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| Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by Bigkoko(op): 4:25am On Nov 25, 2024*. Modified: 6:08am On Nov 25, 2024 |
Reuben Abati started all these. He's from a part of Nigeria which has no Ummuna or Customary laws guiding lands use, sale & transfer. They may have but chose not to follow it, instead opting to follow the dictates of their stomach. That should be their own problem,not mine. The Igbos have over many generations enacted and passed on a special purpose land Act law that's bidding on each family member so born to that family. As a member of that family, all the norms and laws are bidding on you to uphold, regardless whether it favors you personally or not. All Igbos understand this. That said, as an Igbo you are born into an Umunna or family of your father and ummune, family of your mother. They will tell you the laws guiding both family as occasion warrants. On this piece I will focus on ummuna land Act , which people from SW like Reuben Abati don't seem to understand. Now, Igbos are not Yorubas, neither are Yorubas Igbos. We're far way different than you can ever imagined. Given the behavior of the Fulanis, I'd place a Fair bet that the Igbos are more likely fula than yoru! Personally, I'd prefer to be a Fula, than a Yoru! Don't see this from the negative side. How the Igbos regulate land use, sale abd transfer within their communities: 1. Your ummuna customs is vital. 2. All lands are owned by the kindred, Umunna. 3. They don't share the land merely because one member of the family wants them to. If the reason is because you want to build, then you can pick a parcel from available options and do your thing. 4. Lands are only allocated to males, not females. You as a female will, must be married to another family, and your children will inherit lands there. That's Igbos fight hard to have male children. 4. The family compound belongs to the eldest. Juniors are given lands outside to build their own too. Hence making the family lineage to grow and expand. This creates a quasi independent family structure. 5. Lands you inherit should not be sold. You can sell lands you bought from other people with your own sweat, rather than what the forefathers gave you. 6. Becuase most lands are co-owned, only a unanimous decision by the Ummuna can give you right to sell an ancestral land. Now, you will spend lots of years seeking out your umunna, because some are abroad, some in Ameriaca, some in Europe, some are in other areas. hey all need to come together, hear why you want to sell the land, instead of working like any reasonable human. If your situation is bad, they will offer to donate money to help you rather than sharing the land and you selling your stake. That is what i call Democracy on the grassroot. [color=#000000]Personal experience.[/color] What I noticed when I started building "my own" house in the village, 8 years ago. 1. The family compound, or what we call "Ihu ezi" belong to the eldest....my late uncle son inherited everything..... Everything damn thing. That's the law, and there's no going around it. Before then, a family tradition was broken to allow my own dad (the last born in the family), been the first millionaire in the family, to build a palatial house in the Ihu ezi. This was meant to make my family compound more modern and appealing. Yes, it was one of the best within the area. I actually wanted to renovate parts of his (my dad's own) house in the Ihu ezi, when my ummuna told me this. That what ever I do, build or renovate in the Ihu ezi technically belong to my older cousin, whose dad is eldest in my dad family. My dad was late, so didn't share this information before joining his ancestors. I was advice to ask the ummuna to show me lands owned by the family, and I can take from there and build what ever I want to build, and when it's time to share the family lands, that could substitute as mine. I got a huge parcel of land for free, from available options. Because I love Rivers, I chose one on the bank of a flowing river. You get my drift right? Problem solved. I was ok, but wowed. Even if I insist on owning my father's house in the family compound, and you take it to the Customary court system, that family law is what is relied upon, not your Abuja constitution.... Too bad, all these Ronu miscreants don't understand why we have Customary Court & laws in Nigeria. That's why I think from A-Z, they have low IQs. Can I sell land from where I took it from? No. You will have the Umunna & family deity fighting you for greed. If you want money, go work your ass off. Not selling what your forefathers didn't sell. If they sold it, will you inherit it? Can I sell the land I took because I want to build on it? No..... that's call Alu. Use the land for it's intended purpose. Yorubas have no family culture. They do whatever they like, selling off parcels of land co-owned with other family members.... using charms to kee each other... vroom money don finish for owambe, then they will start ronuing!!!. But the Igbo Ummuna & the customs that guides it is more revered than the Nigerian constitution. Joke with it and have your self to blame. 2. No matter where your land is located in the village, even if its a dense forest, those whose land lay on the route must give you pieces of land FREE to make a road that will lead to your own land when ever you start building. That is the law. On the route to the parcel of land i chosed by the river, lay the land of the richest man in my village. I was told he comes to the village every sunday with his convoy, and i can meet him, and tell him i will cut a bit from his land to create way for tippers bringing sands and stones for my building project. As i informed him, he told me to give him time to consult with his Umunna. That was all. Once i created that road, he can no longer lay claims to the road or the land with which i formed the road. It becomes public road. That is Igbo for you! Gbagbos. You see those things from SW will sell anything that looks like land, and even use juju to kee anyone remotely connected to it..... So as to keep the money to themselves, and squander it all on owambe. They want everyone to be like them ... Sorry, we don't want to be like Yorubas. In all honesty, I'd prefer to be a Fulani than a Yoruba. They don't understand integrity, family honor and brother's opinion on land matters. You can do whatever you like with your land, a land you bought with your money and sweat. Nobody's business. But you can't sell a land you got from Umunna. It's an ancestral land. You use and pass t to the next generation. You're technically not allowed to pass it to outsiders. It can only be shared to males alone, not females. When the white men first came to Igbo land and a decision was made to give them land to build their shrine, church, it was part of the Evil forest they gave him. Where corpses of evil people are thrown away.... It's not hate, it's the law. Igbos are known to give land, but it's not yours. For instance if an organization like Catholic church come ask for land to build a church, they will give it to them, because they will quickly fund out that no one man control catholic church, but if Chosen or Redeem or Winners chapel make same request they will ask them to look for a willing seller and buy from them! That's the Igbo people & land laws for you! If your own law allows lazy free loaders to sell all their ancestral land.. Tor na una sabi, those with money will come buy it from you. Read & buy my piece on Amazon: The Igbo Ummuna & it's usefulness! Ummune; Know yours! Why the Igbos prospers without beating an eye! |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by ElSudani: 4:58am On Nov 25, 2024 |
Very backward practices. Only males can inherit land bla bla bla. Why is Abati being attacked if what he said is the truth? Write up garnished with lies about land ownership in Yorubaland. If you like change your ethnicity to bororo Fulani that is your problem, I doubt if there's a single Yoruba who will even bother to ask you why? |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by AntiZikist: 5:00am On Nov 25, 2024 |
Ok. When Yorubas start this your umama rubbish and collect every square inch of land back , do not complain |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by eagleu: 5:03am On Nov 25, 2024 |
ElSudani:Arrogant, illiterate, and self-righteous people look down on other people's customs without even understanding it. It's the first sign poor education. |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by Strictlygreen: 5:05am On Nov 25, 2024 |
You don't know more than your elders who have just admitted that Abati was not wrong. A'ro' ye o k'agbon. |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by ElSudani: 5:08am On Nov 25, 2024*. Modified: 5:28am On Nov 25, 2024 |
eagleu:Isn't that what the writer of this garbage did with his reference to Yoruba? How they sell their land and spend it on owambe and all that crap? I don't care if only short people are allowed to inherit land or not in Iboland but when Abati said outsiders are discriminated against which is the truth why all the vitriol against him? Very backward misogynistic and clannish practices. |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by Strictlygreen: 5:09am On Nov 25, 2024 |
I thought Igbos said they are Jews from Israel? I didn't know they are indeed Fulani slaves with identity crisis ![]() |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by Ahmed0336(m): 5:10am On Nov 25, 2024 |
Abati wasn't wrong. I don't know why you people are making it look like abati was lying. |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by Bigkoko(op): 5:14am On Nov 25, 2024 |
REgarding your question! Reuben is clever by half...we know his plans of trying to land a job with asiwaju govt. And the only way to have Asiwaju attention is talk down on Igbos or PO. It gives Asiwaju a false sense of loyalty! Read well Kunle, abi hunger don blind you? Hoew can i write abot land ownership in Yoruba land, when i am not a yoruba, neither did i have land in yorubaland? Abi you dey read upside down? I wrote about land matters in Iboland, where i am from, own lands and a building of my own? I only advised those who sells land due to the dicttates of their stomach! Do you guys sell land due to rumblings in your stomach? ![]() ElSudani: |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by stonemasonn: 5:17am On Nov 25, 2024 |
Your attitude toward land is shaped by its scarcity. Land is not abundant in the South East. |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by Zionmdde: 5:18am On Nov 25, 2024 |
Ahmed0336:I have a question for you Do you want to buy land in the SE? If yes I can link you with someone If no then fvck off, |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by ElSudani: 5:19am On Nov 25, 2024 |
Bigkoko:Right, he shouldn't be able to write about Iboland because Iboland is in far away South East Asia. Abati is an elupee man, he is far more likely to support your cause. By the way, Tinubu has nothing against Ibo people except paranoia is taking hold of your mind. |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by Bigkoko(op): 5:19am On Nov 25, 2024 |
If you comment like a human, i wont treat you like a pig, and reply you. However, if you resort to unitelligient comments, i will return the reply embargo i placed on you! Like i earlier told you, being an AntiZikist is a welcmed development. Now, to your comment. How can you write on what you dont know, what you have no personal experience of? Well, you can write what ever lies you feel like. We dont complain in fair play...we only push back, and sometimes with more energy than thought. AntiZikist: |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by Zionmdde: 5:21am On Nov 25, 2024 |
AntiZikist:You know one thing about lazy poverty stricken idiots is that they always dream of illegally inheriting the sweat of others. Did your mother or father dash any igbo man land? Which land do they want to collect? The one someone paid in full with his money? Don't worry keep having stupid dreams, don't go and hustle and buy the land back. |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by Bigkoko(op): 5:22am On Nov 25, 2024 |
He cant...... he is not worth the naira or dollar amount needed to buy a land from a sole owner willing to sell in Igbo land! Even to marry wife sef...na money, because due to the strong policy of Ndi ogoor, you might actually get some goodies if your inlaws are rich. Zionmdde: |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by Zionmdde: 5:24am On Nov 25, 2024 |
Bigkoko:Let the idiot answer the question. They talk as if they have any kobo to buy a land. If the agent refuse to sell land to them I will give the person 1M. I can even sell one land cheaper to the person Lazy stupid things |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by Bigkoko(op): 5:25am On Nov 25, 2024 |
Even Fulani sef want free ruga land...for their private cattle business! No be their falt! They get free allocations from Oil & gas, they sef want free land join!Land wey no reach us sef. people wey they say na Dot nation, small... na there they want free land. Wentin happen to kano is bigger than SE? Make una go collect free land there biko.... ![]() Zionmdde: |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by Bigkoko(op): 5:25am On Nov 25, 2024 |
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| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by aariwa(m): 5:26am On Nov 25, 2024 |
Only pooor men who can’t afford land in Igbo land talk these nonsense. A lot of realtors had come out on twitter offering those paupers lands with C of O for even 50% off in choice locations in igboland but they ran away because they can’t afford it |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by Bigkoko(op): 5:32am On Nov 25, 2024 |
No...dont get me wrong. Abati can write whatever he feels like. His piece will get responses as usual. I will rather ask why you guys want him to write, but dont want us to reply him. My piece on Ummuna should eduacte him a bit... There is life outside Asiwaju govt. Like Gej, Like Buhari, even Asiwaju own go pass, imagine the next 8 years of Igbo govt, how can Abati want a role...with his lies. I dont write about lands in yoruba because i have no reason, business or anything to do there. I only heard they like selling lands... and even i think its absurd for any Ola, Kunle or fummi to wake up and start selling ancestral lands! Personally i wont. but if i buy a land with my hard earn sweat in regions i live in, than what ever i do with it is my choice, not the one handed over by a long line of ancestors... Una get culture sef? ![]() ElSudani: |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by Bigkoko(op): 5:34am On Nov 25, 2024 |
I saw it on X, and was about to advice my yooruba assistant to buy one once he gets his quarterly bonus...but i say make i mind my business. Imagine, even hellinus too, join dey talk say Igbos no dey sell land. I don see how lands them don buy for Ikwereland wey dey sell land ![]() aariwa: |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by ElSudani: 5:40am On Nov 25, 2024 |
Bigkoko:Imagine someone who just told the whole world that females cannot inherit land, who just told me his cousin is technically the owner of his own father's house asking if the great Yoruba of the world has culture! How could your cousin be the owner of your father's house? Where is that done in the world except in Iboland? |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by Bigkoko(op): 5:41am On Nov 25, 2024 |
Go and ask what is called Umunna.....you will be unndersatnd my piece here. There is no scarcity. There are lots of land lying fallow. In my family alone...we have tons of it. Is everyone in my family rich? No. One of my cousin in S.Korea doing parts business is currently looking for tens of millions to top up his import business due to de-valuation of the naira by Asiwaju. can he just go pick land and sell because we have lots of it? hell no! He will & must figure out how raise the money.... Can he ask the Umunna to allow him sell to top up his business? hell no! It 's a disgraceful and greedy thing to ask. Is he the nly one who needs money to top p their business? Me sef, i dey find $300,000 to solidify my European business operations fro the next five years! We are different. Understand this and have peace! stonemasonn: |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by Bigkoko(op): 5:48am On Nov 25, 2024 |
I dont give a hoot whether you guys give females land or not. If you guys do, that's your problem not mine! Yes, thats the customary law, nothing to e ashamed. Neither should any reasonable person lie about it because of miscreants on a facelss forum. We are Igbos, we are known to be truth speakers, any day, any time. We are not subtle, cunning or treacherous. The fact remains, any land a stranger, whether Igbo or not bought in Igboland is a personal land already shared by the Umunnas to private individuals who chose to sellit to you. But then, do you have the money to buy? No be una introduced the new lexicon EBI PA WAOOO? Maybe the person Abati quoted want to use style collect the lands supposedly given to the the wife...my dear, where i come from we dont. The wife will be assisted to receive lands for her children where ever they married to in Igboland. That is the Ummuna law, upheld by Nigeria customary law statues. We are not lawless just because we feel we own it. So long the law is clear and apllied to all, we accept it. That is why, the Igbos will rather accept the Fula customary law, than a Yoru customary law, and you know it. WE are different from you guys, understand tis and have peace! ElSudani: |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by Brenbentondiaz: 5:48am On Nov 25, 2024 |
Lolz. I thought your fellow bonobos were saying "we sell lands, but nobody from other regions have the money to buy it as only our people from the yeast have money". You halfbred gibbons are so confused and dense. No wonder one small boy in Finland is controlling your fathers and putting them in bondage every Monday. Very backward people. |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by Brenbentondiaz: 5:50am On Nov 25, 2024 |
eagleu:Lolz. Very rich coming from someone whose tribe is known for their false sense of importance. You bums absolutely lack a sense of self awareness. |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by Brenbentondiaz: 5:55am On Nov 25, 2024 |
aariwa:Or they ran away because no sensible person wants unproductive land in an unproductive region filled with halfbred, uncultured chimps? Or you mean Dangote is too poor to buy land in your yeast? |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by ElSudani: 5:55am On Nov 25, 2024 |
Bigkoko:And in your great wisdom the lands sold in Yorubaland are not shared family lands? They just take you to any vacant land and sell it to you? Where is your self proclaimed honesty when you cannot accept the fact that outsiders are discriminated against? Your elders in ohanaeze just corroborated what Abati said. |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by aariwa(m): 5:56am On Nov 25, 2024 |
Bigkoko:They like deceiving themselves and living in fools paradise. Imagine Most of them came to Fegge Onitsha in the 70s after the war with their tailoring business when the price of land in fegge was not even up to 1k but they didn’t buy a single land . They will pack themselves and be living twenty people in a room . Today property in fegge Onitsha is from 50m up . Those Yorubas have become grandfathers looking for cheap 1 room to do tailoring with their families while young igbo boys of the 70s that left their parents in the village from devastation of the war are now owners of many 5 storey buildings in fegge. Tomorrow they will turn around and blame igbos for not selling land instead of blaming their own laziness and lack of ambition to be successful in life |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by helinues: 5:58am On Nov 25, 2024 |
Why should I buy land in SE with ridiculous price when I can get same land at fair more price in other regions. Who will invest in a place where Monday, working day is resting day because of some illiterate kids |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by gidgiddy: 6:02am On Nov 25, 2024 |
Nobody is obligated to sell anyone land. If someone does not want to sell you land because they don't like your face, it's their choice, it's their right, it's their property. The only issue I have are those who after willingly selling land, later come back to still claim the land still belongs to them Selling of land should never be an issue |
| Re: Igbos, Land Matters: Why You Can't Just Buy Land In Igboland by Bigkoko(op): 6:03am On Nov 25, 2024 |
This is why i think you guys have very low IQ. No offense please. THis is the fact you fail to understand: 1. All land in Igbo alnd are owned by Ummuna who share it to individuals as need arises. 2. Igbos sell land, only those already shared. 3. If you buy or want to buy a land that belongs to Umunna, it isthe owner of the neigboring land that will tell you to tell the seller to tell his Ummunna to officially hand it over to him This is unlikely. 4. Perverture, the Umunna have shared the land oto individuals, its your responsible to find privately owned lands and buy, not the village doing this for you. 5. For your own interest, it is best to undewrstand the customs around land use, sale & transfer of owner in Igboland, which you lots clearly dont want to do. 6. privately owned lands are far too expensive to buy, because of the value that goes with it. Once, bought, no body like you miscreants do online, will watch up one day to cream go back to your ronu land. BUt, Kunle tell me why you think selling ancestral land will make your lazy ass rich? Ditch those prayers packaged by aunt Remi in Bourdilion and Aso Rock. go and work the farms and afctories...its easier to be rich via that route than selling ancestral lands. Personally, i find it really absurd that oone werey will wake up and sell ancestral lands without leaving any behind for offsprins...una normal so? Brenbentondiaz: |
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