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Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by LegendHero(op): 7:26pm On Nov 30, 2024
jmoore:
Una dey reply without knowing what you are replying to.

Petrol should not be less than 5,000 naira per liter in Atlanta.

Why is petrol almost same price in Atlanta and Nigeria?
Why is new iPhone same price in Nigeria and Atlanta?

Why is crude oil same price in Nigeria and Atlanta?

The reason why petrol is lesser/higher in most countries is simply because the government subsidize it or tax it.

If you remove taxes and subsidy, petrol will sell averagely same price in most countries with +-10% margin.
Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by Frigga13: 7:29pm On Nov 30, 2024
helinues:
I don't need to sweat. This thread alone is enough.

Why it is s hard for you express yourself without mentioning Yoruba this, Yoruba that?

For how long would you continue with something that's already stale on this forum

Or have you forgotten about Yoruba must contest repeated line before the election
You’re derailing

But get this

You can’t tell me how to type and what to post… so long I don’t break rules

Weda e stale or not.. is your business not mine

I hardly come to your thread .. or complain

Do your thing … no dey shook eyes for person house .

We’re done
Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by jmoore(m): 7:31pm On Nov 30, 2024
LegendHero:
Why is new iPhone same price in Nigeria and Atlanta?

Why is crude oil same price in Nigeria and Atlanta?

The reason why petrol is lesser/higher in most countries is simply because the government subsidize it or tax it.

If you remove taxes and subsidy, petrol will sell averagely same price in most countries with +-10% margin.
Nigeria doesn't produce Iphone.

Nigeria has crude oil.
Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by JagabanBorgu: 7:33pm On Nov 30, 2024
WakeUpNigerians:
You are a Liar!

Provide evidence Dangote fuel has high octane and same quality as the one sold in USA.
Before calling him a liar, bring your facts to counter what he posted before calling it a lie.
Nigerians never learn, you don't tell someone posting data that he's lying until u have your own data to prove he's lying, that's how the world works anywhere, u lots should engage with common sense, everything is not politics.
Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by nedu666: 7:33pm On Nov 30, 2024
Suddenly all Yoruba defenders are now in atlanta. if you switch to Newcastle, they will all claim to be in Newcastle. You want us to believe you Suddenly started going to fuel station to snap prices for reasons of disproving keporogi. This una defender job hard oo
Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by LegendHero(op): 7:34pm On Nov 30, 2024
jmoore:
Nigeria doesn't produce Iphone.

Nigeria has crude oil.
How much does it cost to extract crude oil from the ground? Who will pay the international companies extracting it from the ground?

Nigeria is a poor country. The crude we produce is not even up to 1.8m bpd for a population of 250million people.

How much crude does UAE produce and what is their population.

Give us numbers
Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by LegendHero(op): 7:36pm On Nov 30, 2024
nedu666:
Suddenly all Yoruba defenders are now in atlanta. if you switch to Newcastle, they will all claim to be in Newcastle. You want us to believe you Suddenly started going to fuel station to snap prices for reasons of disproving keporogi. This una defender job hard oo
This is me in 2019 and I’ve been consistent with where I’m based.

Kperogi know most of you guys are dummies, so he can easily just whyne you with anything.

If I say iPhone is expensive in Nigeria than USA, won’t you ask for what kind of iPhone am I comparing?

Is it okay to compare iPhone 6 price with iPhone 7 price elsewhere?

Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by agadez007(m): 8:08pm On Nov 30, 2024
nedu666:
Suddenly all Yoruba defenders are now in atlanta. if you switch to Newcastle, they will all claim to be in Newcastle. You want us to believe you Suddenly started going to fuel station to snap prices for reasons of disproving keporogi. This una defender job hard oo
The same way The issue about Igbo not selling land came out and suddenly all Yorubas served in Nnewi and Orlu
Suddenly all of their uncles Friends wanted to buy land in the South east and were rejected
Fear this people,they lie with ease
Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by GeneralPulal: 10:07pm On Nov 30, 2024
etin06:
You are only talking about the fuel aspect, what about the minimum wage? With the wide gap in minimum wage between the two countries we are not even supposed to compare the prices of fuel in both countries but here we are.
As you remember minimum wage, no forget taxes..

Do we pay the same taxes that are being paid in Atlanta?
Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by Kukutente23: 11:18pm On Nov 30, 2024
The Op is silly
Kperoogi raised two issues. Fuel price and minimum wage. Op took only fuel price and then started writing rubbish about minimum wage.

Note that Kperoogi clearly said no one earns minimum wage in Atlanta and he gave an example of his daughter doing a menial low- end job and earning $13 per hrs.

Meanwhile a lot of low end earners in Nigeria do not earn the present minimum wage even till now!!
Kperoogi is correct about the fuel price.

Nigeria imports fuel that's far lower in quality than that of the US and the price is still almost the same with US but the foolish Op wants to defend that by using Dangote.

Who has confirmed Dangote’s claim of fuel quality. How much fuel has Dangote supplied to the Nigerian market? He hasn't even taken his petrol anywhere outside Nigeria.

Meanwhile the diesel he produces is not up to US standard and he had to own up to it later. So if he lied about his diesel quality, what's to say he's not lying about fuel as well?
Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by Kukutente23: 11:22pm On Nov 30, 2024
GeneralPulal:
As you remember minimum wage, no forget taxes..

Do we pay the same taxes that are being paid in Atlanta?
Do we get tax cuts and tax rebates like they do in Atlanta?

Kperoogi pointed out that state govts in the US subsidise fuel price. He gave an example of same Atlanta where the Gov gave tax rebates to cushion fuel price.

When has that ever happened in Nigeria?
They get access to mortgages and food stamp and child credit in Atlanta like in most other states.

Do you get that in Nigeria. Food is cheap in the US. You spend less than 10% of your income on food. In Nigeria, food takes more than 60% of average income earner's pay.
Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by sultaan(m): 12:17am On Dec 01, 2024
You all have to understand that if some people do not come to counter the facts with bogus information/ logic they will be just as hungry and any other Nigerian.


I bought fuel from Sam's club for $2.30 last month and it might be cheaper tomorrow,Nigeria is an aberration and those who benefit want to like that.

Turning this away from a Nigeria must fix situation just shows who the problem are and not what the situation is.

Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by LegendHero(op):
Kukutente23:
Do we get tax cuts and tax rebates like they do in Atlanta?
What do you mean by tax cut? Do you mean on property taxes or normal income tax? The property tax a year here is enough to build a full house in Nigeria. The only thing you get is homestead exemption and to qualify for that, you need to satisfy some requirement which over 95% of the population won’t merit.

Kperogi should tell us what exactly he mean by tax cut.

Kperoogi pointed out that state govts in the US subsidise fuel price. He gave an example of same Atlanta where the Gov gave tax rebates to cushion fuel price.
Cushion fuel price when? He only suspended gas tax for a while which already ended since 2023. It’s a 31.2cent per gallon taxes. That is not what is called subsidy that Nigeria does.

Nigeria for example will also charge zero VAT on petrol with the new tax reform.

When has that ever happened in Nigeria?
They get access to mortgages and food stamp and child credit in Atlanta like in most other states.
Access to mortgage? Is mortgage free? Won’t you also do down payments? Except for most military that have 0% down payment or some lender promotion for first time home buyers with less down payment %, you’ll still need to put some $$ down and closing cost. Most of the mortgage are privately company financed owned so I don’t know what you’re saying.

Nigeria also have their own mortgage financing even tho FG haven’t been able to extend it to most Nigerians yet. We need the private institution to spearhead it, government can only do little.




Do you get that in Nigeria. Food is cheap in the US. You spend less than 10% of your income on food. In Nigeria, food takes more than 60% of average income earner's pay.
I agree there is food inflation in Nigeria when you factor in average percentage o people spend on food relative to their earnings. No one is shying away from that not even the FG.

But Kperogi coming online to create a topic that “Petrol is expensive in Nigeria than Atlanta” is a big lie. Even the lowest grade petrol in Atlanta is still less expensive that Dangote fuel.
Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by Pigstormentor: 12:33am On Dec 01, 2024
Legendhero.... Truly you are dumb and shallow.

Nuff said. grin
Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by LegendHero(op): 12:35am On Dec 01, 2024
sultaan:
You all have to understand that if some people do not come to counter the facts with bogus information/ logic they will be just as hungry and any other Nigerian.


I bought fuel from Sam's club for $2.30 last month and it might be cheaper tomorrow,Nigeria is an aberration and those who benefit want to like that.

Turning this away from a Nigeria must fix situation just shows who the problem are and not what the situation is.
How much subscription do you pay yearly for Sam’s club membership? Hope you will also tell Nigerians that?

Or you think anyone can just walk to Sam’s club gas station to purchase their fuel without subscription.

Also mind you, that $2.30 is the lowest grade and Sam’s club are subsidizing it for their own subscribers. The same thing Costco does.
Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by bdon123(m): 12:44am On Dec 01, 2024
WakeUpNigerians:
You are a Liar!

Provide evidence Dangote fuel has high octane and same quality as the one sold in USA.
Me sef tire....how did he conclude dangote is premium fuel of 93
Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by LegendHero(op): 1:05am On Dec 01, 2024
bdon123:
Me sef tire....how did he conclude dangote is premium fuel of 93
I know because I am smarter.

Dangote has consistently stated that their fuel is Euro V compliant, and this claim has not been disputed yet.

Most European countries compliant with Euro V usually run average 95 research octane rating. So that means Dangote fuel will be >= 95 RON.

So if you convert that to USA standard Octane rating, it’s over 91 octane number which falls in premium petrol spectrum.

Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by MTNnews: 1:26am On Dec 01, 2024
Bro lunatics from Ipobland with nothing sensible to contribute to this convesation should shut their foolish soul up


Frigga13:
You don’t come online with half truth to prove a point legendhero.. and when they ask you to prove … you tell another to prove ..

He who assert must prove …

Reason why I hate arguing with Yoruba on nairaland .. they will just be rigmaroling simple matters

So what’s the essence of this thread when you can’t clearly defend your position

APC is evil
Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by Validated: 2:05am On Dec 01, 2024
LegendHero:
Okay provide proof that Dangote do not sell the highest grade. At least before you call me a liar, you should have fact to disprove me.
Oga, stop deceiving yourself. No refinery in Africa produces high grade fuel.
Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by LegendHero(op): 2:42am On Dec 01, 2024
Validated:
Oga, stop deceiving yourself. No refinery in Africa produces high grade fuel.
Tell it to the marines.
Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by loffyloffy: 3:16am On Dec 01, 2024
Yeah, the minimum wage in Nigeria is way lower than in the US, but you also gotta remember that the cost of living is a lot cheaper here.

Dangote said his fuel is premium, but he didn't say what octane level it is. If it's true that it's premium, then it's probably more expensive because it has a higher octane rating.

But here's the thing, we don't really need premium fuel in Nigeria. Most cars can run just fine on regular fuel. So, instead of focusing on producing premium fuel, we should focus on making fuel more affordable for everyone.
Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by ElSudani: 4:47am On Dec 01, 2024
LegendHero:
I kinda like Kperogi bringing it up, probably it will make people in government have serious conversations.

Nigeria have no business buying same grade of petrol for all cars. During subsidy regime, we can understand NNPC will generally import low grade oil to reduce cost, but now that we have refineries, they should give us the option to choose.
This is a great idea. If you are not driving a high end car you don't need premium fuel. Perhaps this is something the government can look into.
Selling different grades can go a long way in solving some of the pricing issues.
Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by veli1(m): 4:59am On Dec 01, 2024
etin06:
You are only talking about the fuel aspect, what about the minimum wage? With the wide gap in minimum wage between the two countries we are not even supposed to compare the prices of fuel in both countries but here we are.
Abeg ask the tunkusa😎😎😎
Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by LegendHero(op): 5:00am On Dec 01, 2024
loffyloffy:
Yeah, the minimum wage in Nigeria is way lower than in the US, but you also gotta remember that the cost of living is a lot cheaper here.

Dangote said his fuel is premium, but he didn't say what octane level it is. If it's true that it's premium, then it's probably more expensive because it has a higher octane rating.

But here's the thing, we don't really need premium fuel in Nigeria. Most cars can run just fine on regular fuel. So, instead of focusing on producing premium fuel, we should focus on making fuel more affordable for everyone.
You got what I am saying exactly. We don’t need premium fuel. Let luxury car use premium and let normal cars use normal fuel.
Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by LegendHero(op): 5:14am On Dec 01, 2024
ElSudani:
This is a great idea. If you are not driving a high end car you don't need premium fuel. Perhaps this is something the government can look into.
Selling different grades can go a long way in solving some of the pricing issues.
It could remove nothing less than N300 easily, and that’s something too
Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by Softmirror: 5:26am On Dec 01, 2024
LegendHero:
How much does it cost to extract crude oil from the ground? Who will pay the international companies extracting it from the ground?

Nigeria is a poor country. The crude we produce is not even up to 1.8m bpd for a population of 250million people.

How much crude does UAE produce and what is their population.

Give us numbers
They lack this kind of reasoning. Very narrow minded people.
Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by AskProf: 5:37am On Dec 01, 2024
etin06:
You are only talking about the fuel aspect, what about the minimum wage? With the wide gap in minimum wage between the two countries we are not even supposed to compare the prices of fuel in both countries but here we are.
There is no wide gap in minimum wage. Don't even mention that.

What you have is a HUGE GULLY.

We should learn to call a spade by its name. A spade.
Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by Kukutente23: 6:35am On Dec 01, 2024
LegendHero:
What do you mean by tax cut? Do you mean on property taxes or normal income tax? The property tax a year here is enough to build a full house in Nigeria. The only thing you get is homestead exemption and to qualify for that, you need to satisfy some requirement which over 95% of the population won’t merit.

Kperogi should tell us what exactly he mean by tax cut.
Just last month, Gov Kemp announced a tax rebate that he claims will save citizens over $1bn. Not only that same October, there was another tax rebates proposal per family which gave $250 to single fillers, $375 per family headed by a single and $500 per married couple. That's N805k you get for being married in Georgia. These two rebates I mentioned when fully implemented will cost the state $6.6bn. Note that these refunds are being given because state revenue rose. Now let's bring it home. Nigeria's tax income has been rising since the Buhari era and even got a leap since Tinubu came to power. With all the hunger in the land, when have you heard anything like tax refund. Instead it's how to tax the people more they are planning.

Cushion fuel price when? He only suspended gas tax for a while which already ended since 2023. It’s a 31.2cent per gallon taxes. That is not what is called subsidy that Nigeria does.

Nigeria for example will also charge zero VAT on petrol with the new tax reform.
Nigeria charges tax on fuel. Multiple taxes actually. Making it sound as if the people in Nigeria are better off in terms of fuel price compared to the US is plain dishonest. If you're sure that's the case kindly jump on the next flight and come live under your darling Tinubu. You cannot hide in the US and be pontificating for us here.

Access to mortgage? Is mortgage free? Won’t you also do down payments? Except for most military that have 0% down payment or some lender promotion for first time home buyers with less down payment %, you’ll still need to put some $$ down and closing cost. Most of the mortgage are privately company financed owned so I don’t know what you’re saying.

Nigeria also have their own mortgage financing even tho FG haven’t been able to extend it to most Nigerians yet. We need the private institution to spearhead it, government can only do little.

I agree there is food inflation in Nigeria when you factor in average percentage o people spend on food relative to their earnings. No one is shying away from that not even the FG.

But Kperogi coming online to create a topic that “Petrol is expensive in Nigeria than Atlanta” is a big lie. Even the lowest grade petrol in Atlanta is still less expensive that Dangote fuel.
I guess in Nigeria's almost non- existent mortgage system, there's no down payment. Why don't you visit FHA webpage and see the requirements for yourself. How many people can afford it?
Your FG is not shying away but what are they doing about food inflation? Just offering platitudes about turning the corner. Even the import duty exemption they announced was not implemented. Bread is beyond the reach of the poor and most of the locally made bread are not even if good quality or healthy. I doubt anyone will dare to sell such bread in Atlanta
In September 2024, two moths ago, Petrol price for regular gasoline was $2.97 per gallon so Kperoogi is not lying. All this your claim on Dangote is a big fat lie. That's how he claimed his diesel was Europe standard only to backtrack later on. There's nothing Dangote cannot say to get an advantage. He knows NMDPRA does not have testing facilities. Moreover, most of the fuel in Nigeria is still imported and not from Dangote and Nigeria imports the cheapest fuel quality. That's a known fact.
So quit your BS
Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by Kukutente23: 6:46am On Dec 01, 2024
LegendHero:
You got what I am saying exactly. We don’t need premium fuel. Let luxury car use premium and let normal cars use normal fuel.
Who uses premium fuel in Nigeria? Stop all this BS. Just August, it emerged that most fuel used in Nigeria was imported from Malta in a blending plant there. Does that sound like high quality fuel to you? Fuel being imported to Nigeria is regular fuel. That's being known since.

In October, Nigeria's fuel regulator NMDPRA significantly improved its gasoline fuel quality standard, from 150 parts per million (ppm) of sulfur content to 50 ppm. It has gradually been reducing its sulfur cap from levels that were once over 1,000 ppm as part of a drive by the Economic Community of West African Countries (ECOWAS) to raise standards and reduce health risks.


Whereas in the US, what you have for standard petrol is 10ppm
Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by SalamRushdie: 7:04am On Dec 01, 2024
LegendHero:
Below is another fuel station Valero as they usually have different prices irrespective of distance from each other.

Using the exchange rate of ₦1647 to $1 and noting that 1 gallon equals 3.785 liters, here’s what I found at a Chevron station:

—Regular grade: $3.099/gallon = ₦1348.49 per liter

—Medium grade: $3.699/gallon = ₦1609.58 per liter

—Premium grade: $4.099/gallon = ₦1783.63 per liter

Again, you can see that the premium grade sells too higher. Nigeria don’t have business buying only premium grade petrol. A 2006 Toyota don’t need premium grade, a taxi driver don’t need premium grade.

Government need to charge the oil sector people to give Nigeria the choice of fuel grade at the pump.
The low IQ in the country is too much

Who told you Dangote is selling premium? Dangote is selling standard petrol and he is not even able to sell enough because Oando/NNPC are bringing in Ethanol blended dirty Petrol which account for over 90 percent of the sale of Petro in Nigeria ....you are being sold low quality ethanol flex fuel for the price of Americans standard Petro
Re: Evidence That Fuel Is Actually Cheaper In Nigeria Than Atlanta – A Re To Kperogi by LegendHero(op): 7:09am On Dec 01, 2024
Kukutente23:
Who uses premium fuel in Nigeria? Stop all this BS. Just August, it emerged that most fuel used in Nigeria was imported from Malta in a blending plant there. Does that sound like high quality fuel to you? Fuel being imported to Nigeria is regular fuel. That's being known since.
We are saying the same thing. The imported fuel are not premium fuel, I never said that. What I am talking about is Dangote refinery PMS. It is Euro V standard and it is Premium. It is different from what we import from Malta.

My argument is that Dangote should give Nigerians the options of buying different grade which include regular and premium. The FG need to mandate gas stations to have multiple options for consumers to choose.

In October, Nigeria's fuel regulator NMDPRA significantly improved its gasoline fuel quality standard, from 150 parts per million (ppm) of sulfur content to 50 ppm. It has gradually been reducing its sulfur cap from levels that were once over 1,000 ppm as part of a drive by the Economic Community of West African Countries (ECOWAS) to raise standards and reduce health risks.

Whereas in the US, what you have for standard petrol is 10ppm .
I don’t know why you are typing this one. I am talking about Dangote refined fuel and not imported fuel. All this copy and paste is for the imported fuel.

Whereas in the US, what you have for standard petrol is 10ppm
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