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Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:31pm On Dec 01, 2024
Explore2xmore:
You are fighting to deny that despite a claimed belief in Jesus killing and fighting still occurs among the so called adherents.
Good!

So called adherents just as an atheist will take you the same way he takes ògún and ṣàngó worshipers after all you're all THEISTS to him claiming you believe in God/Gods. smiley
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by GothamCities: 4:36pm On Dec 01, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Are you sure the "YOU" here is individually or reminding them what he said at Matthew 18:20? smiley
Yes, it's individually. He was instructing them to go preach the gospel. The gospel is preached both individually and collectively. Jesus said whether individually or collectively, I am with you until the end of time.

You also must not forget that He is in us individually too. Not just with us.
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by Explore2xmore: 4:37pm On Dec 01, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Good!

So called adherents just as an atheist will take you the same way he takes ògún and ṣàngó worshipers after all you're all THEISTS to him claiming you believe in God/Gods. smiley
At least you accept that the so called adherents of your Jesus also kill. You too are a theist aren't you so you are very well included.

Excellent!
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by GothamCities: 4:40pm On Dec 01, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
The word "RELIGION" is new what people call it in ancient times is "WORSHIP" that's why you can't find any name of a religion in the Bible as for the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob there is rules guiding His worshipers as in those practicing that RELIGION!
The Word religion is not new. It has existed in many languages from the beginning of time.

The Bible is not about religions. So we cannot the talking about the name of a religion in the Bible.

But religions existed in this world before Christ, during Christ and after Christ.
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:40pm On Dec 01, 2024
GothamCities:
Yes, it's individually. He was instructing them to go preach the gospel. The gospel is preached both individually and collectively. Jesus said whether individually or collectively, I am with you until the end of time.
Jesus didn't ask them to go out alone preaching rather he sent them out in PAIRS {Mark 6:7; Luke 10:1} that's why he said it's either they are two or three before he can join them in doing the work! smiley
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:42pm On Dec 01, 2024
Explore2xmore:
At least you accept that the so called adherents of your Jesus also kill. You too are a theist aren't you so you are very well included.
Excellent!
Great!
So next time don't speak against THEISTS since all THEISTS are on the same page! smiley
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:42pm On Dec 01, 2024
GothamCities:
The Word religion is not new. It has existed in many languages from the beginning of time.

The Bible is not about religions. So we cannot the talking about the name of a religion in the Bible.

But religions existed in this world before Christ, during Christ and after Christ.
At least you can't find one in the Bible! smiley
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by Explore2xmore: 4:43pm On Dec 01, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Great!
So next time don't speak against THEISTS since all THEISTS are on the same page! smiley
Definitely not as so called theists have different concepts of the almighty God.
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by GothamCities: 4:47pm On Dec 01, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
At least you can't find one in the Bible! smiley
And that's not what we're arguing about!

The argument is not about whether religions are in the Bible or not!
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by GothamCities: 4:51pm On Dec 01, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus didn't ask them to go out alone preaching rather he sent them out in PAIRS {Mark 6:7; Luke 10:1} that's why he said it's either they are two or three before he can join them in doing the work! smiley
That's a lie.

There was even someone who preached alone during Christ time. The disciples asked if they should forbid the person. Jesus said they should allow him, "he who is not against us is for us." He was a lone preacher.

Jesus told the mad man of Gadara to go proclaim what God had done for him. He went making the proclamation alone.

Phillip went to Samaria alone and preached the Gospel there.

There are many instances of preaching alone. Christ is not just with us. He is in us.
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:10pm On Dec 01, 2024
Explore2xmore:
Definitely not as so called theists have different concepts of the almighty God.
Concepts you say?
Naaaaaaaaah since they all claimed they believe in the supernatural we don't need to discuss about whatever concept they have all we need now is they all agree that there is the supernatural.
Does this mean you're on the same page with worshipers of Ṣàngó, Ọya, Ògún and Obàtálá? smiley
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:11pm On Dec 01, 2024
GothamCities:
And that's not what we're arguing about!
The argument is not about whether religions are in the Bible or not!
Whatever makes people GATHER to call upon the supernatural is a RELIGION! wink
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:13pm On Dec 01, 2024
GothamCities:
That's a lie.

There was even someone who preached alone during Christ time. The disciples asked if they should forbid the person. Jesus said they should allow him, "he who is not against us is for us." He was a lone preacher.

Jesus told the mad man of Gadara to go proclaim what God had done for him. He went making the proclamation alone.

Phillip went to Samaria alone and preached the Gospel there.

There are many instances of preaching alone. Christ is not just with us. He is in us.
The man preaching alone was sent by who?

Jesus didn't send the man he was simply saying what he knew about Jesus according to the scriptures.

Christians were sent by Jesus and he appointed them to go in PAIRS! Mark 6:7; Luke 10:1
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by Explore2xmore: 5:14pm On Dec 01, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Concepts you say?
Naaaaaaaaah since they all claimed they believe in the supernatural we don't need to discuss about whatever concept they have all we need now is they all agree that there is the supernatural.
Does this mean you're on the same page with worshipers of Ṣàngó, Ọya, Ògún and Obàtálá? smiley
Type of supernatural.
I don't believe in God begeting and you do.
Neither do I believe in a begotten dying for God to admit me to paradise and that is fundamentally different.

Besides you believe in existence of other gods alongside the almighty whoch Muslims don't and that is a fundamentally distinctive difference.
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:16pm On Dec 01, 2024
Explore2xmore:
Type of supernatural.
I don't believe in God begeting and you do.
Neither do I believe in a begotten dying for God to admit me to paradise and that is fundamentally different. Besides you believe in existence of other gods alongside the almighty whoch Muslims don't and that is a fundamentally distinctive difference.
Guy you're a THEIST just like all others there is no need talking about what you believe all we need now is you're one of those claiming God or Gods exists!
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by Explore2xmore: 5:22pm On Dec 01, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Guy you're a THEIST just like all others there is no need talking about what you believe all we need now is you're one of those claiming God or Gods exists!
In your dreams deceptive former Muslim that became a JW at odds with other followers of Christianity and Jesus.

Theism in Islam stands out from other theistic religions mainly due to its strict monotheism (Tawhid), the unique characteristics ascribed to God, a specific interpretation of revelation through prophethood, the distinct dynamics of the relationship between God and humanity, a divinely mandated moral framework, and its beliefs about judgment after death.
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by GothamCities: 5:36pm On Dec 01, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
The man preaching alone was sent by who?

Jesus didn't send the man he was simply saying what he knew about Jesus according to the scriptures.

Christians were sent by Jesus and he appointed them to go in PAIRS! Mark 6:7; Luke 10:1
So, it was only the example of the man that you saw?
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by GothamCities: 5:37pm On Dec 01, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Whatever makes people GATHER to call upon the supernatural is a RELIGION! wink
According to your Bible I suppose.
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:45pm On Dec 01, 2024
Explore2xmore:
Theism in Islam stands out from other theistic religions mainly due to its strict monotheism (Tawhid), the unique characteristics ascribed to God, a specific interpretation of revelation through prophethood, the distinct dynamics of the relationship between God and humanity, a divinely mandated moral framework, and its beliefs about judgment after death.
All these is meaningless to a neutral person as long as you claim there is an unseen supernatural being somewhere your definition doesn't matter to any neutral person but when your god is able to remove weapons in the hearts and hands of adherents that's going to make a lot of sense to whoever is concerned because that will make your god stand out not just your claims of monotheism or polytheism. wink
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:51pm On Dec 01, 2024
GothamCities:
So, it was only the example of the man that you saw?
Jesus organized his disciples to go preaching in PAIRS! Mark 6:7; Luke 10:1

GothamCities:
According to your Bible I suppose.
WORSHIP is the same as RELIGION since people GATHER to WORSHIP TOGETHER!
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by GothamCities: 9:59pm On Dec 01, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus organized his disciples to go preaching in PAIRS! Mark 6:7; Luke 10:1
So Philip sinned by preaching alone?


WORSHIP is the same as RELIGION since people GATHER to WORSHIP TOGETHER!
According to your Bible?
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by GothamCities: 10:02pm On Dec 01, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
The man preaching alone was sent by who?
Did Jesus ask that of His disciples before endorsing the man? Or what type of question is that?

Jesus didn't send the man he was simply saying what he knew about Jesus according to the scriptures.
Can you quote the verse you fetched this lie from? The man was casting out devils in Christ's name!

Christians were sent by Jesus and he appointed them to go in PAIRS! Mark 6:7; Luke 10:1
And so what? Was Philip sinning by preaching alone?
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by Explore2xmore: 10:30pm On Dec 01, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
All these is meaningless to a neutral person as long as you claim there is an unseen supernatural being somewhere your definition doesn't matter to any neutral person but when your god is able to remove weapons in the hearts and hands of adherents that's going to make a lot of sense to whoever is concerned because that will make your god stand out not just your claims of monotheism or polytheism. wink
I am directly chatting with you so it is very relevant to you.
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:35pm On Dec 01, 2024
GothamCities:
Did Jesus ask that of His disciples before endorsing the man? Or what type of question is that?
Jesus' disciples need to go out and preach the Kingdom of God {Matthew 10:7} the man saw Jesus performing miracles and used his name to cast out demons but he wasn't sent by Jesus that's what his disciples couldn't understand.

GothamCities:
Can you quote the verse you fetched this lie from? The man was casting out devils in Christ's name!
That's not what makes him Jesus' disciples many will do the same yet Jesus will say he doesn't know them! Matthew 7:21-23

GothamCities:
And so what? Was Philip sinning by preaching alone?
Phillip used to GATHER with other worshipers! Act 6:5
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:43pm On Dec 01, 2024
Explore2xmore:
I am directly chatting with you so it is very relevant to you.
Ọmọ Jesus COMMANDED his disciples to love and pray for their enemies {Luke 6:27-28} so if you're saying different religions disobeying that order are all his followers simply because they claims so then there is no reason trying to separate your Allah from other gods all are deities and the worshipers are all THEISTS keep whatever your Allah says aside whoever claims he or she is worshiping god is for your Allah! smiley
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by Explore2xmore: 11:43pm On Dec 01, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ Jesus COMMANDED his disciples to love and pray for their enemies {Luke 6:27-28} so if you're saying different religions disobeying that order are all his followers simply because they claims so then there is no reason trying to separate your Allah from other gods all are deities and the worshipers are all THEISTS keep whatever your Allah says aside whoever claims he or she is worshiping god is for your Allah! smiley
You should feel sorry for yourself haven forgotten your Bible has Jesus clearly stating that his kingdom is not of this world.

Throughout history, different Christian denominations have committed acts of violence against one another or against those considered heretics. The Inquisition serves as a notable example, where people faced persecution for their beliefs, resulting in torture and execution.

In modern times, conflicts involving Christians can be observed in various geopolitical situations where religious identity overlaps with nationalistic or ethnic tensions. For example, civil wars or sectarian violence in areas like Northern Ireland or certain parts of Africa frequently see Christian groups on opposing sides.
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by Explore2xmore: 11:48pm On Dec 01, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ Jesus COMMANDED his disciples to love and pray for their enemies {Luke 6:27-28} so if you're saying different religions disobeying that order are all his followers simply because they claims so then there is no reason trying to separate your Allah from other gods all are deities and the worshipers are all THEISTS keep whatever your Allah says aside whoever claims he or she is worshiping god is for your Allah! smiley
Your Jesus commandment to love one’s enemies is a fundamental principle of the Christian faith. However, historical events show that enmity and violence have arisen among believers for various reasons, such as misinterpretations of teachings, cultural influences, the inherent tendency of human nature towards conflict, and the impact of socio-political contexts.

So regardless of your personal desire or delusion these killings occur.
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:49am On Dec 02, 2024
Explore2xmore:
You should feel sorry for yourself haven forgotten your Bible has Jesus clearly stating that his kingdom is not of this world. Throughout history, different Christian denominations have committed acts of violence against one another or against those considered heretics. The Inquisition serves as a notable example, where people faced persecution for their beliefs, resulting in torture and execution. In modern times, conflicts involving Christians can be observed in various geopolitical situations where religious identity overlaps with nationalistic or ethnic tensions. For example, civil wars or sectarian violence in areas like Northern Ireland or certain parts of Africa frequently see Christian groups on opposing sides.
Explore2xmore:
Your Jesus commandment to love one’s enemies is a fundamental principle of the Christian faith. However, historical events show that enmity and violence have arisen among believers for various reasons, such as misinterpretations of teachings, cultural influences, the inherent tendency of human nature towards conflict, and the impact of socio-political contexts.

So regardless of your personal desire or delusion these killings occur.
So all races on these planet are worshiping the god they know as your Allah nah.

The funny thing about you is the way and manner you will start quoting your book as if other worshipers aren't worshiping your Allah based on what is written in your book but now i'm quoting what Jesus said in the Bible for all his disciples to OBEY Instead of reasoning to understand that anyone ignoring this order is not worshiping the God that sent Jesus you're saying killers are Christians simply because they claimed so.
Why not accept that all worshipers of God/Gods are doing so for your Allah irrespective of what your Allah says in your book?smiley
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by GothamCities: 9:38am On Dec 02, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus' disciples need to go out and preach the Kingdom of God {Matthew 10:7} the man saw Jesus performing miracles and used his name to cast out demons but he wasn't sent by Jesus that's what his disciples couldn't understand.


That's not what makes him Jesus' disciples many will do the same yet Jesus will say he doesn't know them! Matthew 7:21-23


Phillip used to GATHER with other worshipers! Act 6:5
Did Philip go preach in pairs? You're not truthful!
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by GothamCities: 9:51am On Dec 02, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus organized his disciples to go preaching in PAIRS! Mark 6:7; Luke 10:1


WORSHIP is the same as RELIGION since people GATHER to WORSHIP TOGETHER!
Did Philip sin by going to preach alone? You're just a religionist. You don't know God.

Worship is not the same as religion. Stop lying!
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by Explore2xmore: 10:47am On Dec 02, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
So all races on these planet are worshiping the god they know as your Allah nah.

The funny thing about you is the way and manner you will start quoting your book as if other worshipers aren't worshiping your Allah based on what is written in your book but now i'm quoting what Jesus said in the Bible for all his disciples to OBEY Instead of reasoning to understand that anyone ignoring this order is not worshiping the God that sent Jesus you're saying killers are Christians simply because they claimed so.
Why not accept that all worshipers of God/Gods are doing so for your Allah irrespective of what your Allah says in your book?smiley
Quran 29:17: You worship idols besides God, and you fabricate falsehoods. Those you worship, instead of God, cannot provide you with livelihood. So seek your livelihood from God, and worship Him, and thank Him. To Him you will be returned.


Quran 31:13 ......, do not associate anything with God, for idolatry is a terrible wrong

When you channel your worship towards an intermediary rather than directly to God it becomes an idolatrous practices as those intermediaries overshadow the direct worship due only to God.

You practice your faith based on 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus but end up magnifying the mediator above God.

This amongst others has inadvertently led to practices that blur the lines between reverence for Christ and veneration that resembles idol worship.

Muslims pray to Allah directly as he is extremely close to us.
Re: Does It Make Sense for Muslims to Call Jesus's Message Injeel = good News? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:04am On Dec 02, 2024
GothamCities:
Did Philip go preach in pairs? You're not truthful!
Of course because that's how Jesus commissioned the work, the Ethiopian Eunuch already believe the scriptures it's only the understanding he doesn't have that's why Phillips has to run along to ask him if he needs help to understand what he was reading not that Philip went preaching alone.
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