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Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by MaxInDHouse(op): 8:15am On Nov 22, 2024
johnw47:
extremely dum lost false jw mad max
your saying that olaadegbu, emusan and myself are the same person
and saying that the Holy Spirit told you that, is indeed blasphemy of the Holy Spirit
making out the Holy Spirit is a liar:
lost blasphemer false jw mad max:
Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
Character!

You're just looking for what to say when you don't know anything, blasphemy against God's Holy Spirit means antagonizing the obvious fruit of God's Holy Spirit in the gathering of imperfect humans.
People can't see the Holy Spirit but when it's operating on imperfect humans the fruit will be obvious so anyone speaking against such fine fruits {Galatians 5:22-23} which is impossible among imperfect humans is the one blaspheming the spirit of God! Matthew 12:31-32
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 8:57am On Nov 22, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Character!
You're just looking for what to say when you don't know anything, blasphemy against God's Holy Spirit means antagonizing the obvious fruit of God's Holy Spirit in the gathering of imperfect humans.
People can't see the Holy Spirit but when it's operating on imperfect humans the fruit will be obvious so anyone speaking against such fine fruits {Galatians 5:22-23} which is impossible among imperfect humans is the one blaspheming the spirit of God! Matthew 12:31-32
truly lost false jw mad max

your making the Holy Spirit out to be a liar is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit,
your denial right up to being thrown into the lake of fire won't change that oh fearful one:

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by MaxInDHouse(op): 9:07am On Nov 22, 2024
God's organized people have achieved what Jesus promised globally! Act 1:8
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 9:31am On Nov 22, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
God's organized people have achieved what Jesus promised globally! Act 1:8
lost false jw mad max

but you false jw's haven't
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 10:26am On Nov 22, 2024
giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught




jwfacts..com

Russell preached:
the Second Coming of Jesus was 1874, and the start of the 1000 year earthly reign was 1914, as it was to end in 2914 A.D.


Rutherford preached:
"WE HAVE no doubt whatever in regard to the chronology relating to the dates of 1874, 1914, 1918, and 1925." Watchtower 1922 May 15 p.147

Over time, Rutherford replaced 1874, such that his time line was as in picture below.





russell's and rutherford's prophecys both failed, of course:
Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by MaxInDHouse(op): 7:57pm On Nov 26, 2024
Today people around the world know a group who have dedicated their lives to preaching and teaching from house to house and door to the about God's Kingdom just as Jesus foretold! Act 1:8
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by Ken4Christ: 8:55pm On Nov 26, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
There are many religions and in fact religion is as old as mankind on planet earth but with all the nations in ancient times being in one religion/form of worship or another everyone is saying "God is one"
Are you of the opinion that religions are like different roads leading to the same destination or there is a particular religion that God approves?
What should we expect from the religion that's approved by God?

I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses!
You are still defending this evil cult group known as Jehovah Witness full of lies. You don't love your life. Only those who are perishing listen to you
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by MaxInDHouse(op): 11:45pm On Nov 26, 2024
Ken4Christ:
You are still defending this evil cult group known as Jehovah Witness full of lies. You don't love your life. Only those who are perishing listen to you
Pastor Piri come on answer the damn question or keep quiet! smiley
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by Ken4Christ: 7:00am On Nov 27, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Pastor Piri come on answer the damn question or keep quiet! smiley
I don't practice religion. True Christianity is not a religion but a revelation of the righteousness of God. It's a living relationship with the living God.
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by MaxInDHouse(op): 8:20am On Nov 27, 2024
Ken4Christ:
I don't practice religion. True Christianity is not a religion but a revelation of the righteousness of God. It's a living relationship with the living God.
Jesus practiced RELIGION he assembled with his fellow worshipers.
His disciples practiced RELIGION they gathered with their fellow believers.
That's why the inhabitants of Antioch could recognize them as followers of the Jewish young man who claimed he is the Christ. Act 11:26

Abeg stop lying! smiley
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 10:59am On Nov 27, 2024
giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught

jwfacts..com

Other significant dates the Watchtower no longer refer to are;

1799 A.D. - The beginning of the Last Days.

539 A.D. - Thought to be the start of Catholic Papal rule and the start point of many prophetic interpretations.

Of these above dates only 1914 is still considered significant, and even then, mostly for different reasons than originally prescribed. Though part of Watchtower lore for 60 years, most current Jehovah's Witnesses are unaware of their significance and that each one failed to eventuate as predicted.

Each time the Watchtower has predicted an occurrence, it has not eventuated as foretold, a 100% failure rate. Does this inspire confidence in Watchtower interpretation? Jehovah's Witnesses promoted these falsehoods in the past, and continue to zealously advocate current doctrine as unfailing truths.

It is claimed that Jesus found a cleansed Slave Class dispensing truthful food in 1919. However, Rutherford continued to promote Russell's interpretation of the dates for the 1700's, 1800's and 1914 until the 1930's. Many of the date prophecies were re-explained between 1930 and 1932; the remainder were adjusted in 1943. Rutherford even dismissed the majority of his own 1900's predictions.

Chapter 10 of Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom is devoted to the subject "Growing in Accurate Knowledge of the Truth". This discusses that truth is progressive, yet makes little reference to the failed dates. Relegated to a footnote on page 133 is the statement that;

"A clearer understanding of Biblical chronology was published in 1943, in the book "The Truth Shall Make You Free" and it was then refined the following year in the book "The Kingdom Is at Hand," as well as in later publications.

at 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

to be continued
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by MaxInDHouse(op): 1:18pm On Nov 27, 2024
johnw47:
giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught
According to Jews John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth gave false prophecies and false dates! smiley
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47:
MaxInDHouse:
According to Jews John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth gave false prophecies and false dates! smiley
lost false jw mad max

and of course you believe those jews who say; Jesus gave false prophecies and false dates

false jw, as well as being a blasphemer of the Holy Spirit and a non stop liar
you also deny the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit and the Word of God:

the word of God say's that God is Almighty, and you false jw say, God is not Almihgty/not all powerful

the word of God say's that Jesus is without sin, and you false jw say, Jesus is a deceiver

the word of God say's that speaking against the Holy Spirit in unforgivable, and you false jw say speaking against the Holy Spirit, is not unforgivable



false jw, you are just like those jews who falsely accused Jesus, you are clearly of your father the devil:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 1:20am On Nov 28, 2024
giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught

jwfacts..com

Scant mention is made of the incredible list of dates that had been abandoned. Nor does it clarify that it was not until 1943 that the beginning of Christ's presence was specifically changed from the year 1874 to 1914. This change was in The Truth Shall Make You Free, released in the time of Knorr and the first book to be printed that did not list the author's name. This was after the death of Rutherford and well after 1919 when Jesus inspection supposedly found a spiritually cleansed Organization.

One can imagine that over time most of the current doctrine describing events of the 1900's will eventually be seen to be of little relevance and relegated to the forgotten annals of Watchtower history. It is yet to be seen what will become of 1914; being the most significant doctrine it will be the most difficult to eradicate without overwhelming consequences.

1780
May 19, 1780 was the date for the first sign of the last days, "The Dark Day." Certain Adventists still hold to this date. It was said by Ellen that "Since the time of Moses no period of darkness of equal density, extent, and duration, has ever been recorded." (Great Controversy, p. 308) This was touched on in Studies in the Scriptures - The Day Of Vengeance (1897) p.604;

"Reckoning a hundred years from 1780, the date of the first sign, the limit would reach to 1880; and, to our understanding, every item predicted had begun to be fulfilled at that date"

The time of darkness, the first sign of the end, was caused by fires in New England and was confined mostly to the North-Eastern part of the United States. Quite typically a new religion will think their country is predicted in prophecy. The Adventists, Mormons and Watchtower Society all began as US centric religions.


at 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by MaxInDHouse(op): 6:04am On Nov 28, 2024
johnw47:
and of course you believe those jews who say; Jesus gave false prophecies and false dates
Now you're talking!
So you know the Jewish nation as a whole never accepted Jesus of Nazareth as a prophet but they called him a liar and impostor, surely something is wrong with your brains that's why you keep on believing people who are saying Jehovah's Witnesses organization are false prophets when you can't present a better performing group just as the Jews can't present another Messiah (Christ) after killing John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth.
Continue deluding yourself with false stories only Jehovah's Witnesses are true Christians! smiley
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by MaxInDHouse(op): 6:07am On Nov 28, 2024
johnw47:
jwfacts..com
Paul Grundy doesn't even believe in any God as he keeps on feeding faithless people like you with lies that you want to hear! cheesy
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by MaxInDHouse(op): 6:18am On Nov 28, 2024
Are you of the opinion that religions are like different roads leading to the same destination or there is a particular religion that God approves?
What should we expect from the religion that's approved by God?

Still waiting for your response on these! smiley
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 6:18am On Nov 28, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Now you're talking!
So you know the Jewish nation as a whole never accepted Jesus of Nazareth as a prophet but they called him a liar and impostor, surely something is wrong with your brains that's why you keep on believing people who are saying Jehovah's Witnesses organization are false prophets when you can't present a better performing group just as the Jews can't present another Messiah (Christ) after killing John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth.
Continue deluding yourself with false stories only Jehovah's Witnesses are true Christians! smiley
lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max

i will post more evidence soon of you false jw's being false prophets, oh denier of truth
and blinded one:

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by MaxInDHouse(op): 6:20am On Nov 28, 2024
johnw47:
i will post more evidence soon of you false jw's being false prophets,
From your preferred man of the people:
Paul Grundy! cheesy
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 6:22am On Nov 28, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Paul Grundy doesn't even believe in any God as he keeps on feeding faithless people like you with lies that you want to hear! cheesy
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool



lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max

when you speak all these lies you are just speaking your natural talk
just like your father the devil, of course:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by MaxInDHouse(op): 6:28am On Nov 28, 2024
johnw47:
when you speak all these lies you are just speaking your natural talk.
But Paul Grundy is telling you the truth though he doesn't believe in Jesus or God! cheesy
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 6:30am On Nov 28, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
From your preferred man of the people:
Paul Grundy! cheesy
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool



lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max

from jwfacts whose info is from so called Jehovah's witnesses publications, oh denier of truth

false jw blasphemer of the Holy Spirit:
Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by MaxInDHouse(op): 6:31am On Nov 28, 2024
johnw47:
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool



lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max

from jwfacts whose info is from so called Jehovah's witnesses publications, oh denier of truth

false jw blasphemer of the Holy Spirit:
Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
MaxInDHouse:
Are you of the opinion that religions are like different roads leading to the same destination or there is a particular religion that God approves?
What should we expect from the religion that's approved by God?

Still waiting for your response on these! smiley
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 6:35am On Nov 28, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
But Paul Grundy is telling you the truth though he doesn't believe in Jesus or God! cheesy
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max

you of course say any lie to divert from the truth about your unforgivable sin
and false jw's false prophecy's, oh fearful one:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by MaxInDHouse(op): 6:37am On Nov 28, 2024
johnw47:
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max

you of course say any lie to divert from the truth about your unforgivable sin
and false jw's false prophecy's, oh fearful one:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, [color=#990000]abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.[/color]
MaxInDHouse:
Are you of the opinion that religions are like different roads leading to the same destination or there is a particular religion that God approves?
What should we expect from the religion that's approved by God?

Still waiting for your response on these! smiley
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 6:47am On Nov 28, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Are you of the opinion that religions are like different roads leading to the same destination or there is a particular religion that God approves?
What should we expect from the religion that's approved by God?
Still waiting for your response on these! smiley
lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max

i'm not interested in discussions with you satans mob, and you are not smart enough to divert me from
continuing to point out your false jw's lies and blasphemy and false prophecies etc. oh most dum one

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 9:35am On Nov 28, 2024
giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught

jwfacts..com

1798

"And, perhaps we can answer: the "time, times, and a-half," ended in 1798, at the taking away of the papal dominion, and is one of the great landmarks of prophecy." Three Worlds and The Harvest of This World (1877) p.158

The 1260 days in Revelation 12:7 were said to extend from 538 A.D. to 1798 A.D. and marked by the end of Papal rule. In 1889, Russell changed the last days from 1798 to 1799, based on a new understanding that papal rule started in 539 A.D.

1799

Few Witnesses today are aware of the relevance of the year 1799, that this year is pivotal to the very existence of Jehovah's Witnesses. 1799 was the beginning of "the time of the end." This concept started the era of enlightenment and Adventist movement of the 1800's, resulting in Russell's end time belief system.

In no uncertain terms, Watchtower presented "proof" that 1799 was "definitely" the start of the time of the end.

"THE "Time of the End," a period of one hundred and fifteen (115) years, from A.D. 1799 to A.D. 1914, is particularly marked in the Scriptures. "The Day of His Preparation" is another name given to the same period." Studies in the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come p.23

In 1796, George Bell postulated that the Pope was the Antichrist and would fall in 1797. The war that started shortly afterwards, along with Napoleon debasing the Pope, was seen as evidence of the fulfilment of this. So dramatic was the apparent fulfilment of this prophecy that it led to the start of the Adventist movement and belief that the last days started 1799. The reasoning was related to Daniel's prophecy of the King of the North and prophecies of the 1260 days in Daniel 7:25, Revelation 12:7 and 11:1-3.

Studies in the Scriptures - The Time is as Hand and Zion's Watch Tower 1889 discussed this as relating to the 1799 date.

Catholic Papal rule started in 539 A.D. and was said to have ended 1260 years later in 1799, thus starting the beginning of the time of the end. The prophecy of the 1355 days was similarly calculated to extend from 539 A.D. to 1874, another key date in Russell's understanding of the end times. Although Russell did not get involved in the Adventist movement until the 1870's, he accepted this date as truth and felt that God had chosen him as his mouthpiece to preach the urgency of the times.

Despite Russell's death, and the failure of his teaching that Jesus earthly rulership would commence 1914, Watchtower continued with this doctrine, and even well after Jesus apparent cleansing of Watchtower in 1919.


at 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by MaxInDHouse(op): 3:00pm On Nov 28, 2024
johnw47:
i'm not interested in discussions with you
So there's no need responding to you! smiley
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47:
MaxInDHouse:
So there's no need responding to you! smiley
lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max

that's up to you dum dum, however i will continue to occasionally as i do, show up some of your many false jw lies
and your blasphemy and false jw's false prophecies etc.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by MaxInDHouse(op): 11:22pm On Nov 28, 2024
johnw47:
lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max

that's up to you dum dum, however i will continue to occasionally as i do, show up some of your many false jw lies
and your blasphemy and false jw's false prophecies etc.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
MaxInDHouse:
Are you of the opinion that religions are like different roads leading to the same destination or there is a particular religion that God approves?
What should we expect from the religion that's approved by God?

Still waiting for your response on these! smiley
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 1:07am On Nov 29, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Are you of the opinion that religions are like different roads leading to the same destination or there is a particular religion that God approves?
What should we expect from the religion that's approved by God?
Still waiting for your response on these! smiley
lost and fearful blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max

you are forever of course changing the subject, running away from the subjects that i am talking about,
that is; "your blasphemy of the Holy Spirit" and "false jw's false prophecies":

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.


false jw, you are to dum to be able to divert me away from those subjects, aren't you
Re: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by MaxInDHouse(op): 5:26am On Nov 29, 2024
johnw47:
lost and fearful blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max

you are forever of course changing the subject, running away from the subjects that i am talking about,
that is; "your blasphemy of the Holy Spirit" and "false jw's false prophecies":

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.


false jw, you are to dum to be able to divert me away from those subjects, aren't you
Respond to the OP! smiley

MaxInDHouse:
There are many religions and in fact religion is as old as mankind on planet earth but with all the nations in ancient times being in one religion/form of worship or another everyone is saying "God is one"
Are you of the opinion that religions are like different roads leading to the same destination or there is a particular religion that God approves?
What should we expect from the religion that's approved by God?


I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses!
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