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What did Jesus mean when he said, "My Father is greater than I"?



What did Jesus mean when he said, "My Father is greater than I"?

Let's give a biblical explanation. First, we won't use the weak explanation that Jesus was simply talking about His flesh nature or human nature. That is a weak explanation to use. We are going to use the word of God in the Bible to explain it.

John 14:28 (New King James Version) says, "You have heard Me say to you, 'I am going away and coming back to you.' If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said, 'I am going to the Father,' for My Father is greater than I."

What did Jesus mean by that? Simple. He tells you in the previous chapter. The servant is not greater than his lord. He that is sent is not greater than him that sent him. You see this scenario? This is exactly how we are going to figure out exactly what Jesus meant.

Now, let me ask you. Is Jesus the servant or is Jesus the lord? Remember, the servant is not greater than his lord. Or is He greater than Him that sent Him? So I will ask you again, is Jesus the servant or is Jesus the lord?

Now, what did Jesus say before? John 13:13 (New King James Version) says, "You call Me Teacher and Lord, and you say well, for so I am."

You call Me master and lord, and you say well, because that is what I am. But wait a minute. Jesus also said, "The servant is not greater than his lord." So is Jesus the servant or is Jesus the lord? Answer: Yes. He's both.

But how do we know this? It's below in Philippians 2:6-8 (King James Bible), which says, "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."

But made himself of no reputation and took upon the form of a servant and was made in the likeness of man. The servant is not greater than his lord. Neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.

Now that we've established that, guess what? If Jesus is both the servant and the lord, guess what? Then He is also the one that was sent and the one that sent Himself. Glory! Yes. God can send Himself. I don't see why people find that so weird.

Because this is not the first time God has done it. Psalm 104:30 (New King James Version) says, "You send forth Your Spirit, they are created; And You renew the face of the earth."

In Psalm 104:30, God sent His Holy Spirit, which is His Spirit, and accomplished what He wanted. And the Holy Spirit is God Himself; He is the Spirit of God Himself.

Psalm 107:20 (New International Version) says, "He sent out his word and healed them; he rescued them from the grave." King James Bible says, "He sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions."

So, John 1:1 tells us who the Word is that delivered us from the grave. The Word is Jesus Himself.

But why did Jesus describe Himself as a servant? Why did Jesus describe Himself as someone that was sent? John 13:13-16 (New King James Version) says, "You call Me Teacher and Lord, and you say well, for so I am. If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet. For I have given you an example, that you should do as I have done to you."

It's simple. He tells you in between the two verses that I originally gave you. For I have given you an example that you should do as I have done to you. And what example was this? But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.

And who are we supposed to serve exactly? And whosoever of you will be the chiefest shall be servant of all. That's right. If you want to be the greatest among all the disciples, you have to be the servant of all. Not just the servant, but one that serves.

That is the example that He gave us. For even the Son of Man came not to be ministered unto but to minister and to give His life a ransom for many.

The Father is greater than I. He's not talking about a different person. Or is He talking about a lower state?

Answer
That statement is there to show us the example that He left us.

And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be brought down, and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted

Glory
Bread Of Christ Power Church
Pastor Kingsley
Nigeria..

Dtruthspeaker:
Una no understand English again? Is it not clear especially as He even Said that He does not do His own will?

Kingsnairaland:
My friend

God is all in one and one in all

Only God can speak and you will be able to see his voice

Dtruthspeaker:
Nna, The child of God, is a God! no argument here. You are obviously looking for trinity and anti trinity people to argue foolishly.

Dtruthspeaker:
Nna, The child of God, is a God! no argument here. You are obviously looking for trinity and anti trinity people to argue foolishly.

Kingsnairaland:
What did Jesus mean when he said, "My Father is greater than I"?

What did Jesus mean when he said, "My Father is greater than I"?
Let's give a biblical explanation. First, we won't use the weak explanation that Jesus was simply talking about His flesh nature or human nature. That is a weak explanation to use. We are going to use the word of God in the Bible to explain it.

John 14:28 (New King James Version) says, "You have heard Me say to you, 'I am going away and coming back to you.' If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said, 'I am going to the Father,' for My Father is greater than I."

What did Jesus mean by that? Simple. He tells you in the previous chapter. The servant is not greater than his lord. He that is sent is not greater than him that sent him. You see this scenario? This is exactly how we are going to figure out exactly what Jesus meant.

Now, let me ask you. Is Jesus the servant or is Jesus the lord? Remember, the servant is not greater than his lord. Or is He greater than Him that sent Him? So I will ask you again, is Jesus the servant or is Jesus the lord?

Now, what did Jesus say before? John 13:13 (New King James Version) says, "You call Me Teacher and Lord, and you say well, for so I am."

You call Me master and lord, and you say well, because that is what I am. But wait a minute. Jesus also said, "The servant is not greater than his lord." So is Jesus the servant or is Jesus the lord? Answer: Yes. He's both.

But how do we know this? It's below in Philippians 2:6-8 (King James Bible), which says, "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."

But made himself of no reputation and took upon the form of a servant and was made in the likeness of man. The servant is not greater than his lord. Neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.

Now that we've established that, guess what? If Jesus is both the servant and the lord, guess what? Then He is also the one that was sent and the one that sent Himself. Glory! Yes. God can send Himself. I don't see why people find that so weird.

Because this is not the first time God has done it. Psalm 104:30 (New King James Version) says, "You send forth Your Spirit, they are created; And You renew the face of the earth."

In Psalm 104:30, God sent His Holy Spirit, which is His Spirit, and accomplished what He wanted. And the Holy Spirit is God Himself; He is the Spirit of God Himself.

Psalm 107:20 (New International Version) says, "He sent out his word and healed them; he rescued them from the grave." King James Bible says, "He sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions."

So, John 1:1 tells us who the Word is that delivered us from the grave. The Word is Jesus Himself.

But why did Jesus describe Himself as a servant? Why did Jesus describe Himself as someone that was sent? John 13:13-16 (New King James Version) says, "You call Me Teacher and Lord, and you say well, for so I am. If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet. For I have given you an example, that you should do as I have done to you."

It's simple. He tells you in between the two verses that I originally gave you. For I have given you an example that you should do as I have done to you. And what example was this? But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.

And who are we supposed to serve exactly? And whosoever of you will be the chiefest shall be servant of all. That's right. If you want to be the greatest among all the disciples, you have to be the servant of all. Not just the servant, but one that serves.

That is the example that He gave us. For even the Son of Man came not to be ministered unto but to minister and to give His life a ransom for many.

The Father is greater than I. He's not talking about a different person. Or is He talking about a lower state?

Answer
That statement is there to show us the example that He left us.

And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be brought down, and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted

Glory
Bread Of Christ Power Church
Pastor Kingsley
Nigeria..

NNTR:
...

Absolutely 150% correct, albeit, unfortunately, the Greek word, 'morphē', hasn't an English exact equivalent, what the word conveys in that Philippians 2:6 context, is Jesus already existed in the form of God, as in meaning, the character of God (i.e. having all the the mental and moral qualities that are distinctive to God or what God is known for)

John 14:12-18
'12I assure you and most solemnly say to you,
anyone who believes in Me [as Savior] will also do the things that I do;
and he will do even greater things than these [in extent and outreach], because I am going to the Father.
13And I will do whatever you ask in My name [as My representative], this I will do,
so that the Father may be glorified and celebrated in the Son.
14If you ask Me anything in My name [as My representative], I will do it.
15“If you [really] love Me, you will keep and obey My commandments.
16And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper (Comforter, Advocate, Intercessor--Counselor, Strengthener, Standby), to be with you forever--
17the Spirit of Truth, whom the world cannot receive [and take to its heart] because it does not see Him or know Him, but you know Him because He (the Holy Spirit) remains with you continually and will be in you.
18“I will not leave you as orphans [comfortless, bereaved, and helpless]; I will come [back] to you'

Absolutely 150% correct, as sons are subservient to the Father.
1.) Arent you subject to your father?
2.) Arent you obedient to your father?
3.) Why would you think that Jesus should be exempted from this rule?
4.) Why would you think that Jesus should be a law on to Himself, hmm?
5.) How do you reconcile John 14:16 (i.e. I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper) and John 14:18 (i.e. I will not leave you as orphans [comfortless, bereaved, and helpless]; I will come [back] to you), as in, who is that in John 14:16 and John 14:18?

Anyway, the word “greater” spoken of in John 14:28, is describing role, as in the function played in formulating the salvation, redemption and reconciliation plan and is not talking about essence or importance.

The Son ran an errand for the Father, carried out the wishes, the intent, the plan et cetera of the Father and went back to give the Father the update

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
John 1:3
'1In the beginning was the one, who is called the Word.
The Word was with God and was truly God.
2From the very beginning, the Word was with God.
3And with this Word, God created all things.
Nothing was made without the Word.
Everything that was created'

The Word created all things, while Jesus existed 4000 years after being projected out from God

God in the beginning was.
God existed long before we were all created.
God participated in making all other things.
God lived in heaven before coming down, as Jesus, to earth.

All sons are distinct from their fathers, so Jesus isnt an exception to this rule. God is not a law breaker, meaning God conforms to this rule or standard too.

Jesus, is a distinct person from God, the Father, who in this instance and even context, is the one true Begetter, or Paterfamilias of Jesus

Fathers are always held in higher esteem than their sons, so dont expect Jesus to go against the grain, meaning dont expect Him not toe the line, in this respect, nor be surprised that He Himself said, the Father is greater than Him (i.e. John 14:28)

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Kingsnairaland:
You call Me master and lord, and you say well, because that is what I am.

John 13:13 (New King James Version) says, "You call Me Teacher and Lord, and you say well, for so I am."

Jesus told you he is both here read it

Kingsnairaland:
You are funny no argument on a truth

Correction a god not a God

Brenbentondiaz:
OK. Jesus called God "My God" in the gospels, and about 3 times He said same in Revelations 3. Could you pls find anywhere in the scriptures where Jehovah God called Jesus Christ or anybody "My God"? Thanks.

Brenbentondiaz:
OK. Jesus called God "My God" in the gospels, and about 3 times He said same in Revelations 3. Could you pls find anywhere in the scriptures where Jehovah God called Jesus Christ or anybody "My God"? Thanks.

Truvelisback:
Jesus said that because of the Spiritual hierachy or hierachy in the Godhead. It's difficult to explain but i will try. Jesus is God and He co-existed with God The Father and The HolySpirit and He is equal with them. The Book of Genesis will explain better. However, Jesus made that statement because of His mission on earth i.e to redeem man. He had to show humility and obedience and become a man to fulfil that.

Brenbentondiaz:
OK. Jesus called God "My God" in the gospels, and about 3 times He said same in Revelations 3.

Could you pls find anywhere in the scriptures where Jehovah God called Jesus Christ or anybody "My God"?
Thanks.

NNTR:
Hebrews 1:8
But about the Son [the Father says to Him],
“YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER,
AND THE SCEPTER OF [absolute] RIGHTEOUSNESS IS THE SCEPTER OF HIS KINGDOM.

It becomes easy to comprehend once the noun God and/or god, is realised that it equates to Influence/influence and/or Influence/influencer, and then easily get when is who influencing who and when

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Kingsnairaland:
Below here God the father speaking through the mouth of David saying to Jesus your throne oh God

Psalm 45:6 ►

New International Version
Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.

New Living Translation
Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever. You rule with a scepter of justice



Below father God said to Jesus God the son
.... then father God said how he will set Jesus up above everything

Psalm 45:7 ►

New International Version
You love righteousness and hate wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy.

New Living Translation
You love justice and hate evil. Therefore God, your God, has anointed you, pouring out the oil of joy on you more than on anyone else.




Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Matthew 1:23 23 “Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel” which means, God with us


Amplified Bible
‘THE LORD (the Father) SAID TO MY LORD (the Son, the Messiah), “SIT AT MY RIGHT HAND, UNTIL I PUT YOUR ENEMIES UNDER YOUR FEET”

Matthew 22:44

New International Version
“’The Lord said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet."’

New Living Translation
‘The Lord said to my Lord, Sit in the place of honor at my right hand until I humble your enemies beneath your feet

Brenbentondiaz:
Sorry pls I hope you're not dyslexic

Brenbentondiaz:
(or maybe you're trying to be clever by half)

Brenbentondiaz:
How is "O God" the same as "My God"? God called Jesus God (the capitalisation of the G is just a distinction that a person like you that wants to push the narrative that Jesus is Almighty God can also insert), but He also talked about humans as "ye are gods" in the book of Psalm. So, it won't be strange that He called Jesus "God", too. But did He call Jesus "My God" as Jesus said of Him? And now, back to the scripture you quoted. This is how you guys quote scriptures selectively to push your unscriptural narrative. This is the complete text below:
But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
9Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. (Heb 1:8-9).
I can see you "forgot" to add where the same scripture said His (Jesus) God had anointed Him (Jesus) above His fellows (at the bolded). Lolz.

Brenbentondiaz:
Lolz. I've already busted this your being clever by half with one of you up there.

NNTR:
So you rather aim for the leg or foot and kick them, as opposed play and kick the ball, hmm?

Suspect you've just stumbled on the phrase '... trying to be clever by half ...' as you soon will continue to use it

To the best of your understanding and considerable knowledge, dignify me please the sum of what God and/or god means in the context of Hebrews 1:8-9? (i.e. leave no stone unturned)

Thank you in advance for your humble, honest, mature and sincere answer

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Please open the Catholic New Jerusalem Bible at Psalms 45:6 & Hebrews 1:8 and realize the folly of your claims.
You have been deceived by the Trinitarian rendition of Hebrew 1:8.
This fact was exposed in the Catholic New Jerusalem Bible.

Kingsnairaland:
There is nothing that can make you understand the mystery of godliness
As long as you don't understand how you yourself are a trinity

Kingsnairaland:
What did Jesus mean when he said, "My Father is greater than I"?



What did Jesus mean when he said, "My Father is greater than I"?

Let's give a biblical explanation. First, we won't use the weak explanation that Jesus was simply talking about His flesh nature or human nature. That is a weak explanation to use. We are going to use the word of God in the Bible to explain it.

John 14:28 (New King James Version) says, "You have heard Me say to you, 'I am going away and coming back to you.' If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said, 'I am going to the Father,' for My Father is greater than I."

Kingsnairaland:
What did Jesus mean by that? Simple. He tells you in the previous chapter. The servant is not greater than his lord. He that is sent is not greater than him that sent him. You see this scenario? This is exactly how we are going to figure out exactly what Jesus meant.

Now, let me ask you. Is Jesus the servant or is Jesus the lord? Remember, the servant is not greater than his lord. Or is He greater than Him that sent Him? So I will ask you again, is Jesus the servant or is Jesus the lord?

Now, what did Jesus say before? John 13:13 (New King James Version) says, "You call Me Teacher and Lord, and you say well, for so I am."

You call Me master and lord, and you say well, because that is what I am. But wait a minute. Jesus also said, "The servant is not greater than his lord." So is Jesus the servant or is Jesus the lord? Answer: Yes. He's both.

Kingsnairaland:
But how do we know this? It's below in Philippians 2:6-8 (King James Bible), which says, "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."

But made himself of no reputation and took upon the form of a servant and was made in the likeness of man. The servant is not greater than his lord. Neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.

"Thought it not robbery to be equal with God"

Oga,is that Trinitarian rendition conflicting with the teaching of Jesus @ John 14:28 & @ 1 Corinthians 11:3?
Oga,use the holy scriptures judge for yourself.

The question is would Jesus grasp equality which doesn't exist on earth @ John 14:28 & also which doesn't exist @ 1 Corinthians 11:3 in the spiritual realm?

Go to Bill Mounce Philippians 2:6 Greek interlinear bible & verify the truth.

kingsnairaland:
Now that we've established that, guess what? If Jesus is both the servant and the lord, guess what? Then He is also the one that was sent and the one that sent Himself. Glory! Yes. God can send Himself. I don't see why people find that so weird.

kingsnairaland:
Because this is not the first time God has done it. Psalm 104:30 (New King James Version) says, "You send forth Your Spirit, they are created; And You renew the face of the earth."

In Psalm 104:30, God sent His Holy Spirit, which is His Spirit, and accomplished what He wanted. And the Holy Spirit is God Himself; He is the Spirit of God Himself.

kingsnairaland:
Psalm 107:20 (New International Version) says, "He sent out his word and healed them; he rescued them from the grave." King James Bible says, "He sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions."

So, John 1:1 tells us who the Word is that delivered us from the grave. The Word is Jesus Himself.

kingsnairaland:
But why did Jesus describe Himself as a servant? Why did Jesus describe Himself as someone that was sent? John 13:13-16 (New King James Version) says, "You call Me Teacher and Lord, and you say well, for so I am. If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet. For I have given you an example, that you should do as I have done to you."

It's simple. He tells you in between the two verses that I originally gave you. For I have given you an example that you should do as I have done to you. And what example was this? But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.

And who are we supposed to serve exactly? And whosoever of you will be the chiefest shall be servant of all. That's right. If you want to be the greatest among all the disciples, you have to be the servant of all. Not just the servant, but one that serves.

That is the example that He gave us. For even the Son of Man came not to be ministered unto but to minister and to give His life a ransom for many.

The Father is greater than I. He's not talking about a different person. Or is He talking about a lower state?

Answer
That statement is there to show us the example that He left us.

And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be brought down, and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted

Glory
Bread Of Christ Power Church
Pastor Kingsley
Nigeria..

Janosky:
Please open the Catholic New Jerusalem Bible at Psalms 45:6 & Hebrews 1:8 and realize the folly of your claims.
You have been deceived by the Trinitarian rendition of Hebrew 1:8.
This fact was exposed in the Catholic New Jerusalem Bible.

NNTR:
I am sure you know that the Godhead is not restricted to the Trinitarian limit, so with that said, please for the moment, put on one side your new found love of Catholic New Jerusalem Bible at Psalms 45:6 & Hebrews 1:8, and now to the best of your understanding and considerable knowledge, dignify me please the sum of what God and/or god means in the context of Hebrews 1:8-9? (i.e. leave no stone unturned)

Thank you in advance for your humble, honest, mature and sincere answer

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Kingsnairaland:
Below here God the father speaking through the mouth of David saying to Jesus your throne oh God

Psalm 45:6 ►

New International Version
Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.

New Living Translation
Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever. You rule with a scepter of justice



Below father God said to Jesus God the son
.... then father God said how he will set Jesus up above everything

Psalm 45:7 ►

New International Version
You love righteousness and hate wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy.

New Living Translation
You love justice and hate evil. Therefore God, your God, has anointed you, pouring out the oil of joy on you more than on anyone else.




Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Matthew 1:23 23 “Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel” which means, God with us


Amplified Bible
‘THE LORD (the Father) SAID TO MY LORD (the Son, the Messiah), “SIT AT MY RIGHT HAND, UNTIL I PUT YOUR ENEMIES UNDER YOUR FEET”

Matthew 22:44

New International Version
“’The Lord said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet."’

New Living Translation
‘The Lord said to my Lord, Sit in the place of honor at my right hand until I humble your enemies beneath your feet