₦airaland Forum

JagabanBorgu:
Do you realize that Nigeria was existing before oil was discovered?
Do you even realize that Nigeria will be more prosperous without oil?
If regional govt is instituted today, I'm sure places like Bayelsa will be so back even with loads of oil.

Weed talk
.. like telling Qatar they will suffer without oil

Oaf...better shut up your mouth there...

Habbeyy:
He was talking in parable, he was just shading the north

I swear but some people don't really under him. The moment I saw the headline, I know what he did straight up

Dittodat:
Barren? The only barren region is the erosion ravaged cannibalism land in the Eastern zoological society of Nigeria.

Leave the east and face the SS guy that attacked you. Inferiority complex will always make you attack igbo. Haaaa try get sense and stop being stupid.

Georgry:
You and so many people here are sounding so dumb, the part of the bill that is causing controversy is not related to Paye or Company tax, it is the Value added tax which will now base exclusively on consumption so the more you consume the more you get, for example Dangote Cement in Kogi State currently pay their company income tax to Nigeria, the staffs will pay their Paye to the Kogi State government while the Vat will be paid to Lagos because they have their headquarters there, if this bill is passed the company tax and paye remains the same but for vat, they will have to track which state each shipment is going to and pay the tax to the state, that also goes for each and every biscuit produced by Yale and each and every Alcohol produced from Ogun state, the Vat on any Wine you drink will now be remitted to your state of residence which means the North will get zero naira vat from Alcohol business, sound fair to me.

For Alcohol business party of the raw materials like sorghum are sourced from the north and VAT on agricultural items was removed. I don't see the equity if the north gets zero VAT from alcohol.

Ride on Sir


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Flame333:
Weed talk
.. like telling Qatar they will suffer without oil

Seriously that one don wose Colorado

Biodun556:
He said kainkain money should go to kainkain drinkers

And you know, some hypocrite holier than thou don't want kain kain, but want Kain Kain money

Onovo3:
That is not true. The oil companies does their PAYE Tax from Lagos where their office is. The actual exploration and production activities takes place in the Niger Delta. Lagos takes all the PAYE tax of the IOC

Lagos state can't take PAYE for all the workers , if such thing happen that means Your state government are dumb, sorry to say that.. I work with an offshore servicing company that have their headquarter in Lagos State but our main facility is here in Ogun State, in Ogun State alone the company I work with have like 100 staff and these staff pay their PAYE to Ogun state Government.... because I still have my tax card till today... only the few workers that resume to Lagos office that pay to Lagos office

Arobaga:
Kain main money you said



If Bayelsians say they wanna go their seperate ways from Nigeria una go begin beg



You’re insulting a region that gives your barren region food to eat and fuel to drive



Una no go respect una helpers and providers now

Focus on your South East

Onovo3:
He is making sense

The bill doesn't give Bayelsa money to Lagos. He is just being a petty politician that he is.

Arobaga:
Kain main money you said



If Bayelsians say they wanna go their seperate ways from Nigeria una go begin beg



You’re insulting a region that gives your barren region food to eat and fuel to drive



Una no go respect una helpers and providers now

No part of the country is barren, it's the oil from the south south that makes other part of the country not to tap into their God given natural resources,If bayelsa goes their way today,I bet you it will only take two or three years of struggling for other regions to stand on their feet.

Onovo3:
Yes, they pay their tax in Lagos because they have their office there, when actual production is taking place in Niger Delta. This is a big scam Lagos people don't want to talk about.

And this is what the bill is intended to curb.

Arobaga:
Kain main money you said



If Bayelsians say they wanna go their seperate ways from Nigeria una go begin beg



You’re insulting a region that gives your barren region food to eat and fuel to drive



Una no go respect una helpers and providers now

I hope it is not South west you dey call barren land.

Are you high on something?

You kids should be consulting your fathers in your various villages before throwing shades o.
Make dem lecture your empty mendular before you utter words.

All the First in Nigeria Institutions were done by Awolowo with the Resources of the SW. Not Oil Money.
Cocoa and Palm oil were the key resources.

To mention a few

NWTV now NTA (first TV in Africa)
The Tallest Sky scrapper in West Africa till the 80s Cocoa House in Ibadan.
Liberty Stadium the first Stadium in Nigeria

I fit dey mention am dey go.

Where your region dey when SW was pulling these fits.

Abegi dey consult your elders for village o

Ritchiee:
Watching channels now.
Nassarawa governor(virtually), former speaker,Hon. Yakubu Dogara etc present.All supported the bill after a lengthy explanation from Mr Taiwo Oloyede.
Lagos takes more than 80% vat now but the proposed new Lagos vat will be 15% while Kano receiving 0.86% will now be 6.something% and all states except Lagos and Rivers will be collecting more vat in the proposed tax bill.
I think the people who generated these tax bills are geniuses.
Within a year or two,Nigeria will be a real success.

Na only you follow trend well jare my brother.

Ritchiee:
Watching channels now.
Nassarawa governor(virtually), former speaker,Hon. Yakubu Dogara etc present.All supported the bill after a lengthy explanation from Mr Taiwo Oloyede.
Lagos takes more than 80% vat now but the proposed new Lagos vat will be 15% while Kano receiving 0.86% will now be 6.something% and all states except Lagos and Rivers will be collecting more vat in the proposed tax bill.
I think the people who generated these tax bills are geniuses.
Within a year or two,Nigeria will be a real success.

lie,lie, you don see mugu, sorry you missed your lane, so Lagos will loss such amount and keep silent, dey play.

The squabbles over Tax Reforms practically put truth to Seccessionists' claim that this union called Nigeria has overstayed as a nation...!


This is also why we can't even agree over things that will move the nation forward starting from Elections.

Every policy has to be viewed through the lens of ethnicity...!

blacksam01:
Very very true... Let it extent to all form of national revenue... Including oil earning.. not only where tinubu's Lagos have comparative advantage...

It should not b about only VAT, also all oil earnings also... Let's the argument begin

See this uninformed fool. Can you clearly explain what the tax bill is all about without mentioning Tinubu?

This is the kind of creepy humans that will come on social media to just shout Tinubu when they cant explain jack. Tinubu sent the bill to the NATIONAL ASSEMBLY and several INFORMED POLITICIANS are in support of the bill.

Angelfrost:
The squabbles over Tax Reforms practically put truth to Seccessionists' claim that this union called Nigeria has overstayed as a nation...!


This is also why we can't even agree over things that will move the nation forward starting from Elections.

Every policy has to be viewed through the lens of ethnicity...!

lol, this is the main reason the black nations with multi ethnic society will never ever grow in life. If na whites, they for don desolve the union since. Whites are superior when it comes to sense.

Onovo3:
He is making sense

No sense...All money/land/resources belong to the fg

Onovo3:
Nope, Oil companies/IOC should pay their tax to the oil producing states, and not where their office is located. QED

..it's true because their headquarters office is located in Lagos..so Lagos benefits a lot than the other states that are producing the fuel

Softmirror:
Lol 😂😂😂😂

E-diot! See how you make me yaff sotey I forget my blokos for Nairaland.

Abeg, wetin dem de talk for de foto nah?

Softmirror:
Lol 😂😂😂😂

E-diot! See as you make me yaff sotey I forget my blokos for Nairaland.

Abeg, wetin dem de talk for de foto nah?

its the reverse, you are chopping lagos money

Habbeyy:
He was talking in parable, he was just shading the north

..also talking about Lagos benefitting more from the tax than other states in which where the products,goods was bought and consumed.. because the head quarters of the office and companies are in Lagos

Gbam. Instead of restoring fiscal federalism with resourse control, Tinubu and his people want to grab more from proceeds from crude oil in the Niger delta region, as the oil company headquarters are in Lagos.

I work as an operations manager of a company Anambra State, my taxes are remitted to Lagos state government because, our company HQ is in Lagos, this is not right at all, my taxes should be paid to Anambra State government, cuz na dem dey provide the basic amenities i dey enjoy.

blacksam01:
Very very true... Let it extent to all form of national revenue... Including oil earning.. not only where tinubu's Lagos have comparative advantage...

It should not b about only VAT, also all oil earnings also... Let's the argument begin

There is 13% derivation for Oil already... it can be increased though.
The question, however, is, what have they been doing with the 13% derivation? Those states should be richer than some countries by now. Unfortunately, even ordinary infrastructure, they haven't been able to provide for their people. We all know why...

Arobaga:
Kain main money you said



If Bayelsians say they wanna go their seperate ways from Nigeria una go begin beg



You’re insulting a region that gives your barren region food to eat and fuel to drive



Una no go respect una helpers and providers now

Understand one thing. This oil you people are using to blackmail everybody. It is the north causing all this nonsense o!

1: the oil sector is only about 15% of our El economy.
2: it is only because the govt has become lazy and oil became our largest source of govt and forex revenues that the oil sector became a big deal.

3:other regions including the North were developing their regions just fine before without oil money before the 1967 coup that derailed

4: this tax bill is a first step towards true fiscal federalism and it is my hope that it ultimately leads to everyone controlling their resources including the SS. The North has the potential to dwarf the oil income from the SS more than tenfold. The North has the potential to easily make the money from oil in livestock and associated industries alone. Talk less crops and mining.

5: I need not explain the potential of the SW

If I were you I would be concerned that your leaders do not misuse the coming windfall because so far we have not seen anything they have done with the one they have gotten.

I wrote a piece about this earlier reproduced below:

casualobserver:
My concern though is that some governors in the short term will not capitalize on their increased revenue.

2: I was a bit disappointed with One aspect of Senator Dickson’s interview where he said he wants the workers who the oil companies fly in to Bayelsa to pay their taxes in Bayelsa. People pay heir taxes where they are resident not where they work. The reason workers are flown in is because they deem Bayelsa uncondusive for living. Why would I want to endanger my life every week in a helicopter if there are good housing estates, good schools, good roads, hospitals, cinema, shopping malls etc in Bayelsa where I work? I would have thought his focus would be on how to make Bayelsa a residential destination that will attract professionals and premium residents from other walks of life not just oil workers.

So you see apart from the fact that yes states will get more, we need to interrogate the type of governors and local govt chairmen we elect because they may just fritter away all the gains in the short term though I believe in time they will start competing with each other.

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If I were you I would focus on my governors and elected officials because if there is one state with oil money with nothing to show for it, it is Bayelsa! It’s not like they don’t receive good money as it stands even if it is below their entitlement as owners of the oil. Despite the looting, we see legacy projects in Rivers, Akwa Ibom, cross river etc . Tinapa, Obudu, Akwa Ibom stadium, aviation FBO, monorail, Akwa Ibom roads, PH roads, etc etc. You never hear anything of note from Bayelsa!!! Is it not the same 13% derivation you are collecting?

Onovo3:
That is not true. The oil companies does their PAYE Tax from Lagos where their office is. The actual exploration and production activities takes place in the Niger Delta. Lagos takes all the PAYE tax of the IOC

..so where the exploration and production of crude oil is done in those Niger Delta states..so the state governors does not collect any form of tax from those oil companies..?

You are right. Your dry state will do better than Bayelsa that has load of oil. If the offshore sharing revenues formulas is properly resolved, Bayelsa will feed your region. Bayelsa oil are mostly located in offshore and shallow water, the offshore laws give the federal government the soul operators of any oil Well operating offshore, swamp and shallow water

JagabanBorgu:
Do you realize that Nigeria was existing before oil was discovered?
Do you even realize that Nigeria will be more prosperous without oil?
If regional govt is instituted today, I'm sure places like Bayelsa will be so back even with loads of oil.

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Onovo3:
Where is the the payroll organised from ? Is it the creeks of the Niger Delta ? HR and the admins are all based in Lagos and they organised the payroll and PAYE tax from Lagos. Remember Sen. Dickson was a governor, and he knows the grave injustice that was done to the oil producing states

You are ignorant and you are insisting on continuing in ignorance.

PAYE is based on residents.
Shell for instance have staffs paying their taxes to Lagos for its lagos staff, there are staffs paying to delta for warri staff, there are staff paying to Rivers for Portharcourt based staff and there are some staff paying to Bayelsa because they work in Bayelsa State locations of the company.
Even a few SNG staff pays to Abia and a few to ogun State due being based in aba and ota respectively.!