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RodgersAkpafu:
We are saying the same thing
But maybe u r not getting my point

Lemme give you an example
Do you know how many judges in America (especially female ones, white) that was caught on "hot mic" saying racist shyte about black people ?
What do you think the fate of a black man will be in that court ?

What about police setting people up?
It's documented

White supremacists use these institutions to show the "others" who is boss.

How many times have white people falsely xalled the police to accuse black men of stuff they never did,

My Man, look at these things from a multidimensional lens o
Not just one corner

But what happens in say America for example is something else

Agreed. The whole picture is needed.

RodgersAkpafu:
To think that there is so much cultural similarities between the diff ethnic groups in Nigeria

Yet someone is still playing host vs settler
Rada rada oshi

That is another salient point. Lots of cultural similarities amongst various ethnic groups in the country. Our major problem is poverty, nothing else. As for Mr Causal, his honesty is appreciated. It is better to have more of his kind who say as it is.

Gerrard59:
1) To be fair though, it is Karma if you ask me. Maybe in their next life, young Brits would warn their great-grandparents from invading other people's lands.

2) The West has to engineer a new economic system that does not involve the pension system and involves less consumerism. Also, they need to increase their birth rates. Anything outside these would see the native population gradually reduce setting off tensions in the future.

3) Most importantly, for their sake, they should ensure Africa becomes wealthy. A wealthy Africa would reduce illegal and even legal migration. No Thai or South Korean would emigrate illegally to Japan.

(1) Some White Nativists when discussing this realize it was an error. Especially coming from a people who claimed to have Enlightenment and Christian Charity at the time they were conquering and enslaving others. If they didn't claim that higher knowledge what they did could be tolerated. They do deserve a lot of credit for abolishing SLAVERY, something Black Africa couldn't voluntarily let go of, a real shame.

The greater Karma has fallen upon Black Africa for selling their own people into Slavery. That's why Black Africa will forever remain the poorest continent and the biggest Black Nation will remain the Poverty Capital of the World!!!!

(2) Japan, Korea and China have low birth rates. Nobody is threatening to take over those countries. The ONLY thing any country needs is to avoid bleeding heart WOKEISM and get a strong military, preferably with nuclear weapons capability or real potential to make a weapon at short notice. Simple.

(3) THEY should ensure Africa becomes wealthy? That's the duty of the Chinese, not White people. If the UK is really serious what they need to do is elect Nigel Farage AND Kemi B in a Unity Government and deport every single asylum seeker and other illegal immigrant. Then deploy the Royal Navy with orders to shoot and sink on sight any boat illegally approaching their coasts. Problem solved.

Anyhow Happy Thanksgiving, the USA is still celebrating the Return of King Trump & Prince Baron.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

RodgersAkpafu:
We don't need you to apologise for your stupid take
You said it with your full chest and that's it

Somebody who immigrated from Kwara or Osun to Lagos is claiming "host"
or someone from ado ekiti and akure or idanre is claiming host
you must be delusional to think that this your immigrant term does not apply to them as well, or Lagos was majority yoruba even in the 70s or 80s where Lagos was the FCT that brought people from across the country to Lagos


What is messing lagos up, like most of Nigeria is an incompetent government stealing blind the state and blaming immigrants for their failures
How can you even be an immigrant in your own country sef?
How can you be hosted in ur own country ?
Like saying London is hosting someone from Sunderland
U guys don't seem to realise how stupid yall sound when you make these arguments

Again
No need to argue or take back your post
you made it with your full chest
And we have noted it

@Gerrard59

Who says I apologized? I said it with full chest and I repeated myself in case you weren’t sure.

BondRiv:
The West has no right to complain about immigration. Their past barbarisms and current neocolonialism have wrecked havoc all over the world. They are waging and funding wars all over the place, destabilising economies of developing countries, yet dare to complain about immigration? There aren't enough immigrants for their atrocities.

The West has allowed themselves to be browbeaten into tolerating their own destruction. Yes they did wrong, but you can't deny they did much good too. Without the West, Black Africans would still be indulging in slavery.

Developing countries have tended to embrace SOCIALISM for the sole reason that Western colonialist nations are CAPITALIST. That's the reason they're poor, it has little to do with Western sabotage. Yes Western sanctions have hurt Zimbabwe badly, but what kind of Western sanctions is to blame for Nigeria becoming the Poverty Capital of the World?

It's time to THINK BETTER, think logically, think even if it kills!!!!

Good Luck to Nigerians.

casualobserver:
Yes!

Anyone who lived in Brtitain or regularly visited Britain especially London, Birmingham, Bradford in the 80s or 90s and steps foot there today can’t help but feel sorry for the locals. We have overwhelmed them….same thing with Lagos. Unchecked immigration by people with different social ethical and cultural values ultimately destroys that society. Usually the mass migration of a people to a place is because those people were incapable of managing their own societies and when they overwhelm the locals they bring that chaos to the new environment. Immigration only works when the immigrants are a controlled fraction of the society or it is a society like Dubai when you rule with an iron fist and there are restrictions on what immigrants can do and positions of authority they can attain.

Those who had never been may think they are paradises compared to where they are coming from but London is now a sheet hole and so is Lagos. Only those who lived in these places before the mass influx can recognize.

The main reason Britain still has some semblance of sanity is because it was a structured society before immigrants came in enmasse and they have not FULLY taken control of their institutions but they are gradually and they will in due course. First they start by taking over menial jobs, then professions and businesses, then politics and they will bring their ways and destroy it. Christian’s will start to fight Muslims. The minute an immigrant starts to asser that they have a right to their way of life as the detriment of your rules in your society is the day the clock starts ticking. I remmember about 2 decades ago when Muslim immigrants were assert g their rights to wear hijabs in schools and drive with Burkas. I said then Britain has entered once chance!


Recently there was a story of a Nigerian care agency that sent an unqualified nurse to look after a patient who died….sounds familiar? It would never happen back in the day but as soon as you put Nigerians in charge of these things their Nigerianess comes out. Same with the Pakistanis, the Arabs, Polish, Somalis, Ukrainians, etc. when I was in university we all knew which Indian doctors to go to to get a fake sick note for £10 because your assignment is late. You see that’s the cultural difference between an Indian and a Brit. A British doctor will not risk his license and reputation for £10….an Indian will!


Every group of immigrants in the UK come with their own unique assault against the system. You have the legitimate Indian doctors giving fake reports for a fee, You have the Indians running mortgage scams. You have the Somalis and their electronics and phone scams, the Nigerians with their credit card and benefit frauds etc etc. An immigrant will start with low paying jobs and eventually opens a small store, with card processing facilities. Instead of being grateful the society provided him a platform to own a business, he uses the store as a side hustle to launder stolen credit cards from fellow immigrants for a 50% fee. That’s what immigrants do! An immigrant gets a job in a bank, he becomes the insider to immigrant fruadsters. Every group of immigrants has at least one scam or assault on the system they are running ….It’s our way!! In the end the system is overwhelmed.

Maybe because I have British citizenship and can go and come as I please and also have no desire to live there again, I can say these things but if you let 1) the wrong type of immigrants 2) overwhelm your society, they will eventually destroy it.

Western society is dying, just think about it, the last 2 leaders of the Conservative Party were an Indian and a Nigerian. We are talking about the Conservative Party not Labour o!!!!

This is one of the reasons why 45% of Hispanic electorate voted for Donald Trump. They recognize that Anglo-Saxons just have a knack for creating prosperous, inventive, high-trust societies with high HDI. Whatever that instinct is, it must be preserved, it must be defended...no matter the cost!

casualobserver:
Who says I apologized? I said it with full chest and I repeated myself in case you weren’t sure.

Now the other comment on how immigrants have destroyed Lagos, the solution is simple - allow for a regional or tribal system with a high degree of autonomy in Nigeria. Maybe even secession? Any thoughts on that?

Good Luck to Nigerians.

Make we dey look how things unfold sha

Shebi na this same UK wey all of us dey
We shall see how things unfold in the coming decades

casualobserver:
Who says I apologized? I said it with full chest and I repeated myself in case you weren’t sure.

I can appreciate that
Still a tribalistic fellow though

RodgersAkpafu:
I can appreciate that
Still a tribalistic fellow though

Your opinion, you are entitled to it.

casualobserver:
Your opinion, you are entitled to it.

of course
as you, yours

CodeTemplarr:
Which is greater, the wealth the british empire got from former colonial subjects or the ones the former colonial subjects have taken to Britain after independence?
Throughout history, stronger empires have done far worse than what britain did to those they colonised. Can you run to the rich Arab countries and talk this nonsense?

Arab countries were not countries then
Except maybe the Ottomans
every Arab country (or most of them) is less than 150 years old
most r even about 100 years
wetin concern them with slavery?

Unlike the European counties who state sanctioned colonialism /slavery and have been there for centuries
Not the same thing
The Arab merchants sold slaves to the Ottomans
that's about it

IbeOkehie:
Now the other comment on how immigrants have destroyed Lagos, the solution is simple - allow for a regional or tribal system with a high degree of autonomy in Nigeria. Maybe even secession? Any thoughts on that?

Good Luck to Nigerians.

I agree with you but I think at this point it is academic. It’s never going to happen. If you observe the resistance over the tax bill, it is clear any restructuring or return to a structure that respects and gives autonomy to the constituent nations is a pipe dream.

But who knows Tinubu is restructuring the country by stealth. A lot of the things he is doing: LG autonomy, VAT reforms, etc are actually the end game of restructuring. So maybe he has a plan. Maybe he is tackling the low hanging pg fruits first. The one thing I know is Awo said it from the get go! I said it in a previous post that the way Tinubu is moving I suspect he is not planning for a second term and plans to make structural changes in his first term. He is pressing along wi5 a lot of reforms that the Northern cabal are unhappy with and he doesn’t seem bothered. Having said that there are progressive elements in the North that know the country needs to be restructured.

miketayo:
if they completely block their borders for immigrants, there is nothing you can do about it.. you guys say these things like it is your right to immigrate to their country. You are still blaming colonialism when African leaders are eating fat many years after colonialism

you r right
immigration is not a right
nor is it entitlement

casualobserver:
It is always the hosts that feel the damage of uncontrolled immigration. We who know how Lagos was knows it is now a sheet hole, it is tooo crowded. People with different values are taking over our institutions and influencing our people especially our young ones in ways that are alien to our culture. PTA, housing associations market associations etc. I make no apologies for my comment. It is even worse when the immigrants have no regard for your way of life and customs.

I make no apologies for my comments, particularly because it is those with no regard for their hosts that are most offended. Those offended by it would not tolerate it where they come from. Unfettered immigration is destroying our societies especially when you have insensitive migrants with no respect for hosts.

Anyone who is sincere with himself knows in his heart that for Yorubas in large numbers to start to get annoyed, you know the visitors have overstepped, no different from the sentiment in the Uk.

shup up your fucking mouth. You yoruba illegal immigrant in UK. You'll be deported soon. Animal.

casualobserver:
It is always the hosts that feel the damage of uncontrolled immigration. We who know how Lagos was knows it is now a sheet hole, it is tooo crowded. People with different values are taking over our institutions and influencing our people especially our young ones in ways that are alien to our culture. PTA, housing associations market associations etc. I make no apologies for my comment. It is even worse when the immigrants have no regard for your way of life and customs.

I make no apologies for my comments, particularly because it is those with no regard for their hosts that are most offended. Those offended by it would not tolerate it where they come from. Unfettered immigration is destroying our societies especially when you have insensitive migrants with no respect for hosts.

Anyone who is sincere with himself knows in his heart that for Yorubas in large numbers to start to get annoyed, you know the visitors have overstepped, no different from the sentiment in the Uk.

@Gerrard59 this idiot is a yoruba ronu miscreant. Quit engaging the fool

Savagethe21st:
shup up your fucking mouth. You yoruba illegal immigrant in UK. You'll be deported soon. Animal.

I am neither an immigrant, illegal, nor do I live in the uk, neither did I disrespect the indigenes when I was there despite being a citizen by birth. The good thing is there is a general awakening and an awareness amongst hosts worldwide whether Europe, USA or Lagos that our hospitality openness has been abused and host communities worldwide are wising up. you cannot open your doors to people who do not have the same values as you particularly with regards to respecting your hosts.

The same chaos that caused you to flee your land is what you are bringing to others whether Uk or Lagos.. Fix your country or your zone and you wouldn’t have to become a nuisance to others and when you become a visitor to other peoples homes respect their home. It’s that simple. You wouldn’t take it if strangers come to mess up you land that’s why you protect your land with all you have and keep it homogenous.

We are no longer allowing ourselves to be gaslighted with name calling. We are fully aware that you know what you are doing.

Savagethe21st:
@Gerrard59 this idiot is a yoruba ronu miscreant. Quit engaging the fool

Yeah Zik said much the same about Awo. Everyone can judge the results and see who was the miscreant and who was wiser...even a casual observer can see that much. That was a brilliant pun, did you catch it?

casualobserver:
I agree with you but I think at this point it is academic. It’s never going to happen. If you observe the resistance over the tax bill, it is clear any restructuring or return to a structure that respects and gives autonomy to the constituent nations is a pipe dream.

But who knows Tinubu is restructuring the country by stealth. A lot of the things he is doing: LG autonomy, VAT reforms, etc are actually the end game of restructuring. So maybe he has a plan. Maybe he is tackling the low hanging pg fruits first. The one thing I know is Awo said it from the get go! I said it in a previous post that the way Tinubu is moving I suspect he is not planning for a second term and plans to make structural changes in his first term. He is pressing along wi5 a lot of reforms that the Northern cabal are unhappy with and he doesn’t seem bothered. Having said that there are progressive elements in the North that know the country needs to be restructured.

Again I agree. There will be no autonomy or secession, every tribe is condemned to this Zoo. So who knows where Tinubu is headed. His RECORD, especially vis a vis Occupy Nigeria 2012, leaves much room for doubt. We shall see.

On Awo, this Igbo man is 100% in agreement. Awo was a visionary, unfortunately he had to contend with Black Africans....always a losing proposition. Much was lost by not following his prescriptions on tribal autonomy.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

Na she sabi.

onatisi:
lolz , it is their country, they can do whatever they like, if they want they can even close all their airports and borders. it is their business , i care less as long as they cant close my country to me .

As long as no one disturbs me in my village, let them carry on and keep disturbing the airwaves.

casualobserver:
Yes!

Anyone who lived in Brtitain or regularly visited Britain especially London, Birmingham, Bradford in the 80s or 90s and steps foot there today can’t help but feel sorry for the locals. We have overwhelmed them….same thing with Lagos. Unchecked immigration by people with different social ethical and cultural values ultimately destroys that society. Usually the mass migration of a people to a place is because those people were incapable of managing their own societies and when they overwhelm the locals they bring that chaos to the new environment. Immigration only works when the immigrants are a controlled fraction of the society or it is a society like Dubai when you rule with an iron fist and there are restrictions on what immigrants can do and positions of authority they can attain.

Those who had never been may think they are paradises compared to where they are coming from but London is now a sheet hole and so is Lagos. Only those who lived in these places before the mass influx can recognize.

The main reason Britain still has some semblance of sanity is because it was a structured society before immigrants came in enmasse and they have not FULLY taken control of their institutions but they are gradually and they will in due course. First they start by taking over menial jobs, then professions and businesses, then politics and they will bring their ways and destroy it. Christian’s will start to fight Muslims. The minute an immigrant starts to asser that they have a right to their way of life as the detriment of your rules in your society is the day the clock starts ticking. I remmember about 2 decades ago when Muslim immigrants were assert g their rights to wear hijabs in schools and drive with Burkas. I said then Britain has entered once chance!


Recently there was a story of a Nigerian care agency that sent an unqualified nurse to look after a patient who died….sounds familiar? It would never happen back in the day but as soon as you put Nigerians in charge of these things their Nigerianess comes out. Same with the Pakistanis, the Arabs, Polish, Somalis, Ukrainians, etc. when I was in university we all knew which Indian doctors to go to to get a fake sick note for £10 because your assignment is late. You see that’s the cultural difference between an Indian and a Brit. A British doctor will not risk his license and reputation for £10….an Indian will!


Every group of immigrants in the UK come with their own unique assault against the system. You have the legitimate Indian doctors giving fake reports for a fee, You have the Indians running mortgage scams. You have the Somalis and their electronics and phone scams, the Nigerians with their credit card and benefit frauds etc etc. An immigrant will start with low paying jobs and eventually opens a small store, with card processing facilities. Instead of being grateful the society provided him a platform to own a business, he uses the store as a side hustle to launder stolen credit cards from fellow immigrants for a 50% fee. That’s what immigrants do! An immigrant gets a job in a bank, he becomes the insider to immigrant fruadsters. Every group of immigrants has at least one scam or assault on the system they are running ….It’s our way!! In the end the system is overwhelmed.

Maybe because I have British citizenship and can go and come as I please and also have no desire to live there again, I can say these things but if you let 1) the wrong type of immigrants 2) overwhelm your society, they will eventually destroy it.

Western society is dying, just think about it, the last 2 leaders of the Conservative Party were an Indian and a Nigerian. We are talking about the Conservative Party not Labour o!!!!

How does this tie in with the theory of immigrant paradox?
You argue that the presence of immigrants leads to social chaos and fraud, but how do you account for the fact that many immigrants have faced systemic barriers, including discrimination, and still manage to contribute positively in various sectors?
Could it be that the problems you identify are more about socio-economic inequality and prejudice rather than the cultural background of immigrants themselves?
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Regarding the topic. I view issues like these as "political spaghettification".
Immigration is one of the most divisive issues in human global history and will remain so.

Immigration have been part of US politics for decades and it will remain so. In the 1930's over one million Mexicans were deported from the US but what most people don't know is that most of them were US citizens.
I know of a Nigerian who was refused entry into Nigeria and has been in the US for about 35 years without hope of ever going to Nigeria despite many attempts.
If push comes to shove, citizenship won't save anyone, that's a secret nobody knows.

studyless123:
As long as no one disturbs me in my village, let them carry on and keep disturbing the airwaves.

Na true Na. Why should I worry about UK immigration problems when I have my own. They should worry about their own while I worry about mine . If they like they can even close all the streets and shops in UK , Na their business and palava be dat

IbeOkehie:
This is one of the reasons why 45% of Hispanic electorate voted for Donald Trump. They recognize that Anglo-Saxons just have a knack for creating prosperous, inventive, high-trust societies with high HDI. Whatever that instinct is, it must be preserved, it must be defended...no matter the cost!

I remember walking around 3am to a faraway convenience store, I saw young folks walking and riding bicycles late in the night. Gisting, smoking, drinking etc., with no problem. The convenience store I initially went to couldn't process the transaction I desired only for a 19 year old Japanese male who suggested walking me down to another store that processes the transaction. I told him clearly "If there is anything you would do as a Japanese to ensure your country remains as safe as it is, do it"

Gerrard59:
I remember walking around 3am to a faraway convenience store, I saw young folks walking and riding bicycles late in the night. Gisting, smoking, drinking etc., with no problem. The convenience store I initially went to couldn't process the transaction I desired only for a 19 year old Japanese male who suggested walking me down to another store that processes that transaction. I told him clearly "If there is anything you would do as a Japanese to ensure your country remains as safe as it is, do it"

UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer has just made a speech vowing to overhaul their immigration system, that it's too open and experimental. I haven't even read the news, a friend just told me. Apparently the PM has gone MAGA as in Make Anglos Great Again.

King Trump is changing the world.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

studyless123:
Regarding the topic. I view issues like these as "political spaghettification".
Immigration is one of the most divisive issues in human global history and will remain so.

Immigration have been part of US politics for decades and it will remain so. In the 1930's over one million Mexicans were deported from the US but what most people don't know is that most of them were US citizens.
I know of a Nigerian who was refused entry into Nigeria and has been in the US for about 35 years without hope of ever going to Nigeria despite many attempts.
If push comes to shove, citizenship won't save anyone, that's a secret nobody knows.

Nonsense. No government in the UK or US is aiming to deport legal citizens. It might happen by accident, same as collateral casualties in war.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

Gerrard59:
I remember walking around 3am to a faraway convenience store, I saw young folks walking and riding bicycles late in the night. Gisting, smoking, drinking etc., with no problem. The convenience store I initially went to couldn't process the transaction I desired only for a 19 year old Japanese male who suggested walking me down to another store that processes that transaction. I told him clearly "If there is anything you would do as a Japanese to ensure your country remains as safe as it is, do it"

I mean
Most streets of the UK are safe. even at night.

Some parts of London, not so much, but it's more of an economic deprivation issue than ethnicity issue, because London crime is to minorities what Blackpool crime is to white deprived boys left behind


Western Leaders should stop playing to the gallery and address the elephant in the room. which is declining living standards everywhere
When living standards decline, all these craziness results
Even in the strictest of countries. Once the economy goes in free fall, everything goes to shyte

Belgium comes to mind here
But it seems that the political class is in bed with the oligarchy to screw everybody else, and the result will continue to be people yearning for far right lunatics to lead them (who clearly don't have the solutions)

studyless123:
How does this tie in with the theory of immigrant paradox?
You argue that the presence of immigrants leads to social chaos and fraud, but how do you account for the fact that many immigrants have faced systemic barriers, including discrimination, and still manage to contribute positively in various sectors?
Could it be that the problems you identify are more about socio-economic inequality and prejudice rather than the cultural background of immigrants themselves?
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Regarding the topic. I view issues like these as "political spaghettification".
Immigration is one of the most divisive issues in human global history and will remain so.

Immigration have been part of US politics for decades and it will remain so. In the 1930's over one million Mexicans were deported from the US but what most people don't know is that most of them were US citizens.
I know of a Nigerian who was refused entry into Nigeria and has been in the US for about 35 years without hope of ever going to Nigeria despite many attempts.
If push comes to shove, citizenship won't save anyone, that's a secret nobody knows.

Japanese people bombed pearl harbour
the next thing
2nd and 3rd generation Japanese Americans were packed like sardine inside interment camps (fancy word for concentration camps)

You know, some third world immigrants have so much low self esteem, that they are so "grateful" that "merciful" oyibo people let them in to live life that they could "never" live where they come from, so that inferiority complex keeps seeping out from the comments they make

You cannot cuddle white supremacy. It's something that you have to keep challenging and weakening if minorities ever want to have peace living anywhere, even in their own countries of origin.
We can talk about salient issues without fanning the embers of white supremacist right wing talking points

So long story short
I get what you r saying

casualobserver:
I am neither an immigrant, illegal, nor do I live in the uk, neither did I disrespect the indigenes when I was there despite being a citizen by birth. The good thing is there is a general awakening and an awareness amongst hosts worldwide whether Europe, USA or Lagos that our hospitality openness has been abused and host communities worldwide are wising up. you cannot open your doors to people who do not have the same values as you particularly with regards to respecting your hosts.

The same chaos that caused you to flee your land is what you are bringing to others whether Uk or Lagos.. Fix your country or your zone and you wouldn’t have to become a nuisance to others and when you become a visitor to other peoples homes respect their home. It’s that simple. You wouldn’t take it if strangers come to mess up you land that’s why you protect your land with all you have and keep it homogenous.

We are no longer allowing ourselves to be gaslighted with name calling. We are fully aware that you know what you are doing.

This man is very funny
Immigrants from messed up states like Ogun, Kwara, Kogi and Osun will move to lagos and now be claiming "hosts"

Thank God the FCT was moved to Abuja, if not who knows what would have happened today with this whole ronu nonsense

White man dey do white supremacist (which is moronic) , Yoruba immigrant from sheethole states wan follow do Yoruba supremacy too?

Wonders shall never end lol .

What's even more funny is that if the "outsider" voting block was the reliable voting block of the APC (who are the architects of these ronu nonsense), and the other group were anti apc, the climate would have been very diff...

Una go get sense las las

RodgersAkpafu:
I mean
Most streets of the UK are safe. even at night.

Some parts of London, not so much, but it's more of an economic deprivation issue than ethnicity issue, because London crime is to minorities what Blackpool crime is to white deprived boys left behind

Western Leaders should stop playing to the gallery and address the elephant in the room. which is declining living standards everywhere
When living standards decline, all these craziness results
Even in the strictest of countries. Once the economy goes in free fall, everything goes to shyte

Western elites should admit it and let go of their arrogance: the era of Western economic dominance is coming to an end. Europe don enter gbese. Fight its biggest consumer then alienate its biggest energy supplier. Add an aging population (who would pay taxes to fund new developments and maintain the infrastructure?) and it becomes worse. To exacerbate the issue, the closest continent is the world's poorest. Unlike South East Asia to China, where would the EU find young consumers to patronise its products and services?

I predicted everything here: https://www.nairaland.com/7801886/multipolarism-versus-hegemonism-great-power

I should become a pastor by now sef.

Belgium comes to mind here
But it seems that the political class is in bed with the oligarchy to screw everybody else, and the result will continue to be people yearning for far right lunatics to lead them (who clearly don't have the solutions)

That's the intriguing thing about it. People lampoon China and the CCP, but the CCP would never sacrifice economic prosperity for ordinary Chinese above an elite class of people. Chinese or better still East Asian elites are way more pragmatic than their Western counterparts. The economic livelihoods of your citizens, especially ordinary males, MUST come first before any other group of people.

RodgersAkpafu:
This man is very funny
Immigrants from messed up states like Ogun, Kwara, Kogi and Osun will move to lagos and now be claiming "hosts"

Thank God the FCT was moved to Abuja, if not who knows what would have happened today with this whole ronu nonsense

White man dey do white supremacist (which is moronic) , Yoruba immigrant from sheethole states wan follow do Yoruba supremacy too?

Wonders shall never end lol .

What's even more funny is that if the "outsider" voting block was the reliable voting block of the APC (who are the architects of these ronu nonsense), and the other group were anti apc, the climate would have been very diff...
Una go get sense las las

That goes to show Mr Causal hypocrisy. To think that Igbos bring better cultural ideologies to any place than the other major group of which I wouldn't mention its name. The examples abound across Nigeria: outside the Lagos issue, other Nigerians know who they'd rather choose to have live amongst them.

Gerrard59:
Western elites should admit it and let go of their arrogance: the era of Western economic dominance is coming to an end. Europe don enter gbese. Fight its biggest consumer then alienate its biggest energy supplier. Add an aging population (who would pay taxes to fund new developments and maintain the infrastructure?) and it becomes worse. To exacerbate the issue, the closest continent is the world's poorest. Unlike South East Asia to China, where would the EU find young consumers to patronise its products and services?

I predicted everything here: https://www.nairaland.com/7801886/multipolarism-versus-hegemonism-great-power

I should become a pastor by now sef.


That's the intriguing thing about it. People lampoon China and the CCP, but the CCP would never sacrifice economic prosperity for ordinary Chinese above an elite class of people. Chinese or better still East Asian elites are way more pragmatic than their Western counterparts. The economic livelihoods of your citizens, especially ordinary males, MUST come first before any other group of people.

Actually , Europe can actually guarantee decent living standards for everyone.... But to do that they need to ditch the Americans, and keep their private equity machine at bay.

There is nothing wrong with the European economy as such, its just designed "somehow"

The rising inequality is the problem here.
It's funny you mentioned China because China is going through hell as well....
Their economy is worse now, than it was ib 2008....
it's only a matter of time before even them cracked...
But their own still better because at least, their govt can easily mobilise funds and "sectorise" them
This cannot happen in America and Europe because of democracy
China stimulus after stimulus will be exercise in futility though, until they also address their own elephant in the room

I don't even want to talk of Africa because that one is a lost case for now

Globally living standards is declining because of rampant capital accumulation by the elite
They are sucking all the value leaving bones for the masses, then knocking their heads to fight each other based on race tribe or whatever while they feast

I agree with ur premise of paragraph 2 though
the ordinary males must be taken care of

IbeOkehie:
Nonsense. No government in the UK or US is aiming to deport legal citizens. It might happen by accident, same as collateral casualties in war.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

Actually studyless is right, if push comes to shove, your citizenship won't save you

RodgersAkpafu:
This man is very funny
Immigrants from messed up states like Ogun, Kwara, Kogi and Osun will move to lagos and now be claiming "hosts"

Thank God the FCT was moved to Abuja, if not who knows what would have happened today with this whole ronu nonsense

White man dey do white supremacist (which is moronic) , Yoruba immigrant from sheethole states wan follow do Yoruba supremacy too?

Wonders shall never end lol .

What's even more funny is that if the "outsider" voting block was the reliable voting block of the APC (who are the architects of these ronu nonsense), and the other group were anti apc, the climate would have been very diff...

Una go get sense las las

Focus on your own land and let the people of Lagos determine who is a foreigner to them.

Overpopulation:
The time it took to go from LASU to UNILAG to LASU in the ‘80s you will spend just trying to go from Ikoyi to Lekki today. That is simply down to overcrowding.

Value clash:
An example: we always had environmental sanitation every month. Guess where the immigrant who abused our court system claiming denial of human rights to abolish the Sanitation exercise resulting in floods everywhere today comes from? We never had flooding when we had monthly environmental sanitation. The indigenes that were performing the exercise for decades, you think we didn’t know it impedes our movement or that we had rights? It is always a particular tribe that feel they must impose their ways on their hosts. Many of us have seen the trending podcast and how 3 Ibo hosts tried to gaslight a yoruba host over imposition of Ibo leaders in a yoruba state.

Nobody is forming supremacy, if we did we would not open our doors to you in the first place but we will not be gaslighted. All we are saying is you are in our land, respect our ways…simple! After all it’s not like you came here because you like us, you came because your place does not offer opportunities and ours does. People from other tribes coexist peacefully in other people’s land……why is it always and only you? Hausa, Idoma, Edo, itsekiri, Calabar, Bayelsa people no dey Lagos?

Finally you clearly do not know the history of Lagos or the difference between the Federal capital of Lagos and Lagos state and its composition and history.

Let me educate you:

The federal capital was Lagos Island. Apapa, Isola, Ikeja, Epe, ikorodu, Badagry, surulere, Lekki, etc etc etc we’re all part of the western region. All those industrial estates, Apapa, Isolo, Ikeja etc were built by Awo. Ikeja stands for ikorodu and Epe joint administration. They were never federal territories. The Apapa port was under the Western region. Epe, ikorodu, lekki etc are ijebus! My grandfather is from Epe. I am in my land. Even if I am not from Lagos I am in Yoruba land, I know understand and respect Yoruba culture, traditions and respect them. In your ignorance you don’t seem to understand the difference between Lagos the federal territory and Lagos the state.