola, Awolowo so many other Ogun illustrious sons. It is our heritage. Not yours.

We know who/what OBj is about first hand. You busybody Osus should learn to mind your business. A lot of Yorubas detest OBJ to the core for valid reason yet you homeless vagabonds are the ones always flying his worthless kite. Why is OBJ not in Yoruba Hall of fame like Abiola, Awolowo, Bola Ige, Gani Fawehinmi, Fela Anikulapo Kuti, Tai Solarin etal? Abi you know OBJ more than his people? Maga.

UltraSolid:
You this Sharwama boy. You dey craze? Who be your mate? You are really begin to get on my nerves. I will deal with you. Walahi. Swear down. You are playing with fire. Where do you live? What State of Nigeria are you in? Stop fucking around nigga. I am warning you.

I'm in my house. Com and beat me

seunowa:
Nigeria's economy was favourable and far better under sanni Abacha than Obasanjo and any other successive governments till date..

So eulogize Abacha to your heart’s content, but you’re only entitled to your opinions & not the facts. Through out Abacha’s time at the helm, Nigeria suffered under heavy sanctions imposed by the UN & the West. The same were increased by the killing of Ken Saro-Wiwa, and made worse by the assassination of Kudirat Abiola. If that is what u call favorable economic conditions, maybe u should have a chat with ur parents on what monkey dey work baboon dey chop really means. You think the late Gani Fawehinmi & NADECO members were just online keyboard warriors?? Dey play

UltraSolid:
Empty noise maker, you are a local tout. Who dash you Benin Republic sef talk less of outside Africa? OBJ can only be idolised by you ignoramuses. We have granddads who were his schoolmate set in Ogun State along with MKO Abiola, Awolowo so many other Ogun illustrious sons. It is our heritage. Not yours.

We know who/what OBj is about first hand. You busybody Osus should learn to mind your business. A lot of Yorubas detest OBJ to the core for valid reason yet you homeless vagabonds are the ones always flying his worthless kite. Why is OBJ not in Yoruba Hall of fame like Abiola, Awolowo, Bola Ige, Gani Fawehinmi, Fela Anikulapo Kuti, Tai Solarin etal? Abi you know OBJ more than his people? Maga.

Ok

Kukutente23:


I'm in my house. Com and beat me

Better get sense. Don't let me have your time. Online ain't so anonymous nigga. Trust me on that. You've been mouthing off for over a day now. You think you can't be touched? Are you in Lagos? Island? Mainland? Run and report me to mods for threats against you. They'll ban me. I'll catch up with you. No mods can save you then.

Kukutente23:
Yeah right! And the man who criticised everything when he was in opposition but is now implementing same policies he railed against is better breed abi

They are birds of a feather. Those who live in glass house don't throw stones. Obasanjo has no morality to talk about corruption. He is not better than those he criticises. He once romanced many of them.

UltraSolid:
Better get sense. Don't let me have your time. Online ain't so anonymous nigga. Trust me on that. You've been mouthing off for over a day now. You think you can't be touched? Are you in Lagos? Island? Mainland? Run and report me to mods for threats against you. They'll ban me. I'll catch up with you. No mods can save you then.

I'm in my house. Come and beat me.

If I don't see you in front of my house in the next 2 hours know that thunder will fire you wherever you are

Kukutente23:


I'm in my house. Come and beat me.

If I don't see you in front of my house in the next 2 hours know that thunder will fire you wherever you are

Fool. Why don't you DM me your name and address. If it is your real name and address, you'll stop posting today. My 'dispatch' will pick you up. I don't need to dirty my hands and I don't makes empty threats.

Some of you clowns need to be taught lessons now and then like that dumb Eze of Ajao estate threatening Lagos with IPOB invasion. He is still eating watery beans in kirikiri till now.

tete7000:
They are birds of a feather. Those who live in glass house don't throw stones. Obasanjo has no morality to talk about corruption. He is not better than those he criticises. He once romanced many of them.

100% correct talk. No fan of Atiku but OBJ is guilty of worse than he accused Turakin Adamawa (aka Atiku) of. OBJ is nothing but a false prophet with a messiah complex. "Non shall be greater than me while I am alive". The only ex President alway attacking all after him, as inadequate, is OBJ.

The greatest Yoruba and probably Nigerian leader ever was Awolowo in terms of giving transformational value to the people. OBJ did his best to destroy and frustrate that noble man. Go figure.

Bobodee09:
Well since you were born last night....Google about ladoja governor of oyo state impeachment

Google about Fayose first time as Governor impeachment

Google about Ngige kidnap in anambra.

Is either you were a toddler or born after 2007.


Am telling you a man didn't build any major road in the whole of South nigeria for good 8yrs you telling is only south west is in Nigeria.


He allowed lagos to enjoy is position?? The Lagos he fought the Governor and with held LG allocation??

It is a waste of time educating someone like you cos instead of learning you just be arguing blindly about something you no knowledge about.

You guys should stop masturbating on issue. Yes, OBJ approach to politics during his time were do or die affair and everyone know this and aside that his government also wasted a lot of money on power sector with little result to show for it. His government also heavily monetized the national and state assemblies, no doubt. If these three issues are taken away from OBJ's regime, his government were more focused and at the top of their job unlike all the governments after him.
The economy were more robust and having a futuristic look than what we have today.
We should not forget that the same OBJ inherited a dilapidated and almost broken Nigeria but he came and never complained about what he met on ground but assembled capable hands that truly weathered the storms for the country.
I asked this millennium question in the morning. Should all the problems created by OBJ still persist till date?
The same issue they are raising against OBJ, those issues are still much with us and even more prominent than when OBJ was president.
The do or die politics is still very much with us.
Monetization of National and State Assemblies is still much with us.
Much more money is still been expended on power sector till date with less improvement.
Why was it difficult for successive government to do something about those issues but they have all come to compound the situations?
We just need to stop shifting blames, let those elected to bring changes own up to their maladministration and inefficiency instead of blaming a man that have left government for close to 17 years. 17 years is not 1 or 2 years, a child born 17 years ago is now a father or mother.
The present government surrogate should stop blame game, as it would not help the country at all. They have failed in the last one year and they just need to wake up from their slumbering.

Meanwhile, OBJ built road in South West and even commissioned it. See an extract from the link attached.
https://allafrica.com/stories/200408100440.html

"Lagos — There is going to be an unpresidented upsurge in economic activities between the South-Western part of the country and the North, following the completion of the Ife-Ijesha Road dualization project, commissioned by President Olusegun Obasanjo, penultimate Friday.

The commissioning, which was witnessed by the Governor of Osun State, Chief Olagunsoye Oyinlola, and his Deputy, was hosted by the Minister of Works, Senator Adeseye Ogunlewe".

We are more in cherry picking his bad side than the all the good things he did for the country and not just his region but for the benefit of the whole country. As at today he is the most nationalistic president we've ever had.

Richtaiwo:
Obj is the recently adopted god of ipob miscreants. So, him accepting part of the responsibility is not even an issue. The issue is that before Obj will say pim, his new sheeples will quickly describe him as an infallible god that can never make mistakes.

This was their approach to Nnamdi Kanu's activities and recently to obifraud the agulu packaged fraud. As it is now, no one dares say gringory obituary is wrong in all these his desperate headless moves.

As noted recently, obifraud the religious bigot once condemned a well-known Christianity religious activities of night vigil, amazingly ipob miscreants unanimously agreed and clap hands for him and collectively insulted the living daylight out of churches and pastors.

Go and hustle. Leave the Igbos to avoid the high blood pressure that's about to knock you down. Igbos this, Igbos that haba!.

blacknp:
Fixed which economy, debt forgiveness by Oyibo na achievement, or his achievement is the 2nd gulf war under President Bush 2nd, that spiked the price of crude oil?

No be Obasanjo & em Military colleagues 1975-1999 borrow the money.

Make civilians come redeem money wey military borrow, pay back due under the 1993-1999 economic sanctions from The West?

They for wait tire.

Well his head at least brings goodluck unlike Tinubu and Buhari badlock.

UltraSolid:
Fool. Why don't you DM me your name and address. If it is your real name and address, you'll stop posting today. My 'dispatch' will pick you up. I don't need to dirty my hands and I don't makes empty threats.

Some of you clowns need to be taught lessons now and then like that dumb Eze of Ajao estate threatening Lagos with IPOB invasion. He is still eating watery beans in kirikiri till now.

I'm in my house se, come and beat me

May Amadioha bend your fingers if you don't find me. Awon eeyan ikwechegh

See nonentity forming boss

sammiewrite:
Anybody engaging Obasanjo and his makeshift support base is simply wasting their time. Obasanjo is craving attention (which he is not getting, at least from the person he intended), while his supporters are just the clown and losers we have always known them to be. Obasanjo and his hypocritical supporters can continue to delude themselves with the "better devil/evil" or recency theory, but there is no today without a yesterday. Also, there is nothing as a "better evil/devil." You are either a saint or devil, and baba is not a saint.

Mr. Man, you're not a realist at all. If dwelling in the past is your major occupation, then, you're a failure personified.
OBJ left office 17 years and some months ago but you people are still saying because of this and that he did is still the problem we are facing today. It means the nation have not progressed since he left office. I thought the purpose of a governor is to build on the successes of previous government and discard their failures or at best fine-tuned them for the overall best of the country.
Well, there's no gainsaying that OBJ's regime is still the best regime this country have witnessed. No doubt there are pockets of maladministration, like do or die politics, monetization of National and State Assemblies and corruption in power sector. But all in all our economy still fair better than the dungeon we are in today.

olisaEze:
The option to Yar’dua in that election don rule eight years comot. With hindsight wisdom now, if u had the power would u too have alllowed Buhari to rule seeing how far he has regressed dis nation?? If u can answer that honestly, then we’re gud.

I expected so much from buhari particularly in the area of curtailing corruption and prudent management of resources but I must confess that I was totally disappointed ☹️.

Vision101:
I expected so much from buhari particularly in the area of curtailing corruption and prudent management of resources but I must confess that I was totally disappointed ☹️.

I respect ur honesty, broda. But the way forward is not in persisting down the wrong track with the same people that put us right where we are. 👍

IfnobeGod20:
Mr. Man, you're not a realist at all. If dwelling in the past is your major occupation, then, you're a failure personified.
OBJ left office 17 years and some months ago but you people are still saying because of this and that he did is still the problem we are facing today. It means the nation have not progressed since he left office. I thought the purpose of a governor is to build on the successes of previous government and discard their failures or at best fine-tuned them for the overall best of the country.
Well, there's no gainsaying that OBJ's regime is still the best regime this country have witnessed. No doubt there are pockets of maladministration, like do or die politics, monetization of National and State Assemblies and corruption in power sector. But all in all our economy still fair better than the dungeon we are in today.

What you're trying to say is that, despite conceding that Obasanjo used to be everything he is now condemning today and maybe even worst, we should just overlook this glaring hypocrisy because of your bias for him, and instead focus only on the ills of the current and immediate past government? If I get you correctly, you mean it is only you and your camp that can grant clemency to whoever you want but others can't? Sorry, my bad. I guess I should have understand better when you guys would always reference Wole Soyinka for every cult related killings in Nigeria because he formed the first confraternity, but referencing Obasanjo role in our current state as a country is where you lots draw the line.
And for your last paragraph - well, ignorance, just like wailing, is a constitutional right. Fuel price under your Obasanjo more than 3x. And it was under your Obasanjo's regime that Idris Abdulkareem sang Nigeria jaga jaga.

olisaEze:
Someone met humungous debts on assuming office. But he should accept that he’s part of the problem from the new loans spent on luxuries for the new monarchy, 14yrs after he left excess cash & no debts behind. It’s amazing how dumb some people are prepared to sound, not for a seat at the table but for droppings & leftovers.

Obasanjo contributed to the mess the country is today. He re introduced corruption as president. Election rigging was his brainchild that other president after him, except Yaradua continue. He could not give account till date of 16b dollars he said he invested in power sector. Go and listen to fela song ITT and learn more about Obasanjo atrocities as even military head of state. To me you appear to be the dumb. Maurice iwu till date remains the worst INEC chairman and it was under Obasanjo regime. Obasanjo has no moral right to condemned Tinubu who is also not doing well too. He and Atiku built private universities as sitting public office holders and mandated governors of pdp and business tycoons to donate.

Adophus Wabara
Ayim Pius Anyim
Chuba Okadigbo

Only one president used them.

Several electoral malpractices. Late president Yar’adua confirmed this.

Destruction of all federal tollgates instead of digitizing payment collection.

Award of many federal roads several times without fixing them. Lagos-Ibadan Expressway was allegedly awarded many times by Obasanjo. Bi- Courtney is still alive.

Standard gauge railway contract awarded and billions of $$$$$$$ stô!en in his regime. No single train was working under baba.
No be Buhari come start the project?

2nd Naija bridge nko?

Ajaokuta deal wey go wrong nko? Who know wetin Yar’adua see wey make am cancel the deal when he took over.

Major subsidy collector

No balance of trade. Na so so import import until 2023 when T-pain started him own reform.

Sale of over half of federal government properties to himself - Transcorp and some power companies.

Power epilepsy and embezzlement of billions of Dollars meant for power sector reforms

Canceled local government autonomy

All edged sponsor of many electoral unrest (if you know, you know).

Lots of political silencing in his regime Ask Bola Ige’s family. No single arrest or prosecution till date.

Unlawful detention of political opponents.

Selective prosecution of ex governors.

Fuel queue every 5 market days because our refineries are not working.

Jamboree CONFAB and billions of Naira wasted on a report that no masses saw or even read the Table of Content of such report.

Boko boys were already bòmbīng their way to central Nigeria and we couldn’t stop them.

Grossly under founded military to tackle insurgency. And this has caused many of our farmers to stop or leave farming.

The list is endless.

That baba. He is too envious. He doesn’t want his record broken. Meanwhile, record is meant to be broken or shattered.

He 8s T-nubu and Fayose till tomorrow because they stood their ground against his style of governance. Soyinka nko? Fela family nko?

Tinubu would be happy removing fuel subsidy because of baba.

He never wished MKO Abiola well. Ask Rashidi Ladoja what Obasanjo did to him.

He was all edge to have influenced Babangida to take state capital to Osogbo, instead of Ile-Ife.


Atiku knows him well, the way he knows Atiku well. Atiku is only keeping quiet because of his political ambition. He knows baba can scuttle his plans.

Ask his divorced wife. She would tell you who that Kasongo is.

Obasanjo should have ruled with fear of God and make Nigeria a greater country because he was sentenced to kpai and God almighty brought him out.

This is someone who has ruled before in 1977. You are not new to presidency. You came in 1999 and only sought debt forgiveness and felt like a macho man.

If Abaxha had not delete and MKO kpaied, Abaxha would have kpai baba nah.

jayAjoku:
you are one of the stupid people I was talking about

you are the most stupid person on earth, idiot.

sammiewrite:
What you're trying to say is that, despite conceding that Obasanjo used to be everything he is now condemning today and maybe even worst, we should just overlook this glaring hypocrisy because of your bias for him, and instead focus only on the ills of the current and immediate past government? If I get you correctly, you mean it is only you and your camp that can grant clemency to whoever you want but others can't? Sorry, my bad. I guess I should have understand better when you guys would always reference Wole Soyinka for every cult related killings in Nigeria because he formed the first confraternity, but referencing Obasanjo role in our current state as a country is where you lots draw the line.
And for your last paragraph - well, ignorance, just like wailing, is a constitutional right. Fuel price under your Obasanjo more than 3x. And it was under your Obasanjo's regime that Idris Abdulkareem sang Nigeria jaga jaga.

Mr. Man, thankfully in my comment i did admit some faults of OBJ during his regime. The fault such as do or die politics, monetization of National and State Assemblies and corruption in the power sector. I never see OBJ as angel and I won't see him as one till tomorrow but issue must be placed in perspective and not see a spade as a spoon, instead of agricultural tool.

I asked this millennium question since morning.
Has the do or die politics died done?
Has monetization of National and State Assemblies gone?
Are more money not expended on power sector till date?
If all these questions are still rearing their ugly heads, it means every successive governments come to your the same line and they were not there to reshape and improve the system but to just fulfilled their own ambition.
If the purpose of government is to do for the people what they cannot ordinarily do for themselves but if as at today, we are still singing the same song of what OBJ did wrong 17 plus years ago and at that there is no improvement on those things, then, the country is in a big mess.

Meanwhile, it baffles me that some of you are comparing the economy of OBJ's regime to this Tinubu's regime. That's tantamount to comparing sleep and death.
Yes, OBJ met fuel price per liter at #20 and as at May 26, 2007 the price of fuel per liter was #65. It was on the May 27, 2007 that he increased it to #75, just two days to his handing over to Yar'adua and in less than a month, Yar'adua took it back to #65.
Now, are you comparing the increments between #20 to #75 in 8 years of OBJ to less than two years of Tinubu where the fuel price has gone from #145 to over #1,000 in a country where the purchasing power of the people have gone so low. Eating one square meal is difficult for some people.
It was during OBJ's regime that our inflation was one digit and since then we have not experience such.
Bag of rice was less than #4k then but today a bag of rice hovering between #80,000 to #120,000 depending on your location and the exchange rate wasn't more than #125 as at 2007 but today the exchange rate is almost #2,000 while he met it at #450.
Only untruthful person would descend low to want to compare a robust and futuristic economy OBJ to a dead economy will have today in Nigeria.
In all indices, APC government in the last 9 years have failed the nation.

Idris didn't sing that song because of famine or hunger but he sang the song because of the political killings of that time but records have it that in the history of Nigeria politics, 2015 election recorded the highest number of deaths. Curiously the same Idris sang a song to drag Tinubu to the floor as a result of the biting economy, which was worst that the jaga jaga he sang during OBJ.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/06/eedris-abdulkareem-drags-adeboye-tinubu-others-in-new-song-emi-lokan/&ved=2ahUKEwjx-aXHpuyJAxVSVUEAHak9L5gQFnoECCQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw39WzFXP_CxgjaC1obwfjjN

It is best for Tinubu and his supporters to own up to their maladministration than shifting blame than a man that fair better in his administration.

olisaEze:
Someone met humungous debts on assuming office. But he should accept that he’s part of the problem from the new loans spent on luxuries for the new monarchy, 14yrs after he left excess cash & no debts behind. It’s amazing how dumb some people are prepared to sound, not for a seat at the table but for droppings & leftovers.

You be olisa na , una like dey lie to una self so far una hate person... You all doing yourselves... Continue

UltraSolid:
Only clowns take OBJ seriously. Which Nigerian President, to date, has attempted to buy a third term in office as OBJ sought? That alone shows what OBJ is. An undemocratic and dictatorial know-it-all.

The man na wicked man ...

slimfit1:
Third term right now, I wish we had offered him 6 extra term because since he left, nobody has surpassed his records. We were still respected no matter what, he was at least doing the right thing for the poor and the country. Buhari and Tinubu's record will show that they have nothing in their brains.

You wey no dey take responsibilities no go understand or you just have short memory

DeLaRue:
It is easy for an economic team to look strong when crude oil was selling for an average of over $90 per barrel for several years and your population is ten of millions less than it is today.

Put that Obj economic team in charge when a new government comes in at a time when the country was using about 95% of its revenue to service debts, food production was hampered by relentless insecurity, fuel subsidy was costing trillions of naira per year, creditors including China were no longer willing to lend the country money etc and you will find the so-called strong OBJ economic team are not strong at all.

They were just lucky the global economic tide (mainly crude oil price) moved strongly in Nigeria's favour at the time.

You dey mind them , tomorrow them go dey claim literate... They don't just think

Sheuns:
You guys lie with so much confidence.

Crude price average between 1999 and 2007 was $44.23 per barrel and not 90 you mentioned. I simply used google to get the highest price of crude from 1999 to 2007 and calculated the average. You can as well go on and try that and show us how you arrived at $90

During Buhari’s 8 years crude oil average price was $64.1. In 2022, crude oil sold for as high as $100.

What did APC and Buhari do with all the money realized from crude oil sales as well as natural gas sales in their 8 years?

You be olodo , big one

slimfit1:
If a clown can fix the economy like Obj did, what do we call Tinubu and Buhari that destroyed it Ma?

Either you are igbo or a very lazy yoruba man ...

Mohzte:
See all the idiots talking otherwise and condemning obj are yorubas and all the idiots commending tinubu are still yorubas but then they'll say they're gaslighting the yoruba race, when since 2015 you guys have been playing tribal/betrayer politics , your alliance with the North would be your doom if you guys don't retrace your steps

You be igbo na