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Re: French And The New Strategic Partnership With Nigeria: A Departure From The Old by CSTRR: 12:03pm On Dec 07, 2024
BreconHills:
Innuendo and speculation. My brain doesn't go on such journeys of fancy.

France has lost access to three countries in W. Africa with access to minerals like uranium and lithium - FACT

Macron is facing political uprising in France - FACT

The French economy is contracting - FACT

We all live in the world of our making. I will never live in a world of inuenndo and speculation. You are welcome to your belief system.

As far as I know Tinubu or Chagoury do not have any criminal convictions over their relationship.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/lebanese-nigerian-billionaire-and-two-associates-resolve-federal-probe-alleged

That's from the US department of Justice.
Just like tinubu, Chagoury paid fines as punishment for his corruption and attempt to meddle into American politics.

That's the same Chagoury that openly and brazenly has his fingers in tinubu's arse hole.

France economy is contracting, - True.

But neither tinubu nor his ally are in a position to exploit it for the good of Nigeria.
They don't have the integrity capital or the leverage.

And as we can see, the French air force have offloaded their ancient alpha jets to Nigeria.
Jets that should ordinarily be in a museum.

That's what tinubu is buying for Nigeria with scarce dollars.
Re: French And The New Strategic Partnership With Nigeria: A Departure From The Old by BreconHills(m): 12:34pm On Dec 07, 2024
CSTRR:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/lebanese-nigerian-billionaire-and-two-associates-resolve-federal-probe-alleged

That's from the US department of Justice.
Just like tinubu, Chagoury paid fines as punishment for his corruption and attempt to meddle into American politics.

That's the same Chagoury that openly and brazenly has his fingers in tinubu's arse hole.

France economy is contracting, - True.

But neither tinubu nor his ally are in a position to exploit it for the good of Nigeria.
They don't have the integrity capital or the leverage.

And as we can see, the French air force have offloaded their ancient alpha jets to Nigeria.
Jets that should ordinarily be in a museum.

That's what tinubu is buying for Nigeria with scarce dollars.
Nigerian conviction please. If there was a valid judgement in the US it would have been enrolled in a Nigerian court for execution.

You know nothing about Aviation else you would have known that the years from manufacture are less important than the Avionic and systems upgrade. Those Alpha jets have the latest upgrades and are a steal at the price.

If you were also knowledgeable you would know that Nigerian engineers have acquired strong missile and rocket dev capacity on the Alpha jets which makes it cheaper to run than the equivalent Swedish Gripen used by SA.

You arm and fight the enemy in front of you and for the first time in its history, Nigeria has a weapons platform mix that assure it of dominance in its theatre - which is West Africa/Sahel and Gulf of Guinea. Nigeria is not going to war with SA, Algeria or Egypt.
Re: French And The New Strategic Partnership With Nigeria: A Departure From The Old by Zooposki(f): 12:38pm On Dec 07, 2024
Re: French And The New Strategic Partnership With Nigeria: A Departure From The Old by BreconHills(m): 12:50pm On Dec 07, 2024
JASONjnr:
To make your country susceptible to french manipulation? This is not diplomatic at all....
Right. He should sign agreements with the US or Russia.

France is a "frenemy " and Nigeria has dealt with them like this even before the Biafra war when they sided with Biafra. Nigeria is their largest African trade partner and yet they have tried to scupper WA regional integration. Nigeria knows how to trade and defend its interests. No single country has been able to dominate Nigeria because it is one of the few non aligned African states.

If you can't see the future, see the history.

So is it now that France will start manipulating Nigeria? 😂.
Re: French And The New Strategic Partnership With Nigeria: A Departure From The Old by JASONjnr(m): 1:57pm On Dec 07, 2024
BreconHills:
Right. He should sign agreements with the US or Russia.

France is a "frenemy " and Nigeria has dealt with them like this even before the Biafra war when they sided with Biafra. Nigeria is their largest African trade partner and yet they have tried to scupper WA regional integration. Nigeria knows how to trade and defend its interests. No single country has been able to dominate Nigeria because it is one of the few non aligned African states.

If you can't see the future, see the history.

So is it now that France will start manipulating Nigeria? 😂.
You're really underestimating France.

You think France loosing all it's Africa colonized countries wouldn't come up with a strategy?
Re: French And The New Strategic Partnership With Nigeria: A Departure From The Old by Vision101(m): 2:17pm On Dec 07, 2024
YourGFsnatcher:
Nigerians aren't that smart. We are far from coming out of our predicament because we don't know the difference between what is good what is bad. We cannot differenciate between good and bad decisions. Anything these leaders say it's good we follow like zombies. We have a crumbling economy, we have a dilapidated security, we have brainless leaders, the conditions keep getting worst, these so called leaders have been coming up with Policies that only increases the gap between the rich and the poor. Sadly we have people like you that will keep blowing their trumpets and keep telling Nigerians they are doing the best things for us. FYI, Niger Republic broke ties with France and became the fastest growing economy. So France could not help them after all the years of friendship? It's nigeria they like most? Is this a difficult maths?
Niger Republic? The fastest growing economy? How many cartoons of hero beer did you drink?
Re: French And The New Strategic Partnership With Nigeria: A Departure From The Old by CSTRR: 2:41pm On Dec 07, 2024
BreconHills:
Nigerian conviction please. If there was a valid judgement in the US it would have been enrolled in a Nigerian court for execution.

You know nothing about Aviation else you would have known that the years from manufacture are less important than the Avionic and systems upgrade. Those Alpha jets have the latest upgrades and are a steal at the price.

If you were also knowledgeable you would know that Nigerian engineers have acquired strong missile and rocket dev capacity on the Alpha jets which makes it cheaper to run than the equivalent Swedish Gripen used by SA.

You arm and fight the enemy in front of you and for the first time in its history, Nigeria has a weapons platform mix that assure it of dominance in its theatre - which is West Africa/Sahel and Gulf of Guinea. Nigeria is not going to war with SA, Algeria or Egypt.
What a clown
Re: French And The New Strategic Partnership With Nigeria: A Departure From The Old by Omoawoke(m): 2:48pm On Dec 07, 2024
There’s nothing to it other than betrayal.

France has dealt heavy blows on west Africa, while other west Africans are kicking them out, it’s stupid to make friends with the enemy of your brothers. West African unity is better than Nigeria romancing France while other west African countries are kicking them out
Re: French And The New Strategic Partnership With Nigeria: A Departure From The Old by BreconHills(m): 3:02pm On Dec 07, 2024
JASONjnr:
You're really underestimating France.

You think France loosing all it's Africa colonized countries wouldn't come up with a strategy?
And you think France will out think Nigeria? Why do you have such an inferiority complex?
Re: French And The New Strategic Partnership With Nigeria: A Departure From The Old by JASONjnr(m): 3:06pm On Dec 07, 2024
BreconHills:
And you think France will out think Nigeria? Why do you have such an inferiority complex?
You're the one with inferiority complex.... You underestimate and believe that a whole France will not hurt you.

I hope you don't regret supporting this move.
Re: French And The New Strategic Partnership With Nigeria: A Departure From The Old by akigbemaru: 3:42pm On Dec 07, 2024
FitCorper:
Nigeria be like fine girl wey don mature to beautiful woman and everybody wants to court her. So much potentials to raise billionaires in Africa in the coming years. Jagaban thank you so much for the harsh but necessary repositioning and recalibration of our great country. Pls if you are going through the hardship don’t quote me as I’m not the cause of your struggles.

God bless Jagaban
God bless Nigeria.
Naija will be great again.
Re: French And The New Strategic Partnership With Nigeria: A Departure From The Old by akigbemaru: 3:44pm On Dec 07, 2024
BreconHills:
Right. He should sign agreements with the US or Russia.

France is a "frenemy " and Nigeria has dealt with them like this even before the Biafra war when they sided with Biafra. Nigeria is their largest African trade partner and yet they have tried to scupper WA regional integration. Nigeria knows how to trade and defend its interests. No single country has been able to dominate Nigeria because it is one of the few non aligned African states.

If you can't see the future, see the history.

So is it now that France will start manipulating Nigeria? 😂.
Re: French And The New Strategic Partnership With Nigeria: A Departure From The Old by akigbemaru: 3:48pm On Dec 07, 2024
BreconHills:
Nigerian conviction please. If there was a valid judgement in the US it would have been enrolled in a Nigerian court for execution.

You know nothing about Aviation else you would have known that the years from manufacture are less important than the Avionic and systems upgrade. Those Alpha jets have the latest upgrades and are a steal at the price.

If you were also knowledgeable you would know that Nigerian engineers have acquired strong missile and rocket dev capacity on the Alpha jets which makes it cheaper to run than the equivalent Swedish Gripen used by SA.

You arm and fight the enemy in front of you and for the first time in its history, Nigeria has a weapons platform mix that assure it of dominance in its theatre - which is West Africa/Sahel and Gulf of Guinea. Nigeria is not going to war with SA, Algeria or Egypt.
Re: French And The New Strategic Partnership With Nigeria: A Departure From The Old by mbos: 3:58pm On Dec 07, 2024
people who have been request by their colonies in West Africa as failures are being welcomed in Nigeria


RedScorpion:
They should make it easier for Nigerians to Japa to France when the need arises
Re: French And The New Strategic Partnership With Nigeria: A Departure From The Old by BreconHills(m): 4:27pm On Dec 07, 2024
JASONjnr:
You're the one with inferiority complex.... You underestimate and believe that a whole France will not hurt you.

I hope you don't regret supporting this move.
Are you south african?
Re: French And The New Strategic Partnership With Nigeria: A Departure From The Old by cardoctor(m): 8:10pm On Dec 07, 2024
Its the presidential relationship that I'm enjoying.
Re: French And The New Strategic Partnership With Nigeria: A Departure From The Old by YourGFsnatcher: 8:54pm On Dec 07, 2024
Vision101:
Niger Republic? The fastest growing economy? How many cartoons of hero beer did you drink?
You are oblivious to knowledge. Why didn't the French help Niger Republic? It's you them like pass Abi? Go and check Niger's growth rate now and before then come and talk
Re: French And The New Strategic Partnership With Nigeria: A Departure From The Old by Vision101(m): 11:19pm On Dec 07, 2024
YourGFsnatcher:
You are oblivious to knowledge. Why didn't the French help Niger Republic? It's you them like pass Abi? Go and check Niger's growth rate now and before then come and talk
Defend your phrase "fastest growing economy" Produce proof.
Re: French And The New Strategic Partnership With Nigeria: A Departure From The Old by Princenixon: 11:53am On Dec 09, 2024
To those opposing my analysis of Nigeria and France's strategic partnership under President Tinubu’s leadership, I appreciate your perspectives and encourage us to examine the situation through a broader lens, particularly that of realism and negotiation dynamics.

Negotiation from Strength
Negotiation between nations, especially in strategic partnerships, is not an exercise in coercion but a complex process of leveraging strengths to achieve mutually beneficial outcomes. Under President Tinubu, Nigeria is positioned to negotiate from a position of strength due to several key realities affecting France and its influence in Africa today:

France's Diminishing Influence in Africa:
Over the years, France’s historical dominance in its former African colonies has waned. Anti-French sentiments have surged in countries like Mali, Burkina Faso, and Niger, leading to the erosion of French economic and military influence in these regions. This decline places Nigeria—a powerhouse in West Africa—in a critical position as France seeks to maintain relevance in the continent.
Emergence of Global Competitors:
France now faces stiff competition from global players like China, Russia, and even regional forces in Africa. For example, Russia's engagement in Africa through security partnerships and resource investments presents a new competitor. In this analogy, France resembles a dominant vendor whose market monopoly has been disrupted by a new rival, forcing it to renegotiate with remaining partners to secure its interests. Nigeria, as the most populous African country and a strategic economic hub, is France’s lifeline to maintain its presence in West Africa.
Nigeria's Economic and Political Strength:
Nigeria's strategic importance in Africa—economically, politically, and militarily—gives it leverage. As Africa’s largest economy, Nigeria offers an opportunity for partnerships that can benefit France amid its declining grip on Francophone Africa.
Tinubu’s government has shown commitment to reforms aimed at strengthening Nigeria’s economic position, including tackling subsidy issues and encouraging foreign investments, which enhances Nigeria's ability to negotiate effectively.
A Realist Perspective
In international relations, realism emphasizes the pursuit of national interest and power dynamics. Critics should consider that this partnership is not about reverting to a "subjugative order" but about recalibrating the terms to reflect current realities. Nigeria's position in such negotiations should be to redefine its relationship with France to achieve mutual respect and equitable benefits, rather than perpetuate historical patterns of dependency.

Learning from the France-Africa Analogy
Let us view this situation through the analogy of a masterful vendor (France) who has dominated a market for decades. The vendor's monopoly allowed them to dictate terms to their clients, enjoying unparalleled advantages. Suddenly, this vendor loses significant clients to a new competitor (e.g., Russia, China). Desperate to retain relevance, the vendor turns to their remaining key clients. In this scenario, Nigeria represents the pivotal client with the power to renegotiate terms.

Tinubu’s administration, aware of these shifts, recognizes the opportunity to approach France from a position of strength, ensuring Nigeria’s interests are protected and advanced.

Why This Approach Matters
Nigeria can redefine its strategic partnership with France without alienating the West. This is not about hostility or isolation but about demanding equitable terms that reflect contemporary realities. Embracing realism allows Nigeria to act in its best interest while fostering balanced international relationships.

Conclusion
To those opposing my views, I urge you to see this not as a defense of old power dynamics but as a strategic recalibration of relationships. Nigeria’s ability to navigate these dynamics under Tinubu’s leadership will determine its role on the global stage. Let us approach this dialogue constructively and consider the broader implications of strategic partnerships in today’s multipolar world.
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