What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? - Christianity Etc (4)

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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 3:40pm On Dec 05, 2024

Michael547:
So are you saying that Jesus was both the Father and Yahweh?

That place is showing Jesus and the father are one just like your soul and your body is one

I don't think you even read it properly do you even read bible or you only think what your teachers says

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Michael547(m): 3:42pm On Dec 05, 2024

Kingsnairaland:
That place is showing Jesus and the father are one just like your soul and your body is one

I don't think you even read it properly do you even read bible or you only think what your teachers says

Is Jesus the Father and Yahweh? Yes or no?

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 3:42pm On Dec 05, 2024

sonmvayina:
This Psalm was written by David and given to the choir master or conductor to sing during services..
So the true rendering of the Psalm is
The Lord(The most high) said to my master(David).......l
The other part of the Psalm confirms it is talking about David....not some imaginary person...

Wrong

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 3:44pm On Dec 05, 2024

Michael547:
So if the father came into existence first, how is the father and son equal In Existence?

No where that shows father came into existence lol

God have always been there from eternity
God the father the Son the holy spirit

Have always been there have always existed

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Michael547(m): 3:45pm On Dec 05, 2024

Kingsnairaland:
No where that shows father came into existence lol

God have always been there from eternity
God the father the Son the holy spirit

Have always been there

So is Jesus the Father?

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 3:46pm On Dec 05, 2024

sonmvayina:
Until you people realize that Jesus is a Roman /Greek invention, you will keep arguing. That is why the Catholics who invented the idea called it a mystery. And they said anybody who does not believe, let him be anathema(as good as Dead)
When the Tanakh clearly said that God is one...They even made the devil a dual opposite of God....what insult. And you want me to be part of it after finding out the truth...

Saying lies here will not change the truth

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 3:49pm On Dec 05, 2024

Michael547:
So is Jesus the Father?

You can only understand this mystery when you understand yourself

Stop thinking about higher level when you refuse to look at yourself

First
Look at your self

Your soul is not your body or your spirit

But your soul is you and you are a man

That the same way

God almighty is

The father is not the Son or the holy spirit

But the father is God almighty the Son is God almighty the holy spirit is God almighty

Glory

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Michael547(m): 3:50pm On Dec 05, 2024

Kingsnairaland:
You can only understand this mystery when you understand yourself

Stop thinking about higher level when you refuse to look at yourself

First
Look at your self

Your soul is not your body or your spirit

But your soul is you and you are a man

That the same way

God almighty is

The father is not the Son or the holy spirit

But the father is God almighty the Son is God almighty the holy spirit is God almighty

Glory

🤣🤣🤣see this man oo....so Jesus is not the Father again? If Jesus is not the father, is the Father greater than Jesus according to John 14:28?

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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 3:50pm On Dec 05, 2024

Kingsnairaland:
You can only understand this mystery when you understand yourself

Stop thinking about higher level when you refuse to look at yourself

First
Look at your self

Your soul is not your body or your spirit

But your soul is you and you are a man

That the same way

God almighty is

The father is not the Son or the holy spirit

But the father is God almighty the Son is God almighty the holy spirit is God almighty

Glory

God made water the same trinity waters is liquid water it solid ice water it gas water form

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 3:53pm On Dec 05, 2024

Michael547:
🤣🤣🤣see this man oo....so Jesus is not the Father again?

God made water the same trinity waters is liquid water it solid ice water it gas water form

Now let me ask you something

If you see another person that thinks like you think and do everything that you do and looks like you

What are you going to call that person

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Michael547(m): 3:54pm On Dec 05, 2024

Kingsnairaland:
God made water the same trinity waters is liquid water it solid ice water it gas water form

Now let me ask you something

If you see another person that thinks like you think and do everything that you do and looks like you

What are you going to call that person

Oga....Jesus himself said the Father is greater than him. So I ask you again, Is Jesus the Father? If no, Is the Father greater than Jesus? Yes or no?

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 3:58pm On Dec 05, 2024

Michael547:
Oga....Jesus himself said the Father is greater than him. So I ask you again, Is Jesus the Father? If no, Is the Father greater than Jesus? Yes or no?

The only way you can understand it is by answering that question I ask you

If not you will keep moving in a circle

You like to read only one part because you should have added where Jesus said
I and my father are one

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Michael547(m): 4:01pm On Dec 05, 2024

Kingsnairaland:
The only way you can understand it is by answering that question I ask you

If not you will keep moving in a circle

You like to read only one part because you should have added where Jesus said
I and my father is one

So If Jesus and the Father are one, Does that make Jesus the Father? If no or Yes, Is the Father greater than Jesus?

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 4:06pm On Dec 05, 2024

Michael547:
So If Jesus and the Father are one, Does that make Jesus the Father? If no or Yes, Is the Father greater than Jesus?

Jesus is the express image of God almighty

That why I asked you

That first question which you can't answer lol

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Michael547(m): 4:08pm On Dec 05, 2024

Kingsnairaland:
Jesus is the express image of God almighty

That why I asked you

That first question which you can't answer lol

So if Jesus is the Image of the Almighty God, does that make him the father? If no, Is the Father greater than Jesus?

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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 4:13pm On Dec 05, 2024

Michael547:
So if Jesus is the Image of the Almighty God, does that make him the father? If no, Is the Father greater than Jesus?

You don't want to understand it
Because you are not chosen by God to see the mystery

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Michael547(m): 4:15pm On Dec 05, 2024

Kingsnairaland:
You don't want to understand it
Because you are not chosen by God to see the mystery

🤣🤣🤣so I should throw away what Jesus is telling me in John 14:28? It is because you do not accept Jesus words that is why it is a mystery to you.

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 7:48pm On Dec 05, 2024

Michael547:
🤣🤣🤣so I should throw away what Jesus is telling me in John 14:28? It is because you do not accept Jesus words that is why it is a mystery to you.

Jesus is the truth and life itself

Jesus and the father are one

If you see Jesus you have seen the father
Because God the father is inside Jesus

Just like your soul and spirit is inside you

Glory

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Michael547(m): 8:04pm On Dec 05, 2024

Kingsnairaland:
Jesus is the truth and life itself

Jesus and the father are one

If you see Jesus you have seen the father
Because God the father is inside Jesus

Just like your soul and spirit is inside you

Glory

So If The Father is inside Jesus, why is The Father greater than Jesus?

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 8:37pm On Dec 05, 2024

Michael547:
So If The Father is inside Jesus, why is The Father greater than Jesus?

God is both greeter and the greatest

He God is both the one who sent and also the one who is sent

God is both almighty and Also a servant

God is both head and tail

God is both beggining and end

God is both first and last

God is both all in one

God is both infinity and zero

God is both a and z

God is both a teacher and a learner

That's is What
Jesus is

That is What
Bible wants you to understand

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Michael547(m): 9:07pm On Dec 05, 2024

Kingsnairaland:
God is both greeter and the greatest

He God is both the one who sent and also the one who is sent

God is both almighty and Also a servant

God is both head and tail

God is both beggining and end

God is both first and last

God is both all in one

God is both infinity and zero

God is both a and z

God is both a teacher and a learner

That's is What
Jesus is

That is What
Bible wants you to understand

So if Jesus is The Almighty God, Who is the Father that is greater than Jesus?

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:03pm On Dec 05, 2024

Michael547:
So if Jesus is The Almighty God, Who is the Father that is greater than Jesus?

You like wahala sha!

Trinitarians say they are okay with their Trinity you want to convince them otherwise! undecided

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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Janosky: 10:24pm On Dec 05, 2024

Kingsnairaland:
Jesus is the truth and life itself

Jesus and the father are one

[b]Oga,is John 17:21-23 in your Bible?

Did Jesus teach you in John 17:21-23 that the Father, the disciples and Jesus are One?
Yes.

Kingsnairaland:
If you see Jesus you have seen the father
Because God the father is inside Jesus

No Sir.
Because @ John 14:24 Jesus explained it .
Jesus Christ is the Messenger speaking his Father's words.
Compare Psalms 103:20 & John 14:24, John 7:16 you will get the sense of what Jesus explained.
When your son brings your letter to me, I have seen you when I see him.

Kingsnairaland:
Just like your soul and spirit is inside you

Glory

Soul is not inside man.

Not in any Bible, not in your Bible.

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Janosky: 10:49pm On Dec 05, 2024

NNTR:
I am sure you know that the Godhead is not restricted to the Trinitarian limit, so with that said, please for the moment, put on one side your new found love of Catholic New Jerusalem Bible at Psalms 45:6 & Hebrews 1:8, and now to the best of your understanding and considerable knowledge, dignify me please the sum of what God and/or god means in the context of Hebrews 1:8-9? (i.e. leave no stone unturned)

Thank you in advance for your humble, honest, mature and sincere answer

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Hebrews 1:8 is a copy of the old testament Psalm 45:6-7
"Your throne is from God"/ Your throne is given of God "
Screenshot evidences.

Oga, can you now understand that your rendition of Hebrew 1:8 is against the holy scriptures of Psalm 45:7 Hebrew text?

Hebrew 1:9 is self explanatory, that Jesus has his God..
Hebrew 1:9 = John 20:17.
Jesus Christ is a worshipper.
God his Father is NOT a worshipper.

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Janosky: 10:53pm On Dec 05, 2024

Kingsnairaland:
The only way you can understand it is by answering that question I ask you

If not you will keep moving in a circle

You like to read only one part because you should have added where Jesus said
I and my father are one

John 17:11,21

Matter solved.
No maggi no spices .

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 8:01am On Dec 06, 2024

Michael547:
So if Jesus is The Almighty God, Who is the Father that is greater than Jesus?

Bible said that Jesus is the greatest.. Than all

And Jesus name is the greatest.. Than all

Go learn English and find out which is higher

Greatest or greater

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 8:28am On Dec 06, 2024

Janosky:
Oga,is John 17:21-23 in your Bible?

Did Jesus teach you in John 17:21-23 that the Father, the disciples and Jesus are One?
Yes.

No Sir.
Because @ John 14:24 Jesus explained it .
Jesus Christ is the Messenger speaking his Father's words.
Compare Psalms 103:20 & John 14:24, John 7:16 you will get the sense of what Jesus explained.
When your son brings your letter to me, I have seen you when I see him.

Soul is not inside man.

Not in any Bible, not in your Bible.

The Bible tells us in 1 Thessalonians 5:23 that we were all created with three parts—a spirit, a soul, and a body:

“And the God of peace Himself sanctify you wholly, and may your
spirit and
soul and
body
be preserved complete, without blame, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.”

The human soul is created by God
(Jeremiah 38:16).

Jeremiah 38:16 (ESV)
16 Then King Zedekiah swore secretly to Jeremiah, "As the Lord lives, who made our souls, I will not put you to death or deliver you into the hand of these men who seek your life."

The soul also
It can be strong or unsteady (2 Peter 2:14);

it can be lost or saved (James 1:21; Ezekiel 18:4).

We know that the human soul needs atonement (Leviticus 17:11)

and is the part of us that is purified and protected by the truth and the work of the Holy Spirit (1 Peter 1:22).

Jesus is the great Shepherd of souls
(1 Peter 2:25).

Matthew 11:29 tells us that we can turn to Jesus Christ to find rest for our souls.

Psalm 16:9-10 is a Messianic psalm that allows us to see that Jesus also had a soul.
David wrote, “Therefore my heart is glad, and my whole being rejoices; my flesh also dwells secure. For you will not abandon my soul to Sheol, or let your holy one see corruption.”

This cannot be speaking of David (as Paul points out in Acts 13:35-37) because David’s body did see corruption and decay when he died. But Jesus Christ’s body never saw corruption...
(He was resurrected), and His soul was not abandoned to Sheol. Jesus, as the Son of Man, has a soul....

I know you will not read this things properly

Because you block your heart from knowing who Jesus is

That why you can't see it...

Glory

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Michael547(m): 8:29am On Dec 06, 2024

Kingsnairaland:
Bible said that Jesus is the greatest.. Than all

And Jesus name is the greatest.. Than all

Go learn English and find out which is higher

Greatest or greater

Did Jesus not tell you that the Father Is greater than him in John 14:28, So how can Jesus be the greatest when he is not the Father?

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 8:35am On Dec 06, 2024

Michael547:
Did Jesus not tell you that the Father Is greater than him in John 14:28, So how can Jesus be the greatest when he is not the Father?

Jesus came from inside the father and did what the father sent him
Then the father showed he is so happy with Jesus that he decided to live inside Jesus

Just the same way Jesus was living inside the father before he was sent

Hope this can open your eyes

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Michael547(m): 8:38am On Dec 06, 2024

Kingsnairaland:
Jesus came from inside the father and did what the father sent him
Then the father showed he is so happy with Jesus that he decided to live inside Jesus

Just the same way Jesus was living inside the father before he was sent

Hope this can open your eyes

So when the Father was living inside Jesus, did Jesus still tell you that the Father was greater than him? Yes or no?

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 8:41am On Dec 06, 2024

Michael547:
So when the Father was living inside Jesus, did Jesus still tell you that the Father was greater than him? Yes or no?

When Jesus died and rose up
he fulfilled his mission and went to the throne in heaven

From that point he became the greatest

Then from that point the father was so happy to live inside Jesus

I told you learn English to find out which is higher

Greatest or greater

Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Michael547(m): 9:35am On Dec 06, 2024*

Kingsnairaland:
When Jesus died and rose up
he fulfilled his mission and went to the throne in heaven

From that point he became the greatest

Then from that point the father was so happy to live inside Jesus

I told you learn English to find out which is higher

Greatest or greater

So how was the Father greater than Jesus before he came to earth and went back to heaven?

Is Jesus greater than the Father now?

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