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Since the end of the war in 1970, there have been ceaseless and desperate attempts by federal Nigeria and the main beneficiaries of the unfortunate outcome of the war who reside in the South West and the north, to balkanize the former Eastern Nigeria. This has been done through all sorts of measures, including nebulous state creations and tricky boundary adjustments, that have carved out many Igbo communities at the peripheries, and handed them over as minorities to surrounding non Igbo speaking states.

These acts have led to a lot of marginalisations, segregations and taunts directed towards these set of Igbos. It has also led to a situation where the five South Eastern states have been neglected and deprived of deu royalties, allocations, appointments and all what not from the federal government. For instance in every project for development or sharing of resources in Nigeria, the South East states ALWAYS come last. ALL THE TIME! SINCE 1966!!!

Recently, An attempt by the Igbos in Delta state to have a new state created for them and to join their kiths and kins in the South East, instigated a firestorm as many people especially from the ruling South West section of the APC, insisted that there are no indigenous Igbos in the Niger Delta. Even when these interlopers were reminded of the language and other cultural similarities between the Igbo speaking parts of the Niger Delta and the Igbos in the South East, they stuck to their guns.

My questions here are; since this view is popular in the South West, can we stretch the diabolical logic behind it by saying that the Aworis and Eguns are not Yorubas, especially now that these groups are desperately angling for a breathing space in Lagos their homeland? Since most interior Yorubas can't even understand whatever the Aworis speak, while most Igbos can easily understand the Ika dialect, can we insist that Lagos is not a Yoruba state but an Aworis and Eguns state, the same way some South westerners want us to believe that Ikwerres and Ikas are not Igbos but "Niger Deltans"?

I'm confused..

owobokiri:
Since the end of the war in 1970, there have been ceaseless and desperate attempts by federal Nigeria and the main beneficiaries of the unfortunate outcome of the war who reside in the South West and the north, to balkanize the former Eastern Nigeria. This has been done through all sorts of measures, including nebulous state creations and tricky boundary adjustments, that have carved out many Igbo communities at the peripheries, and handed them over as minorities to surrounding non Igbo speaking states.

These acts have led to a lot of marginalisations, segregations and taunts directed towards these set of Igbos. It has also led to a situation where the five South Eastern states have been neglected and deprived of deu royalties, allocations, appointments and all what not from the federal government. For instance in every project for development or sharing of resources in Nigeria, the South East states ALWAYS come last. ALL THE TIME! SINCE 1966!!!

Recently, An attempt by the Igbos in Delta state to have a new state created for them and to join their kiths and kins in the South East, instigated a firestorm as many people especially from the ruling South West section of the APC, insisted that there are no indigenous Igbos in the Niger Delta. Even when these interlopers were reminded of the language and other cultural similarities between the Igbo speaking parts of the Niger Delta and the Igbos in the South East, they stuck to their guns.

My questions here are; since this view is popular in the South West, can we stretch the diabolical logic behind it by saying that the Aworis and Eguns are not Yorubas, especially now that these groups are desperately angling for a breathing space in Lagos their homeland? Since most interior Yorubas can't even understand whatever the Aworis speak, while most Igbos can easily understand the Ika dialect, can we insist that Lagos is not a Yoruba state but an Aworis and Eguns state, the same way some South westerners want us to believe that Ikwerres and Ikas are not Igbos but "Niger Deltans"?

I'm confused..

Aworis are debatably Yorubas but the Egun who call themselves Ogu people are not Yorubas. They are closer to the Fon speakers of Benin republic than Yorubas. Their language isn't even Yoruboid but the intonation is similar to Yoruba intonation. The king of Badagry, an Ogu man bears the title 'Akran' and not 'Oba'. The Ogu history is well documented. They can be found in South Eastern Benin republic, Lagos and Ogun states. A good number of the Ogu people in Nigeria are bilingual in Ogu and Yoruba but they're not Yoruba or a yoruboid group.
One key thing to identifying a Yoruboid group is the absence of the alphabet 'z' in their language or dialect.

Comparing the Ika and Ikwerre situation towards the SE Igbos as similar to the Egun/Yoruba connection is totally wrong. The others are pure dialects of Igbo while Egun isn't a dialect of Yoruba.

Ikwerres are who they say are
Every ethnic group deserves to stay on their own without being affiliated with another ethnic group

OP you and your likes should rest. Igbo or not, how does that put food on your table?
You guys keep constituting nuisance with these useless argument that only bring insults to Igbos

Rest!!!!! Ikwerres Said that are ikwerres and not Igbos so Rest!!!!

There are no indegenous yorubas in Lagos all are ones you see are migrants from the yoruba hinterland and descendants of freed slaves,that is why one thug can trek from irabiji to Lagos and become governor .

You guys should stop all this unnecessary attention to yourself.

Wetin self. We have over 200+ tribes in Nigeria fcs.

This attention seeking is no longer making any sense

If they say they are not Yorubas they are not, stop forcing your identity on people.

I don't know about Awori, but Eguns are not Yorubas. No Argument on that.

Goodmarlian:
There are no indegenous yorubas in Lagos all are the ones you see are migrants from the yoruba hinterland and descendants of freed slaves,that is why one thug can trek from irabiji to Lagos and become governor .

Define Lagos
You are a fool
Lagos state was created in 1967

It had 5 divisions
Lagos
Ikorodu
Ikeja
Epe
Badagry
Prior to 1967 the Lagos division stood alone as federal capital
The other 4 divisions were part of the Western Region governed from Ibadan
REPEAT IBADAN

AGAIN..?

IBADAN

*Ibadan was responsible for Ikorodu Epe Badagry and Ikeja till 1967

Badagry covers all of Orile Festac etc

Ikeja covers Mushin Isolo

So the capital alone was federal until 1967

Epe and Ikorodu are Ijebu land

Badadry is Awori and Egun and
Ikeja is a mixture of settlers from Nupe. e.g Oshodi Egba e.g Abule Egba etc

So don't put dirty mouth in Lagos State matter if you don't know the history

aribisala0:
Define Lagos
You are a fool
Lagos state was created in 1967

It had 5 divisions
Lagos
Ikorodu
Ikeja
Epe
Badagry
Prior to 1967 the Lagos division stood alone as federal capital
The other 4 divisions were part of the Western Region governed from Ibadan
REPEAT IBADAN

AGAIN..?

IBADAN

*Ibadan was responsible for Ikorodu Epe Badagry and Ikeja till 1967

Badagry covers all of Orile Festac etc

Ikeja covers Mushin Isolo

So the capital alone was federal until 1967

Epe and Ikorodu are Ijebu land

Badadry is Awori and Egun and
Ikeja is a mixture of settlers from Nupe. e.g Oshodi Egba e.g Abule Egba etc

So don't put dirty mouth in Lagos State matter if you don't know the history

Shut up there
Lagos is no man’s land

We desperately need manufacturing jobs in Nigeria. You people are bored ASF
The threads tell a story

Tigernut101:
Shut up there
Lagos is no man’s land

Your mother will shut up permanently in 7 days

Ikinternational:
We desperately need manufacturing jobs in Nigeria. You people are bored ASF
The threads tell a story

Oga caryy that your oversabi enter ochanja round about and start stepping on empty pure water sachets if you don't have anything meaningful to say, you hear? Stop pokenosing on issues way above your grasp.

I come from a part of Imo state that was divided into two by Obasanjo and Mamman Nasir boundary adjustment committee of the 70s As a result, the same community was divided into two, oil rich part was dashed to Rivers state and the remaining left in Imo state. Thise parts accounts for the biggest internally generated oil derivation funds for Rivers State.

The areas with little or no oil were left with imo state. That was the case till oil started going out of fashion while gas slowly becoming the main thing. Now, we are being told of how the same community will be yanked off totally from Imo and given to Wike and Rivers state, why? Because that area has some of the biggest gas deposits in Nigeria if not Africa. That's Nigeria politics for you.

You can sit there and be forming sophisticated while trillions are stolen from your backyard. When the wells and gas fields run dey, they will drop you in abject poverty and move on. These guys making these arguments here know what they're doing in Abuja, but some of you Igbos are just sooo utterly naive that you will prefer to slave to death in your shops than fight and get a chunk of what belongs to you, which can totally change your lives forever.

aribisala0:
Your mother will shut up permanently in 7 days

Behave yourself

Op rest Igbo is not asking anyone to be part of Igbo.
Na ipob get time for such nonsense.

The rest of Us are too busy selling our market and doing our business to have time for such nonsense talks.

Omoslim26:
Op rest Igbo is not asking anyone to be part of Igbo.
Na ipob get time for such nonsense.

The rest of Us are too busy selling our market and doing our business to have time for such nonsense talks.

It is not a nonsense talk.
Every part of Igbo land must be brought back into the fold.

Nobody is begging anybody for anything but some military Generals should not dictate the Igbo boundaries.

That said, why are the Yorubas trying to "accommodate" the Eguns in Badagry?
Are they now "accommodating by force "!

owobokiri:
Since the end of the war in 1970, there have been ceaseless and desperate attempts by federal Nigeria and the main beneficiaries of the unfortunate outcome of the war who reside in the South West and the north, to balkanize the former Eastern Nigeria. This has been done through all sorts of measures, including nebulous state creations and tricky boundary adjustments, that have carved out many Igbo communities at the peripheries, and handed them over as minorities to surrounding non Igbo speaking states.

These acts have led to a lot of marginalisations, segregations and taunts directed towards these set of Igbos. It has also led to a situation where the five South Eastern states have been neglected and deprived of deu royalties, allocations, appointments and all what not from the federal government. For instance in every project for development or sharing of resources in Nigeria, the South East states ALWAYS come last. ALL THE TIME! SINCE 1966!!!

Recently, An attempt by the Igbos in Delta state to have a new state created for them and to join their kiths and kins in the South East, instigated a firestorm as many people especially from the ruling South West section of the APC, insisted that there are no indigenous Igbos in the Niger Delta. Even when these interlopers were reminded of the language and other cultural similarities between the Igbo speaking parts of the Niger Delta and the Igbos in the South East, they stuck to their guns.

My questions here are; since this view is popular in the South West, can we stretch the diabolical logic behind it by saying that the Aworis and Eguns are not Yorubas, especially now that these groups are desperately angling for a breathing space in Lagos their homeland? Since most interior Yorubas can't even understand whatever the Aworis speak, while most Igbos can easily understand the Ika dialect, can we insist that Lagos is not a Yoruba state but an Aworis and Eguns state, the same way some South westerners want us to believe that Ikwerres and Ikas are not Igbos but "Niger Deltans"?

I'm confused..

Take your matter to the Ikweres who have rejected you since 1530AD.

Instead of trying to reconcile and settle with your estranged Ikwere cousins , you carry your madness enter Yoruba land.


Tell me why anybody won't rightly reject you ?

owobokiri:
It is not a nonsense talk.
Every part of Igbo land must be brought back into the fold.

Nobody is begging anybody for anything but some military Generals should not dictate the Igbo boundaries.

That said, why are the Yorubas trying to "accommodate" the Eguns in Badagry?
Are they now "accommodating by force "!

It's a very big nonsense useless talk.

Nwokem aside your ipob niggas, Nwafors don't have time to engage in this senseless boring talks you engage those Apc senseless tribalist in. So me now wey get market wey I need to sell go come dey worry my busy head over mumu talks like dis.

Omoslim26:
It's a very big nonsense useless talk.

Nwokem aside your ipob niggas, Nwafors don't have time to engage in this senseless boring talks you engage those Apc senseless tribalist in.

Complacency, that's how some parts of Igbo land became Muslim areas today with all the attendant future problems for Igbo cultural progress going forward.

What do you know? They are building a pipeline to sell gas from Abia and Imo states , but will pay more derivation funds to northern states.

Dey there dey look for peace to sell "ngwa ahia".., when your fellow country men have turned you into the real ngwa ahia

Zionmdde:
Ikwerres are who they say are
Every ethnic group deserves to stay on their own without being affiliated with another ethnic group

OP you and your likes should rest. Igbo or not, how does that put food on your table?
You guys keep constituting nuisance with these useless argument that only bring insults to Igbos

Rest!!!!! Ikwerres Said that are ikwerres and not Igbos so Rest!!!!

Before the civil war when Igbos were in charge of Nigeria and Ikwerres could benefit from identity of being Igbos, ikwerre people in their entirety vehemently denied that they are Igbos. During and after the war ikwerre people said they are not Igbos.
Ikwerre denials of being Igbo led to the extermination and pogrom attempt of the ikwerres by the Igbos during the war.
In 1963 ikwerre people formed Ogbakor Ikwerre and Igbos formed Ohaneze in 1966.

Yujin:
Aworis are debatably Yorubas but the Egun who call themselves Ogu people are not Yorubas. They are closer to the Fon speakers of Benin republic than Yorubas. Their language isn't even Yoruboid but the intonation is similar to Yoruba intonation. The king of Badagry, an Ogu man bears the title 'Akran' and not 'Oba'. The Ogu history is well documented. They can be found in South Eastern Benin republic, Lagos and Ogun states. A good number of the Ogu people in Nigeria are bilingual in Ogu and Yoruba but they're not Yoruba or a yoruboid group.
One key thing to identifying a Yoruboid group is the absence of the alphabet 'z' in their language or dialect.

Comparing the Ika and Ikwerre situation towards the SE Igbos as similar to the Egun/Yoruba connection is totally wrong. The others are pure dialects of Igbo while Egun isn't a dialect of Yoruba.

Egun is not a dialect of Yoruba keeh? Even Egun people go dey laugh you..

Egun people are pure Yoruba, don’t dull..

Ikwerres deny being Igbo

I am Awori and no Awori has denied being Yoruba

Show me one Egun or Awori that has come out to deny being Yoruba but there are hundreds of Ikwerres that have consistently denied being Igbo

The onus is on the ethnic group in question to accept being what you describe them as

owobokiri:
Oga caryy that your oversabi enter ochanja round about and start stepping on empty pure water sachets if you don't have anything meaningful to say, you hear? Stop pokenosing on issues way above your grasp.

I come from a part of Imo state that was divided into two by Obasanjo and Mamman Nasir boundary adjustment committee of the 70s As a result, the same community was divided into two, oil rich part was dashed to Rivers state and the remaining left in Imo state. Thise parts accounts for the biggest internally generated oil derivation funds for Rivers State.

The areas with little or no oil were left with imo state. That was the case till oil started going out of fashion while gas slowly becoming the main thing. Now, we are being told of how the same community will be yanked off totally from Imo and given to Wike and Rivers state, why? Because that area has some of the biggest gas deposits in Nigeria if not Africa. That's Nigeria politics for you.

You can sit there and be forming sophisticated while trillions are stolen from your backyard. When the wells and gas fields run dey, they will drop you in abject poverty and move on. These guys making these arguments here know what they're doing in Abuja, but some of you Igbos are just sooo utterly naive that you will prefer to slave to death in your shops than fight and get a chunk of what belongs to you, which can totally change your lives forever.

I have a naira account that has never seen a withdrawal in 20yrs. The balance will shock you .

Please always make sure you advise those that need it. Ikenna from onitsha is more than straight okay

When you was fetching water I was being driven to school. We're not the same

owobokiri:
Since the end of the war in 1970, there have been ceaseless and desperate attempts by federal Nigeria and the main beneficiaries of the unfortunate outcome of the war who reside in the South West and the north, to balkanize the former Eastern Nigeria. This has been done through all sorts of measures, including nebulous state creations and tricky boundary adjustments, that have carved out many Igbo communities at the peripheries, and handed them over as minorities to surrounding non Igbo speaking states.

These acts have led to a lot of marginalisations, segregations and taunts directed towards these set of Igbos. It has also led to a situation where the five South Eastern states have been neglected and deprived of deu royalties, allocations, appointments and all what not from the federal government. For instance in every project for development or sharing of resources in Nigeria, the South East states ALWAYS come last. ALL THE TIME! SINCE 1966!!!

Recently, An attempt by the Igbos in Delta state to have a new state created for them and to join their kiths and kins in the South East, instigated a firestorm as many people especially from the ruling South West section of the APC, insisted that there are no indigenous Igbos in the Niger Delta. Even when these interlopers were reminded of the language and other cultural similarities between the Igbo speaking parts of the Niger Delta and the Igbos in the South East, they stuck to their guns.

My questions here are; since this view is popular in the South West, can we stretch the diabolical logic behind it by saying that the Aworis and Eguns are not Yorubas, especially now that these groups are desperately angling for a breathing space in Lagos their homeland? Since most interior Yorubas can't even understand whatever the Aworis speak, while most Igbos can easily understand the Ika dialect, can we insist that Lagos is not a Yoruba state but an Aworis and Eguns state, the same way some South westerners want us to believe that Ikwerres and Ikas are not Igbos but "Niger Deltans"?

I'm confused..

Allow the Awori and Egun people to speak for themselves. You do not need to speak for them.

It is about people's identity.

Ikinternational:
I have a naira account that has never seen a withdrawal in 20yrs. The balance will shock you .

Please always make sure you advise those that need it. Ikenna from onitsha is more than straight okay

When you was fetching water I was being driven to school. We're not the same

What's this poor rat talking about?
You have an account that has never been touched, and so what?

I have been a landlord in a prime area at that your Onitsha since 2007,.
Oya, do the maths.
Mgbu!

biaframaster200:
Allow the Awori and Egun people to speak for themselves. You do not need to speak for them.

It is about people's identity.

Our benevolent accommodators are accommodating the Eguns and co forcefully.
That is wrong. They're the real owners of Lagos.

yoruboid:
Ikwerres deny being Igbo

I am Awori and no Awori has denied being Yoruba

Show me one Egun or Awori that has come out to deny being Yoruba but there are hundreds of Ikwerres that have consistently denied being Igbo

The onus is on the ethnic group in question to accept being what you describe them as

I am Egun...we migrated from Oyo...that makes us Yoruba. Our language is a mixture of Fon and Yoruba due to long years of deep association and acculturation with both tribes.

So yes Ogus are bilingual we speak both Yoruba and Fon...but we definitely emigrated from Oyo.

Tigernut101:
Shut up there
Lagos is no man’s land

it will definitely b to an Igbo cos he has use his lack of sense to destroy his own land so everyone land must b no man's land

owobokiri:
Our benevolent accommodators are accommodating the Eguns and co forcefully.
That is wrong. They're the real owners of Lagos.

How does that help in Ikwere rejecting you ?

owobokiri:
It is not a nonsense talk.
Every part of Igbo land must be brought back into the fold.

Nobody is begging anybody for anything but some military Generals should not dictate the Igbo boundaries.

That said, why are the Yorubas trying to "accommodate" the Eguns in Badagry?
Are they now "accommodating by force "!

is badagry part of Nigeria?

aribisala0:
Define Lagos
You are a fool
Lagos state was created in 1967

It had 5 divisions
Lagos
Ikorodu
Ikeja
Epe
Badagry
Prior to 1967 the Lagos division stood alone as federal capital
The other 4 divisions were part of the Western Region governed from Ibadan
REPEAT IBADAN

AGAIN..?

IBADAN

*Ibadan was responsible for Ikorodu Epe Badagry and Ikeja till 1967

Badagry covers all of Orile Festac etc

Ikeja covers Mushin Isolo

So the capital alone was federal until 1967

Epe and Ikorodu are Ijebu land

Badadry is Awori and Egun and
Ikeja is a mixture of settlers from Nupe. e.g Oshodi Egba e.g Abule Egba etc

So don't put dirty mouth in Lagos State matter if you don't know the history

Same way Enugu was responsible for Portharcourt,Calabar,Uyo and Yenegoa etc...

owobokiri:
Our benevolent accommodators are accommodating the Eguns and co forcefully.
That is wrong. They're the real owners of Lagos.

because u Igbos are openly rejected u use the pain on d yorubas

Ikwere has denied been Igbos a million times, ask yourself has egun or awori ever denied been yorubas?

U Igbos just keep embarrassing yourself

owobokiri:
What's this poor rat talking about?
You have an account that has never been touched, and so what?

I have been a landlord in a prime area at that your Onitsha since 2007,.
Oya, do the maths.
Mgbu!

guy u are a liar

Someone who has made reasonable amount of money over time won't b displaying madness in a forum like this

I can bet u are still hustling