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| Jesus' Three Baptisms by ocnovakmichael(op): 2:52pm On Dec 07, 2024*. Modified: 11:28pm On Dec 10, 2024 |
Friday 6th December' 24 I was washing in the bathroom when the word of the Lord stirred my spirit concerning the baptisms of the Lord Jesus. I haven't thought of the consequence of the three baptisms of Jesus until that day. So I ask the Holy Spirit to teach me more of Jesus' baptism and where to find them in scriptures. The word Baptism means "immersion." And one way to interpret it in this context is a "deep involvement in something" such as water, fire etc. The purpose of baptism is for preservation of the one that was baptized. It is in the light of this understanding that I will narrow down the path of the three baptisms of Christ. Paul writing under the inspiration of the Holy Ghost alluded to examples of these baptisms in his epistle to the church at Corinth. 1 Corinthians 10:1-2 [1]Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; [2]And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; Notice in that text Paul was referring to the Israelites having been baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea: referring to two baptisms, which are essentially examples of things to come. You see, in the Old testament, God led Israel by a pillar of cloud to shield them from the affront of the army of Pharaoh. Also, God led them with a mighty hand through the sea, when He parted the Red sea for Israel to escape Egypt. Exodus 13:21a [21]And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way But there's yet another baptism which Paul did not mention in that reference in his first epistle to the saints at Corinth, the third baptism. Now why Paul omitted the third baptism I cannot say, but one thing I can say is that Paul wrote as much as the Spirit led him. You see, the Bible teaches that we know in part, and do prophesy in part. 1 Corinthians 13:9 [9]For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. In the book of first Corinthians the tenth chapter and the eleventh verse, Paul by the inspiration of the Spirit says, what happened to the children of Israel are examples unto us in this dispensation. Meaning, the somewhat physical experiences of the Jews are both spiritual warning and reality unto us from the time of our Lord Jesus on earth unto this day of the Holy Ghost. 1 Corinthians 10:11 [11]Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. Now what am I getting to? You see, while Paul referenced two baptisms of the children of Israel in the cloud and in the sea, there's yet another baptism that crowns the crest of our immersion in God the Father, in God the Son, and in God the Holy Ghost. Exodus 13:21 [21]And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night Exodus 14:29 [29]But the children of Israel walked upon dry land in the midst of the sea; and the waters were a wall unto them on their right hand, and on their left. Notice in those texts that the children of Israel were immersed in three, that is, they were baptized in the cloud, the sea, and the fire. And these are types and shadow unto us. The cloud is a type of the baptism of the Holy Ghost, the sea is a type of the baptism in water, while the fire is a type of the baptism in Jesus' death. In the beginning of Jesus' earthly ministry he went to Jordan's river to be baptized in water by John the Baptist. This was his first baptism. Now, no sooner had he his first baptism in water than he had his second baptism in the Holy Ghost when the heavens opened. Mark 1:9-10 [9]And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan. [10]And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him: The Lord Jesus was both baptized in water (the sea) and in the Holy Ghost ( the cloud) the same hour. And scripture says, "God gave him the Spirit without measure" (John 3:34). Meaning, Jesus was greatly immersed in water and in the Spirit: two baptisms. Notwithstanding, one day while teaching his disciples, the Lord Jesus hinted of his third baptism, the baptism by fire. Now in the beginning of this article I had earlier stated that the purpose of baptism is for preservation. This is why the Lord Jesus hinted that "Every one shall be salted with fire..." (Mark 9:49). Put slightly differently, in his third baptism by fire, everyone who believes shall be preserved by his sacrifice of death on the cross and his resurrection. Matthew 20:22 [22]But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able. Notice in that text that Jesus spoke of another baptism. This statement came after he had been baptized by John the Baptist in Jordan's river and had received the fullness of the Spirit without measure. How come Christ is mentioning another baptism? This is the third baptism. The baptism wherein everyone of us who believe will be salted. That is, preserved. Ephesians 1:20 & 2:1 [20]Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, [1]And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; Notice in that text that we were all baptized and preserved in him in his, third baptism, death and were raised up together with him in his resurrection. Glory to God! The same power that raised Jesus, the head of the church, from the grave also raised his body. Now don't just take my views on the above article. If this discuss bear witness with your spirit, kindly leave a comment in the comment section below. Jesus is Lord! Do not hoard knowledge, propagate it! |
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| Re: Jesus' Three Baptisms by gohf: 12:47pm On Dec 08, 2024 |
ocnovakmichael:okay Indeed baptism means immersion, but do you also realize that Paul wrote: Eph.4.5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; It is just one baptism, not two or three Now Jesus said in Matt.28.19, Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,... That doesn't mean three baptisms, but one baptism, one name, not the name of the Father, the name of the son and the name of the Holy Spirit. I agree that baptism is for preservation like you wrote but such understanding shouldn't result in you believing there are multiple baptisms. We are sealed right, by the Holy Spirit, once not multiple times. It's like one saying because there are seven spirits mentioned in revelation it means there are seven baptisms. But we know from scripture in Isaiah the spirit of the Lord came upon him, the spirit of wisdom etc etc etc. it wasn't the spirits of the Lord because they are one spirit, nine gifts of one spirit, the Holy Spirit. Nine characteristics of one kind fruit, the fruit of righteousness. Now 1 Corinthians 10, Paul speaks of those who followed Moses and entered into covenant with him and God, as being baptism into cloud and sea as a type of water baptism abi. Now the point Paul was making is that even though they passed the red sea and walked under God's cloud and covering, even though they eat spiritual food and drank spiritual water from the rock, whom Paul refers to was Christ, they sinned and committed Iniquity and idolatry and were destroyed because of it. Now you know like you said baptism is immersion but the people never entered the cloud nor the fire you later make mention of. But then you would say they didn't enter the sea either but passed through it And I get that you then suggest that, o, it's sea, cloud and fire, but does it have to cost as three and not one, a baptism to bring them to the promise land. Because in the day it's a cloud but at night it is fire, the both don't occur at the same time. It's just like how we are baptized and we don't remain in the same state and condition. I have stated the purpose of why he wrote or what he wrote in 1 Corinthians 10 Now speaking of the baptism of fire, being the death of Jesus, I agree as well but as you saw it's the final stage of the baptism which ushered him into his assignment and ministry. Meaning he was already baptism to do that, baptized to die on that cross. Let me explain through the words of Jesus Now before John baptized Jesus, John said, he who comes after me, Jesus, baptizes with the Holy Spirit and with fire, Like 3:16. and when Jesus was baptized by John, Jesus was baptized by the Holy Spirit and so later he spoke to the disciples later he says Matt.20.22 - But Jesus answered and said, "You do not know what you ask. Are you able to drink the cup that I am about to drink, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?" They said to Him, "We are able." Now this is saying the baptism I will be baptized with but the baptism that I have received that you don't yet have but will receive after my death and resurrection. "Baptized with" past tense Other translations leave it out, for example Matt.20.23 "You will indeed drink from it," he told them. "But I have no right to say who will sit on the thrones next to mine. My Father has prepared those places for the ones he has chosen." (NLT) Now you may go, ah but Luke said, I always tell people read Matthew first, there's a reason it is listed first, then Mark and then Luke Luke.12.49 "I have come to bring fire to the earth, and I wish that my task were already completed! (NLT)Luke.12.50 There is a terrible baptism ahead of me, and I am under a heavy burden until it is accomplished. (NLT) Now when you read a verse and you don't relate with other verses you may not understand what was said nor what is written. Infact verse 49 explains verse 50. Jesus came to send fire a baptism that would separate those who are to be saved and the rest, and he was eager to accomplish it. Some have assumed Jesus is saying he is going to bring hell on everyone or make everyone pass through hell, like Mark 9 you quoted, lemme read a different translation Mark.9.49 "For everyone will be purified with fire. (NLT) Now even if it's KJV or NKJV Mark.9.49 "For everyone will be seasoned with fire, and every sacrifice will be seasoned with salt. (NKJV) Know that Jesus was speaking to his disciples and the fire here is meant for good not for destruction. Key word seasoned. Salted, and verse 50 refers to salt as peace, so being made peaceful with God by purification of fire. the baptism of fire. We know that in acts the Holy Spirit came upon them in form cloven tongues of fire, I could say purified tongues or circumcised with fire tongues, like what occured with Isaiah whose mouth was touched with coals from God's through and declared your Iniquity has been taken away. The whole purpose of my response is to answer this, "How come Christ is mentioning another baptism?" JESUS DOESN'T SPEAK OF A THIRD BAPTISM BUT OF ONE SPECIFIC BAPTISM. Of the Holy Spirit and of Fire.. in another phrase baptism of Holy Spirit and Power, for he instructed them to wait for the Holy Spirit to come upon them with power, with fire. I agree we need the baptism to live for Christ, die for God's will and be resurrected to glory. 1Cor.12.13 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free--and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. (NKJV) 😊 |
| Re: Jesus' Three Baptisms by ocnovakmichael(op): 12:53pm On Dec 08, 2024 |
gohf:Well said brother. Now I'm not a proponent of the idea that Christians should have three baptisms. What my article says is that Jesus had three baptisms which are clearly seen in scriptures. But we do not have to go through that, one baptism (in water and by the Holy Ghost), as Paul wrote in the book of Ephesians, suffices. I'm only pointing out the obvious that Jesus had three baptisms that we may be preserved in him. Don't miss the point in the article. |
| Re: Jesus' Three Baptisms by gohf: 1:02pm On Dec 08, 2024 |
ocnovakmichael:"Clearly seen" "obvious" 😏 I showed you and explained that Jesus had just one baptism, the baptism of the Holy Spirit where the Spirit came upon him and dwelt but do you still choose to believe in three baptism, hmm, it's well. Let me share with you what another baptism truly means, to receive another baptism is to receive another spirit, it's to be immersed into another body. Once you are put into the Spirit, we are to dwell in Christ and Christ in us. Jesus who was born as a result of the Holy Spirit and the power of God, becoming flesh became immersed into the Spirit and got led to the wilderness overcoming satan and years later to the cross to overcome the curse of sin, to overcome death |
| Re: Jesus' Three Baptisms by ocnovakmichael(op): 1:17pm On Dec 08, 2024 |
gohf:Well said brother. I like you. Nonetheless, let's analyze with sound logical wisdom 1. Jesus' baptism in water was the first 2. Jesus' baptism by the fullness of the Spirit was the second 3. The baptism Jesus spoke about of his death in Matthew 20:22 was the third. And those were the reality of the Old testament types such as the sea, the cloud, and the fire. |
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