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| Re: Accept Part Of Responsibility For Nigeria’s Situation – Akande Tells Obasanjo by sammiewrite(m): 7:14am On Nov 21, 2024*. Modified: 8:01am On Nov 21, 2024 |
IfnobeGod20:Trying to compare a eight year president to a barely one year president? Trying to justify Obasanjo's price increment and criticising BAT's government for the same thing? For your information, fuel was more than 300 Naira and dollar was hovering between 780 - 820 when BAT took over. You also talked about 4k rice and 125 Naira exchange rate during OBJ's time. Can you avail me with the price of a bag of rice and exchange rate during Babangida and Abacha regime compared to OBJ's, since we are now doing comparisons? You see, it is your dishonesty, and the fact that I can see through your bias for PDP and OBJ, and your hate against anything APC, PMB and BAT, that I wouldn't want to proceed with this discussion. But crucify one and try to absolve the other all you like, but it won't change the fact that they're all failures, and there is no better failure. A failure is a failure |
| Re: Accept Part Of Responsibility For Nigeria’s Situation – Akande Tells Obasanjo by UltraSolid: 7:42am On Nov 21, 2024 |
Kukutente23:Ikwechegh is a bullying tramp and uncouth lout. I deal with those who fully deserve it. Like you. |
| Re: Accept Part Of Responsibility For Nigeria’s Situation – Akande Tells Obasanjo by UltraSolid: 7:47am On Nov 21, 2024 |
Fearurcreeator:Very wicked and vindictive. Never forgives or forgets either. This was someone who insisted on removing Peter Obi as Anambra Governor so his "son" Andy Ubah could be Governor. Pure act of wickedness. Removing a mandated governor viciously just to install his anointed. That is quintessential OBJ. To make matters worse, the unprincipled coward Obi is always prostrating for OBJ up and down today, as he does for Atiku who chased him out of PDP, whereas Fayose OBJ that did same to is still fighting OBJ today without backing down. Some of us know our history well to remember the many unjustified acts of wickedess of OBJ that ruined lives. It is why his own Yorubas despise him thoroughly and why he cannot form Saint for us today. |
| Re: Accept Part Of Responsibility For Nigeria’s Situation – Akande Tells Obasanjo by OlujobaSamuel: 8:15am On Nov 21, 2024 |
sammiewrite:Last line sums it up. A failure is a failure. I laff when some says he knows nothing about the NASS cash in the bag scandal/3rd term. Obj that we know to always mention names, whenever that issues pops up, he will say some govs, yet he never mentioned any govs name till date. We know the police officer that took the fund there, I wonder why the president can't make the police officer tell us who sent him, when same govt dragged a whole IG(Tafa) and sent him to jail for corruption. |
| Re: Accept Part Of Responsibility For Nigeria’s Situation – Akande Tells Obasanjo by Fearurcreeator: 8:37am On Nov 21, 2024 |
UltraSolid:He is still wicked to people in ota ... Ask around... Very useless man ... Northerners will do so many things for their people especially infrastructures ... E do dey do library... Werey man , road no good for him home town ... Yeye man |
| Re: Accept Part Of Responsibility For Nigeria’s Situation – Akande Tells Obasanjo by Kukutente23: 9:25am On Nov 21, 2024 |
UltraSolid:Stop deceiving yasef You can't do more than a rat |
| Re: Accept Part Of Responsibility For Nigeria’s Situation – Akande Tells Obasanjo by UltraSolid: 9:27am On Nov 21, 2024 |
Kukutente23:Fat fool, keep talking. |
| Re: Accept Part Of Responsibility For Nigeria’s Situation – Akande Tells Obasanjo by Kukutente23: 9:34am On Nov 21, 2024 |
UltraSolid:I thought by now you'll be in front of my house instead of beating your phone with your fingers ![]() Empty barrel |
| Re: Accept Part Of Responsibility For Nigeria’s Situation – Akande Tells Obasanjo by Fadeshewa301: 9:44am On Nov 21, 2024 |
IfnobeGod20:Please sir I sent you an email….. I want to ask you a question |
| Re: Accept Part Of Responsibility For Nigeria’s Situation – Akande Tells Obasanjo by IfnobeGod20(m): 6:47pm On Nov 21, 2024 |
VanuatuWycombe:1. AKERELE BUCKNOR KOFOWOROLA 2. Mr. FEMI PEDRO 3. PRINCE ABIODUN OGUNLEYE Only one man used these three deputies in a space of 8 years. These are the people he used his hand to chose by himself, not because anyone chose each of them for him but he could not manage them because of their interest to become the governor of Lagos state. This singular act opened the floodgate for political witch-hunt. He was the first Governor since Lagos history to have 3 deputies within a span of 8 years. Lagos has been one of the state where undemocratic activity prevalent in Nigeria. Mostly all the candidates are selected in the bed room of Baba Sope and anyone that dare complained are subjected to political witch-hunt and all forms of molestations. We know many that have parted their way from Baba Sope just because they challenged the status quo. Obanikoro, Pedro, Bucknor, Agbaje, Jador and many are on the radar. If on political killing, Lagos state was one of the states where political killings began. Funsho Williams was one of the people that was first killed for political reason in this country. Aside this, there are incidences of killing of OPC members and Hausas in Lagos during his reign, all were claimed to have been orchestrated by his government. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.news24.com/news24/lagos-clashes-leave-80-dead-20001017&ved=2ahUKEwjzzuzKqu2JAxXiakEAHSjPAEYQFnoECCEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0_XHcBbgvD3mcI2_zEVSKh Tollgates destruction was justified because those collecting the toll were not remitting to the government, so it was a conduit pipe for corruption. But are you aware that the same amount to have been collected as toll has been added to the price of pms that you buy per liter. This makes thekneh to go directly to the pocket of federal government instead of individual pockets. Stop spreading lie about. What you don't know, you ask question. Mr. Man, there is a difference between appropriation of road in the budget and it implementation. Road may be appropriated but that doesn't necessarily mean it has been approved for implementation. Until money is released for it and firstly bidded for, it remain what it is as ordinary document. Meanwhile, if a road is awarded and it wasn't completed or done, what is expected of successive government to do? Call the contractors back to site. Buhari did all these when he came in 2015 by calling all contractors that have been paid to go back to site or risk jail term and they all went back to complete the projected awarded to them. A good example is the Ilorin to Jebba road awarded to Emir of Ilorin. Government is a continuum, the one not done one government, another government if he comes and feel it is important for it to be done, he should do it. Unlawful detention of political opponents like who? Please list their names. Please why must you lie. Fuel queue in every market day. This lie is too much. If you have person issue with OBJ, why can't you just sue him than rolling out lies unabated. OBJ awarded railway contract in 2006, just a year to the expiration of his tenure and you expect the railway to be working within a year that he awarded the contract. Here below is the link to the award of the rail contract to puncture your lie. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://allafrica.com/stories/200608100385.html&ved=2ahUKEwiY6NLm9O2JAxVMW0EAHUPlGHAQFnoECBkQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0trqIlw9XFM7HHXACvL4ST Jonathan confirmed in one of his outing that the railway was contracted by OBJ and not him and he said it without mincing words, that it was OBJ that revived the railway. The link is below for your education. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.nairaland.com/2093716/railway-lies-jonathan-confirms-obj&ved=2ahUKEwiY6NLm9O2JAxVMW0EAHUPlGHAQFnoECB0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw3DLOrL7JmpQHRq4_weYpvx You can try to bring OBJ down but you came late because his work and legacies cannot be bought in the market. He is not a perfect human being but the man was truly on top of his job as a president. Are you aware that OBJ almost face out the subsidy regime as at 2007 when he was living. The policy was at the second phase in 2007 but Yar'adua came and reversed the policy. How could that be his problem Mr. Man? Just I have said, if you have personal beef with OBJ, why not be courageous enough and sue him than libeling his person and administration. Mr. Liar, Boko Haram began active destruction in 2009, two years after OBJ left office. Here below is a link to when the insurgency began in the country but you claimed that Boko Haram have started bombing during his term. Why this lie, are you a brother to the devil? https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boko_Haram&ved=2ahUKEwjc8viv9-2JAxXFUkEAHTGpBQgQFnoECBgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw11IQ2w7f63nQjvVPBO9eAB Mr. Man, was anytime local governments have autonomy? If you're truthful, it was only during OBJ that the country really enjoyed what is called grassroots governance. It was during his time that people know their chairman and counselors. It was people like Tinubu that destroyed the administration of LGA by the replication of LGAs to LCDAs. That was the genesis of the problem of LGAs. The replication was the genesis of the problem will face till date. As state governors start ceasing LGAs allocation on the premise of dividing same to all, since those LCDAs have no direct allocation. Just I have been saying, if you have personal score to settle with OBJ, honorably do that through the right channel rather than lying against him or going personal even to his family life. If Tinubu is your God, he cannot be everyone God. It will take another world for Tinubu to untie OBJ's heavy shoe. How can OBJ be envious of a person he is more than in any parameter you can talk of. The influence OBJ command everywhere in the world, till the next world before your Tinubu can command that. You can only be jealous of someone that is more than you and not someone you're more than in all aspect of life. Yes, I say so without mincing words. Tinubu can only do catch up but can't beat the reach. |
| Re: Accept Part Of Responsibility For Nigeria’s Situation – Akande Tells Obasanjo by VanuatuWycombe: 6:59pm On Nov 21, 2024 |
IfnobeGod20:Out of so many accusations against baba, you were only able to defend, lamely, a few. I am not even particular about Lagos State now. Many time they raise Lagos State issue like that if Obasanjo, we go tackle Lagos State. Dem no carry fire for head We all know there was corruption at tollgates but demolishing them was not the right solution. Digitizing revenue collection and accountability was the best solution. If Obasanjo is your god, good luck to you. Tinubu can never be my God. I never voted and never supported him. So deal with all those issues we raised. I don’t need all your gibberish and google news sources. For me saying OBJ is envious, I never mentioned only Tinubu. I mentioned so any other people, including late Oni of Ife. I pray he grows older and when he goes, you would hear much about him. Breeze go blow fow nyan.sh Baba remains Chief Corru-ption Offcer of Naija. |
| Re: Accept Part Of Responsibility For Nigeria’s Situation – Akande Tells Obasanjo by IfnobeGod20(m): 7:17pm On Nov 21, 2024 |
sammiewrite:They are not all failure. One fair better than the other and I am not out to exonerate OBJ, I did mentioned areas that OBJ failed in my comment and I will continue to do that till tomorrow but comparing a failed government to a government that was on top of her job, it is unfair and untruthful. Here below is the exchange rate of naira to dollar from 1995 through 2022 for proper comparison: 1995 $1 = N21.89 (N71.70 Black Market Rate) 1996 $1 = N21.89 (N84.58 Black Market Rate) 1997 $1 = N21.89 (N84.58 Black Market Rate) 1998 $1 = N21.89 (N84.70 Black Market Rate) 1999 $1 = N21.89 (N88-N90 Black Market Rate) 2000 $1 = N85.98 (N105.00 Black Market Rate) 2001 $1 = N99-N106 (N104-N122 Black Market Rate) 2002 $1 = N109-N113 (N122-N140 Black Market Rate) 2003 $1 = N114-N127 (N135-N137 Black Market Rate) 2004 $1 = N127-N130 (N137-N144 Black Market Rate) 2005 $1 = N132-N136 2006 $1 = N128.50-N131.80 2007 $1 = N120-N125 2008 $1 = N115.50-N120 2009 $1 = N145-N171 2010 $1 = N148.21-N154.8 2011 $1 = N151.05-N165.1 2012 $1 = N155.09-N161.5 2013 $1 = N153.21-N162.9 2014 $1 = N170-N199 2015 $1 = N199-N300 2016 $1 = N300-N320 (N310-N370 Black Market Rate) 2017 $1 = N360 2022. Now. = Official = N419. Oops. Unofficial = N610. https://www.nairaland.com/7161648/naira-dollar-exchange-rate-history I hope you have seen that if OBJ and now compare it to what we have today? At official rate today is almost #1,500 while at the parallel market is almost #2,000. How would someone with conscience compare an increment less than #55 to an increment of over a#1,000, if the person is not a wizard or witch. On the price of fuel increment from 1994 till date: Abacha-Oct 4, 1994: N15 to N11(price dropped 26.67%) Abubakar-Dec 20, 1998: N11 toN25 (127.27%) Abubakar-Jan 6,1999: N25 to N20(price dropped 25 %) Obasanjo -June 1, 2000: N20 to N30 (50%) Obasanjo-June 8, 2000: N30 to N22(price drops 26.67%) Obasanjo-Jan 1, 2002: N22 to N26 (18.18% Obasanjo-June, 2003: N26 to N42 (61.54%) Obasanjo-May 29, 2004: N42 to N50 (19.05%) Obasanjo-Aug 25, 2004: N50 to N65 (30%) Obasanjo-May 27, 2007: N65 to N75 (15.39%) Yar’ Adua-June, 2007: back to N65(price drops 15.39%) Jonathan -Jan 1,2012: N65 to N141 (116.92%) Jonathan – Jan 17, 2012: N141 to N97 (Price drops 31.21%) Jonathan – Feb, 2015 N97 to N87 (price drops 10.31%) Buhari – May 11, 2016: N87 to N145 (66.67%) Yar’Adua was the only president who did not increase pump price of fuel. He reduced it from N75 to N65. https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/12/timeline-fuel-price-increments/ Buhari left the price of fuel at #145 but today fuel is being sold between #1,100 to #1,500 depending on your location. One thing I discovered is, many of you just follow blindly without applying common sense to issue. I will continue to say it, OBJ is not an angel and he will not be but comparing even his first one year in office to this deadly one year regime is comparing death to life. There is a common saying in Yoruba parlance that says, oju to ma ba ni kale, kin wapin lowuro (the eye that will last you till night would not at early life brings out eye gunk). Tinubu started his government on a very wrong footing and that has destabilized his government, except he is courageous enough to amend his policies because it wouldn't work, as we are oil dependent and foreign goods dependent country. We produce virtually nothing. |
| Re: Accept Part Of Responsibility For Nigeria’s Situation – Akande Tells Obasanjo by sammiewrite(m): 7:45pm On Nov 21, 2024 |
IfnobeGod20:Still doesn't change my position about hate and bias, which blinds one to fact and reality because if it is not that, under OBJ according to your data which I couldn't independently verify, exchange rate rose from 22 Naira to 120 Naira (that is a 6x or 600% increase!). Ditto, fuel price rising from 20 Naira to 75 Naira, which is more than 3x or 300%. How you managed to be silent about these facts in your long write up is what I'm still trying to wrap my head around. And you keep talking about Buhari leaving fuel price at 145 Naira. In this same Nigeria? And Goodluck leaving exchange rate at 145 Naira when it is in fact 197 Naira? I'm afraid I'm going to end this discussion because I can't imagine having a conversation with someone who can go to such a great length to lie and try to revise history just to support failed, evil, and unpatroitic leaders. Goodbye and have a nice one. |
| Re: Accept Part Of Responsibility For Nigeria’s Situation – Akande Tells Obasanjo by Fadeshewa301: 7:52pm On Nov 21, 2024 |
IfnobeGod20:Please sir…… you said you’re a federal worker so I have a question sir. I’m pursuing a federal job and by God’s grace when I get it I will have to do documentation, can I submit the first school leaving certificate that was given to me by my private primary school or must I submit one issued by a government body (ministry of Education)? |
| Re: Accept Part Of Responsibility For Nigeria’s Situation – Akande Tells Obasanjo by IfnobeGod20(m): 9:06pm On Nov 21, 2024 |
VanuatuWycombe:I don't dwell on frivolities that was why I got tired of your lies you spewed out there. Mr. Man, demolishing the tollgates was the best thing done by OBJ's government, if it was necessary governments that came after him would have built them back and the nation will return to tolling directly again. Please can you tell me any system that Nigeria cannot compromised? Even banks systems that have been digitalized, Nigerians still ways of compromising them. The best and direct way of sourcing for the money is the direct payment on the point of purchase of the pms at the ports. And that was why it was added to the price of pms, which every marketers pay for at the point of purchase and in return retailers pay for same at nozzle. Mr. Man, you've raised but nothing. You only ended up cooking up lies upon lies and even went personal on OBJ and his family, instead of focusing on his government. This is why I told you, of you have personal score to settle with him, the best place to go to vent your anger is the law court than throwing lie about unabated. Everything you said we're all bogus lies and that was why I got fed up to puncture the remaining lies, as my comment was already looking voluminous. You have already elevated Tinubu to the class of God and you have seen him infallible by shielding his many fault lines and going haywire against your perceived enemy in OBJ. Why would OBJ be envious of anyone for that matter? What does OBJ want that God has not blessed him with? He's still the most decorated president till date and till the world to come. Let someone beat his 11 years reign first, before we can say he is envious of the person. How can he be envious of mushrooms people? It seems you don't even know OBJ. You're praying for OBJ to grow old, a man that is already 87 years. He said, he is already at the departure lounge and ready to go at any time. The man is not even afraid of death, unlike the rest ojelus in the town. If OBJ is the Chief Corruption Officer of naija, then, Tinubu should be Emeritus Corruption Officer of Naija. |
| Re: Accept Part Of Responsibility For Nigeria’s Situation – Akande Tells Obasanjo by IfnobeGod20(m): 9:09pm On Nov 21, 2024 |
Fadeshewa301:That of your school is more viable because it will show details of your school, which is what they needed for always asking for primary school cert. |
| Re: Accept Part Of Responsibility For Nigeria’s Situation – Akande Tells Obasanjo by VanuatuWycombe: 9:29pm On Nov 21, 2024 |
IfnobeGod20:They are both corrupt. Wa ibikan joko si jo. A.ss licker OBJ. I guess he helped you or your family or you are stèâling from him. |
| Re: Accept Part Of Responsibility For Nigeria’s Situation – Akande Tells Obasanjo by IfnobeGod20(m): 10:30pm On Nov 21, 2024 |
sammiewrite:Mr. Man, I don't drop data without attaching the link to it. That was I attached the links to them for verification. If you've used your common sense, you would have know that the increment was for a period of 8 years. But you were blind to see that OBJ even dropped the price within the 7 days he increased it to #30 to #22. I know you feigned ignorance of that. It was after two years he increased it to #26. Again, It was after full three years on the reign that he increased it to #42. And again #50 after a year and after three months he increased it to #65 and it was in #65 till two days to the expiration of his tenure when he increased the price to #75. Now, for point of emphasis, the increase was informed because they were phasing out subsidy, and that was phase one while phase two was expected to be phased out by Yar'adua's government but instead within a month of his assumption of office, he reverted to the old price and started paying as subsidy the differential. OBJ planned a good ground for Yar'adua government but he spoilt it and that was the genesis of subsidy payment till date. If Yar'adua had kept to the policy of phasing out the subsidy, the problem would have been solved for long. Meanwhile, you will see that the increments were systematic and not fire brigade and combat approach that Tinubu ditched out. I paste here again for point of emphasis. Obasanjo -June 1, 2000: N20 to N30 (50%) Obasanjo-June 8, 2000: N30 to N22(price drops 26.67%) Obasanjo-Jan 1, 2002: N22 to N26 (18.18% Obasanjo-June, 2003: N26 to N42 (61.54%) Obasanjo-May 29, 2004: N42 to N50 (19.05%) Obasanjo-Aug 25, 2004: N50 to N65 (30%) Obasanjo-May 27, 2007: N65 to N75 (15.39%) Let me go mathematical as to compare it with the government of Tinubu almost two years. OBJ increase the price per liter of pms from #20 - #26 in his two years on the reign. Let's now compare it with almost two years of Tinubu. Tinubu met the price of pms per liter at #145 but today the price is between #1,200 to #1,500 depending on location. Why OBJ increment is about 25% while Tinubu increment is within the range of 80% to above 100% depending on location. Even if you're considering the whole year for OBJ, people purchasing power weren't as low as we have now. People can still afford it easily than what we have now. Please where in my comment did you see #145 as the last exchange rate during Jonathan's reign? Check very well, you will see #199 and #300 at parallel market. Let me recopy here for you to see it very well or better still use your glasses so that you can see it very well. "2012 $1 = N155.09-N161.5 2013 $1 = N153.21-N162.9 2014 $1 = N170-N199 2015 $1 = N199-N300 2016 $1 = N300-N320 (N310-N370 Black Market Rate) 2017 $1 = N360 2022. Now. = Official = N419. Oops. Unofficial = N610. |
| Re: Accept Part Of Responsibility For Nigeria’s Situation – Akande Tells Obasanjo by IfnobeGod20(m): 10:41pm On Nov 21, 2024*. Modified: 10:29am On Nov 22, 2024 |
VanuatuWycombe:Mo ti jo ko already. Mi o duro rara. Sorry, they are not both corrupt because no known law court have tried them and found them guilty. May be you're the one that is corrupt because I don't know whether you've been tried and convicted before. It's not until he helped me or any member of my family before I put into perspective issues. I hate people that slander for no reason. Just the same way you said both are corrupt while that can be your personal opinion, which is wrong in anyway, as no one is permitted to call other a thief untill a court of competent jurisdiction commit such person to that. Media trail or public opinion cannot be law in a constitutional country and that is what is common among you people. You just look at people and start labelling them corrupt. E ma lo noba sisi yin fa. |
| Re: Accept Part Of Responsibility For Nigeria’s Situation – Akande Tells Obasanjo by Fadeshewa301: 12:03am On Nov 24, 2024 |
IfnobeGod20:Okay….Thank you sir |
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