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Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by Botragelad(op): 12:01am On Nov 28, 2024
Labour MP Tahir Ali has today advocated for blasphemy laws during Prime Minister’s Questions.

The MP for Birmingham Hall Green and Moseley asked Keir Starmer if he would “commit to introducing measures to prohibit the desecration of all religious texts and the prophets of the Abrahamic religions”.

Speaking in the Commons, Ali added that “November marks Islamophobia awareness month,” and that “last year the United Nations Human Rights Council adopted a resolution condemning the desecration of religious texts, including the Quran, despite opposition from the previous government.”

The Prime Minister replied that the Government is “committed to tackling all forms of hatred and division”, including Islamophobia and antisemitism. Ali said that “mindless desecration only serves to fuel division and hatred,” with the Prime Minister adding: “desecration is awful.” A video of Ali’s question has gone viral on X, receiving much criticism.

There has been concern around the re-establishment of blasphemy laws in the UK in recent years. In 2021, a teacher at Batley Grammar School was forced into hiding and received death threats after showing an illustration of the prophet Muhammad in class. Earlier this year, Kim Leadbeater, Labour MP for Batley and Spen, said a report into the incident “makes for deeply disturbing reading”. The independent review, led by Government adviser Sara Khan, described the teacher’s forced exile as a “harrowing example” of “freedom-restricting harassment”.

Another incident in nearby Wakefield last year raised similar worries about the imposition of blasphemy laws, particularly from the Muslim community. In February 2023, four pupils were suspended from a secondary school after a copy of the Quran was damaged. The book remained intact and the head teacher said there was “no malicious intent” from those involved. However, there was much outrage from Muslim parents and a meeting was held with the headteacher and Islamic community leaders.

The debate around Islamophobia and what to do about it has emerged again in the wake of the Southport stabbing attack in July.

The new Labour government blamed the unrest on online misinformation which alleged that the attacker had an Islamic name and was an immigrant. It was later disclosed that his name was Axel Rudakubana, although it was not until three months after the attack that the public were informed that he was in possession of an al-Qaeda manual. Mosques were often the targets of protests and unrest after the stabbings.

In response to Ali’s comments today, the National Secular Society said it is “deeply alarming that an MP is calling for the introduction of new blasphemy laws”. The organisation added: “[/b]Concerningly, the Prime Minister offers no defence of free expression. MPs should uphold values which are foundational to our society — not seek to dismantle them.”


I’m coming round to the view that any cause that has an “awareness month” is probably a grift.
[b]I’m also wondering what the word for “hatred” of Christianity is. I can’t ever remembering hearing one.

Quite how carving out special protections for selected religions (what’s so special about the Abrahamic religions ?) is compatible with all the equalities and human rights legislation on the statute books appears to have been overlooked by this genius of an MP.

Scrap all this nonsense and just treat everyone equally. No special treatment for any pressure group. Think how much we’d save on lawyers. We could get by with a lot fewer MPs if we did that too.



Tahir Ali does not understand British values or their historical development, and his party should endeavour to educate him in them. Perhaps he holds certain cultural values above British ones, in which case perhaps he should reconsider his residency here.

If God isn’t resilient enough to ignore blasphemy from unbelievers then he’s not very strong. My God doesn’t approve or like it, but he doesn’t need man-made laws to protect him.

I’m an atheist, but your position is absolutely correct; intellectually, morally and spiritually.
Any so-called ‘god’ that can’t bear to be criticised wouldn’t be worthy of worship, just as any believer in a god/prophet who can’t bear criticism is a poor example of their faith.
Ali’s request comes from a position of weakness, not strength. We should always bear that in mind.


But the representatives of God (various) have often got very thin skins – because if their God is disrespected then they lose authority.
Exactly what Peter Hitchens warned about. How dare such a demand be made in the British Parliament.

It is time more was written about the heinous blasphemy laws that are routinely abused in Pakistan as a means to persecute religious minorities such as Christians. I’m sick and tired of the cover up that goes on across our media. We have a sizeable and growing population with roots in that country – many occupy positions of great power ( extraordinary isn’t it, given the strident claims made by some of the most successful British Muslims of the rampant islamophobia and racism that stalks this country) Tahir Ali’s parents were from that country and it appears he is intent on bringing that horrific law- that has seen politicians in Pakistan who dared to demand a change or for it to be rescinded assassinated – to further harass the people of this country with.

The world of science and democracy is a de-sacralised world. Is this a mistake that the elected representatives should correct?
It is obviously necessary to hear a debate in the HoC attempting to define how the Popol Vuh or the Papyrus of Hunefer can be desecrated.
If a book which was a ‘religious text’ was remaindered by a bookseller, would that be an act of desecration? Does Butler’s Lives of the Saints count as a religious text?
A document, a shrine, or a grave can be desecrated, but a person can only be disrespected or criticised. Is anyone’s sensibilities likely to be inflamed if the prophet Joel were to be criticised? If anyone in print or in speech does not refer to Jesus of Nazareth as ‘The Lord’ Jesus, is that ‘desecration’?

What penalty should there be for screening the infamous Life of Brian? Would the police have to search for cinematic versions of the speakeasy? “No, officer, the film’s in the can, we aren’t ‘taking it in’.”
Would confining ‘desecrations’ to the prophets of the Abrahamic religions be considered as de-sacralising the founders of the Sikh religion who are regarded as gods?

I was once acquainted with a lady priest of the Church of England who on doing her interfaith outreach visited local places of worship. At the local mosque she was presented with a copy of the Quran. On receiving it she was told she must never place it on the floor, keep it in the ‘smallest room in the house’, and on no account hold it while menstruating.
Who can doubt that the Commons and the Lords possess the wisdom of Solomon sufficient to devise a penalty for just being a woman undergoing a natural bodily process. As well as the capacity to explain to their constituents why this offends the Most High. And the subtlety to ensure that transwomen were not excluded, to avoid adverse implications that would that have on the movement.
These are surely important matters and questions bearing on community relations that Sir Kier ought not to dodge.
Source;
https://unherd.com/newsroom/labour-mp-calls-for-blasphemy-laws/

Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by Righteousness2(m):
I laugh in Swahili....
Londonistan is in the making..
Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by Botragelad(op):
A Pakistani Muslim is trying so hard to bring his trash Islamic laws into the UK. These are the same barbaric laws that allow Muslims Lynch people of different faith and lie against them. Pakistan,his home country Is a mess from all the Islamic laws and nonsense.

Few hours ago, we found out that the lady laid a false accusation against the man who was killed for the so called "islamophobia" . That's exactly what this MP is calling for in the UK. Now if you want blasphemy laws so bad then go back to your Muslim land. People criticize and insult Christianity, Judaism,etc but you don't see them lynching the critics like Islamists permits.

The UK for one was built on strong Christian value and I don't see why this trash blasphemy is being discussed. It's within your human Right to criticize any religion, and Islam isn't special. Call it what it is. It's okay to criticize Islam. This woke islamophobia virus needs to be uprooted. We can't have people who will be too scared to call Islam out whenever we want.

Thousands if not millions have been murdered worldwide by Muslims, thousands raped in the UK by Muslims, no one is talking about that, but here we are having a conversation about blasphemy laws so you don't get to criticize Islam.

Will keep repeating it,do not fall for Islamic blackmail when you call them out. If they want to get hurt, that's their problem. You are a human,stand your ground and take this filth out of your society!
Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by olabrad: 12:47am On Nov 28, 2024
Islamophobia.is an attempt by Muslims to stop people from talking about the evil that Islam represents.
Whether Muslims like it or not, people will always talk about Islam's evils
Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by NothingDoMe: 1:06am On Nov 28, 2024
Na Sharia dem wan start for UK so.
Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by descarado: 1:18am On Nov 28, 2024
NothingDoMe:
Na Sharia dem wan start for UK so.
Not gonna happen.
You should study the English people.
Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by tutudesz: 1:45am On Nov 28, 2024
Oga you relocate to any country with such law already undecided
Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by DomPerignon: 1:52am On Nov 28, 2024
The JewK has gone full blown Orwellian since this kike got into office

He's just prepping for the mother of all censorship laws which is anti antisemitic laws.
Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by madridguy(m): 3:53am On Nov 28, 2024
Good move by Tahir Ali. With time Islam will be the only religion in the UK and Shariah law will come to pass.

Nigerians in the UK should start sending their children to Arabic class before it is too late.

The wickedness the British did during colonization will surely visit them soonest.
Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by maivd: 4:23am On Nov 28, 2024
Islamabad
Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by Elusive001: 7:51am On Nov 28, 2024
Botragelad:
A Pakistani Muslim is trying so hard to bring his trash Islamic laws into the UK. These are the same barbaric laws that allow Muslims Lynch people of different faith and lie against them. Pakistan,his home country Is a mess from all the Islamic laws and nonsense.

Few hours ago, we found out that the lady laid a false accusation against the man who was killed for the so called "islamophobia" . That's exactly what this MP is calling for in the UK. Now if you want blasphemy laws so bad then go back to your Muslim land. People criticize and insult Christianity, Judaism,etc but you don't see them lynching the critics like Islamists permits.

The UK for one was built on strong Christian value and I don't see why this trash blasphemy is being discussed. It's within your human Right to criticize any religion, and Islam isn't special. Call it what it is. It's okay to criticize Islam. This woke islamophobia virus needs to be uprooted. We can't have people who will be too scared to call Islam out whenever we want.

Thousands if not millions have been murdered worldwide by Muslims, thousands raped in the UK by Muslims, no one is talking about that, but here we are having a conversation about blasphemy laws so you don't get to criticize Islam.

Will keep repeating it,do not fall for Islamic blackmail when you call them out. If they want to get hurt, that's their problem. You are a human,stand your ground and take this filth out of your society!
Bros, the UK will get what it desires. They prefer Islam. They will get shariah with time. Secularism and Islam are of the same spirit. What will befall Europe will beat their imagination.

They will seek for freedom, but it will elude them. I laugh as they play with fire.
Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by princeade86(m): 9:05am On Nov 28, 2024
K
Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by PulaPower: 9:06am On Nov 28, 2024
He must be a content creator..

Religion is nothing but a tool for destruction..
Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by RodgersAkpafu: 9:07am On Nov 28, 2024
We have more pressing issues than "blasphemy laws"

NEXT!
Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by haybhi1(m): 9:07am On Nov 28, 2024
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Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by ClassicMan202(m): 9:07am On Nov 28, 2024
See liver o


Small time, Na sharia law them go ask for..

We are still recovering from the shocking confession of the demonic girl that lied against her teacher.

He should go to his native Pakistan where the law is in full effect and live there.
Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by hopefulLandlord: 9:07am On Nov 28, 2024
I'm of the opinion there should be absolutely no punishment for blasphemy and it shouldn't even be considered a crime let alone felony especially if the religion or god being blasphemed against is regarded to be very powerful and our creator.
Its always a sign of a god not being real when humans are always doing everything for such a god.

It's humans that would tell you there's some god

It's humans that would tell you that this particular god out of all the other gods is real/most powerful

it's humans that tell you a particular religion is the true one from such a god

It's humans that would hand you a book and say its some god that wrote/inspired it

it's that book humans gave you that would say what that God wants you to (not) do

it's the book humans gave you that'd tell you what would happen after you die even though none of those that have claimed to have died and come back to life had ever described the same afterlife in detail

it's humans that then get angry when you insult such - a most powerful entity - god

It's humans that'd apprehend you when you insult their god

it's humans that would then sentence you to death for insulting that god or that religion

finally it's human(s) that would carry out the punishment for your insulting such a god

Makes you wonder why there's this most powerful entity but it fully relies on humans to do everything even the most basic thing for him/her. it's almost as if humans are the actual gods they claim to serve


I would've been more accepting of blasphemy laws if there's observable evidence of blasphemers dying in absolutely unexplainable circumstances showing there's a possibility some god got so angry at their insults that he decided to kill them but the fact that it's humans that kill us for insulting a powerful entity shows something ain't right

If gods being insulted were real and as powerful as adherents claim then blasphemy laws wouldn't even be needed at all so I see blasphemy laws as just a way for religious people to protect their delusions by killing those who don't agree with theirs

Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by Natbrowny: 9:08am On Nov 28, 2024
By now. The world is supposed to be talking about flying cars, teleportation in real sense, excess food, cheap accommodations.

But see wetin we dey discuss for 2024.
The future don get injury b dat.

Politicians have taken over from scientists
Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by PRINCESSFCFANSs(f): 9:09am On Nov 28, 2024
ok
Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by udemzyudex(m): 9:09am On Nov 28, 2024
Little by little UK will be colonize.
Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by Emzedz: 9:11am On Nov 28, 2024
Islam the religion of piss.. very horrible n terrible people with no human feelings.
All are terrorists n terrorists sympathisers
Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by Natbrowny: 9:12am On Nov 28, 2024
haybhi1:
Wetin concern us with the UK sef. Too many news from the UK every now and then... wetin na
I taya oo. People wey no send us.
The last time it was a news about Putin missing for 7days. How e tek worry us here na.
Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by Klington: 9:12am On Nov 28, 2024
tongue
Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by Mindlog: 9:13am On Nov 28, 2024
"Any so-called ‘god’ that can’t bear to be criticised wouldn’t be worthy of worship, just as any believer in a god/prophet who can’t bear criticism is a poor example of their faith. Ali’s request comes from a position of weakness, not strength. We should always bear that in mind'....😂😂😂😂
Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by Ynix(m): 9:14am On Nov 28, 2024
madridguy:
Good move by Tahir Ali. With time Islam will be the only religion in the UK and Shariah law will come to pass.

Nigerians in the UK should start sending their children to Arabic class before it is too late.

The wickedness the British did during colonization will surely visit them soonest.
well done you really deserve 1 bottle of Urine beer for this r*shful comment
Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by Orlu13: 9:14am On Nov 28, 2024
I can't wait fr all these western woke countries to fall to Islam... so that next time they will use their brains


I can't wait fr dat to happen...I evennwished kamala Harris won so dat it will hasten the death of America
Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by OneOnland: 9:15am On Nov 28, 2024
Lol.

UK is very nice to Muslims. Coming from a Muslim MP though, Tahir Ali, Muslims say that Christians' Jesus is not the son of god, and call him prophet instead. What should be the punishment on him and his Muslims peers for such blasphemy, desecrating the very foundation of Christianity?!

This is very lol. Europe & closeness to self destruction, 5&6.
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Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by AngelicBeing: 9:16am On Nov 28, 2024
Botragelad:
A Pakistani Muslim is trying so hard to bring his trash Islamic laws into the UK. These are the same barbaric laws that allow Muslims Lynch people of different faith and lie against them. Pakistan,his home country Is a mess from all the Islamic laws and nonsense.

Few hours ago, we found out that the lady laid a false accusation against the man who was killed for the so called "islamophobia" . That's exactly what this MP is calling for in the UK. Now if you want blasphemy laws so bad then go back to your Muslim land. People criticize and insult Christianity, Judaism,etc but you don't see them lynching the critics like Islamists permits.

The UK for one was built on strong Christian value and I don't see why this trash blasphemy is being discussed. It's within your human Right to criticize any religion, and Islam isn't special. Call it what it is. It's okay to criticize Islam. This woke islamophobia virus needs to be uprooted. We can't have people who will be too scared to call Islam out whenever we want.

Thousands if not millions have been murdered worldwide by Muslims, thousands raped in the UK by Muslims, no one is talking about that, but here we are having a conversation about blasphemy laws so you don't get to criticize Islam.

Will keep repeating it,do not fall for Islamic blackmail when you call them out. If they want to get hurt, that's their problem. You are a human,stand your ground and take this filth out of your society!
Gbamsulotely, end of thread grin
Re: Labour MP Calls For Blasphemy Laws in the UK. by Righthussle:
If I become president, I'll criminalize organized religions especially the Abrahamic religions. They turn humans into zombies and terrorists.

I will burn the bible and quran on national television
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