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MaxInDHouse:
Respond to the OP!

lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max

i don't take orders from you satans mob oh dum one
and continue running away from the truths i post:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught

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"Napoleon began this Egyptian campaign in 1798, ... and being completed in 1799, marks, according to the Prophet's own words, the beginning of the "time of the end". The Harp of God (1921) pp.228,229

"The time of the end" embraces a period from A.D. 1799, as above indicated, to the time of the complete overthrow of Satan's empire and the establishment of the kingdom of the Messiah." The Harp of God p.231

"Twelve-hundred sixty years from A.D. 539 brings us to 1799-another proof that 1799 definitely marks the beginning of "the time of the end"." The Harp of God p.230

"How is the beginning of the “time of the end” definitely fixed at 1799 A. D.?" The Harp of God p.269

"This great increase in knowledge and the tremendous running to and fro of the people in various parts of the earth without question is a fulfilment of the prophecy testifying as to "the time of the end"." The Harp of God p.234

It is amusing to see the lengthy list of inventions The Harp of God used as proof that the 1800's was the time of the end. The locomotive and "flying machine" (p.231) were considered fulfilment of the "day of God's preparation" spoken of in Nahum 2:1-6. Evidence the Lord's presence commenced 1874 included - adding machines, aeroplanes, aluminium, antiseptic surgery, artificial dyes, automatic couplers, automobiles, barbed wire, bicycles, carborundum, cash registers, celluloid, correspondence schools, cream separators, Darkest Africa, fireless cookers, shoe-sewing machines, the telegraph, the telephone, Panama Canal, Pasteurization, and vacuum cleaners (page 235).

This teaching continued throughout the nineteen twenties in other publications.

"The indisputable facts, therefore, show that the "time of the end" began in 1799; that the Lord's second presence began in 1874." Watchtower 1922 Mar 1 p.73


at 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

The OP!
There are many religions and in fact religion is as old as mankind on planet earth but with all the nations in ancient times being in one religion/form of worship or another everyone is saying "God is one"
Are you of the opinion that religions are like different roads leading to the same destination or there is a particular religion that God approves?
What should we expect from the religion that's approved by God?

I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

MaxInDHouse:
Why is it so difficult for many religionists to talk about their own faith as a unique group did in the first century but always rushing to criticize what a unique religion teaches? Act 13:50; 14:2, 19; 17:13

Jesus did not set up religious hierarchies with 501c3 tax-exempt status. The pharisaical criminals posing as "religious leaders" are the ones who use weedy doctrines and leavenous teachings to lord it over the flock in an ungodly way. There are many religious institutions that follow in the footsteps of the wicked Sanhedrin. Watchtower is just one of them. Jesus said when he comes back he'd expose those wolves in sheep's covering. In the meantime, he told us we could recognize them by means of their hypocrisy, and he told us to expose those naughty wolves for what they were.

JW Watchtower War Crimes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rreJX7OTqo8

So those who gladly accepted his word were baptized, and on that day about 3,000 people were added. And they continued devoting themselves to the teaching of the apostles, to associating together, to the taking of meals, and to prayers. Act 2:41-42

Which religion today is practicing what these people did in the first century?

giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught

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"Napoleon began this Egyptian campaign in 1798, finished it, and then returned to France on October 1, 1799. The campaign is briefly, yet graphically described in the prophecy, verses 40-44; and its being completed in 1799 marks, according to the prophet's own words, the beginning of "the time of the end. Twelve hundred and sixty years from 539 A.D. brings us to 1799, which is another proof that 1799 definitely marks the beginning of "the time of the end." This also shows that it is from the date 539 A.D. that the other prophetic days of Daniel must be counted." Creation (1927) 2,175,000 ed. p.293

"These physical facts cannot be disputed and are sufficient to convince any reasonable mind that we have been in "the time of the end" since 1799." The Harp of God p.234

Then as now, Watchtower resorted to insult, with Rutherford indicating above that a person is not of "reasonable mind" if they do not believe the time of the end started in 1799. Today, a Witness that does not believe 1914 was the start of the end is labelled as apostate or even the antichrist and disfellowshipped.


at 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

They have to pay uninvited visits to neighbors at their homes preaching and teaching them what Jesus taught about God's Kingdom! Matthew 10:11-13

Which religion is doing this today?

giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught

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1829

1829 was the start of the Miller movement, as supposedly prophesied by the 1290 days of Daniel 12:11. This was 1290 years from the beginning of papal rule in 539 A.D, as explained in Studies in the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come p.84 and Studies in the Scriptures - The Finished Mystery pp.40, 60, 163.

"The Prophet Daniel's statement that "the wise shall understand" apparently refers to the end of the 1290 days mentioned in the same chapter. This period terminated in 1829. Shortly after 1829 the message of the nearness of the Second Advent of Christ began especially to be promulgated by William Miller. As a result of the exaltation of the Word of God, certain doctrines were brought forth in a very prominent way." Watchtower 1914 Nov 1 p.326

1840

Sounding of the Seventh Trumpet.

"The seventh trumpet sounds from Aug. 1840, until "the time of trouble," or day of wrath is ended. Hence, it doubtless ends with the times of the Gentiles, and this forty years of conquest; and therefore, sounds until A. D. 1914; at the end of which, Babylon the great, will have fallen, and the "dragon" be bound: that is, the nations will be subdued, and "the prince of this world cast out."" Three Worlds and the Harvest of This World (1877) p.27


at 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

The world has singled them out as the only group that's not flowing along with their confusion! Matthew 5:14-16

giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught

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1844

This was a key date for the Adventist movement. In the early 1800's John Aquila Brown taught that the Daniel chapter 8 prophecy of 2,300 days ended in 1844. Miller took up this theme and said that the end of the world would come in this year. When it did not Miller renounced his teaching but the Adventists stuck to it. They reinterpreted it to be the start of the time of the end and that the end would be 1874. This did not occur either.

In the 1870's Russell became interested in time prophecy. He followed Barbour's concept that the 1700 and 1800 dates put forward by the Adventists were correct; it was the understanding of what was going to happen that was wrong. Studies in the Scriptures Series 2 p.240 discusses Russell's understanding of 1844.

1846

The Sanctuary was cleansed in 1846, another understanding of the end of the 2,300 day prophecy. The cleansing was meant to be when G. Storrs abandoned false doctrines. Storrs was one of the preachers that Russell took his doctrines from. This is discussed in Studies in the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come p.108 and Studies in the Scriptures - The Finished Mystery p.163.

"The 2,300 days point to 1846 as the time when God's sanctuary would be cleansed of the defiling errors and principles of Papacy; and we have noted the cleansing there accomplished." Studies In the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come p.306


at 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

And just as millions of Jews thought Jesus is fake because his messages are not easily understood {John 6:64-66} his modern day followers are also called false prophets due to difficulty in grasping their message but just as no one can present a better messiah than Jesus of Nazareth no modern day critic can present a better performing group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 54:17

MaxInDHouse:
And just as millions of Jews thought Jesus is fake because his messages are not easily understood {John 6:64-66} his modern day followers are also called false prophets due to difficulty in grasping their message

lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max

really most dum one, it's very easy grasping your false prophecies, i have posted many and will post more for you soon
1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

MaxInDHouse: but just as no one can present a better messiah than Jesus of Nazareth no modern day critic can present a better performing group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 54:17

very dum false jw, any group that don't habitually lie and blaspheme and are not paranoid as you people are,
is a better performing group than you so called Jehovah's witnesses:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

No brighter light could be found! Matthew 5:14-16

MaxInDHouse:
No brighter light could be found! Matthew 5:14-16

very dum lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max

that is obviously not talking of false jw's false prophets,
or blasphemers, or habitual liars, or the fearfully paranoid,
is it oh fraud jw:

at 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Jehovah declared His organized worshipers "HOLY" which means PURE.

Just as the daylight in the sky which can never be replaced neither can anyone find a brighter light than the sky yet if we are to look intently at the sky we will find lots of dark spots that is exactly what Jehovah is saying about His organized worshipers nobody can present a better performing group than God's people because they are like the sky: the light of the world! Matthew 5:14-16

MaxInDHouse:
Jehovah declared His organized worshipers "HOLY" which means PURE.
Just as the daylight in the sky which can never be replaced neither can anyone find a brighter light than the sky yet if we are to look intently at the sky we will find lots of dark spots that is exactly what Jehovah is saying about His organized worshipers nobody can present a better performing group than God's people because they are like the sky: the light of the world! Matthew 5:14-16

truly lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max

false jw's false prophecies and lies and paranoia and blasphemy etc. is not light but darkness, oh dum as they come false jw

at 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught

jwfacts..com


1873

1873 was the year that Second Adventists and Russell thought the 6,000 years of creation had ended.

"We are already living in the seventh millennium - since October 1872" Studies In the Scriptures - The Time Is At Hand 1915 ed. p.363

"Here we furnish the evidence that from the creation of Adam to A.D. 1873 was six thousand years. And though the Bible contains no direct statement that the seventh thousand will be the epoch of Christ's reign, the great Sabbath Day of restitution to the world, yet the venerable tradition is not without reasonable foundation. If, then, the seventh thousand-year period of earth's history be an epoch specially noted as the period of Christ's reign, we shall, by showing that it began in A.D. 1873, be proving that we are already in it." Studies In the Scriptures - The Time Is At Hand 1915 ed. p.39

"Looking back to 1871, we see that many of our company were what are known as Second Adventists, and the light they held briefly stated, was that there would be a second advent of Jesus-- that he would come to bless and immortalize the saints, to judge the world and to burn up the world and all the wicked. This, they claimed would occur in 1873, because the 6,000 years from the creation of Adam were complete then." Zion's Watch Tower 1881 Feb p.3

This began the reign of Christ and the period of darkness on the earth. The signs of the last days were apparently proven by the start of political systems such as Socialism, Communism and Nihilism. Studies in the Scriptures - The Finished Mystery The Watchtower did not change their workings on the 6,000 years until 1943, when they started to say that due to inaccuracies in the King James Bible they had wrongly stated 1873 and that the 6,000 years actually ended in 1975. (See Proclaimers footnote p.133)


at 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

The light of the world {Matthew 5:14-16} no other group stand close!

giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught

jwfacts..com



1874

1874 was a key date for Russell. In many ways, 1874 was to Russell what 1914 is to Jehovah's Witnesses today. 1874 was the time of the second coming or second advent, the start of Jesus' invisible presence, the start of the harvest work and the beginning of the time for the generation that would see the end.

"The second advent of our Lord in the end or harvest of the Gospel age, occurring in the fall of 1874, proves to be at a point of time exactly parallel to the time of his first advent, in the end of the Jewish age. ... the Jubilee Cycles show October 1874 to be the date of our Lord s return. ... While the time-prophecies thus point to and harmonize with 1874 as the date of our Lord s second presence, assuring us of the fact with mathematical precision, we find ourselves overwhelmed with evidence of another character; for certain peculiar signs, foretold by the Lord and the apostles and prophets, which were to precede his coming, are now clearly recognised as actually fulfilled. ... The cleansing of the sanctuary was also accomplished as predicted, and at a time sufficiently in advance of 1874 to make ready "a people prepared for the Lord" a people in devout expectancy of his coming"" The Time of the Harvest (1911 ed.) pp.125,127,129

"... the beginning of the harvest period, in the fall of 1874." The Time of the Harvest (1911 ed.) p.234

"So short a time ago as 1870 we saw, in addition to the first principles of the Gospel, only the two bare facts - the Lord's second coming and the Restitution - and these but vaguely; for though we then saw restitution taught in Scripture, we were much in doubt as to its comprehensiveness, questioning often whether it would include all the billions of the dead whom the god of this world had in the present life blinded. And concerning the Lord's second coming, while we realized that he is no longer a man, but is now the new creature--the express image of the Father's person-- a quickening spirit, yet we failed somehow to make a proper application of this to his second coming, and unthinkingly and ignorantly, rather expected his coming to be as a glorified man, than as a spiritual being. It was not until about 1874 that these things became clearer, so that we realized that when Jesus should come, it would be as unobserved by human eyes as though an angel had come; and that it could be known only by some miracle, by some manifestation or demonstration....

more on 1874 to continue



at 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

The only ORIGINAL besides which no FAKE could be mentioned!

studying the Bible with so called Jehovah's witnesses is studying the Bible with false teachers/false prophets:

from jwfacts..com


From 1904 onward, Watchtower articles show Russell changed the start of Armageddon to be 1914.

There was a great deal of Scriptural "proof" used to show Jesus' presence began in 1874, such as:

The end of the jubilee cycles (Zion's Watch Tower 1881 January).
It was the end of 6000 years after creation
Daniel's prophecy of the 1335 days. This was interpreted to mean 1335 years after papal rule had started in 539 AD. Historical years were changed and adjusted in order to fit the year to the prophecy.
Russell followed Barbour's idea that the Adventists were wrong to think the end of the world would be 1874 as this was just 30 years from 1844. As a generation is 70 years, the end of the world itself would not be until 1914. This fitted nicely with Barbour's understanding of the seven times.

It is interesting that prophecies vigorously used today to point to special events in the 1900's were used to point to completely different events in the 1800's. Even the methodology to work out these prophecies has changed. For instance, the 1335 days were said to represent years, now we are supposed to believe they represent lunar days; that is, about 1320 solar days! These prophecies are meant to strengthen faith in the Watchtower interpretation of the Bible, when they are obviously being used to fit any situation the Watchtower Society desires.



Pro 14:5  A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.

The one and only mountain standing tall above all others beside which no hills could be mentioned! Isaiah 2:2 compare to Matthew 5:14-16

giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught

from jwfacts..com


"The Scriptural proof is that the period of his presence and the day of God's preparation is a period from 1874 A.D. forward. The second coming of the Lord, therefore, began in 1874; and that date and the years 1914 and 1918 are specially marked dates with reference to his coming. Prophecy can not be understood until it has been fulfilled or is in the course of fulfillment. From 1874 to 1914 the prophecy concerning the Lord's coming was being fulfilled and could be understood, and was understood, by those who were faithful to the Lord and who were watching the development of events, but not by others."Creation 1927 2,175,000 ed. p.289

The Harp of God contains many references to 1874 in both the 1921 and 1928 editions. The 1927 edition of Creation uses inventions from 1874 onwards as evidence of the Lord's presence since that date. These included:

"But mention is made of some of those things that have come to light since 1874, as a further evidence of the Lord's presence since that date, as follows: Adding machines, aeroplanes, aluminium, antiseptic surgery, artificial dyes, automatic couplers, automobiles, barbed wire, bicycles, carborundum, cash registers, celluloid, cream separators, disc plows, electric railways, electric welding, elevators, escalators, fireless cookers, gas engines, harvesting machines, illuminating gas, induction motors, linotypes, monotypes, motion pictures, pasteurization, radium, railway signals, Roentgen rays, skyscrapers, smokeless powder, submarines, subways, talking machines, telephones, television, typewriters, vacuum cleaners, wireless telegraphy and wireless telephony." Creation 1927 2,175,000 ed. p.297

1874 was not dropped as the start of the second coming until the 1930s, when articles such as the following started to be released.

"The prophecy of the Bible, fully supported by the physical facts in fulfilment thereof, shows that the second coming of Christ dates from the fall of the year 1914." What is Truth? (1932) p.48

1874 was not removed entirely from Watchtower doctrine until 1943, when a change in how the 6000 years were calculated meant it could no longer be used as the end of the 6000 years. (see God's Kingdom on a Thousand Years Has Approached p.209)

The Society generally glosses over its history and wrong interpretations. However, some of the excuses it provides for these errors are quite shocking;

"According to an inaccurate chronology that had been worked out from the King James Authorized Version Bible, Russell calculated Christ's "presence" had begun in the year 1874 C.E., unseen to human eyes and seen only by the eye of faith." Man's Salvation Out Of World Distress At Hand (1975) p.287

Is indicating that God allowed the Bible to come down to us incorrectly really the best way to exonerate Russell's wrong teachings? Doesn't this raise more problems than it answers?



Pro 14:5  A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.

MaxInDHouse:
The one and only mountain standing tall above all others beside which no hills could be mentioned! Isaiah 2:2 compare to Matthew 5:14-16

Jehovah promised that the enemies of truth will be silenced {Isaiah 54:17} praise Jehovah they kept complaining about God's organized people but can they present a better performing group?
NO!

MaxInDHouse:
Jehovah promised that the enemies of truth will be silenced {Isaiah 54:17} praise Jehovah they kept complaining about God's organized people but can they present a better performing group?
NO!

oh duh very dum lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit

any group that doesn't habitually lie or blaspheme and isn't paranoid etc.
is a better performing group than you false jehovah's witnesses

false jw's
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

paranoia is fear
rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

your blasphemy is unforgivable
Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

your final destination
Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

johnw47:
any group

Ntor!

Any group is NO group!

MaxInDHouse:
Ntor!
Any group is NO group!

lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max

lie and fool yourself from now to the lake of fire oh dum dum
but truly any group that doesn't habitually lie or blaspheme and isn't paranoid etc.
is a better performing group than you false jehovah's witnesses

false jw's
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

paranoia is fear
rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

your blasphemy is unforgivable
Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

your final destination
Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

MaxInDHouse:
https://www.nairaland.com/8286373/let-there-light-genesis-1

lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max

https://www.nairaland.com/8286373/let-there-light-genesis-1#133180565

johnw47:
lost blasphemer of the Holy Spirit mad max
https://www.nairaland.com/8286373/let-there-light-genesis-1#133180565

No brighter light could be found!

PLEASE TELL US THE MEANING OF RELIGION AS YOU KNOW IT AND ITS RELATIONSHIP WITH MAXIMUM.

giving false prophecies and false date settings is not the religion practising what Jesus taught

from jwfacts..com


Rapture or Heavenly Resurrection

Russell expected he and his followers would be raptured to heaven in 1878.

In January 1876, Charles Russell read a copy of Barbour's publication Herald of the Morning. This explained that Jesus had returned invisibly in 1874, and the Rapture would occur in 1878. As the kingdom had not come to earth in 1874 as predicted by Second Adventists, Barbour started to preach that Jesus arrived invisibly in 1874, (exactly the same justification used years later by Rutherford to explain why the kingdom did not manifest itself in 1914.) Russell was deeply influenced by Barbour and started to fund Barbour's publication, believing his resurrection to heaven would be only two years away.

"1878 ... They also thought they would be given their heavenly reward at that time." Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p. 632

"Then Pastor Russell explains an erroneous view that had been held by all up to this point. Based on Paul's statement at 1 Corinthians 15:51, 52, it had been expected "that at some time the living saints would be suddenly and miraculously caught away bodily, thenceforth to be forever with the Lord." Believing this would take place in 1878, some were disappointed because nothing occurred that they could see. However, Pastor Russell was led to a reexamination of the scripture and realized that their "mistake lay in expecting to see all the living saints changed at once, and without dying - an erroneous view shared in by the whole nominal church, and one which we had not yet observed or discarded." Jehovah's Witnesses in the Divine Purpose (1959) p.19


Pro 14:5  A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.