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achorladey:
The major reality Jehovah's witnesses all over the world have their brains manipulated not to think well about and eyes coloured not to see. The grand fraud and delusion put in place to make them believe a religious organization set up by a man and his associates in late 1800 is Jehovah's organization and only channel God is using to communicate grand lies and delusions

MaxInDHouse:
Some faithless people often say God's modern day worshipers are false prophets because they keep on doing what John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth did during their lifetime.
John and Jesus said some 2,000 years ago:

"Repent for God's Kingdom is at hand" [Matthew 3:2; 4:17} what is the meaning of "at hand"?
If John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth could say God's Kingdom is at hand or will soon be here should we consider the both of them to be FALSE PROPHETS since it's been 2,000 years now and still counting or we need to figure out what they meant by that statement?

MaxInDHouse:
Some faithless people often say God's modern day worshipers are false prophets because they keep on doing what John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth did during their lifetime.
John and Jesus said some 2,000 years ago:
"Repent for God's Kingdom is at hand" [Matthew 3:2; 4:17} what is the meaning of "at hand"?
If John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth could say God's Kingdom is at hand or will soon be here should we consider the both of them to be FALSE PROPHETS since it's been 2,000 years now and still counting or we need to figure out what they meant by that statement?

johnw47:
"Millions now Living will never Die". In 1924

MaxInDHouse:
In the year 33 this is what happened:
Jesus said to her: “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who exercises faith in me, even though he dies, will come to life; and everyone who is living and exercises faith in me will never die at all. Do you believe this?" John 11:25-26
If Jesus in the year 33[/b] could say the above and none of those who heard him and strongly believe in him are no more today please why criticize his group that's saying exactly the same thing in the [b]year 1924?
Surely most of you don't understand certain things but just arguing blindly because it's exactly what Jesus said in the year 33 that his group kept saying in the year 1924!

johnw47:
the dead in Christ will be resurrected and those alive with faith will never die.

MaxInDHouse:
Did they have faith in Jesus that day?
Are they still living today?

MaxInDHouse:
Just as his utterances confused many even his disciples because they weren't perfect same is happening today but what Jesus promised that his disciples will achieve globally is noticeable throughout the earth today.
Only faithful, humble and righteous people can grasp this! Zephaniah 2:2-3

johnw47:
1. did who have faith in Jesus on what day?
2. are who living today?

johnw47:
the achievements people notice about you false jw's is your false prophecies, your lies, your confusion,

MaxInDHouse:
Just as millions of Jews are saying Jesus is fake because they don't understand what he said!

MaxInDHouse:
So you are now saying what you thought Jesus should have said which could be translated in different ways based on the mindset of each listener or reader!

MaxInDHouse:
Just as millions of Jews are saying Jesus is fake because they don't understand what he said!

johnw47:
How 1919 is Derived; jwfacts..com

Rutherford's Imprisonment

Whilst Watchtower spins the jailing of Rutherford and his associates as "Babylonish" captivity, the reason they were jailed was for sedition. The Finished Mystery vilified other religions and encouraged sedition against the United States government.

"In Shaffer v. United States (9th Cir. 1919), the defendant was found guilty of possessing and mailing copies of the book, The Finished Mystery , which contained the passage, “standing opposite to these Satan has placed [a] certain delusion which is best described by the word patriotism, but which is in reality murder, the spirit of the very devil. [If] you say it is a war of defense against wanton and intolerable aggression, I must reply that [it] has yet to be proved that Germany has any intention or desire of attacking us. [The] war itself is wrong. Its prosecution will be a crime. There is not a question raised, an issue involved, a cause at stake, which is worth the life of one blue-jacket on the sea or one khaki-coat in the trenches.” The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that “the service may be obstructed by attacking the justice of the cause for which the war is waged, and by undermining the spirit of loyalty which inspires men to enlist or to register for conscription in the service of their country” (Stone)." academic.evergreen.edu (As of June 2007)

"After their trialsome period of 1917-1919, Jehovah’s people subjected themselves to scrutiny. Realizing that they had acted in ways that did not meet with God’s approval, they sought forgiveness in prayer repenting of their former course. This led to Jehovah’s forgiveness and blessing. One compromise had been the cutting of pages from The Finished Mystery, this to please those who had assumed the position of censor. Another occurred when The Watch Tower of June 1, 1918, stated: "In accordance with the resolution of Congress of April 2nd, and with the proclamation of the President of the United States of May 11, it is suggested that the Lord’s people everywhere make May 30th a day of prayer and supplication." Subsequent comments lauded the United States and did not harmonize with the Christian position of neutrality." Yearbook 1975 p.119

The Finished Mystery quote above was page 251 of the 1917 edition. Rather than stand fast to its beliefs and principles, Watchtower meekly followed the United States governmental ordered to remove pages 247 to 254 from The Finished Mystery.

In the 1918 edition, the section covering the sub-heading “Out of the mouth of the dragon” was reduced from 5 pages to 1 paragraph. Click here for a PDF scan of the pages from the 1917 edition that were removed from the 1918 edition.

Watchtower was not imprisoned for preaching truth about God’s Kingdom; it was for taking side in politics. Their release was equally a violation of their principles, a result of complying with the government order to change what they had printed. Neither action showed them to be spiritually cleansed.



giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said:
"Anyone believing in me will never die" John 11:26
Where are those believing in him back then?

johnw47:
How 1919 is Derived; jwfacts..com


giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.


Evil Slave

Watchtower has been strongly critical of followers that left during this period, and spent almost a century describing them as the "evil slave class.” (Note: the doctrine of whom the evil slave class changed in 2013)

"The modern-day history of Jehovah's witnesses shows that attempts have been made by some, making up an "evil slave" class, to assume control over Jehovah's work and his people." Watchtower 1971 Jul 15 p.437

Many Watchtower followers left during this the period after 1914, recognising Watchtower as a false prophet, falsely teaching that the New System would arrive in 1914.

Prominent members removed themselves from the organisation as well, taking offence at the leadership of Rutherford.

"Following Brother Russell’s death, some who had been prominently associated with the organization fell away." Jehovah's Witnesses-Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.257

After the death of Russell, Rutherford took control of The Watch Tower Society. In his will, Russell had outlined a list of 5 recommended names for the Editorial Committee. ("Will and Testament of Charles Taze Russell" Watchtower 1915 Dec 1 reprints p.5999) Despite not being on this preferred list, Rutherford took leadership, and enforced this through a legal battle against the other directors.

Rutherford went on to commission the printing of The Finished Mystery without obtaining the permission of the directors, as required by the Watchtower charter.

"At noon, July 17, 1917, this book was released at the Bethel dining room table. As Brother Russell had been accustomed to do, Brother Rutherford gave a present of this book to each member of the Bethel family. It came as a bombshell. Completely surprised by its release, the opposing members of the board of directors immediately seized upon this issue and made it the occasion of a five-hour controversy over the administration of the Society's affairs." Jehovah's Witnesses in the Divine Purpose p.70

Watchtower has used the term evil slave to vilify those followers that could not in good conscience align themselves with an organisation that have proven itself to be a false prophet, and attack the directors that could not align themselves with its new leader that aggressively took control and introduced new doctrine that were far fetched, law breaking, and are even more embarrassing to read today.

The period 1914 to 1919 is the low point of their history, yet now described as the time that Jesus chose them to lead his organisation. 1914 had proven to be false prophecy, with not a single prediction for that year taking place. In 1916, the founder, Pastor Russell, died and Rutherford took leadership in a hostile takeover embroiled in legal battles. From there he launched a platform to dramatically change the religion over the next two decades.

It should be a matter of grave concern for each of Jehovah's Witnesses that the underlying doctrine for 1919, the year so key to their leadership's authoritarian claims, rests on such baseless Scriptural and historical manipulation.

MaxInDHouse:
If Jesus in the first century said:
“I am the resurrection and the life. The one who exercises faith in me, even though he dies, will come to life;  and everyone who is living and exercises faith in me will never die at all. Do you believe this?” John 11:25-26
But none among them is still living here on this planet today then Jehovah's Witnesses are right that he is the one leading their group since 1914 because what you quoted in their publications is exactly what Jesus said back then, he never mentioned any specific date rather he raised the hope of his listeners and many of them had a wrong expectation just as they does today! John 21:22-23

johnw47:
truly lost false jw mad max
it isn't Jesus who is leading you false prophets and blasphemers of the holy spirit etc.
1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

MaxInDHouse:
You can continue deceiving yourself but it's clear that Jehovah's Witnesses are doing the work Jesus assigned to his disciples which is preaching and teaching people everywhere to have faith in God's Kingdom {Matthew 28:19-20} and many have vowed never to raise weapons against their neighbors or learn war anymore! Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3
That's what they are supposed to achieve even though they don't fully understand everything Jesus said in the spirit! John 21:22-23

johnw47:
i know for a fact that you and janosky blasphemed the Holy Spirit.

MaxInDHouse:
I just told you the fruit of God's Holy Spirit and how a group (Jehovah's Witnesses) are yielding it globally but you're bent on ACCUSING this wonderful group.
So you are the accuser of God's people who is empty-headed yet thinking he knew something.
The fruit of the spirit of God is LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, KINDNESS, GOODNESS, MILDNESS, FAITH and SELF-CONTROL {Galatians 5:22-23} this is what Apostle Paul said the Christians should promote anywhere they are because against such things there is no law!
So if you don't know any group performing in this regard yet accusing the one and only organization meeting up with this assignment then it's the ADVERSARY you're working for! 1Peter 5:8

johnw47:
lost false jw mad max
truly most dum one, blaspheming the Holy Spirit is not the fruit of the Holy Spirit:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

MaxInDHouse:
Surely you don't even know what blasphemy is because if you do you won't be accusing the one and only organization that's teaching imperfect humans to yield positivity regarding the fruit of God's Holy Spirit! Galatians 5:22-23