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Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by Factcheck0001: 12:42am On Dec 02, 2024
didymario7:
You are only proving his point. Nnamdi Kanu can't leave without the oil rich south south states.
y?

Dem join their umbilical cord together?
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by nesphil(m): 12:46am On Dec 02, 2024
Everyone knows those who are holding the cord that's still binding this country together and it's not Yoruba definitely.

So you guys should stop deceiving yourselves.

The day the real Niger Delta people decided to part ways with this Country, that day it will become very easy for the SE people to go away as well, and that's the day Nigeria will break into pieces and Yorooba won't do anything shit.

[quote author=NLCreator post=133108742]https://x.com/mindshiftorg/status/1862871734296138161?s=19[/quote]
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by Magnumproperty: 12:53am On Dec 02, 2024
Zooposki:
So a BAT presidency is more important than Regional Government and Resource Control?
That is politics for you. And I'm not sure you are a chess player. If you are not, meet a professional to explain chess ♟️ moves to you.

During obasanjo reign; the North told him they want sharia law, he allowed them so that he can have his way for second term. How can we have two different constitutions in one country? That is politics for you.
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by Magnumproperty: 12:55am On Dec 02, 2024
nesphil:
Everyone knows those who are holding the cord that's still binding this country together and it's not Yoruba definitely.

So you guys should stop deceiving yourselves.

The day the real Niger Delta people decided to part ways with this Country, that day it will become very easy for the SE people to go away as well, and that's the day Nigeria will break into pieces and Yorooba won't do anything shit.
What are the procedures for cessation? And what does Nigeria constitution says about cessation?
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by didymario7(m): 12:55am On Dec 02, 2024
DarkJeddi:
Which has the numbers to stop alone?
What you need is the numbers to pass the bill and without the North it won't scale through.
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by Magnumproperty: 12:59am On Dec 02, 2024
didymario7:
The Economic power in the South West is dependent on the Country remaining one. How and from whom do you think Lagos makes its money?

If Nigeria disintegrates today and every one returns to their state of origin, The Niger Delta states will blossom far more than any South West state.
Before the discovery of oil in the Nigeria Delta, what was the financial position of each region in Nigeria? Which of the three regions plus Lagos was topping in all economic indices? Kindly do your research and post your answer here.
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by didymario7(m): 1:05am On Dec 02, 2024
Magnumproperty:
Before the discovery of oil in the Nigeria Delta, what was the financial position of each region in Nigeria? Which of the three regions plus Lagos was topping in all economic indices? Kindly do your research and post your answer here.
You are talking about the past, I am talking about the present, 2 totally different times. Do you think Cocoa can generate any meaningful revenue today? If Nigeria disintegrates today, Bayelsa will generate more money per capita than Lagos (if indeed you understand how Lagos makes it's money.)
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by NewDea4: 1:06am On Dec 02, 2024
NLCreator:
https://x.com/mindshiftorg/status/1862871734296138161?s=19[/quote]Look at these idíot monkeys?!

Of course everyone is praying and waiting for it to be broken!
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by Magnumproperty: 1:08am On Dec 02, 2024
UltraSolid:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/06/open-grazing-not-banned-in-se-our-govs-just-deceiving-us-ndigbo/
They have lot of problems.
Pride
Entitlement mentality
Dishing out what they can't take
Blaming others for their misfortune etc
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by Santalpharay: 1:10am On Dec 02, 2024
If we claim to be one Nigeria as our leaders always shout for our ears, then Nigeria should have a common interest. Which is how the whole Nigerians will survive no matter where you are. But no. Everyday it is North this, South East that. Southwest this and that. Divide this God forsaken country and let all the regions go their separate ways. I never see a confused people like these northern and south western people.
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by Magnumproperty: 1:18am On Dec 02, 2024
didymario7:
You are talking about the past, I am talking about the present, 2 totally different times. Do you think Cocoa can generate any meaningful revenue today? If Nigeria disintegrates today, Bayelsa will generate more money per capita than Lagos (if indeed you understand how Lagos makes it's money.)
The following countries have little or no oil production and they are far developed than Nigeria:
Luxembourg
Switzerland
Austria
Denmark
Belgium
Singapore
Japan. Etc (you can Google the rest)
We did it when there was no oil so why do you think we can't replicate it again if the Niger Delta decided to keep their oil? The human development index Obi is shouting up and down is what the Yorubas have been using right from the pre-colonial eras and that is what has been helping the Yorubas. Google Nigerian billionaires and count the number of Yorubas yourself in the chart. Yorubas don't make noise. Remove those that made their money from oil production and still see what you have left.
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by Atlantis585: 1:18am On Dec 02, 2024
Noise making is in their DNA.
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by Metrofox(m): 1:27am On Dec 02, 2024
I sell fairly used hammer 🔨
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by UltraSolid: 1:30am On Dec 02, 2024
Magnumproperty:
They have lot of problems.
Pride
Entitlement mentality
Dishing out what they can't take
Blaming others for their misfortune etc
You are so correct. Frightening people TBH. No better indicator of their identity as a people than the reality of the SE today whereby they are killing each other pretending to be seeking Biafra when the uncompromising demand they should bee making, if they are sincere, is for Igbos across Nigeria to move back to the SE and use all they have, be it cash or innovative ideas, to develop it.

To them, it is not obvious Nigerians see the insincerity, hypocrisy and duplicity of shouting Biafra daily yet Igbos have no issues with many of their folks being in the land of others, in the millions, to then use the money made from those places to sustain the SE.

No different to Northerners declaring alcohol evil yet happy to profit from the VAT derived from its sale.
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by Invest4growth: 1:49am On Dec 02, 2024
Nobody has itemized or convinced us that this is how this bill will cause problem for a zone. All is just grandstanding. What I know is It does not promote even development if Lagos State takes 17 percent of VAT revenues allocated to states. We have better managed and larger companies outside Lagos in other states. It is because we lack leadership in the states hence the economy is crumbling. They prefer dole out from Abuja. If the south west states can resuscitate all the moribund companies under Odua group alone, I am sure we would be back on track for development. All economic trees are being fell to build housing estates instead of creating agro allied industries to process raw materials. We need thinkers and doers not beggers in govt
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by Zooposki(f): 1:51am On Dec 02, 2024
Magnumproperty:
That is politics for you. And I'm not sure you are a chess player. If you are not, meet a professional to explain chess ♟️ moves to you.

During obasanjo reign; the North told him they want sharia law, he allowed them so that he can have his way for second term. How can we have two different constitutions in one country? That is politics for you.
Ok, he should pull out with South West. The South South will stay if we get the presidency. There will be no regional government nor resource control on our end since that is what a BAT presidency also means. Checkmate.
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by Maser: 2:02am On Dec 02, 2024
The arrogance and brashness of some of these Yorubas on top just four-year tenure as if they'll be there forever, forgetting that in four years they'll be going round the country to ask for votes again.
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by NuhuAjang71(m): 2:10am On Dec 02, 2024
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Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by UltraSolid: 2:25am On Dec 02, 2024
didymario7:
You are talking about the past, I am talking about the present, 2 totally different times. Do you think Cocoa can generate any meaningful revenue today? If Nigeria disintegrates today, Bayelsa will generate more money per capita than Lagos (if indeed you understand how Lagos makes it's money.)
Some of you, because of hatred for others, don't think things through before you talk. If Nigeria disintegrate today then, theoretically, every State and region will have total and full control of their assets, human and material, they can use to generate income.

How can anyone intelligent post that Bayelsa with a small population and 13% derivation, yet is one of the failed states of Nigeria today, possesses the potentials to have greater per capita income than any SW State?

People like you, as Countries like the UK and Germany shows, are yet to realize that socio-economic progress is optimally secured when decent human resource manages the capacity of an economy to make/earn money. Bayelsa fails, despite positive material resources endowment, because of poor human resources.


How long do you think it would take Yorubas to make SW States and region the Premier zone of Nigeria if they have full control over their human and material resources without FG and 'one Nigeria' retrogressive menace?

That is an expert talking below from many years ago. Not a feudal character, like you, who thinks lazily rather than respect facts and on-ground realities. Things have even moved on considerably, since he made the comments below, to make the SW the richest, most educated and premier region of Nigeria. Rather, the SW is being held back by Nigeria rather.

Take the region out of Nigeria and she will grow to be like Turkey, at the very least, in 10 years and probably the UK, with no crude oil and very scanty material resources, in 20 years.

https://www.gamji.com/article6000/NEWS7879.htm

South West Economy

South Western Nigeria with a Land Mass of 76,852 square kilometres and population of 25.2 million today owns and/or control 60% of the nation’s industrial capacity, 44% of banking assets, 67% of insurance assets and is house to the nation’s three deep sea ports of Apapa, Tin Can Island and Roro; the busiest international airport of Ikeja, three thermal stations of Egbin, Papalanto and Omotosho. Today, its three major industrial estates of Agbara, Ikeja and Otta are all linked to gas under the West African gas pipeline plan and piping of gas is ongoing from Otta to Abeokuta. Added to these, the South Western population today is the most educated as western education came through there and education as a resource was democratized since the early sixties. Geographical location, democratization of western education, availability of resources enhanced in last 9 years and some empowerment during the Obasanjo administration have collectively enabled the South Western economy to rank as first of the four economies in Nigeria. Today, the South West as a region can boast of having a defined growing middle class and is perceived to have at least 20,000 of its indigenes with net worth of over N100m each. Take it out of Nigeria, the South West economy with is defined growing middle class and resources, will be one of the fastest growing economies in the world.
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by Believeintruth: 3:03am On Dec 02, 2024
vowiski:
You don’t know Tinubu then cheesy

If this was Obi he will chicken out and cry on national TV. The bill is already an Act. Sorry, eh
Please why bring Obi into this? Has he said anything on this. Stop all this gaslighting to drag someone into something that he was not called into.
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by Free2Fly: 3:04am On Dec 02, 2024
aswani:
I am not even sure why any Southern or Middle belt politician will rally against this bold move.

I can see why Northern ones will scream and shout over it as their party is about to abruptly come to an end.

It will be tough and there must be a lot of political give and take before it hopefully goes through. It might even cost President Tinubu at the next elections sef.

Once it does though, the next step MUST be revocation of "oil blocks" especially those that Abacha and IBB were giving to people like Danjuma.

Sadly we have greedy Southern representatives on Abuja who will help scupper it fir their personal gain. Hopefully the electorate would wake up and start fighting back.
I love your quip about dividing zero too.
Which bold move?
This is a yoruba-sponsored bill meant to feed their selfish interests, seeing that lagos and ogùn states genertate more VATs because of their strategic advantages/locations.

This is not a bill you'll expect all southerners to support because they too, just like the north, will be victims of the reform.

Lagos wants to keep all its huge VATs, which every Nigerian directly or indirectly contributes to, while at the same time partake in sharing the revenues generated from the natural resources in other regions.

If the yorubas who are pushing for this bill are serious, they should go for full resource control.
I'm sure they won't do that.
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by Believeintruth: 3:08am On Dec 02, 2024
ivandragon:
The tax bill is not entirely bad. It should be properly debated, if need be, sent to all state houses of assemblies for input.

Aside from some areas I feel needs reviews, my main grouses are:

1. It is not far reaching enough when it comes to natural resource control. States whose main revenue base are natural resources still have thier resources controlled by the central government. It is not proper for a company whose main revenue is located in Rivers state to have its HQ in Abuja or Lagos and be paying a significant amount of its taxes there simply because it has a building there.

2. It does not introduce checks on corrupt people. Tax remittance is the easiest way to catch thieves. There must be a link from income to -assests- to tax.

Let's take for instance BAT... what business did he have that he was able to buy private jets? What is his income and how much does he remit as tax? If the jets are registered as business owned, then what businesses are those? What is thier annual income and how much tax do they pay?

This should go for all our so called rich men, even those with legitimate incomes. A musician buys cars worth N2bn at once. There is a need to check his income-assests-tax link. Doing this would seriously reduce the excessive display of wealth which is one of the reasons for corruption as people want to feel among at all cost.

3. The tax bill is yet to show the real positive impact on the masses. It is good that those earning less than N1m per annum would pay no income taxes, but the government is increasing vat. So how does that help? Giving with one hand and taking with another.
Thanks so much my friend. These are exactly my points with the bill. Glad someone also sees this.
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by Believeintruth: 3:10am On Dec 02, 2024
DomPerignon:
It's only SE legislators and their governors that are joining the north to kill this bill because just like the north, the SE is a basket case that depends on resources from other Southern states.
Let me challenge you now. Show me one SE legislators that has condemned this bill? None of them said anything oooo. It is only the north that has been shouting. Oya face the north, you must want to drag igbos into this. Oga what did igbos do to you?
Stop gaslighting them and face the north that is fighting you.
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by Believeintruth: 3:12am On Dec 02, 2024
aswani:
Why the heck should I care if President Tinubu kisses 2027 goodbye when I have never voted for him?

Why also would I care if a Yoruba person ruled Nigeria again?

He won't win APC nomination, he did.
He won't win the elections, he did.
He won't win in court, he did.
He won't be inaugurated, he was.

Now he won't win again. When are you going to stop with the failed predictions?

Finally, why are you aligning Ndigbo with Nd'ijaw? Where is the alliance coming from? In fact, as President Tinubu and Bubu proved (twice), you can be President of Nigeria without Ndigbo votes, never mind Ndijaw votes.
Oga stop mentioning igbos and talk to the person you claim you never voted him, but you are doing hatchet job for him here tacitly supporting him.
Oga stop the lies and indicate you voted him with your full chest and stop lying.
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by Believeintruth: 3:13am On Dec 02, 2024
aswani:
That will be dissapointing if the SE legislators don't see the sense in this. Maybe they are looking for something in return like Biafra which is fair enough.

I don't agree they are any more a basket case that depends on resources than other Southern states sha.

Takimg a closer look at this bill, you will see it a win win for all apart from lazy politicians who now have to work harder.
Mention one SE legislator that condemned the bill? You are following that unfortunate tout Dom Perignon that is trying to gaslight igbos.
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by Believeintruth: 3:14am On Dec 02, 2024
aswani:
That will be dissapointing if the SE legislators don't see the sense in this. Maybe they are looking for something in return like Biafra which is fair enough.

I don't agree they are any more a basket case that depends on resources than other Southern states sha.

Takimg a closer look at this bill, you will see it a win win for all apart from lazy politicians who now have to work harder.
Again this is where i have issues with you where is the link with Biafra on this bill. You guys always use this to attack igbo. Oga be very careful with this incitement.
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by Believeintruth: 3:15am On Dec 02, 2024
aswani:
You that you are sane, can you bring proof of the bribery or rigging?

By the way, if Peter Obi had lost Lagos state, you wouldn't have batted an eyelid. Shows how badly the rigging was.

Of course SW standing on its own is irrelevant too, that is why President Tinubu formed his alliance.

You said he has lost support of the North, let's see how badly APC do in oncoming elections before 2027.

Ndi Yoruba are licking Ndi North butt yet they are President with a lot of ministerial and other important federal roles under their belt.

Ndigbo that voted PDP day and night, what did they get in PDP governments?
How sure are you that the person is an igno person. Why must you mention igbo in this?
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by Believeintruth: 3:17am On Dec 02, 2024
UltraSolid:
You lot love empty noise. Yorubas are not the mates of any other in Nigeria today.. Especially not Igbos and Ijaws with all due respect to all good Igbo and Ijaw folks. Home and abroad, we are the A to Z of all that is good and positive about Nigeria. You cannot threaten the Goose that lays the golden eggs. Without the Goose, Nigeria will be nothing.

If Yoruba Governors (see my second attached image) moved unitedly and bravely, without any fear at all, to demand regional autonomy from President Buhari, their own Party leader in 2021, at a time Fulanis were firmly in charge of Nigeria and doing as they pleased unchallenged, what will same Yorubas now do when they see foul play against President Tinubu and, by extension, all Yorubas?

Fulanis want to lead independently and unchallenged as they wish when in charge of the Presidency, bullying all other Nigerians into silence, yet they wish to give conditions to a Southern President, telling him/her what to do and what not to do, as if Yorubas and other Southerners exist at the pleasure of Northerners who are the weakest link, by far, in the Nigerian socio-economic chain.

Buhari did a lot of contentious and controversial things that only Yorubas stood up to challenge while the biggest noise-makers, I.e Igbos, hid under their beds. If the Yorubas can do that when they did not control the centre (see second image below) the same people will now allow anyone, especially the North that largely had it's way unchallenged under Buhari, to rubiish Tinubu? Let's be watching na.

Yorubas are triggered and ready. We all know where this is heading. The North, that is a dead zone full of terrorism, illiteracy, fundamentalist violence and unproductive elements thatcontributes 87% of human beings to the most poverty stricken Nigerians, can try to take on the goose that lays the golden egg. It then becomes an existentialist fight for the control of Nigeria. Let us see who wins. Yorubas are not irredeemable materialistic,covetous and money-obsessed like Igbo who cannot stand up for what is right because their kobo is threatened. History bears this out about us.

There is silent anger in the soul of most Yorubas over the sad reality of how long regressive and backwards forces have won, to keep us uncivilised and 'third world', in the midst of so much blessing from God that means we should be doing much better.

Yorubas won't compromise anymore because we now realise we have to take a stand to fight and defeat the forces of regression or run the risk of many generations of our children being born into 'One Nigeria' slavery. We have the Presidency now. If the North won't allow us to use it progressively, and they wish to fight every benevolent policy of Tinubu, while Buhari did as he pleased for 8 years, then Yorubas will become the successful advocates of the split of Nigeria where the insincere Igbos have failed for decades with their Biafra empty noise.

If Yorubas down tools, what hope for Nigeria? North has to compromise, become progressive, less parasitic and shape up. As simple as that. No be fight unless they want to make it one and Yorubas will show the world we are ready.
Mention what Buhari did that Yorubas challenged and igbo kept mute? Did Tinubu challenge Buhair when herdsmen were sacking your villagers and turning you to IDPs in Benin Republic? Oga stop being stupid.
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by Free2Fly: 3:17am On Dec 02, 2024
Zooposki:
You are not from Niger delta. I read some of your old threads. Why do you guys like pretending to be us?
Shut up, you annoying rat,
Niger delta is not a geopolitical region.
It's made up of 9-10 states, including Imo, Abia, Anambra, Ondo states, plus the 6states in the SS, which are oil producing states.
SS is not equal to Niger delta region, it's just a part of it.
You ediots are so dumb that you'll always leave your main enemies & battles to fight over insignificant battles.

The Niger Delta is the delta of the Niger River sitting directly on the Gulf of Guinea on the Atlantic Ocean in Nigeria.[1][2] It is located within nine coastal southern Nigerian states, which include: all six states from the South South geopolitical zone, one state (Ondo) from South West geopolitical zone and two states (Abia and Imo) from South East geopolitical zone.


Map of Nigeria numerically showing states typically considered part of the Niger Delta region: 1. Abia, 2. Akwa Ibom, 3. Bayelsa, 4. Cross River, 5. Delta, 6. Edo, 7.Imo, 8. Ondo, 9. Rivers
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by Believeintruth: 3:18am On Dec 02, 2024
UltraSolid:
Lol. We shall see na. Your kind are yet to understand that "man pass man". The only Southerners the North respect and fear are the Yorubas. Go and learn the factual history of Nigeria. verified in historical reportage, and stop coming here to expose yourself an ignorant olodo.
Bros forget nothing will happen if that bill doesn't pass. You cannot threaten anyone, the greatest mistake Yorubas will make is to attempt any secession now.
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by Believeintruth: 3:20am On Dec 02, 2024
chopnaira:
They are parasites.
Then let them go
Re: Ọbabìnrin Adérónkẹ́ Threatens To Break Nigeria If North Kills Tax Reform Bills by MichaelSokoto(m): 3:21am On Dec 02, 2024
Frigga13:
grin

Someone should remind us IBB on Yoruba people again grin
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